2019-20 Anthony Davis Lakers Thread

[tjforce]

With so much excitement around a lot of young guys this year, I wanted a thread to track and discuss the guy who I think might be having the most impact season of all, AD.

I know there are probably a lot of collectors around here that have been following AD for longer than I have, but it's been about 3-4 years since I've really started following him, and in that time he's been one of the NBA's most dominating forces.

I'll start with what I've seen of him this year that has made him special:

The statline through 7 games is as spectacular as always with him: 27 pts, 11 rebs, while leading the league in blocks. All while on a team that plays at a below average pace.

But the numbers don't tell everything. He changes the geometry unlike anyone I see in the NBA right now. And by that I mean that he's a rim protector that can shut down the lane on Defense, and he can both stretch the floor with his jumpshot on O, and absolutely dominate in the post.

I don't think there is anyone in the NBA right now with as wide of a skillset as him.

What I'm looking for him to prove this season:

The ability to stay healthy.

He has a reputation for being fragile. Personally, I think it's over blown, as he's never had a major injury and has played more games than Kawhi played last year in every season of his career (other than last year when the Pels shut him down). Still, it'll be important for him to get to that 75 games played mark in order for the Lakers to fight for a high seed.


That he can play well in late round playoff action.

Davis's problems in the playoffs? He hasn't played in many. When he has, he's been dominant, averaging 31 and 13 with 2.5 blocks. Unfortunately he ran into Golden State twice and the Pels got knocked out. That being said, late round playoffs are a different game. I don't doubt that he can perform, but I still need to see if before I can believe it.


Anyways, it's been a fun start to the year and I look forward to watching it unfold.

[ThoseBackPages]

His Optic is going to be "LIT"

[RogerGodahell]

Whenever you have 2 of the top 5 players in the league on the same team, you're gonna do alright. :)

And there's an argument to be made they could be currently #1, #2.

[theleica]

I agree that he has been great this year. Hopefully he can keep it up. One small correction: He doesn't lead the league in blocks. He is in 2nd behind Jonathan Isaac.

[the27guy]

Whenever you have 2 of the top 5 players in the league on the same team, you're gonna do alright. :)

And there's an argument to be made they could be currently #1, #2.

They really are both high end talents. As long as they're healthy and playing with this kind of energy, they're going to be tough to beat and have a real shot at winning it all. I'm very impressed so far.

Davis and Lebron needed each other. They really did. Davis needed a great player to show him how to win. Lebron needed a great young player to share the load and give him a real chance to win. They really do have a chance to win.

But.... a few things must be proven, that take more than 8 games.

Since the schedule came out, we knew that they needed to feast in their first 20 games. They've certainly done that so far at 7-1. They deserve credit for that. The bad news for the Lakers is that they haven't gotten to play any of the really good teams in this winning streak. Their schedule has been (and is going to continue to be) a cake walk. Check this out.

Schedule so far- bolding the games that I would argue are pretty solid tests.

Loss at Clippers
Win home Jazz
Win home Hornets
Win home Grizzlies
Wins away Mavs
Win away Spurs
Win away Bulls
Win home Heat

Now look at their next 12 games-

Home vs Raptors
Away vs Suns
Home vs GS
Home vs Sac
Home vs Hawks
Home vs OKC
Away vs OKC
Away vs Grizzlies
Away vs Spurs
Away vs New Orleans
Home vs Washington
Home vs Dallas

Guys, the Lakers may very well win the next 12 games. I'm serious. A 19 game win streak is not out of the question.

I can't imagine that another western conference team has a stretch of 12 games as easy as that one the whole year. Combine it with their first 8 and man, the schedule makers gave the Lakers a road to a fast start....

But the schedule makers don't remove difficult games for long. Now look at this. Starting December 3rd.

Away vs Denver
Away vs Utah
Away vs Portland
Home vs Minny
Away vs Orlando
Away vs Miami
Away vs Atlanta
Away vs Indiana
Away vs Milwaukee
Home vs Denver
Home vs Clippers
Away vs Portland



The Lakers odds at home court advantage will be determined during that bolded stretch. If they can stay healthy and win a good percentage of those games, they'll have a really good shot at a 1-3 seed.

[ninjacookies]

Either LBJ or AD is going to take home the MVP. I'm going to say Bronny, for good ol' times. He's still facilitating that offense with precision. Seems like they may take the West and home court handily, but it's still early. The role players are stepping up much better than I had anticipated.

