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Vol cards
05-14-2020, 03:08 PM
Avoid buying directly from COMC at all costs. At checkout, you will get a delivery date of a few days. They will process your order and you will get a delivery date of 3 months from now. Oh, but you can pay extra and they will get it to you in a month.

Meanwhile, if you buy the same exact item from their Ebay listing, they send it in approx 2 days.

Shady shady shady.


Avoid comc

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luke1014
05-14-2020, 03:11 PM
The eBay listing costs more than it does Comc though. I guess that could be worth it if you really want it.

SlickRick
05-14-2020, 03:13 PM
The point is that they could easily ship in two days but try to milk you for more.

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bradical
05-14-2020, 03:18 PM
It's pretty simple, they couldn't compete with eBay, so they had to adapt their business model to work with eBay. Once they did that, they had to adhere to eBay's sellers requirements for shipping and handling time. So, they are focusing their (presumably) limited staff on eBay as it's their prioritization now. I believe they can make more money from their consignment services than they can from their traditional business model. This is proving that theory.

Spacemanspif
05-14-2020, 03:41 PM
It's pretty simple, they couldn't compete with eBay, so they had to adapt their business model to work with eBay. Once they did that, they had to adhere to eBay's sellers requirements for shipping and handling time. So, they are focusing their (presumably) limited staff on eBay as it's their prioritization now. I believe they can make more money from their consignment services than they can from their traditional business model. This is proving that theory.

Agree. Prioritization & "Shady business practice" are very different things. They could give a crap about your extra couple of dollars, it's like saying the USPS is shady for not delivering PWE's in the same amount of time as Priority Express. It's different pricing for different products.

asujbl
05-14-2020, 03:43 PM
What does this have to do with COVID?

Vol cards
05-14-2020, 03:48 PM
What does this have to do with COVID?They are claiming they can't ship the item ordered directly on comc.com because of covid.

I literally cross-referenced every item with Ebay listings prior to purchasing. Would have shipped in 2 days if bought off Ebay instead of direct.

They are using the current situation in order to fleece customers. Changed shipping time after payment received.

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asujbl
05-14-2020, 03:50 PM
They are claiming they can't ship the item ordered directly on comc.com because of covid.

I literally cross-referenced every item with Ebay listings prior to purchasing. Would have shipped in 2 days if bought off Ebay instead of direct.

They are using the current situation in order to fleece customers. Changed shipping time after payment received.

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Sure sounds like they've been doing this for a while though? Or is this new? I've never bought from them direct. Only on eBay.

mc1
05-14-2020, 03:50 PM
I just went to request a shipment and it shows Aug 20 as the earliest. Economy. You can pay more for other options.

No promise of a faster date BEFORE paying.

tlm7995
05-14-2020, 03:52 PM
so glad you pointed this out. I've been waiting for my shipment the last couple weeks(ish) and just checked my shipment history...turns out, it isn't actually shipping until August. Dang

boston12
05-14-2020, 03:53 PM
That’s pathetic. Hope they go out of business

mjohnatgt
05-14-2020, 03:58 PM
Geesh; it's like no one is even talking about this in the blowout forum already dedicated to bashing COMC... or do you guys not read that one? The state of Washington is still on lockdown orders from the government and COMC has to work with a minimal staff. Yes, they are prioritizing eBay orders because they have contracts with eBay. So much whining.

tlm7995
05-14-2020, 04:00 PM
Geesh; it's like no one is even talking about this in the blowout forum already dedicated to bashing COMC... or do you guys not read that one? The state of Washington is still on lockdown orders from the government and COMC has to work with a minimal staff. Yes, they are prioritizing eBay orders because they have contracts with eBay. So much whining.

but i want my cards :coffee:

mc1
05-14-2020, 04:02 PM
Geesh; it's like no one is even talking about this in the blowout forum already dedicated to bashing COMC... or do you guys not read that one? The state of Washington is still on lockdown orders from the government and COMC has to work with a minimal staff. Yes, they are prioritizing eBay orders because they have contracts with eBay. So much whining.

You sure? I thought if my local and state governments were open then EVERY other place must be open too.

KhalDrogo
05-14-2020, 04:04 PM
COMC business model isn’t viable. This isn’t a Covid issue. They could not fulfill their commitments prior to mid-March. It’s well documented in the COMC thread. Not sure why people keep using them.

codered
05-14-2020, 04:06 PM
Avoid buying directly from COMC at all costs. At checkout, you will get a delivery date of a few days. They will process your order and you will get a delivery date of 3 months from now. Oh, but you can pay extra and they will get it to you in a month.

Meanwhile, if you buy the same exact item from their Ebay listing, they send it in approx 2 days.

Shady shady shady.


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How exactly are they profiting by this? They are still shipping your card albeit at a later date. They aren’t profiting from Covid, you’re paying the same price for standard shipping you’re just getting your cards shipped at a later date then precovid. You aren’t forced to pay more for shipping. You realize the world is in the middle of a pandemic right? They are just cards

Edit: I will say COMC is far from perfect but for international (Canadians included) collectors buying and selling mid to low value cards it’s probably the most useful online tool

Vol cards
05-14-2020, 04:29 PM
I just went to request a shipment and it shows Aug 20 as the earliest. Economy. You can pay more for other options.

