LeBron James - 2003-04 UD Exquisite RPA 1/99 - Coming to auction

[jterp5]

Predictions on price, all things considered? Should be interesting

https://goldinauctions.com/2003_04_UD__Exquisite_Collection___78_LeBron_James-LOT59762.aspx

[90sbasketballin]

Well even though the patch is trash, it is technically the first one ever made so... someone is BREAKING the bank soon...

[dcarado]

One. Million. Dollars.

[hermanotarjeta]

Altered.

Yes, I would kick it out of bed.

[strider_boi]

Naturner will be winning that one...

[gomiamigo]

what do these go for altered, like 100k?

[ThoseBackPages]

pumpers paradise

[Archangel1775]

Altered.

Yes, I would kick it out of bed.

Pfffttt...in the morning, worth a quick flip! :P

[Onepocketj]

I think the "8" grade for the signature is pretty harsh.

[Deadshot]

So now we're up to:

1/99 (BGS altered slab, Goldin suspected trimming)
21/99 (major paper tears and auto gone)
63/99 (1 clr patch swapped out)
64/99 (botched trim job)
74/99 (trimmed)
87/99 (trimmed)

And 44/99 which we don't really know the full story on. This was the one where a second picture emerged with a different patch but no info.

[juandylan]

Can someone explain how Beckett assigns a grade to a signature? Whats wrong with the one on the card in question?

[Myerburg311]

Can someone explain how Beckett assigns a grade to a signature? Whats wrong with the one on the card in question?

ink goes lighter in a few areas.. looks like a finger touched the wet ink almost

[S2H904]

PMG Green being altered is one thing......even tho this is #1 and LBJ, I would pass. I would rather have a untouched copy that is graded a 6. Just my opinion.

[ninjacookies]

I refuse to purchase anything from Kenny's hands since finding out the Honus Wagner was never randomly inserted into their Blue Chip specials.

[JMarchand1981]

I refuse to purchase anything from Kenny's hands since finding out the Honus Wagner was never randomly inserted into their Blue Chip specials.

What is the story here?

[KhalDrogo]

I’m surprised to see so much of that collection getting listed at once.

[ninjacookies]

What is the story here?

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[bmf]

first one ever made... truly incredible!

[bmf]

bummer about the patch and alterations but first one ever made is still the first. it will go high.

[smalltown]

If i had the kind of money to spend on this i wouldn't waste my time on an altered copy. I'd bide my time and hold out for something untouched.

[celtxman]

As a collector I wouldn't want an altered card. As an investor #1 is important. I think it will be over $100,000 but not sure after that

[celtxman]

A few days left and it's at $67000

[Card Love]

- Altered
- All White Patch
- 1/99 which is a bonus serial number I guess

$125,000

[Card Love]

I’m surprised to see so much of that collection getting listed at once.

I think now that prices are at an all time high people are cashing in the $$$$$$$$$$$'s. I wonder what they originally paid for the card?

[bmf]

- Altered
- All White Patch
- 1/99 which is a bonus serial number I guess

$125,000

yes, it's altered with a boring patch, i agree. and not a great auto for that issue. but the serial numbering is crucial and super important to many high end 03-04 exquisite collectors. first # is the best number to get and it will always be the first ever lebron /99 rpa. if it goes high, it will be because of the numbering and the numbering alone. i'm watching this auction with popcorn in hand. tons of time left.

[ZappaFan]

I wouldn't touch this with OPP errr OPM. It's been altered, trimmed. It's dead to me. I wouldn't buy it for a buck. I bet if they could've changed the numbering to 23/99, they would've done that too. Greedy people have to RUIN a card.

[Card Love]

I wouldn't touch this with OPP errr OPM. It's been altered, trimmed. It's dead to me. I wouldn't buy it for a buck. I bet if they could've changed the numbering to 23/99, they would've done that too. Greedy people have to RUIN a card.

Yeah I agree. Altered does not interest me at all for any card for that matter. These unsavoury characters have to ruin things. I hope to god these lawsuits accomplish something. The amount of fraud has been unheard of and thats only the small fraction that we know about.