[pingbling23]

Ad makes Lebron better and vice versa. Also, why isn’t the heat bolded? They were top of the East earlier this week.

[rhigh2390]

Either LBJ or AD is going to take home the MVP. I'm going to say Bronny, for good ol' times. He's still facilitating that offense with precision. Seems like they may take the West and home court handily, but it's still early. The role players are stepping up much better than I had anticipated.

I don't get this line of thinking. The past 3 years, KD and Steph were both ruled out for MVP because they had each other and it "wasn't fair" to the rest of the league. Now 2 of the top 3 players in the league are together and one of them now has to be MVP? Is it just because now one of the names are lebron?

[ninjacookies]

I don't get this line of thinking. The past 3 years, KD and Steph were both ruled out for MVP because they had each other and it "wasn't fair" to the rest of the league. Now 2 of the top 3 players in the league are together and one of them now has to be MVP? Is it just because now one of the names are lebron?

KD and Steph were ruled out for MVP because their numbers weren't MVP. It had nothing to do with an anti-Warrior bias. Combining forces made them a stronger team unit, but it also meant their individual stats took a minor hit.

Lebron is averaging near a triple double, and AD is dominating on both ends of the floor. It stands to reason that if they end up being the best team in the west, one of them is going to win it.

[rhigh2390]

KD and Steph were ruled out for MVP because their numbers weren't MVP. It had nothing to do with an anti-Warrior bias. Combining forces made them a stronger team unit, but it also meant their individual stats took a minor hit.

Lebron is averaging near a triple double, and AD is dominating on both ends of the floor. It stands to reason that if they end up being the best team in the west, one of them is going to win it.

I still think it's a little early to crown one of them MVP lol

[ninjacookies]

I still think it's a little early to crown one of them MVP lol

It is..but I do think the Lakers will get a top 2 seed, in which case it's going to be quite difficult to make a counter argument. Of course there still are guys like Giannis and Harden that will inevitably be in the race.

[tennelson55]

I don't get this line of thinking. The past 3 years, KD and Steph were both ruled out for MVP because they had each other and it "wasn't fair" to the rest of the league. Now 2 of the top 3 players in the league are together and one of them now has to be MVP? Is it just because now one of the names are lebron?

KD and Steph had Thompson (best shooter in the game), Draymond (defensive mvp) and iggy (6th man of the year, defensive player of the year, could average 20+ with another team).

The lakers don’t have close to the firepower. Danny Green losses his shooting ability for significant periods, Kuzma isn’t proven, Rondo is a shell of himself/wasn’t ever that next level player.

LeBron and AD play similar positions and need spacing to optimize their performance. The warriors had elite spacing compared to the lakers this season, but if say the shooting performance of the lakers improves then we can have a conversation about the spacing being where it needs to be

[jj2]

Do we have conclusive proof yet that if you mention Lebron's name three times it makes rhigh appear?

Does it even need to be three times or is he more economical than Bloody Mary?

[rhigh2390]

Do we have conclusive proof yet that if you mention Lebron's name three times it makes rhigh appear?

Does it even need to be three times or is he more economical than Bloody Mary?

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[jjohnson814]

They really are both high end talents. As long as they're healthy and playing with this kind of energy, they're going to be tough to beat and have a real shot at winning it all. I'm very impressed so far.



Davis and Lebron needed each other. They really did. Davis needed a great player to show him how to win. Lebron needed a great young player to share the load and give him a real chance to win. They really do have a chance to win.



But.... a few things must be proven, that take more than 8 games.



Since the schedule came out, we knew that they needed to feast in their first 20 games. They've certainly done that so far at 7-1. They deserve credit for that. The bad news for the Lakers is that they haven't gotten to play any of the really good teams in this winning streak. Their schedule has been (and is going to continue to be) a cake walk. Check this out.



Schedule so far- bolding the games that I would argue are pretty solid tests.



Loss at Clippers

Win home Jazz

Win home Hornets

Win home Grizzlies

Wins away Mavs

Win away Spurs

Win away Bulls

Win home Heat



Now look at their next 12 games-



Home vs Raptors

Away vs Suns

Home vs GS

Home vs Sac

Home vs Hawks

Home vs OKC

Away vs OKC

Away vs Grizzlies

Away vs Spurs

Away vs New Orleans

Home vs Washington

Home vs Dallas



Guys, the Lakers may very well win the next 12 games. I'm serious. A 19 game win streak is not out of the question.



