Reggie Miller has a feeling that we won't see Zion play this season...

[davebo]

Was watching the Pels v Suns and Reggie just said that while he "hopes he's wrong" he has a feeling that we will not see Zion play this season. I have found it somewhat interesting that we haven't gotten any updates on his condition.

[mikejones]

Zion going to steal next year's roy like how ben Simmons stole donovan Mitchell's and michael porter was going to steal...... wait nevermind.

[TBlightning]

Zion going to steal next year's roy like how ben Simmons stole donovan Mitchell's and michael porter was going to steal...... wait nevermind.

Hahaha.

Hopefully Zion returns soon, interesting comment though from Reggie and updates do seem to be a little lacking.

[Giantrobot]

He just said that according to Pels officials, his rehab is going as scheduled, and he’s set for a mid-Dec return.

[Spacemanspif]

Reggie been trying to get at Target reloads all day and wants to scare you off

[RandysHobby]

Reggie been trying to get at Target reloads all day and wants to scare you off

Hahahaha

[WalterAZ31]

I called this 3 weeks ago or so. There’s no real incentive to play him unless somehow pelicans make a run towards .500 by the time Christmas hits

[Spacemanspif]

I called this 3 weeks ago or so. There’s no real incentive to play him unless somehow pelicans make a run towards .500 by the time Christmas hits

Huh. The incentive to play him is he’s a 19 year old rookie who needs to start playing and developing real NBA skills. He will sell tickets and jerseys and build real excitement about the team and the NBA. You should take caution with his health, sure, but your statement sounds like they should bench him indefinitely if they’re not in the playoff race, which is a stupid / ridiculous take

[TigerEyes]

Here’s the real scoop, Zion was walking into his local Target to check for Prizm when he spotted another collector, they both sprinted toward the card section and he sprained his knee when jumping over the Excel boxes. Yes, he was making the duck face as he jumped.

[Jasondr91]

Here’s the real scoop, Zion was walking into his local Target to check for Prizm when he spotted another collector, they both sprinted toward the card section and he sprained his knee when jumping over the Excel boxes. Yes, he was making the duck face as he jumped.

:cry:

Top notch post here.

[pingbling23]

honestly, is roy of the year that important? do we look back on a hof career and say, but they didnt win roy....

[dcarado]

I don't see this changing anything from a hobby perspective. People already know he's an injury risk, but he's got too much potential for his prices not to stay high. There just wouldn't be any big spikes. Prices would level out but stay high enough to carry 19/20 products. Hype train would keep rolling.

[Wings]

Reggie been trying to get at Target reloads all day and wants to scare you off

HAHA :D

[LC2nine10]

honestly, is roy of the year that important? do we look back on a hof career and say, but they didnt win roy....

It is for short term flippers, and people stockpiling wax.
Career wise, no one cares, it wont make a hof case or anything. Tyreke evans has one.

[AnthonyCorona]

honestly, is roy of the year that important? do we look back on a hof career and say, but they didnt win roy....



Tyreke Evans won ROY, name me a better player outta that draft!


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[gomiamigo]

Magic Johnson didn't win RoY, he never amounted to anything.

[Noles939913]

honestly, is roy of the year that important? do we look back on a hof career and say, but they didnt win roy....

No but still a nice accolade. I would assume the majority of ROY are HOFers or at the very least multiple time All-Stars.

[sportzluvr1]

Here’s the real scoop, Zion was walking into his local Target to check for Prizm when he spotted another collector, they both sprinted toward the card section and he sprained his knee when jumping over the Excel boxes. Yes, he was making the duck face as he jumped.

Spaceman did it ^ :p

[smalltown]

No but still a nice accolade.

And wether they admit it or not it's something that a lot of players strive for. It's not the be all and end all. But these guys are competitive and want the acknowledgement.

[lepcity]

Reggie been trying to get at Target reloads all day and wants to scare you off

This 😂😂😂😂😂

[dcarado]

It is for short term flippers, and people stockpiling wax.
Career wise, no one cares, it wont make a hof case or anything. Tyreke evans has one.

