Anfernee Simons vs Gary Trent Jr.

[dsprague12]

I'm confused as to why Simons prices are so high by comparison to Trent. They're 6 months apart in age and Trent has outproduced Simons for months and is definitively ahead of him in the Blazers' rotation. I realize neither one is likely to ever have a huge hobby following, particularly in Portland and behind Lillard & McCollum, but still seems illogical to me.

[ninjacookies]

Because one shares the name of a Jailblazers era huskyboi, while the other a 90's legend that played alongside prime Shaq.


I know I've mistakenly pressed the BIN on several Simons high end while doing Penny searches on the bay.

[Giantrobot]

Trent has definitely outplayed him. Probably more to do with the previous Simons hype and maybe people being invested in him already. I agree Trent is undervalued in comparison.

[ThePackLife]

Simons hype dates all the way back to last year where he literally had one good game and dropped 40+ which was also the last game of the season. lol. He carried that over into summer league and killed it. Trent just started putting up stats like this in the last month. Simons has been prospected much longer and is why hes currently more valued.

[BigMeech23]

Simons has shown flashes of potential in the past with his game, but consistency is his biggest issue. He also isn't as strong physically in comparison to other guards, which would make him a liability on the defensive end. However, his ceiling is very high and if he could work on these weaknesses of his, he can very well become a star.

Trent on the other hand offers a lot to the lineup as a consistent 3&D player. If I recall correctly, he's shooting over 40% from the 3, which is especially important for spacing and an iso-focused offense with the Blazers. Not to mention that he's also a versatile defender who plays with much effort. His ceiling shouldn't be as high as Simons, but he's a much more consistent option between the two.

[ninjacookies]

Hope this indirect hype thread gains some steam.


I've got some rc's of The Weekend Jr. that I can't even barter for aquarium rocks at the swap meet.

[ThePackLife]

Hope this indirect hype thread gains some steam.


I've got some rc's of The Weekend Jr. that I can't even barter for aquarium rocks at the swap meet.

LMAO

Ive got some as well and his cards have definitely gained some traction. His silver prizm might actually get you a meal at Dennys. Minus tax and tip tho.

[ninjacookies]

His silver prizm might actually get you a meal at Dennys. Minus tax and tip tho.


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-03-2015/3mSKz-.gif

Please don't tug at my heart strings like that.

[Giantrobot]

LMAO

Ive got some as well and his cards have definitely gained some traction. His silver prizm might actually get you a meal at Dennys. Minus tax and tip tho.

A Caleb Swanigan should cover the rest.

[Hazen]

Simons has shown flashes of potential in the past with his game, but consistency is his biggest issue. He also isn't as strong physically in comparison to other guards, which would make him a liability on the defensive end. However, his ceiling is very high and if he could work on these weaknesses of his, he can very well become a star.

Trent on the other hand offers a lot to the lineup as a consistent 3&D player. If I recall correctly, he's shooting over 40% from the 3, which is especially important for spacing and an iso-focused offense with the Blazers. Not to mention that he's also a versatile defender who plays with much effort. His ceiling shouldn't be as high as Simons, but he's a much more consistent option between the two.

I’d agree with this and also add they are being asked to do two completely different things. Simons started the season with a lot of hype and was handed the back up point spot, expected to run the offense, score and distribute. All of it looks to be a little much for him at this point in his young career.

GTJ is asked to shoot and play D. Two things he could do coming out of college. Now he’s getting the chance to show he can do both at the nba level.

I’ll be the fist to admit I’m bias but I see them as two nice young pieces and am excited for their future. Also Trent Jr. has been one of my favorite players to watch this season. He’s been a bright spot in a season that didn’t go as planned.

[Eighty]

Got to agree with Hazen.

Eighty aka CardboardChuy



I’d agree with this and also add they are being asked to do two completely different things. Simons started the season with a lot of hype and was handed the back up point spot, expected to run the offense, score and distribute. All of it looks to be a little much for him at this point in his young career.

GTJ is asked to shoot and play D. Two things he could do coming out of college. Now he’s getting the chance to show he can do both at the nba level.

I’ll be the fist to admit I’m bias but I see them as two nice young pieces and am excited for their future. Also Trent Jr. has been one of my favorite players to watch this season. He’s been a bright spot in a season that didn’t go as planned.