I can't imagine that another western conference team has a stretch of 12 games as easy as that one the whole year. Combine it with their first 8 and man, the schedule makers gave the Lakers a road to a fast start....



But the schedule makers don't remove difficult games for long. Now look at this. Starting December 3rd.



Away vs Denver

Away vs Utah

Away vs Portland

Home vs Minny

Away vs Orlando

Away vs Miami

Away vs Atlanta

Away vs Indiana

Away vs Milwaukee

Home vs Denver

Home vs Clippers

Away vs Portland







The Lakers odds at home court advantage will be determined during that bolded stretch. If they can stay healthy and win a good percentage of those games, they'll have a really good shot at a 1-3 seed.Hopefully they can just hang on to sneak into the playoffs. It's going to be tough.

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[the27guy]

Hopefully they can just hang on to sneak into the playoffs. It's going to be tough.

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As long as their big two stay healthy throughout December, they’ll be fine - probably home court. But if either Lebron or AD misses meaningful games in December, they might be in trouble. If either guy is going to miss games at any point this season, the next 11 games would be the time to do it.

I’m surprised Toronto pulled one off tonight.

[blackandgold]

Why AD did not play last night?

[Boo]

Why AD did not play last night?

Shoulder...AGAIN

[pingbling23]

Why AD did not play last night?

He also took a shot in the ribs/abdomen area in the suns game that gave him a lot of discomfort. I’m sure playing the jv warriors also had something to do with it.

[Prospectorsadvantage]

Load management

[MJGOAT23]

It is..but I do think the Lakers will get a top 2 seed, in which case it's going to be quite difficult to make a counter argument. Of course there still are guys like Giannis and Harden that will inevitably be in the race.

I think it's Giannis' to lose. Now Middleton is down and that adds to the all important storyline as he continues to lead the Bucks.

[tjforce]

Relaunching this to in time for tonight's Finals debut of AD....

His Playoffs so far have been nothing short of spectacular.

He's averaging 29 PPG on 57% shooting and only 17 shots per game.

While LeBron is the locker room leader of the Lakers, there can be a serious discussion on which player in the team's best on the court, LeBron or AD.

Starting tonight AD has a chance to make his statement as best player on the planet and start to cement his legacy in L.A.


P.S. - Reading back through the comments, it's nice to see that the Lakers were able to get past that easy schedule to start the season and sneak into the Playoffs. :)

[BreaultCards]

Relaunching this to in time for tonight's Finals debut of AD....

His Playoffs so far have been nothing short of spectacular.

He's averaging 29 PPG on 57% shooting and only 17 shots per game.

While LeBron is the locker room leader of the Lakers, there can be a serious discussion on which player in the team's best on the court, LeBron or AD.

Starting tonight AD has a chance to make his statement as best player on the planet and start to cement his legacy in L.A.


P.S. - Reading back through the comments, it's nice to see that the Lakers were able to get past that easy schedule to start the season and sneak into the Playoffs. :)


AD is amazing and a massive reason the lakers are in the finals. A statement like he might be the best player on the planet, is not realistic. He is top 5 at best and I honestly don’t think he is. Prob 6-10 which is not a knock nor a slight but more realistic.

[tjforce]

AD is amazing and a massive reason the lakers are in the finals. A statement like he might be the best player on the planet, is not realistic. He is top 5 at best and I honestly don’t think he is. Prob 6-10 which is not a knock nor a slight but more realistic.

We'll see what he looks like on the biggest stage.

After all... we watched what happened when the MVP Giannis played these same Miami Heat.

And we'll also get to see what happen when LeBron plays them.

So yes... it's his 'chance' to show how he measures up to the best against a similar opponent.

[bdoody42]

Lakers should win this series in five games max.

[BreaultCards]

We'll see what he looks like on the biggest stage.

After all... we watched what happened when the MVP Giannis played these same Miami Heat.

And we'll also get to see what happen when LeBron plays them.

So yes... it's his 'chance' to show how he measures up to the best against a similar opponent.

If you tell me Davis is better then Giannis, I’m not buying.

[tjforce]

If you tell me Davis is better then Giannis, I’m not buying.

