View Full Version : Regarding RCR by Beckett?
Giannis34fan
11-19-2019, 04:22 PM
Does Beckett honor Raw card reviews (RCR) if say for you bought them on the internet or through someone else? As long as the RCR hasn't been tampered with, right? Or do they still have to regrade the card instead of only charging you for the slab?
Does anyone know exactly how it works with Beckett?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. :)
mrchipz
11-19-2019, 04:24 PM
Per their terms the RCR card grade is only valid if submitted then and there at the time. once it leaves then the grade is not guaranteed.
with that being said i have submitted over 50 RCR cards i bought from ebay and every single one of them came back graded exactly what the RCR said. never any variances.ymmv
Giannis34fan
11-19-2019, 04:26 PM
Per their terms the RCR card grade is only valid if submitted then and there at the time. once it leaves then the grade is not guaranteed.
with that being said i have submitted over 50 RCR cards i bought from ebay and every single one of them came back graded exactly what the RCR said. never any variances.ymmv
Oh I see.
This helps.
Thank you for your feedback. :)!
I know someone who had an RCR 10 that came back just a 9.5 FYI.
tmar214
11-19-2019, 05:07 PM
I had about 50 cards that i got RCR that i then sent in for slabbing. 5-6 grades changed because I paid to have them with subs rather than with no subs. I believe the grades are only guaranteed if they are sent in immediately on site and are encased with no sub grades.
I had about 50 cards that i got RCR that i then sent in for slabbing. 5-6 grades changed because I paid to have them with subs rather than with no subs. I believe the grades are only guaranteed if they are sent in immediately on site and are encased with no sub grades.
Not remotely true. The grade is not guaranteed, but so far as it is humanly possible it will be honored. They won't override the grade because they didn't catch a dinged corner or surface scratch on the RR. Unless it is absolutely glaring and awful they'll give it the subs to justify.
RR'd are not honored when the card has been damaged in some way while in the flimsy sleeve. They are not well protected and if you don't take excellent care of them you will damage the card in some way. You need to realize that you can literally scratch the card through the card saver and penny sleeve. They're easy to crease and bend corners. Also, they are terrible to store thicker cards in for extended periods of time so if you leave them in there too long they WILL damage the corners.
I have only ever had 1 RR overturned out of two hundred-ish, it was a card I bought already RR'd, when removing a thick immaculate card it was clear a corner had suffered significant damage while in the sleeve.
tmar214
11-20-2019, 01:38 AM
Not remotely true. The grade is not guaranteed, but so far as it is humanly possible it will be honored. They won't override the grade because they didn't catch a dinged corner or surface scratch on the RR. Unless it is absolutely glaring and awful they'll give it the subs to justify.
RR'd are not honored when the card has been damaged in some way while in the flimsy sleeve. They are not well protected and if you don't take excellent care of them you will damage the card in some way. Also, they are terrible to store thicker cards in for extended periods of time so if you leave them in there too long they WILL damage the corners.
I have only ever had 1 RR overturned, it was a card I bought already RR'd, when removing a thick immaculate card it was clear a corner had suffered significant damage while in the sleeve.
It's entirely true. The cards never left beckett's possession. I was told on high dollar cards they will have to have a second person confirm and grades will sometimes change.
For rcr I had a bgs 9.5 westbrook exquisite rpa drop to a 9. A lebron UD black jersey auto drop from a 8.5 to 7.5 A harden exquisite RC auto go from a 9 to 8.5 and a flawless rpa of anthony davis go from a 9.5 to altered ? Most stayed the same but yea.
GOWIFB
11-20-2019, 01:52 AM
Just so you know it may be possible for a card to be swapped out and for there to be no evidence of tampering. I had a couple RCR sit in a box for a year or two and on one of them the seal opened up meaning I could have switched out the card if I wanted to. Obviously I didnt and I just pressed the seal back into place. I dont know though if it is possible for someone to tamper with the seal immediately without showing evidence of tampering, or if it just has to sit along time like mine did before the seal can come loose by itself.