[Breaksandfakes]

Because one shares the name of a Jailblazers era huskyboi, while the other a 90's legend that played alongside prime Shaq.


I know I've mistakenly pressed the BIN on several Simons high end while doing Penny searches on the bay.

Screwy logic... Trent’s father was the Shaq of the MAC in the early/mid 90’s

[rifleman69]

Simons is not a point guard, he's much better as the backup SG. Trent Jr can run the point but he's also better suited as a SG. Both have to pick up the rebounding/steals/defense if they really want more minutes behind Lillard and McCollum.

[ninjacookies]

Screwy logic... Trent’s father was the Shaq of the MAC in the early/mid 90’s

Shaq of the Big Mac in his NBA days.


Realistically, what the poster above me says holds true.


Their shot to shine will be hampered by the existence of Lillard and CJ. Both are too small to play forward full time, and neither are true pg's.

[dsprague12]

Question remains relevant.

2 DNPs for Simons in the bubble and Trent scoring 19 ppg in 30 mpg the bubble.

Just saying.


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[Justin7]

Neither. Neither. Neither. Who?

[Bruin7]

Long term I feel Anfernee Simons will outshine. I watched him play at IMG when I lived in Florida. He's special and NOTHING phases him. I've seen kids have a bad day on their IG account play like crap at IMG. He's super quiet but confident; unique combo trait. Also Dame has dubbed him his successor (at least that's what I heard last).

[BigMeech23]

If Blazers want a chance at a play-in with the Grizzlies for the 8th seed, there's no way Simons will be getting any minutes. Either Dame or CJ have to be on the court for every possession, so they'll simply be subbed in for GTJ when one of them needs a rest. GTJ offers so much as an offensive threat from the perimeter and a versatile defender against opposing team's playmakers. Simons is too inconsistent of a player and isn't able to make up for that on the defensive end so I really don't expect him to play even a minute on the court until next season, whether that be on the Blazers or on another team if the Blazers opt to trade him.

[dsprague12]

Neither. Neither. Neither. Who?

People can collect lesser names if they want. Also money to be made on lower end players - same as high end (albeit at smaller net/gross amounts).

Trent’s Silver PSA 10s have gone from $20-$30 several months ago to $70 of late. If 2-3x your $ isn’t your thing, no worries. Meanwhile, Simons are still doing $150. Plenty of reason to think Trent’s have some room to go up.

[Justin7]

People can collect lesser names if they want. Also money to be made on lower end players - same as high end (albeit at smaller net/gross amounts).

Trent’s Silver PSA 10s have gone from $20-$30 several months ago to $70 of late. If 2-3x your $ isn’t your thing, no worries. Meanwhile, Simons are still doing $150. Plenty of reason to think Trent’s have some room to go up.

Basketball cards are up 687% this year. 10x is normal. This is the worst place to put your money. Don't do this as an investment lol but if you want to collect for fun go for it just don't hype up no names trying to get everyone else to buy it's funny and obvious.

[ninjacookies]

I'm still a believer in The Weeknd.


His fashionable dreads seemed to have sparked an internal reawakening this year. Same with CJ.


They need to get Nurk to grow em out Lil Pump style. A Cool Runnings cast may be their only shot at a title.

[mcwildcats]

Let's goooo Simons! I need to re-visit which Simons NT RPAs I have and what they're going for...haven't looked at this in a bit. Also need to look at what my Fox NT RPAs are going for now. Been so focused on unopened wax, I forget about some of my singles.

[dsprague12]

Basketball cards are up 687% this year. 10x is normal. This is the worst place to put your money. Don't do this as an investment lol but if you want to collect for fun go for it just don't hype up no names trying to get everyone else to buy it's funny and obvious.

I own one Trent silver psa 10. I have no incentive nor means to ‘hype’ him. And, no, 10x is not ‘normal’ outside of a select few superstars and even then your 10x number is a stretch.

I will, however, happily hype Drew Lock to anyone that wants to listen.

[Justin7]

I own one Trent silver psa 10. I have no incentive nor means to ‘hype’ him. And, no, 10x is not ‘normal’ outside of a select few superstars and even then your 10x number is a stretch.

I will, however, happily hype Drew Lock to anyone that wants to listen.