No promise of a faster date BEFORE paying.That's because they have now changed it. Here is what I show currently https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200514/b815b0472b6eccbdb0f96acf3e46a6a8.jpg

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Vol cards
05-14-2020, 04:33 PM
How exactly are they profiting by this? They are still shipping your card albeit at a later date. They aren’t profiting from Covid, you’re paying the same price for standard shipping you’re just getting your cards shipped at a later date then precovid. You aren’t forced to pay more for shipping. You realize the world is in the middle of a pandemic right? They are just cards

Edit: I will say COMC is far from perfect but for international (Canadians included) collectors buying and selling mid to low value cards it’s probably the most useful online toolBecause they will tell you for $60 more, they will ship your order by June 6, when you inquire about it

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Vol cards
05-14-2020, 04:34 PM
I just went to request a shipment and it shows Aug 20 as the earliest. Economy. You can pay more for other options.

No promise of a faster date BEFORE paying.And the order I placed stated shipping in 5-9 days.....has since been changed at checkout as documented

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Pippenfan
05-14-2020, 04:36 PM
I paid an extra $15 bucks to get it two and a half months early. The horror...

alias21
05-14-2020, 04:46 PM
Because they will tell you for $60 more, they will ship your order by June 6, when you inquire about it

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Yeah I wouldn’t pay $60 for shipping and you shouldn’t either. But businesses in Washington have been forced to shut down. They can only do so much. Use your fn head.

bradical
05-14-2020, 04:48 PM
I had some items shipped two weeks ago and it told me everything was delayed then. The time tables seem to be quicker now then they were two weeks ago.

Economy Rushed was 5 weeks out back then, now it appears to be 4 weeks.

PS: You do realize prices are WAY cheaper as a member vs guest, right?

Vol cards
05-14-2020, 05:04 PM
I had some items shipped two weeks ago and it told me everything was delayed then. The time tables seem to be quicker now then they were two weeks ago.

Economy Rushed was 5 weeks out back then, now it appears to be 4 weeks.

PS: You do realize prices are WAY cheaper as a member vs guest, right?If u consider Ebay fees WAY cheaper, then yeah they are WAY cheaper

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bradical
05-14-2020, 05:12 PM
If u consider Ebay fees WAY cheaper, then yeah they are WAY cheaper

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Eh?

No, I mean if you are logged in on the site while shopping, the prices are cheaper than shopping as a guest.

Onepocketj
05-14-2020, 05:22 PM
I had all my cards shipped last week. Regular shipping was set for August. It cost me $3 more to have it shipped within 2 weeks. $3... waaaaahhh

bradical
05-14-2020, 05:25 PM
Eh?

No, I mean if you are logged in on the site while shopping, the prices are cheaper than shopping as a guest.

Example:

2003-04 SP Signature Edition Jordan Gold Auto on eBay is $15,320
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-04-SP-Signature-Edition-Gold-50-Michael-Jordan-AS-MJ-BGS-9-Auto-HOF/233247716701?hash=item364ea5b55d:m:mum47sp7xS0_mUflvrZCETw

On COMC as Guest is $15,320.00

On COMC as member is $13,900

RogerGodahell
05-14-2020, 05:28 PM
I'm not surprised at all. Businesses are always looking for ways to increase profits.

I would choose PSA over BGS if I were grading some cards purely on the fact that PSA resale value is better. But....I don't agree with a lot of their business practices. Why do I have to pay more to have a card graded if its worth more than another card? If it were a small fee it wouldn't be such a big dieal but sometimes it can be hundreds or thousands of dollars more per card. It's the same process. They're making out like a bandit with this process but people keep on using them myself included. This has nothing to do with COMC besides it's comparable in a way they both use sly tactics to make more revenue.

Noah
05-14-2020, 05:39 PM
I’ve been wanting to ship 202 cards for sometime, ridiculous quotes for all services

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ninjacookies
05-14-2020, 05:55 PM
covid af, cuh.

Vol cards
05-14-2020, 06:17 PM
Example:



2003-04 SP Signature Edition Jordan Gold Auto on eBay is $15,320

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-04-SP-Signature-Edition-Gold-50-Michael-Jordan-AS-MJ-BGS-9-Auto-HOF/233247716701?hash=item364ea5b55d:m:mum47sp7xS0_mUflvrZCETw



On COMC as Guest is $15,320.00



On COMC as member is $13,900Correct. U don't pay the Ebay fees, they pass that to the Ebay users.

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lietuvalabas
05-14-2020, 06:20 PM
Correct. U don't pay the Ebay fees, they pass that to the Ebay users.

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right, so thats what hes saying, become a member and with all the saving you do on the site, it'll afford you a bit more to splurge on better shipping.