I mean, we saw what Giannis did against the Heat. Here's Davis' chance to see what he can do.

[regularp]

Giannis is a better #1 option over the course of a season than Anthony Davis. In a playoff situation, Brow does not have the same limitations offensively. I expect another monster series out of Davis like he's done throughout his postseason career.

[tjforce]

Giannis is a better #1 option over the course of a season than Anthony Davis. In a playoff situation, Brow does not have the same limitations offensively. I expect another monster series out of Davis like he's done throughout his postseason career.

And that's what we're going to see.

Miami designed defense that slowed down Giannis, while not letting his teammates do too much damage.

Now we can see if Miami can find a way to limit AD.

[volblorx8634]

I'll be interested to see how, if the Lakers win, the Finals MVP shakes out. AD has consistently throughout the playoffs had the stronger statlines, but I think LeBron is more important to the team's success.

[Akphillips86]

I'll be interested to see how, if the Lakers win, the Finals MVP shakes out. AD has consistently throughout the playoffs had the stronger statlines, but I think LeBron is more important to the team's success.


LeBron may end up with the MVP and I wouldn’t knock that decision, but AD is surely a lock for most under appreciated player of the year on Blowout [emoji23]


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[volblorx8634]

LeBron may end up with the MVP and I wouldn’t knock that decision, but AD is surely a lock for most under appreciated player of the year on Blowout [emoji23]


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Yeah, sounds like he's having a great game. My comment had nothing to do with today's game because I'm busy watching the Indians pitching, aka the only chance they had at postseason success, fail them miserably. My comment was in reference to leading up to the Finals. AD has the stats, but LeBron is the puppet master of the offense.

[Akphillips86]

Yeah, sounds like he's having a great game. My comment had nothing to do with today's game because I'm busy watching the Indians pitching, aka the only chance they had at postseason success, fail them miserably. My comment was in reference to leading up to the Finals. AD has the stats, but LeBron is the puppet master of the offense.


No disagreement on LBJ being the centerpiece and very well finals MVP, I think we view it similarly. Sorry about the Indians, I’m a Lindor fan but haven’t followed them much this year.

My commentary is more on the consistent lack of respect AD has received throughout the year on BO and he has proved the haters wrong every step of the way. He is starting to get some credit (reluctantly) but it’s insane how little credit he had received up until recently for the Lakers success.


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[regularp]

LeBron may end up with the MVP and I wouldn’t knock that decision, but AD is surely a lock for most under appreciated player of the year on Blowout [emoji23]


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They should be co-MVPs but one of them alone will win it. They need each other and compliment one another perfectly.

[tjforce]

So yaaaa... About the Giannis comparison...

It's just one game... but I think we can say Davis is ahead. :cry:

.... Miami better be working on a game plan to shut him down.

[volblorx8634]

No disagreement on LBJ being the centerpiece and very well finals MVP, I think we view it similarly. Sorry about the Indians, I’m a Lindor fan but haven’t followed them much this year.

My commentary is more on the consistent lack of respect AD has received throughout the year on BO and he has proved the haters wrong every step of the way. He is starting to get some credit (reluctantly) but it’s insane how little credit he had received up until recently for the Lakers success.


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Fair point, I can see both sides of it. AD can play disengaged at times, but I think the last few weeks he's been incredible.

Lindor has been awful this year except a short stretch of good hitting. He has been largely unimpressive since last year to be honest. I hope he gets traded this offseason and they get a good return back. I think this past offseason was the time to trade him to optimize return. But all in all, the Indians have 6 runs and we're in the 7th. If you told me they would score 6 runs, I would've thought they would win 100%. They lost only one game all season when scoring 6 runs. The best pitching team in baseball has given up 20 runs in 16 innings, hard to win when you can't optimize your strengths. Especially when your weakness, hitting, is so abysmal.

[Akphillips86]

Fair point, I can see both sides of it. AD can play disengaged at times, but I think the last few weeks he's been incredible.

Lindor has been awful this year except a short stretch of good hitting. He has been largely unimpressive since last year to be honest. I hope he gets traded this offseason and they get a good return back. I think this past offseason was the time to trade him to optimize return. But all in all, the Indians have 6 runs and we're in the 7th. If you told me they would score 6 runs, I would've thought they would win 100%. They lost only one game all season when scoring 6 runs. The best pitching team in baseball has given up 20 runs in 16 innings, hard to win when you can't optimize your strengths. Especially when your weakness, hitting, is so abysmal.