^^^ exactly. Malcolm Brogdons prices were strong at one time, but nobody thought he was a generational talent. It doesn't matter for Zion, but could make a difference for someone else in this class, like if Eric Paschall were to win it or something.

[pingbling23]

Tyreke Evans won ROY, name me a better player outta that draft!


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there wasnt one that year.

[Wade Mulroy]

Zion has a feeling we won’t see Reggie Miller play this season.

Boom

[Noles939913]

And wether they admit it or not it's something that a lot of players strive for. It's not the be all and end all. But these guys are competitive and want the acknowledgement.

So are they competitive and want the acknowledgement or is it not something a lot of players strive for? It’s basically a byproduct of playing really well as a rookie no less so why wouldn’t all these rookies be trying to be play well and making a name for themselves.

[RogerGodahell]

That would be a shame

[Spacemanspif]

And wether they admit it or not it's something that a lot of players strive for. It's not the be all and end all. But these guys are competitive and want the acknowledgement.

It’s extremely important to these guys. They’re all extremely competitive and know this is the first step to building their legacy. Donovan making special sweatshirts, guys working hard all summer because they think they got “snubbed” from all nba teams / all rookie teams / etc, and maybe not for this award but later on the awards and games played have major financial implications. Whoever mentioned card prices needs to relax and start watching the game for the sport and not how it will affect the value of their stash

[LC2nine10]

Yeah, im sure when jordan/bronbron/bird look bacl, rookoe of the year is 1st and foremost. Kobes up all jight woth sweata pissed about what could have been.
It matters for dudes who arent going to accomplish anything else.

[pingbling23]

It’s extremely important to these guys. They’re all extremely competitive and know this is the first step to building their legacy. Donovan making special sweatshirts, guys working hard all summer because they think they got “snubbed” from all nba teams / all rookie teams / etc, and maybe not for this award but later on the awards and games played have major financial implications. Whoever mentioned card prices needs to relax and start watching the game for the sport and not how it will affect the value of their stash

But is it worth throwing away a season of basketball for?

[brettmik59]

Reggie been trying to get at Target reloads all day and wants to scare you off

He also mentioned he prefers last year's Prizm design to this year's. Clearly a clever attempt to scare people away so he can hoard all the Prizm for himself. Isn't it obvious?!

[Soxfanguy]

19 years old but knees of a 85 year old.....

[Duncancollector]

19 years old but knees of a 85 year old.....

Greg Oden? :D

[Spacemanspif]

But is it worth throwing away a season of basketball for?

Sorry, I’m confused. I’m in the “he should / will play” opinion camp. Nothing to do with the hobby, but the people want to see him play, and from what we saw in college, he wants to be out there as well

[Noles939913]

Yeah, im sure when jordan/bronbron/bird look bacl, rookoe of the year is 1st and foremost. Kobes up all jight woth sweata pissed about what could have been.
It matters for dudes who arent going to accomplish anything else.

Well Kobe barely played his rookie year because he obviously wasn’t ready for heavy minutes at such a young age. Also nobody ever said it was first and foremost, do you always shove words in people’s mouths when debating? It simply means you were the best rookie that year and lol if you think Jordan would’ve been okay with not being the best rookie his rookie year. It’s a nice accolade/addition to a resume.

But looking at your post I see the words woth, jight, sweata, bacl, rookoe, etc. Theres no more reason to argue.

[cloud9]

I watched the game and I'm almost positive that Reggie said that he has a feeling Zion won't play THIS YEAR (as in 2019)... not this season. But what does he know. :) I may have missed some additional commentary later in the game though.

[dgbarnes]

I watched the game and I'm almost positive that Reggie said that he has a feeling Zion won't play THIS YEAR (as in 2019)... not this season. But what does he know. :) I may have missed some additional commentary later in the game though.



Plot twist


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[dcarado]

I watched the game and I'm almost positive that Reggie said that he has a feeling Zion won't play THIS YEAR (as in 2019)... not this season. But what does he know. :) I may have missed some additional commentary later in the game though.