Interestingly enough the guys like Gary Vee to my knowledge never publicly acknowledge or discuss trimming so yes they are bringing in a whole new set of people into the hobby but only telling them HALF the story. Thats irresponsible if you ask me.

[KhalDrogo]

I wouldn't touch this with OPP errr OPM. It's been altered, trimmed. It's dead to me. I wouldn't buy it for a buck. I bet if they could've changed the numbering to 23/99, they would've done that too. Greedy people have to RUIN a card.
A true man of principle!

[Deadshot]

I wonder what evidence of trimming this card has. Surely it's not old pictures.

[celtxman]

$150,060

[kgoldin]

Shout out to the Auctioneer for presenting it in the Altered slab (instead of selling ungraded) and providing an accurate description
(is a comment like that allowed here? asking for an interested party :) )

[the mesiah]

Shout out to the Auctioneer for presenting it in the Altered slab (instead of selling ungraded) and providing an accurate description
(is a comment like that allowed here? asking for an interested party :) )

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[auburn35]

Shout out to the Auctioneer for presenting it in the Altered slab (instead of selling ungraded) and providing an accurate description
(is a comment like that allowed here? asking for an interested party :) )

Yes, you deserve credit for properly listing that altered Lebron Exquisite RPA and also helping to establish a "market value" for one of (sadly) many altered versions of this card.
Having the altered sale price is much better than the BS valuation letter that PWCC generated for another /99 card.

With that said, your company deserves a strike for accepting consignments from known card trimmers, like David Thorn of Small Traditions.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1345291

Here's some additional names that would be good to avoid accepting consignments.
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1304959

[kgoldin]

Jesus just read that
If someone sees a known trimmed card in an auction we are running that is not represented as such, please email me at ken@goldinauctions.com

We all have too much invested in this business to have it taken down or public confidence reduced as a result of that.

[UltimateDeron]

My goodness. What percentage of the 99 are altered? How pathetic.

[pejc300]

Why did that auto get an 8? Looks solid to me.

[pejc300]

Jesus just read that
If someone sees a known trimmed card in an auction we are running that is not represented as such, please email me at ken@goldinauctions.com

We all have too much invested in this business to have it taken down or public confidence reduced as a result of that.

Mr. Goldin, I mean this with all respect and in all seriousness. If you stick around these boards and actually follow through with removing all of the trimmed cards that will be uncovered in your auctions you will be a hero here. Every other “big” name in the hobby that has been found to be corrupt has run out of these boards with their tail between their legs from PWCC to SSI to buynicecards to Evan Mathis to Brian Gray (leaf). They are all cowards. Let’s see if you can change that.

[kgoldin]

Mr. Goldin, I mean this with all respect and in all seriousness. If you stick around these boards and actually follow through with removing all of the trimmed cards that will be uncovered in your auctions you will be a hero here. Every other “big” name in the hobby that has been found to be corrupt has run out of these boards with their tail between their legs from PWCC to SSI to buynicecards to Evan Mathis to Brian Gray (leaf). They are all cowards. Let’s see if you can change that.

Sounds reasonable

[hairyangryfella]

Shout out to the Auctioneer for presenting it in the Altered slab (instead of selling ungraded) and providing an accurate description
(is a comment like that allowed here? asking for an interested party :) )

Do you have some kind of pathological need to be praised for doing the morally appropriate thing..? Just like your response to me when you pulled the fake Kobe jersey you seem to demand a comment about you doing something any decent human would do. In fact, it's people doing work for YOU to prove what you're selling is bad yet YOU still need the validation? Jesus.

[mondogenerator]

wtf they talking about here
Encapsulated and assessed "Authentic/Altered" by BGS, with signature graded "8" by Beckett. (The "Authentic" evaluation was likely derived on the basis of trimming.)


the 'authentic' evaluation from the trimming..... no the 'altered' part is due to the trimming, the authentic just means its a proper release and is the card it is, the trimming altered it.

le sigh

[mondogenerator]

it'll be interesting to see what it goes for tho, altered and the absolute most boring patch ever - the 1/ will be an interesting multiplier.

id take a better jersey piece over the numbering besides maybe 23/ (with a white jers like this) any day

[JWBlue]

What is the alteration on this card?