Yea he’s going to be getting some love here soon I feel! The two headed monster of LA is formidable. They may have a couple more ships yet to come, we will see if LeBron ages or not haha.

It’s been a strange year for a lot of talented players at the dish. And as a former baseball player I kinda get it. Hitting is a groove thing and it’s delicate. I think the collective weirdness of the season really got some guys out of their rhythm. Nice 2 RBI double there though, Go tribe!


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[The Losing Edge]

To me, if you look at top players in league, you could make argument he is in top 3 on who you'd want for next 3-5 years. I don't think it's really close given aging curve, winning at high level, performance, health, & position. Ill leave team situation aside even tho that's a big part of ringzzz which will always drive reputation.

Think about a simple would you rather for that time frame. Who are you taking over him? This is my two cents from watching/reading over past two months of NBA play.

Old guard, already established.
1. Giannis. A two way physical force coming into prime with multiple MVPs already. AD has better handle and shot than Giannis by a pretty good margin. Defense is comparable, 1-2 in DPOY. Giannis a better athlete. Giannis is younger. Health has been similar to AD. No complaints if you like Giannis.
2. Lebron. I am not taking a 36 year old over AD even if he is 1st or 2nd best player off all time. Age will catch up with him at some point sooner than later to knock him out of top 10 player discussion. No for me.
3. Kawhi. Complete package only a wing instead of a big. Maybe explosiveness not top level but makes up for it in strength, lateral quickness. A few years older. Not exactly known for his health tho. Has winning pedigree if you forget about this years awful game 7. Yes could see it.
4. KD. Hard pass until I see him comeback to live action from torn achilles. Just too major of an injury. Starting to push into wrong side of aging curve as well. No.
5. Steph? Been banged up quite a bit last three years. Shooting will probably never go away. But if he starts losing a step on D, that could be trouble for someone his size who wasn't a great defender in the first place. No for me.
Dame, Harden, Jokic, PG are all easy passes.

Up and coming.
1. Luka. Nothing special on D and lacking athleticism. Has great size for position. Could see him improve athleticism/strength by being in NBA strength conditioning program multiple years and taking it seriously. Such an offense force. Basketball IQ seems to be so High on offense wonder if that will improve his D as he ages. High level international experience at such a young age counts for something to me. Yes for me.
2. Tatum. Two way wing. Can never go wrong there. D superb. Playmaking and handle improving? Needs to keep pull up game from deep he showcased this year. Athleticism above average but not next level. Already good playoff experience. No, but it's not far off.
3. Zion. Health a worry. Conditioning obviously needed work in bubble. Seemed like he was only trying on O and then maybe even picking his spots. Not sure we have even seen top 1% athleticism shine thru (yes this is what he still is when healthy even when compared to NBA player pool). Where are those block/steal numbers he had in college? Hell where are even above average block/steal #'s? Surely his D awareness will improve as he plays more. Shot will never be great but good enough? No based on health and inexperience.
4. Simmons. Injuries and lack of shooting make this one an easy no for me.

Any others in conversation???

To recap I would say Giannis, Kawhi, Luka are all in the camp of yes for me. But I don't think any of them are a slam dunk yes. If you change who want from 3-5 years to career then yes the young up and comers would take over. And if you changed it to just next year then you could probably add Lebron back in. But Looking medium term I cant see more than those three you'd want over AD.

[tjforce]

Revving up for Game 3..... Let's compare AD in 2 games with Giannis' 4 vs the Heat this post season:

Giannis: 22 pts, 11 rebs, 5 assists on 51% shooting
AD: 33 pts, 12 rebs, 3 assists on on 63% shooting.

Let's see what game 3 has in store.

[clipperboy24]

Revving up for Game 3..... Let's compare AD in 2 games with Giannis' 4 vs the Heat this post season:

Giannis: 22 pts, 11 rebs, 5 assists on 51% shooting
AD: 33 pts, 12 rebs, 3 assists on on 63% shooting.

Let's see what game 3 has in store.