I don't think anybody has any real update on this, but there is no incentive for the Pelicans to sit him unless his knee is really a problem. What would they be saving him for, next year's playoff run? I wouldn't be surprised if they put him on a minutes restriction for a long while once he does return.

[ninjacookies]

I don't think anybody has any real update on this, but there is no incentive for the Pelicans to sit him unless his knee is really a problem. What would they be saving him for, next year's playoff run? I wouldn't be surprised if they put him on a minutes restriction for a long while once he does return.


https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28139279/zion-williamson-getting-better-every-day-pelicans-david-griffin-says

Most likely 8 weeks which is christmas week, as they're understandably being more cautious than aggressive.

Either Reggie meant 2019, or his feeling is as good as a quadriplegic pornstar.

[ThoseBackPages]

no reason to rush him

[Longshot18]

I don't root for guys to fail, get injured, etc.

But if he is a flop, I won't be disappointed.

He's never played a single minute in the NBA and I am already fatigued on him. And the few games he played in preseason where every sports highlight show led with him dunking made me want to barf.

It would be newsworthy if a 6'7 basketball player could not dunk. But a guy dunking-yawn...…

I guess I am old school. Earn your stripes. If fighting an uphill battle in this new social media world where everything happening is everywhere in an instant and winning the battle of most # tags your are mentioned in makes you more popular than your actual accomplishments.

It's not his fault. So in some respects I feel sorry for him. And again, I won't root for him to fail. But the hype is nauseating.

[IronMonkey415]

Zion dunk has no flair. Remember that guy that wore jersey #40 from the Sonics? That guy has it all.

[tazz1213]

Miller said this YEAR (2019) , NOT this season. Gentry commented that they were not going to rush him back in 10 days. Zion fanboys and cardboard addicts can rejoice in knowing he WILL play this season.

[CoolG]

Reggie is now doubling down that Zion won’t play this season.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.12up.com/amp/posts/reggie-miller-doubles-down-on-belief-that-zion-williamson-won-t-play-until-next-season-01dvvmqe10va

[RogerGodahell]

I keep reading that as well. I hope it's not true but i won't be shocked at all if it happens. Yes i know he returned to Duke after a couple weeks when he hurt his knee and that showed he was tough and he wants to play, but this is different now. NO has a lot invested in him and they're thinking about his health years from now. If they say sit, he's probably sitting. The other benefits to not bringing him back this year is another top draft pick next year because why not? The year is already almost a 1/3 over and nothing to play for. Also he will still be qualified as a rookie next year which lets him compete for ROY.

[SethMurphy]

they should send him to the G League


as someone who lives in Erie (home of the Pels affiliate) I would go once or twice to check him out..... I'm also a negative nancy on him being the next coming of Basketball Jesus

[dcarado]

I still contend that Zion sitting out for the season would be the best thing for the hobby right now.

1) There is so much money being poured into inflated 19/20 products, it would be worth trading some of the ups and downs for a little stability. As long as it's viewed as "precautionary" on a team that's going nowhere this year, his singles prices will stay high and wax should level out.

2) This is Lukas year. Luka set new bars for RC prices last year, and all he's doing this year is raising those bars. It just means new price levels for Zion to reach once the attention starts to shift back to him when he does play.

3) There are other guys that were drafted in 19/20 and are actually playing. In a vacuum, take Zion out of this class and price levels are obviously lower. But how much lower? There are some players with really good potential that are getting lost in the "not-dropping-nightly-20/10s" category.

4) Zion is not Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons had a high ceiling, but Zions ceiling is a bit more tangible. Simmons prices did just fine while he sat, and we did not have the highlight reels to stew on that we already have from Zion. If Zion sits, at some point videos will start to circulate of him draining a 3 in practice or breaking the backboard on a dunk, and everyone will remember all the footage of him from Duke, and the hype train will roll on.

[calculusdork]

I still contend that Zion sitting out for the season would be the best thing for the hobby right now.

1) There is so much money being poured into inflated 19/20 products, it would be worth trading some of the ups and downs for a little stability. As long as it's viewed as "precautionary" on a team that's going nowhere this year, his singles prices will stay high and wax should level out.