I think 10x is closer to an average than a stretch in this market especially for anyone who bought Luka Giannis or Zion. You're selling it like "2-3x your money not bad?!!?!!" Lol you sound like someone who puts "HOT FIRE INVEST NOW PSA 10?" in their card titles. Never heard of this guy. Anyways, not here to debate. Have a good one.

[dsprague12]

eBay name is below my username. Feel free to check out all my listings for the complete lack of Gary Trent cards as well as the complete lack of hyperbolic titles. Nice try though.

If 10x was common, the “average” increase of 687% you pulled out of thin air would presumably be closer to 1000%. It’s okay, math is hard.

Not everyone can be a baller like you and collect/invest solely in Giannis, Zion, and Luka.

I will be sure to get all of my future posts here and eBay listings approved by you.

Cheers.


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[Justin7]

eBay name is below my username. Feel free to check out all my listings for the complete lack of Gary Trent cards as well as the complete lack of hyperbolic titles. Nice try though.

If 10x was common, the “average” increase of 687% you pulled out of thin air would presumably be closer to 1000%. It’s okay, math is hard.

Not everyone can be a baller like you and collect/invest solely in Giannis, Zion, and Luka.

I will be sure to get all of my future posts here and eBay listings approved by you.

Cheers.


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You totally misunderstood what I was saying. I was saying it's a similar mentality. I'm sorry not meaning to brag about my results I think more people in basketball have had these kind of big returns than you think! It's not just those guys, AD Kawhi all 1996 cards etc. I mean you are seriously understating it. If 680% is average then the more experienced collectors experiencing 10x this year is pretty average. I think you're completely missing the point here. 687% increase in basketball sales is not out of thin air but was posted in a recent Ebay community article. No need to be so offended by someone pointing out how much the market has grown this year, everyone already knows this.

Anyways, all good, enjoy watching whoever this guy is I don't even know who he plays for.

[ClipsandVols]

GTJ all day.

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[dsprague12]

You totally misunderstood what I was saying. I was saying it's a similar mentality. I'm sorry not meaning to brag about my results I think more people in basketball have had these kind of big returns than you think! It's not just those guys, AD Kawhi all 1996 cards etc. I mean you are seriously understating it. If 680% is average then the more experienced collectors experiencing 10x this year is pretty average. I think you're completely missing the point here. 687% increase in basketball sales is not out of thin air but was posted in a recent Ebay community article. No need to be so offended by someone pointing out how much the market has grown this year, everyone already knows this.

Anyways, all good, enjoy watching whoever this guy is I don't even know who he plays for.


Brilliant. So you insult someone for posting on a basketball card forum about basketball cards while freely admitting you don’t even know anything about the topic/player at hand?

I am not saying Trent is Jokic, Siakam, Devontae Graham, Brad Beal, etc., but I’m guessing you probably didn’t know who they were their 1st/2nd year either, or, if you did, didn’t think they’d blow up. Do I think Trent will? No. Is there any harm in me making a thread about him? No.

Trent and Simons both play for Portland. They are in the same rookie class (2018), are both 21 and younger, and compete for minutes. It is not unreasonable to compare the two in relation to prices of their cards.

I did not tell anyone to buy either nor do I have any of either I am selling.

My personal opinion, but you seem like a jerk.


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[Justin7]

Never insulted you. Seems to me you took me pointing out these no-names are irrelevant from a hobby perspective personally. Just don't want to see people getting constantly burned by one-off games from no-name players. No need to be so defensive. Have a good one.

[dsprague12]

I think 10x is closer to an average than a stretch in this market especially for anyone who bought Luka Giannis or Zion. You're selling it like "2-3x your money not bad?!!?!!" Lol you sound like someone who puts "HOT FIRE INVEST NOW PSA 10?" in their card titles. Never heard of this guy. Anyways, not here to debate. Have a good one.

“Lol you sound like someone who puts "HOT FIRE INVEST NOW PSA 10?" in their card titles.”

You’re right, never insulted me.


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[whoaitsg33]

gary trent jr is nice if you want a nice solid guard that can score a bit and defend. think wilson chandler or wes matthews.

anfernee simons truly has all star potential.

[jlawje]

gary trent jr is nice if you want a nice solid guard that can score a bit and defend. think wilson chandler or wes matthews.

anfernee simons truly has all star potential.