[celtxman]

Jesus just read that
If someone sees a known trimmed card in an auction we are running that is not represented as such, please email me at ken@goldinauctions.com

We all have too much invested in this business to have it taken down or public confidence reduced as a result of that. I personally appreciate that you are getting involved here. To make things better for those of us who have legitimate cards that they want to buy and sell it is important to get to a place of less suspicion. Many on these boards have done a tremendous job in exposing frauds and we are grateful to those who have put in ridiculous hours as a service for all of us. We need people to be honest and involved on your end of the business, and for them to avoid temptation. I hope going forward that your auction house can be part of the solution

[ninjacookies]

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'Kenny, you there?'

[pokemaniac]

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'Kenny, you there?'

What are these, projected prices?

[ninjacookies]

What are these, projected prices?

Current as of 1997. Allegedly.

[kgoldin]

I personally appreciate that you are getting involved here. To make things better for those of us who have legitimate cards that they want to buy and sell it is important to get to a place of less suspicion. Many on these boards have done a tremendous job in exposing frauds and we are grateful to those who have put in ridiculous hours as a service for all of us. We need people to be honest and involved on your end of the business, and for them to avoid temptation. I hope going forward that your auction house can be part of the solution

thanks
glad to hear it. we get a lot of inquiries when we run an auction, and we look into 100% of the emails regarding any item, be it a card or a piece of memorabilia. we have no interest or financial need to sell a 'bad' item. Sometimes the reaction isnt as fast as people like, but we always manage to pull an item or edit a description as needed prior to the auction closing. same applies to the altering (and non disclosing) of cards. The forum did a tremendous service for the hobby. While on the subject, just because you dont see immediate action, doesnt mean the FBI is not working on it. I can tell you at last years national Brian Brusakis issued a subpoena to all the auction houses (including Goldin) regarding consignments and purchases by people they suspected were involved. (we had 0 consignments from those individuals) sometimes things take time. 2 + years ago i was asked to help in an autograph fraud case, it took time, and the matter recently reached a positive outcome.

[Deadshot]

Thanks for posting, Ken. That's very encouraging information.

[auburn35]

thanks
glad to hear it. we get a lot of inquiries when we run an auction, and we look into 100% of the emails regarding any item, be it a card or a piece of memorabilia. we have no interest or financial need to sell a 'bad' item. Sometimes the reaction isnt as fast as people like, but we always manage to pull an item or edit a description as needed prior to the auction closing. same applies to the altering (and non disclosing) of cards. The forum did a tremendous service for the hobby. While on the subject, just because you dont see immediate action, doesnt mean the FBI is not working on it. I can tell you at last years national Brian Brusakis issued a subpoena to all the auction houses (including Goldin) regarding consignments and purchases by people they suspected were involved. (we had 0 consignments from those individuals) sometimes things take time. 2 + years ago i was asked to help in an autograph fraud case, it took time, and the matter recently reached a positive outcome.

Thank you for sharing this and offering your contact info, should anyone have concerns to pass along.

It's going to take the support of Auction Houses and other industry leaders to ensure all the the efforts that BODA and others have put into uncovering the fraud and bad actors in the hobby doesn't go to waste.

[sethc1020]

IVxN5iQ_Ri0

TV Gold!!! Always a bunch of junk but man they sold the heck out it! I hated/loved watching those back then but for some reason I couldn't turn away. Im sure anyone that ever fell for that and actually bought something felt really stupid when it arrived. Some of the best salesmen I've seen.

[pcptrade]

Not sure if this has already been discussed. 2003 Exquisite RPA #02/99 BGS 9.5 sold for 1.08 Million on Aug 24th at Goldin Auctions.

https://goldinauctions.com/2003_04_UD__Exquisite_Collection__Rookie_Patch_Aut-LOT60434.aspx

[armoursave]

Keyword here is authentic.

[bmf]

Not sure if this has already been discussed. 2003 Exquisite RPA #02/99 BGS 9.5 sold for 1.08 Million on Aug 24th at Goldin Auctions.

https://goldinauctions.com/2003_04_UD__Exquisite_Collection__Rookie_Patch_Aut-LOT60434.aspx

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1405578

[pcptrade]

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1405578

Thanks:)