2) This is Lukas year. Luka set new bars for RC prices last year, and all he's doing this year is raising those bars. It just means new price levels for Zion to reach once the attention starts to shift back to him when he does play.

3) There are other guys that were drafted in 19/20 and are actually playing. In a vacuum, take Zion out of this class and price levels are obviously lower. But how much lower? There are some players with really good potential that are getting lost in the "not-dropping-nightly-20/10s" category.

4) Zion is not Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons had a high ceiling, but Zions ceiling is a bit more tangible. Simmons prices did just fine while he sat, and we did not have the highlight reels to stew on that we already have from Zion. If Zion sits, at some point videos will start to circulate of him draining a 3 in practice or breaking the backboard on a dunk, and everyone will remember all the footage of him from Duke, and the hype train will roll on.

GREAT POST!!!

I just watched Zion's preseason highlights video (again). When he's healthy, dude is going to wreck the NBA.

[KhalDrogo]

Reggie is now doubling down that Zion won’t play this season.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.12up.com/amp/posts/reggie-miller-doubles-down-on-belief-that-zion-williamson-won-t-play-until-next-season-01dvvmqe10va
Reggie must know something.

[calculusdork]

Reggie must know something.

Or he's just playing the journalism game. If he's right, he was the first/loudest to say it. If he's wrong, everyone will forget.

[spurs50fan]

Or he's just playing the journalism game. If he's right, he was the first/loudest to say it. If he's wrong, everyone will forget.

Most likely. Classic buzz but the all the smoke is the reason he can scream fire

[ShaneFalco]

Just watched a Zion preseason highlight reel and I'm hyped again!! Forgot how quick this guy was down low, dude can turn on a dime for being quite stocky. The 2nd effort, the way he can take contact and still move through the lane is impressive. Very exciting to watch!
I say good for him for resting up and getting healthy while he can, his type of game only leads to greatness. He will be back with a vengeance.

[Bob Ross]

The only picture I can paint in my mind is him sitting all season and ruining what could have been the most monumental RC prices in years.

But seriously, we need him healthy so sit him as long as possible until he's ready.

[calculusdork]

Just watched a Zion preseason highlight reel and I'm hyped again!! Forgot how quick this guy was down low, dude can turn on a dime for being quite stocky. The 2nd effort, the way he can take contact and still move through the lane is impressive. Very exciting to watch!
I say good for him for resting up and getting healthy while he can, his type of game only leads to greatness. He will be back with a vengeance.

I know. Not only quick down low, but seems to have above-average vision for that second effort. Excellent passer too ... doesn't get a lot of press for that.

[SirTommyWinAlot]

He's playing in January. That's all there is to it.

[Mantis2499]

People that have never watched Zion need to watch some Duke games from last year. There’s no denying his talent. His game is ready made for the new NBA, as he’s far too strong and explosive for a small man and too quick and agile for a big man to guard. He can get 20 just going to the rim every night. He also is a highly underrated passer and is a very active defender. If he can stay healthy, and that’s a big if, he has Lebron-like ability with, dare I say, more explosiveness.

[mikejones]

Zion reminds me of donovan Mitchell in regards to speed. It seems like everyone is moving in slow motion when they have the ball.

[SteveO21]

"I think six weeks (from Oct. 21) was three days ago. He continues to progress. He's progressing very well. He feels very good about his process. And eight weeks is several days from now, and if we get outside of that, it will be because he hasn't met the metrics for return-to-play that are laid out for him and every player on our team. He will not be treated any differently in terms of the return-to-play metrics." - Pels GM David Griffin

Am I the only one that thinks that sounds like they've told him to lose weight/get in better shape and he hasn't done so yet?

[mondogenerator]

he needs to be down to larry johnson's weight plus or minus 5lbs.

probably may need to change his game a bit too, but if he intends on having a year without crutches or wheelchairs he better sort it out.

[DajuanWagner]

He's too big for the NBA. Hard for him to lose 30 pounds of muscle, but, I guess it's possible...……..