I don’t get the sentiment that GTJ is close to his ceiling. Right now he’s a spot up 40% 3 pt shooter, with mid range J and great D. We don’t see him attacking that rim much on the dribble, but that’s because that’s it’s not his role with CJ and or Dame always on the court with him. If he develops that watch out.

[LovelyLlamas]

Brilliant. So you insult someone for posting on a basketball card forum about basketball cards while freely admitting you don’t even know anything about the topic/player at hand?

I am not saying Trent is Jokic, Siakam, Devontae Graham, Brad Beal, etc., but I’m guessing you probably didn’t know who they were their 1st/2nd year either, or, if you did, didn’t think they’d blow up. Do I think Trent will? No. Is there any harm in me making a thread about him? No.

Trent and Simons both play for Portland. They are in the same rookie class (2018), are both 21 and younger, and compete for minutes. It is not unreasonable to compare the two in relation to prices of their cards.

I did not tell anyone to buy either nor do I have any of either I am selling.

My personal opinion, but you seem like a jerk.


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Trent will be better than Graham. He’s about 4 years younger than him and is a much better defender and shooter. I agree with the rest of your post.

What makes the guys like TJ Warren, Trent, Graham, Mikal Bridges is that they have very low buy ins and can net substantial gains. Buying a Trent prizm for 50 cents and turning it into 8-10$ might not seem like a lot, but it’s a classic strategy for those who can’t afford Zion rookies out of the gate. I’m no flipper myself but outside of Lebron. Kobe and Jordan, there aren’t many sure things in the hobby. Guys like Giannis, Luka, Zion are young but they will need to produce on the big stage eventually for these insane prices to hold up. I would be cautious pumping big money into these guys right now.

[mondogenerator]

Simons got Dame in front of him and we need Dame on the court to win.

GTJ doing what he is good at and there are minutes for him.

GTJ has a better shot at a career.

[jcardstore]

They both suck, end of story.

Well maybe not suck but like their combined ceiling is like a rotation player at best. Have fun throwing money away!

I mean Trent is a decent all around player, good scorer but really ask yourself what is his upside? I think Trent has a much much higher floor and chance to be a solid NBA player in the future.

Never understood the Simons hype.

[hauntedcomputer]

Well, one's a career seventh man and the other is a career eighth man. That's like the difference between a PSA 9 and PSA 10.

[whoaitsg33]

I don’t get the sentiment that GTJ is close to his ceiling. Right now he’s a spot up 40% 3 pt shooter, with mid range J and great D. We don’t see him attacking that rim much on the dribble, but that’s because that’s it’s not his role with CJ and or Dame always on the court with him. If he develops that watch out.

you quoted me as if im insulting GTJ lol

both wesley matthews and wilson chandler had excellent nba careers.


if you’re expecting him to be more than that, then i dont know what to tell you

[dcarado]

I must have missed this thread back in March cuz until yesterday after watching Boston-Portland, all my GTJs were still in the attic. Anybody else feel like the pool of "undervalued, future superstar potential" guys is like 70% of the NBA right now?

[jcardstore]

I must have missed this thread back in March cuz until yesterday after watching Boston-Portland, all my GTJs were still in the attic. Anybody else feel like the pool of "undervalued, future superstar potential" guys is like 70% of the NBA right now?

Just ask BO, basically every player that ever had a good game under the age of 30 fits that description

[dsprague12]

20+ ppg in what amounts to 4 must win playoff games for the Blazers as a 21 yo 6th man. Raw silvers now selling for $50+ consistently. He sucks though.

Just an update to piss Justin7 off.


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[ninjacookies]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/1wXgFju6dbBYU3znki/giphy.gif

Compra la dip.

Word is the staff has had enough of CJ's g-league contributions and is already in offseason trade discussions to make Simons the offenses focal point. McCollum'll be shipped to Phoenix along with 2 future first rounders for Mikal 'What you talkin bout Willis?' Bridges.

[Justin7]

20+ ppg in what amounts to 4 must win playoff games for the Blazers as a 21 yo 6th man. Raw silvers now selling for $50+ consistently. He sucks though.

Just an update to piss Justin7 off.


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Congrats on the $50 dude.

[dsprague12]

Congrats on the $50 dude.


Ha. Glad to see it worked.


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[Justin7]

Ha. Glad to see it worked.