It's entirely true. The cards never left beckett's possession. I was told on high dollar cards they will have to have a second person confirm and grades will sometimes change.
For rcr I had a bgs 9.5 westbrook exquisite rpa drop to a 9. A lebron UD black jersey auto drop from a 8.5 to 7.5 A harden exquisite RC auto go from a 9 to 8.5 and a flawless rpa of anthony davis go from a 9.5 to altered ? Most stayed the same but yea.
There is absolutely no “no subs” condition. RRs have been around for far longer than the no sub service. If the AD went from 9.5 to altered it’d because evidence of alternation is the type of significant material differ t they actually care about. I literally wrote that.
tmar214
11-20-2019, 03:17 AM
There is absolutely no “no subs” condition. RRs have been around for far longer than the no sub service. If the AD went from 9.5 to altered it’d because evidence of alternation is the type of significant material differ t they actually care about. I literally wrote that.
I set up and hosted a RCR in the last couple months and was told this by Beckett going in. Essentially the card needs to be regraded to include subs and the grade is more likely to change. Many customers had their grades changed. Maybe it was an outlier and our in person grader was overly lenient. I’m merely sharing my experience. The harden exquisite that was RCR a 9 literally came back an 8.5 8.5 9 9. Many people had 9.5s come back as 9s. Either way I wouldn’t buy a RCR card with the expectation that I was guaranteed that grade when sending the card in.
jbettis32
11-20-2019, 07:22 AM
Not exactly, I did a mistake for removing a card of RCR 9, and submit to psa think it is possible to get an upgrade to psa10. After all, the card was returned and not graded as "min. size requirement" means the card was trimmed for centering before getting submitted to bgs rcr.
Doesnt know if I sent the card to bgs will they still honor me the 9 and not measure the card size with the RCR was still intacted from the very beginning.
OldReignman
06-23-2020, 03:02 PM
Might be a stupid question, but if you already have a card graded via Beckett RCR is there a discount to get it encased afterwards?
phdbeckett
06-23-2020, 04:10 PM
I bought a bunch of Lebron on ebay 3 months ago that were RCRed circa 2005.I sent one in yesterday, and I will report in 2 days how it was handled.
messier2
06-23-2020, 06:28 PM
Might be a stupid question, but if you already have a card graded via Beckett RCR is there a discount to get it encased afterwards?
No, same price as raw (minus $2 if auto'd).
celtxman
06-24-2020, 01:53 PM
Ok I've got one for you. Bought a raw card on EBAY that was expensive and serial numbered. Took the card for a RCR. The RCR was for BGS 9. Sent it to be slabbed. It came back as altered. With the help of PayPal I wound up getting my money back.
I decided not to tell the seller that it had the RAW grade first. He was tough enough to deal with without this.
Truth be told this could go either way. I've seen BGS call cards fresh out of the pack "altered." At the same time the seller was also shady.
At the end of the day BGS wants to have it both ways with RCR. They will take the money for RCR and have you pay the whole fee again to slab it. Yet they take no responsibility of they screwed up in either the initial grade or the stabbed grade. This situation could have been a disaster.
KhalDrogo
06-24-2020, 02:08 PM
I know the post is old, but BGS no longer offers a guarantee even when the RCR is directly sent to Dallas from the show. Their justification being that RCR is too rushed and things may get missed.
With BGS fees rising, it may be more advantageous now to RCR and sell instead of slabbing to sell.
phdbeckett
06-25-2020, 01:38 PM
I bought a bunch of Lebron on ebay 3 months ago that were RCRed circa 2005.I sent one in yesterday, and I will report in 2 days how it was handled.
Old RCR 9.5 turned in to a BGS 9
Bummed.
However, 2 old 9.0 Lebron UD Rookies I bought before lockdowns, are now 9.5s.
minnesotachill
06-25-2020, 01:55 PM
My brother sent in a Lavine Prizm BGS 10 RCR, came back a 9.5
I sent in a Harden BGS 9 Titanium Jersey Number, came back a 9.5
So it looks like BGS is actually looking at the cards now, and it seems to be going both ways. Some grade higher, some grade lower.
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