For all those who are all-Prizmas-in on him, hope he can get back on the court......

[calculusdork]

He's too big for the NBA. Hard for him to lose 30 pounds of muscle, but, I guess it's possible...……..

As a relatively renewed basketball spectator, I'm curious why people say this after seeing what he did in the preseason. Is there some strategy to stop him because of his size, or is the suspicion that he'll just always be injured?

[crpav]

I am always confused with the "too big" stuff which I think only has come about because of the knee issues. Shaq was much larger and got bigger the older he got. No knee issues is why nobody said the same thing.

[IceTrae11]

I am always confused with the "too big" stuff which I think only has come about because of the knee issues. Shaq was much larger and got bigger the older he got. No knee issues is why nobody said the same thing.

Shaq never played above the rim or flies around like Zion does and even admitted to playing above weight so he wouldn't be pushed around by ultra-athletic centers, leading to slower play-style (potentially saving his knees in the long run).

[drobfan8]

I am always confused with the "too big" stuff which I think only has come about because of the knee issues. Shaq was much larger and got bigger the older he got. No knee issues is why nobody said the same thing.

I completely agree and Shaq is a good comp. He was as explosive as they come and way quicker than people gave him credit for.

I personally believe the League needs some Zion immediately.

[ninjacookies]

That's the best thing about social media.

As a professional, you can make baseless claims based on gut feelings without any credible sources for heart emoji clicks.




Also; Zion is Robert Traylor 2.0. Because he's a fat, hyper athletic generational prospect, just like the tractor was. I have 5 minutes of basketball experience and am a licensed pediatrician.

[IceTrae11]

That's the best thing about social media.

As a professional, you can make baseless claims based on gut feelings without any credible sources for heart emoji clicks.




Also; Zion is Robert Traylor 2.0. Because he's a fat, hyper athletic generational prospect, just like the tractor was. I have 5 minutes of basketball experience and am a licensed pediatrician.

Shaq and Zion are similarly athletic :)!

[ninjacookies]

Shaq and Zion are similarly athletic :)!

Similar body builds as well. :)!


People not old enough don't realize Shaq come out of college a large mass of muscle. He was also insanely quick for his size. But never really had big ups. It's just that Zion isn't just top heavy, he's built from head to toe...and baby got back. He'll absolutely be best served to lose 15-20 pounds. I do not think he's capable of getting down to 250 or below...he's got massive bone structure. Cannot compare him and Lebron's body type whatsoever...he is in his own lane, more like a built defensive end.

[IceTrae11]

Similar body builds as well. :)!


People not old enough don't realize Shaq come out of college a large mass of muscle. He was also insanely quick for his size. But never really had big ups. It's just that Zion isn't just top heavy, he's built from head to toe...and baby got back. He'll absolutely be best served to lose 15-20 pounds. I do not think he's capable of getting down to 250 or below...he's got massive bone structure. Cannot compare him and Lebron's body type whatsoever...he is in his own lane, more like a built defensive end.

Shaq was a manimal coming out of college, just never an above the rim player. Zion wants to jump 40 inches every time he grabs an uncontested rebound which will lead to excessive wear at his weight. It ain't about being a fatty, he's a fatty that tries too hard. He will learn and lose some weight and be a star.

People gotta recognize why he is having knee issues though, and it is definitely because he is a 285 LB dude flying around on every play.

[Ferg1945]

For those who only remember old Shaq.... dude was a beast.
https://media3.giphy.com/media/KxDR1PBOHxS00/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611221f60bde634ccbfa8976230133899d55d41cfc0&rid=giphy.gif

[PKIPP]

For those who only remember old Shaq.... dude was a beast.
https://media3.giphy.com/media/KxDR1PBOHxS00/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611221f60bde634ccbfa8976230133899d55d41cfc0&rid=giphy.gif

Watching him run the floor on fast breaks was fun. As someone else said, he was very quick for his size. I still prefer the MVP bulldozing post behemoth he was with the Lakers, but ppl forget how great of an athlete he was as a younger player.