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A numbered /999 Lou Williams Refractor rookie just sold for $30. Or you could buy a Gary Trent Jr. Silver for $50+. But you do you boo boo.

[dsprague12]

You are the gift that keeps on giving


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[thefranchise3]

A numbered /999 Lou Williams Refractor rookie just sold for $30. Or you could buy a Gary Trent Jr. Silver for $50+. But you do you boo boo.

As someone with a giant Lou Williams collection, it's insulting to see prices for inferior players higher than the greatest (or 2nd greatest) 6th man in NBA history.

[dsprague12]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbareturn29603424/michael-porter-jr-eight-more-breakout-nba-players-orlando


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[brock]

As an Anfernee Simons supporter and holder of a handful of PSA 10 Silver Prizms (in at around $50 a pop) I'm really disappointed to see that he can't get on the floor. Defense is 90% effort... My support for Simons is waning.

I'll hold the cards since they were cheap and I like the kid / the IMG story, but sheesh.


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[rifleman69]

As an Anfernee Simons supporter and holder of a handful of PSA 10 Silver Prizms (in at around $50 a pop) I'm really disappointed to see that he can't get on the floor. Defense is 90% effort... My support for Simons is waning.

I'll hold the cards since they were cheap and I like the kid / the IMG story, but sheesh.


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Because he can only do one thing whereas Trent Jr can do 2-3 pretty good. Not really rocket science...Simons will most likely be on a new team after next year.

[jlawje]

As an Anfernee Simons supporter and holder of a handful of PSA 10 Silver Prizms (in at around $50 a pop) I'm really disappointed to see that he can't get on the floor. Defense is 90% effort... My support for Simons is waning.

I'll hold the cards since they were cheap and I like the kid / the IMG story, but sheesh.


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Simons is in a much more difficult spot than GTJ because he’s taking on the role of the guy who’s supposed to be initiate the offense, take dudes on ISO, and make plays for other guys. He super young and had a lot of hype which probably weighs on him. Don’t give up on him yet.

[Dusty1985]

They both suck, end of story.

Well maybe not suck but like their combined ceiling is like a rotation player at best. Have fun throwing money away!

I mean Trent is a decent all around player, good scorer but really ask yourself what is his upside? I think Trent has a much much higher floor and chance to be a solid NBA player in the future.

Never understood the Simons hype.

If they both sucked .. they’d not be in the league. Not everyone thinks of it as throwing money away.
Now having cards graded and sitting and turning down profit and then raising the price when no one bites. ; you are throwing away $$ at that rate

[90sbasketballin]

Gary Trent Jr. is the better player at the moment. With more minutes, he's been able to really demonstrate what he brings to the Blazers and I hope he keeps it up. He's only 21. Can't believe his prizms were $0.50 a pop and are now going for $15.

Big profits for those who purchased his cards in bulk.

[Donkaylove]

Simons is in a much more difficult spot than GTJ because he’s taking on the role of the guy who’s supposed to be initiate the offense, take dudes on ISO, and make plays for other guys. He super young and had a lot of hype which probably weighs on him. Don’t give up on him yet.



y--hes stoned out there. skilled, young, but low iq so far. I assumed brandon Ingram was always gonna languish out there as a zombie, but he is obviously finding his groove.

Gary Trent is exactly the player we need.....kersey,matthews,trent sr., do work! new fave player, even plays/trys to defend. Simons on the other hand....prob stoned. No pass angles, poor at cuttting/awareness, andhes young so he gets a pass. fewer minutes lately too--milquetoast terry not having it.

[ninjacookies]

The Weeknd goating on a Monday.

Dust off them Prizms and prep thy Samsonites for Cancun.

[Akphillips86]

The Weeknd goating on a Monday.

Dust off them Prizms and prep thy Samsonites for Cancun.


GTJ was absolutely en fuego. I would love for the Pels to land him or get ol’ Buddy Buckets back. They need another lights out shooter badly.


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[ninjacookies]

GTJ was absolutely en fuego. I would love for the Pels to land him or get ol’ Buddy Buckets back. They need another lights out shooter badly.


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All of this. And he's a plus defender. Gimme.

[boxbuster7]

All of this. And he's a plus defender. Gimme.

He might've been the best pure shooter in the bubble. When he gets hot, dude does not miss.

[ninjacookies]

He might've been the best pure shooter in the bubble. When he gets hot, dude does not miss.