Well your Ad crushes Giannis against the Heat narrative didn’t age too well after last night

EDIT: Also, you took the 4 game average, very misleading. Giannis only played 11 minutes before going down with injury in Game 4. He had 17 points, 4 boards and 1 steal and block in those 11 minutes and was on pace for his best game of the series. He was also injured 5 minutes into Game 3, and had by far his worst performance of the series in Game 3. Sounds like a hype job you got going to promote AD

[tjforce]

Well your Ad crushes Giannis against the Heat narrative didn’t age too well after last night

EDIT: Also, you took the 4 game average, very misleading. Giannis only played 11 minutes before going down with injury in Game 4. He had 17 points, 4 boards and 1 steal and block in those 11 minutes and was on pace for his best game of the series. He was also injured 5 minutes into Game 3, and had by far his worst performance of the series in Game 3. Sounds like a hype job you got going to promote AD

Yea... he pretty much disappeared in Game 3, didn't he.

I counted Game 3 and 4 because they both happened and were counted in W/L for the series, so I'm not going to ignore them. Yesterday was ADs worst game, so I'm not going to ignore that.

AD now averaging 27 pts, 9 Rebs, 3 assists of 64% shooting. He needs to be more aggressive and shoot more.

[clipperboy24]

Yea... he pretty much disappeared in Game 3, didn't he.

I counted Game 3 and 4 because they both happened and were counted in W/L for the series, so I'm not going to ignore them. Yesterday was ADs worst game, so I'm not going to ignore that.

AD now averaging 27 pts, 9 Rebs, 3 assists of 64% shooting. He needs to be more aggressive and shoot more.

But Giannis only played 11 minutes in game 4, so it doesn’t make sense to use full game averages. His ppg and RPG would be higher and his FG % would be lower. Foul trouble is one thing but Anthony Davis still played almost 33 minutes. Giannis only played 11 in game 4.

[yiguiri2002]

You know you can solve this by using Per 36 and Advanced stats, right guys?

[GoNYGoNYGo]

They are also different teams completely. One plays with Lebron and the others best player with him is Middleton.

They are both great players and any team would be happy to have either one of them.

[clipperboy24]

You know you can solve this by using Per 36 and Advanced stats, right guys?

Per 36 sucks and of course advanced stats help. TJ Force used skewer info to support his narrative and probably pump his AD collection lol, that’s all I was pointing out

[drobfan8]

I'm taking AD over Giannis every day of the week.

[tjforce]

Per 36 sucks and of course advanced stats help. TJ Force used skewer info to support his narrative and probably pump his AD collection lol, that’s all I was pointing out

LOL.


My Giannis collection is much better than my AD collection.

Nice try.

That and I think you're still salty that I actually did catch you in a lie trying to support your own narrative the other day:

Clipperboy24: "The Heat were up by 8 when Dragic got injured. Can’t say it didn’t have an impact, Herro came in and had the worst +/- of any player since the 2000 finals"

The Heat were actually down 11. Up 8, down 11, same thing.

Now that we're moving on from this failed troll attempt, it'll be interesting to see how AD adjusts in Game 4 to get more looks and also to get to the free throw line.

[clipperboy24]

LOL.


My Giannis collection is much better than my AD collection.

Nice try.

That and I think you're still salty that I actually did catch you in a lie trying to support your own narrative the other day:

Clipperboy24: "The Heat were up by 8 when Dragic got injured. Can’t say it didn’t have an impact, Herro came in and had the worst +/- of any player since the 2000 finals"

The Heat were actually down 11. Up 8, down 11, same thing.

Now that we're moving on from this failed troll attempt, it'll be interesting to see how AD adjusts in Game 4 to get more looks and also to get to the free throw line.

No troll attempt at all, just like you held me accountable for misstating, I truly was, I am a stats geek and thought that Dragic was +8 in the game, and that they heat had outscored the Lakers by 8 with dragic on the floor.

It wasn’t a lie, I looked at the play by play and thought that’s what it was, it was an incorrect statement but not a lie. A lie is intentionally deceiving that’s not what I did and very quickly acknowledged I was wrong. I think most people on BO just don’t take responsibility that they were wrong and try to create a narrative that matches their view. I’d love to meet people from here in person and see how everyone really is, or maybe not lol.

I just think if you are going to use the stats, at least use them accurately. You could be like I did and acknowledge they weren’t used correctly, my case was an honest mistake. With you defending and fighting so much it seems more intentional.

[blackandgold]

I'm taking AD over Giannis every day of the week.

And on Sundays Holidays and Paydays lol