Another Day, Another Trimmed PSA 10 Mahomes Contenders from Probstein

[3124508 on COMC]

Buyer beware. Card is from the typical Probstein/PWCC mix PSA sub. This card was first sold by Probstein on 11/11/19 for $10,499. Card is already at $15k with six days and change left.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/383417116077
https://www.psacard.com/auctionprices/football-cards/2017-panini-contenders/patrick-mahomes-ii/auction/3079613/
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2017-panini-contenders-patrick-1959886125

https://i.imgur.com/BIkhOaC.jpg

[SleeperCards]

It's so frustrating when you tell a seller and they just bury their heads in the sand and pawn it off to someone else. It's probably safe to say there are more altered Mahomes Contenders gems than legit ones.

[3124508 on COMC]

PSA sub:

43026542 2014 TOPPS UPDATE BATTING #US26 MOOKIE BETTS GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $87.00 pwcc_auctions
43026543 1991 TOPPS TRADED TIFFANY TIFFANY #101T IVAN RODRIGUEZ GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/15/2019 $243.34 pwcc_auctions
43026544 2010 BOWMAN CHROME DRAFT PICKS & PROSPECTS DP & PROS.-AUTOGRAPH #BDPP78 CHRISTIAN YELICH GEM MT 10 First Sale: 6/4/2019 $940.00 probstein123
43026545 2018 TOPPS HERITAGE CHROME-REFRACTOR #600 SHOHEI OHTANI GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/19/2019 $181.49 pwcc_auctions
43026546 1994 BOWMAN'S BEST REFRACTOR #95 B.LARKIN/D.JETER GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/15/2019 $62.29 pwcc_auctions
43026547 2018 TOPPS HERITAGE ACTION #580 RONALD ACUNA JR. GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $232.50 pwcc_auctions
43026548 2018 TOPPS HERITAGE ACTION #580 RONALD ACUNA JR. GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $225.00 pwcc_auctions
43026549 1993 STADIUM CLUB MURPHY MURPHY #117 DEREK JETER GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/15/2019 $760.00 pwcc_auctions
43026550 1993 STADIUM CLUB MURPHY MURPHY #117 DEREK JETER GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $806.00 pwcc_auctions
43026551 2018 TOPPS HERITAGE #600 SHOHEI OHTANI GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $17.50 pwcc_auctions
43026552 2018 TOPPS HERITAGE COLOR SWAP #600 SHOHEI OHTANI GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/19/2019 $115.00 pwcc_auctions
43026553 2004 BOWMAN CHROME RED REFRACTOR #118 LARRY FITZGERALD GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $440.00 pwcc_auctions
43026554 2000 ULTRA GOLD MEDALLION GOLD MEDALLION #234G TOM BRADY GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $654.00 pwcc_auctions
43026555 1998 FLEER BRILLIANTS BLUE #140B RANDY MOSS GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $33.79 pwcc_auctions
43026556 1998 TOPPS #360 PEYTON MANNING GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $103.50 pwcc_auctions
43026557 2000 PACIFIC #403 TOM BRADY GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $222.34 pwcc_auctions
43026558 2017 PANINI CONTENDERS AUTOGRAPH #303 PATRICK MAHOMES II GEM MT 10 First Sale: 11/12/2019 $10,499.00 probstein123
43026559 2012 PANINI CONTENDERS BLUE JERSEY-AUTOGRAPH #225 RUSSELL WILSON GEM MT 10
43026560 2017 PANINI DONRUSS ELITE PEN PALS AUTOGRAPHS PEN PALS AUTOGRAPHS #JU JUJU SMITH-SCHUSTER GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $79.00 pwcc_auctions
43026561 2001 QUANTUM LEAF #202 DREW BREES GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $122.59 pwcc_auctions
43026562 2001 PACIFIC VANGUARD BOMBS AWAY BOMBS AWAY #13 DREW BREES GEM MT 10
43026563 2005 TOPPS #431 AARON RODGERS GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $91.00 pwcc_auctions
43026564 2005 TOPPS #431 AARON RODGERS GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $90.88 pwcc_auctions
43026565 2001 TOPPS COLLECTION #328 DREW BREES GEM MT 10 First Sale: 11/21/2019 $260.51 pwcc_auctions
43026566 2001 TOPPS #328 DREW BREES GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $214.50 pwcc_auctions
43026567 2001 TOPPS #328 DREW BREES GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $228.50 pwcc_auctions
43026568 2004 TOPPS COLLECTION #375 PHILIP RIVERS GEM MT 10
43026569 2004 TOPPS COLLECTION #375 PHILIP RIVERS GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/21/2019 $34.33 probstein123
43026571 1992 UPPER DECK ERROR, CHAMP. IN 85 & 90 #453 MICHAEL JORDAN GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/20/2019 $139.50 pwcc_auctions
43026572 1992 UPPER DECK ERROR, CHAMP. IN 85 & 90 #453 MICHAEL JORDAN GEM MT 10 First Sale: 7/24/2019 $157.50 pwcc_auctions
43026573 1992 UPPER DECK ERROR, CHAMP. IN 85 & 90 #453 MICHAEL JORDAN GEM MT 10 First Sale: 6/19/2019 $176.50 probstein123
43026574 2005 UPPER DECK #201 SIDNEY CROSBY GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/26/2019 $1,180.00 pwcc_auctions
43026575 2009 UPPER DECK #201 JOHN TAVARES GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/26/2019 $222.50 pwcc_auctions
43026576 2015 UPPER DECK #201 CONNOR McDAVID GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $441.00 pwcc_auctions
43026577 2005 UPPER DECK #443 ALEXANDER OVECHKIN GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/26/2019 $533.00 pwcc_auctions
43026578 2005 UPPER DECK #443 ALEXANDER OVECHKIN GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/21/2019 $433.00 probstein123