Shot 42 percent from deep last year on limited touches.

He's like Seth Curry with better hair.

[Kphillbilly]

shot 42 percent from deep last year on limited touches.

He's like seth curry with better hair.

lol 🤣🤣🤣

[lietuvalabas]

so i guess getting this for $20 raw last season wasn't awful? what is awful however is my BIN/BO asking price on it.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50706016473_544394feaf_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kfHA8k)psaultramodern3 (https://flic.kr/p/2kfHA8k) by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/153647727@N08/]

[rifleman69]

Even Gary Trent Sr pays hard earned money to watch Gary Trent Jr play. Huge buckets last night, shut that Lebrawn kid up for a bit.

[jcardstore]

Imagine paying $500 for a Gary Trent Jr Silver Prizm psa 10 :cry:

[ClipsandVols]

so i guess getting this for $20 raw last season wasn't awful? what is awful however is my BIN/BO asking price on it.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50706016473_544394feaf_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kfHA8k)psaultramodern3 (https://flic.kr/p/2kfHA8k) by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/153647727@N08/]

That should be around $200 in cards but nope...more like $2k haha. God bless this hobby!

[lietuvalabas]

That should be around $200 in cards but nope...more like $2k haha. God bless this hobby!

oh totally agreed, its madness. to clarify just the trent was $20. the mann auto was my best auto (strong eye roll) out of 2 boxes of retail that everyone was buying up pre sale on walmart. unbeknownst to me until after i graded it that this style of prizm auto is pretty SPed, i almost didnt grade it because well...its terance mann, turns out the card is like $200 in gem..what a world :doh:

[ClipsandVols]

oh totally agreed, its madness. to clarify just the trent was $20. the mann auto was my best auto (strong eye roll) out of 2 boxes of retail that everyone was buying up pre sale on walmart. unbeknownst to me until after i graded it that this style of prizm auto is pretty SPed, i almost didnt grade it because well...its terance mann, turns out the card is like $200 in gem..what a world :doh:

Those Prizm autos are hideous IMO. I pulled a Smailagic and sold it for peanuts on COMC. Didn't realize they were SP until later. It's always nice to see a good guy come on on these um....interesting buying times.

[lietuvalabas]

Those Prizm autos are hideous IMO. I pulled a Smailagic and sold it for peanuts on COMC. Didn't realize they were SP until later. It's always nice to see a good guy come on on these um....interesting buying times.

haha thanks man, i echo your sentiments, ive always enjoyed your content on here. and interesting to say the least my friend. I don't get, but ill take it.
And yeah they may be SPed, but thank the lord, because yeah they arent awesome looking. But i think thats because i don't like the 19-20 style in the least, even the colors look $hittier this year. 2018-19 stocked rookie class aside, just looked leaps and bounds better in style/design.

[gomiamigo]

Imagine paying $500 for a Gary Trent Jr Silver Prizm psa 10 :cry:

I guess my blue ice/99 is worth something then? Off-centered but I guess I'll go dig it up from my prizm boxes.

[jcardstore]

I guess my blue ice/99 is worth something then? Off-centered but I guess I'll go dig it up from my prizm boxes.

Someone is going to pay you an arm and a leg for that lmao

[gomiamigo]

Nah, I wish there's one posted at 249 with no takers - raw, like mine.

PSA 10 would be different but mine is notably off-center, sadly.


If Markelle can 6x in a year, maybe Trent can from here??

[The_Reverend]

I am starting to think grade all grade worthy Prizm rc’s. PSA 10’s are becoming a commodity.

[Mahomie]

Just a couple low-end retail hits I dug up today:

https://i.imgur.com/xsIj6kg.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/52ViKYc.jpg

[ninjacookies]

Market Movers 3.46 just printed an inverted hammer with hidden stoch divergence on the monthly. Grats to all those that HEDL Bella Hadid's sugar daddy.

http://media4.giphy.com/media/iYEvkJb0PJJCg/giphy.gif

I feel it comin.

[boxbuster7]

It really is crazy. If this were 1 year ago we'd be looking at $100 silver prizms. Now they're barely sniffing $20. Not being in the team he currently plays for kind of hurts, but it is going to take more than a few 30 point games to get the hobbies interest again.

[rifleman69]

You still need 1000 GT Sr's to equal 1 GT Jr.