[HBMC]

Jesus, look at the top of the card, that thing is not even close to straight. :doh:

[3124508 on COMC]

Still listed.

[49erRCCollector]

2016 Contenders are even worse. Any 10 graded 2016 Contenders is highly suspect. Never seen one that wasn’t beat up out of the pack.

[3124508 on COMC]

2016 Contenders are even worse. Any 10 graded 2016 Contenders is highly suspect. Never seen one that wasn’t beat up out of the pack.

Yep, lots of those have been sliced up as well.

[topnotch2019]

Wow. I listed that card via consignment after we pulled it . So did someone trim it and slab it then resell it ?

Someone sent me this post

[topnotch2019]

Also sorry for any confusion . The one with the breaker background is my pictures . Just trying to get clarification on what’s going on

[3124508 on COMC]

Wow. I listed that card via consignment after we pulled it . So did someone trim it and slab it then resell it ?

Someone sent me this post

Yeah. I assume that’s your photo with the green text background? If so, can you PM or email me buyer ID/info?

ETA: I see your clarification now. Yeah. You’re correct.

[topnotch2019]

Yeah. I assume that’s your photo with the green text background? If so, can you PM or email me buyer ID/info?

ETA: I see your clarification now. Yeah. You’re correct.


How old was this . Can I go that fat back. I can’t even Remember when I listed that mahomes for sale . We haven’t pulled one in forever haha

[3124508 on COMC]

How old was this . Can I go that fat back. I can’t even Remember when I listed that mahomes for sale . We haven’t pulled one in forever haha

October 25, 2018

You can go back to that date or thereabouts in Paypal or you can go through your eBay FB if you leave feedback.

[SleeperCards]

How old was this . Can I go that fat back. I can’t even Remember when I listed that mahomes for sale . We haven’t pulled one in forever haha

Also, if you are like me and don't delete emails, you can search your email eBay notification for that time frame.

[topnotch2019]

October 25, 2018

You can go back to that date or thereabouts in Paypal or you can go through your eBay FB if you leave feedback.

Message coming. Going to check PayPal then I’ll shoot you a message

[3124508 on COMC]

I don’t see any feedback left or received on topnotchsportsbreaks if that’s the account. PayPal will therefore be easier to search.

Buyer may not be trimmer, but there’s a good chance he/she is.

[3124508 on COMC]

Confirmed to be trimmed by Kevin Burge, meaning that Probstein was selling his cards through at least November 2019 and is still currently reselling them. Buyer beware.

[Buysellyell]

Yikes

[HBMC]

Confirmed to be trimmed by Kevin Burge, meaning that Probstein was selling his cards through at least November 2019 and is still currently reselling them. Buyer beware.

Bastardo, Kevin Burge

[pip]

Stunning arrogance from Probstein.

[sethc1020]

Probstein: "lawsuit, what lawsuit"
Ebay: "don't worry about it, keep selling"
PSA "eh"

This stuff is CRAZY!!!! Just keeps Rolling and they could care less. Really Sad for our hobby.

[kyle1707]

Stunning arrogance from Probstein.

None of them seem to care ...

This high end consigners. Somebody is telling them it’s not a crime

Because they are not hiding it at all...

[ksemmel]

PSA sub:

43026542 2014 TOPPS UPDATE BATTING #US26 MOOKIE BETTS GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $87.00 pwcc_auctions
43026543 1991 TOPPS TRADED TIFFANY TIFFANY #101T IVAN RODRIGUEZ GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/15/2019 $243.34 pwcc_auctions
43026544 2010 BOWMAN CHROME DRAFT PICKS & PROSPECTS DP & PROS.-AUTOGRAPH #BDPP78 CHRISTIAN YELICH GEM MT 10 First Sale: 6/4/2019 $940.00 probstein123
43026545 2018 TOPPS HERITAGE CHROME-REFRACTOR #600 SHOHEI OHTANI GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/19/2019 $181.49 pwcc_auctions
43026546 1994 BOWMAN'S BEST REFRACTOR #95 B.LARKIN/D.JETER GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/15/2019 $62.29 pwcc_auctions
43026547 2018 TOPPS HERITAGE ACTION #580 RONALD ACUNA JR. GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $232.50 pwcc_auctions
43026548 2018 TOPPS HERITAGE ACTION #580 RONALD ACUNA JR. GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $225.00 pwcc_auctions
43026549 1993 STADIUM CLUB MURPHY MURPHY #117 DEREK JETER GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/15/2019 $760.00 pwcc_auctions
43026550 1993 STADIUM CLUB MURPHY MURPHY #117 DEREK JETER GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $806.00 pwcc_auctions
43026551 2018 TOPPS HERITAGE #600 SHOHEI OHTANI GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $17.50 pwcc_auctions
43026552 2018 TOPPS HERITAGE COLOR SWAP #600 SHOHEI OHTANI GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/19/2019 $115.00 pwcc_auctions
43026553 2004 BOWMAN CHROME RED REFRACTOR #118 LARRY FITZGERALD GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $440.00 pwcc_auctions
43026554 2000 ULTRA GOLD MEDALLION GOLD MEDALLION #234G TOM BRADY GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $654.00 pwcc_auctions
43026555 1998 FLEER BRILLIANTS BLUE #140B RANDY MOSS GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $33.79 pwcc_auctions
43026556 1998 TOPPS #360 PEYTON MANNING GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $103.50 pwcc_auctions
43026557 2000 PACIFIC #403 TOM BRADY GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $222.34 pwcc_auctions
43026558 2017 PANINI CONTENDERS AUTOGRAPH #303 PATRICK MAHOMES II GEM MT 10 First Sale: 11/12/2019 $10,499.00 probstein123
43026559 2012 PANINI CONTENDERS BLUE JERSEY-AUTOGRAPH #225 RUSSELL WILSON GEM MT 10
43026560 2017 PANINI DONRUSS ELITE PEN PALS AUTOGRAPHS PEN PALS AUTOGRAPHS #JU JUJU SMITH-SCHUSTER GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $79.00 pwcc_auctions
43026561 2001 QUANTUM LEAF #202 DREW BREES GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $122.59 pwcc_auctions
43026562 2001 PACIFIC VANGUARD BOMBS AWAY BOMBS AWAY #13 DREW BREES GEM MT 10
43026563 2005 TOPPS #431 AARON RODGERS GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $91.00 pwcc_auctions
43026564 2005 TOPPS #431 AARON RODGERS GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $90.88 pwcc_auctions
43026565 2001 TOPPS COLLECTION #328 DREW BREES GEM MT 10 First Sale: 11/21/2019 $260.51 pwcc_auctions
43026566 2001 TOPPS #328 DREW BREES GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $214.50 pwcc_auctions
43026567 2001 TOPPS #328 DREW BREES GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/23/2019 $228.50 pwcc_auctions
43026568 2004 TOPPS COLLECTION #375 PHILIP RIVERS GEM MT 10
43026569 2004 TOPPS COLLECTION #375 PHILIP RIVERS GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/21/2019 $34.33 probstein123
43026571 1992 UPPER DECK ERROR, CHAMP. IN 85 & 90 #453 MICHAEL JORDAN GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/20/2019 $139.50 pwcc_auctions
43026572 1992 UPPER DECK ERROR, CHAMP. IN 85 & 90 #453 MICHAEL JORDAN GEM MT 10 First Sale: 7/24/2019 $157.50 pwcc_auctions
43026573 1992 UPPER DECK ERROR, CHAMP. IN 85 & 90 #453 MICHAEL JORDAN GEM MT 10 First Sale: 6/19/2019 $176.50 probstein123
43026574 2005 UPPER DECK #201 SIDNEY CROSBY GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/26/2019 $1,180.00 pwcc_auctions
43026575 2009 UPPER DECK #201 JOHN TAVARES GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/26/2019 $222.50 pwcc_auctions
43026576 2015 UPPER DECK #201 CONNOR McDAVID GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/30/2019 $441.00 pwcc_auctions
43026577 2005 UPPER DECK #443 ALEXANDER OVECHKIN GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/26/2019 $533.00 pwcc_auctions
43026578 2005 UPPER DECK #443 ALEXANDER OVECHKIN GEM MT 10 First Sale: 5/21/2019 $433.00 probstein123



Not a single non-10 card...

[3124508 on COMC]

Not a single non-10 card...

That’s why PSA 10s are the most altered (by number) of any grade or grader. You have stuff like this thousands and thousands of times over.

[mrdallas]

While it is safe to assume that there are more card doctors out there then most of us will ever be aware of... The sheer magnitude of cards run through PWCC/Probstein etc is mind blowing.

I ran into a card the other day that was sold by wither Probstein or PWCC... It was relisted less than 1 week later by the other one. Either Probstein or PWCC. In other words, card "sold" through one then within a week listed and being sold through the other. It was a PSA graded card with matching PSA# so I know it was the same card.

I will try to find it, but as fast as the card went from one to the other it had me thinking it was almost as if the two consignors are working in cahoots to an extent. And this is NOT the first time I have seen this in the past year or so. Where one sells a card that is obviously shilled and sold. Then, miraculously finds its way to the other consignor within 1 to 2 weeks. I want to kick myself for not marking the card down so i can remember.

[3124508 on COMC]

This has been taken down. On to the next one.

[SleeperCards]

Bump, card recently sold again via Probstein.

[superdan49]

At least Rick can always honestly blame sloppy record keeping for repeatedly selling trimmed, fake, and altered merchandise.