I love comc but ill totally admit, they aren't perfect, ive had a few complaints about them over the years, but by and large they are a great service as a seller, and the buying it goes right in your port. suppose you get a "steal" you're not sweating if the seller will ship or not, or undercutters, its yours boom.

scotthenrichs
05-14-2020, 06:42 PM
I had all my cards sit in my account for a year and will ship after the virus. Really not a big deal, I can see them in my account just as easily as in my binders. Heck, I even had a couple hot Jordan’s and Lebrons I was going to send home months ago I decided to flip instead cause prices were so insane. Saved me shipping money. Love comc.

Digitaljordan
05-14-2020, 06:45 PM
They charge for top loaders. That alone makes them an easy pass.

Harper
05-14-2020, 07:39 PM
Comc still working just great for me

salthill
05-14-2020, 07:39 PM
Avoid buying directly from COMC at all costs. At checkout, you will get a delivery date of a few days. They will process your order and you will get a delivery date of 3 months from now. Oh, but you can pay extra and they will get it to you in a month.
Meanwhile, if you buy the same exact item from their Ebay listing, they send it in approx 2 days.
Shady shady shady.
Avoid comc

It’s almost as if something happened to the “supply” side of “supply and demand”...

Spacemanspif
05-14-2020, 07:46 PM
Anyone figure out who this troll account belongs to yet? It’s pretty similar to another low post count troll I’ve seen, so I assume it’s just someone logging on an alt account when they want to spout a bunch of inflammatory nonsense

YeahBuddy
05-14-2020, 07:53 PM
They charge for top loaders. That alone makes them an easy pass.

I had my first thing shipped from COMC , i didnt pay for a top loader yet they shipped it in a top loader and even put in another to provide more sturdiness.

Also it quoted me some far out ship date, but I paid the $5 and got it in less than 2 weeks.

:cool:

Vol cards
05-14-2020, 08:06 PM
Anyone figure out who this troll account belongs to yet? It’s pretty similar to another low post count troll I’ve seen, so I assume it’s just someone logging on an alt account when they want to spout a bunch of inflammatory nonsenseXoxo

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Vol cards
05-14-2020, 08:08 PM
I've had no problems whatsoever with COMC on Ebay with regards to shipping. Ships quick and packed great. This is a word of caution for those ordering and attempting to actually receive the cards to send for grading, "troll"

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luke1014
05-14-2020, 11:19 PM
COMC business model isn’t viable. This isn’t a Covid issue. They could not fulfill their commitments prior to mid-March. It’s well documented in the COMC thread. Not sure why people keep using them.When building a PC, there's 4 sites on the internet to buy singles from and this is the 2nd best one.

salthill
05-14-2020, 11:55 PM
When building a PC, there's 4 sites on the internet to buy singles from and this is the 2nd best one.
eBay, comc, sportlots, cardbarrel? (In no particular order)

luke1014
05-15-2020, 12:13 AM
eBay, comc, sportlots, cardbarrel? (In no particular order)I was thinking eBay, Comc, Beckett, sportlots

agentD5
05-15-2020, 12:31 AM
I requested a shipment of 88 cards with economy method on 3/24, the estimated shipping date was 4/24, and now I am still waiting to get my stuff shipped...

Archangel1775
05-15-2020, 02:36 AM
I requested a shipment of 88 cards with economy method on 3/24, the estimated shipping date was 4/24, and now I am still waiting to get my stuff shipped...

You should've paid the $152.57 priority shipping. Guaranteed within 30 days. :)

ClipsandVols
05-15-2020, 07:15 AM
They charge for top loaders. That alone makes them an easy pass.

LMAO

Do you realize how much space over 10million+ toploaders would take up?

Do you realize how long it would take for an employee to topload every single card that gets shipped out?

They charge submitters a fee if cards are in toploaders for good reason. Think about all the nasty toploaders you see at card shows. Imagine the fees COMC would be charging sellers/buyers if they had to take every single card out of a toploader upon arrival and then turn around and put it in a new one.

If TOPLOADERS are the breaking point for you, COMC definitely isn't for you.

mjohnatgt
05-15-2020, 08:07 AM
I let that post go figuring the guy left off the smiley face accidentally. What's interesting is they charge the same toploader fee for a standard width one and for an extra thick one. So you can probably make the added costs back by reselling the wide toploaders.

374cardshop
05-15-2020, 10:34 AM
Not 100% sure if shady is the proper term but I could certainly agree with the term used before of prioritization. It also is 100% right to be angry or frustrated with that prioritization with or without a pandemic going on. It's okay to be sympathetic to business struggles but if said business is still focused on their eBay division it's bound to cause anger. COMC will be the ones taking the hit in the long run because less people will feel confident buying or better yet sending them their card inventory. I have hundreds of cards I want to ship out but it will cost probably around $90 and I might get them in August. I will have to think twice before consigning or purchasing in the future.

shrevecity
05-15-2020, 10:40 AM
The homers will continue to sing praise and deny the FACTS comc has been failing its sellers well before this issue.

salthill
05-15-2020, 12:00 PM
The homers will continue to sing praise and deny the FACTS comc has been failing its sellers well before this issue.


They’re not a sports team. It’s ok to like some of what they do and still have an issue with other aspects of their business.

Budler
05-15-2020, 12:34 PM
When building a PC, there's 4 sites on the internet to buy singles from and this is the 2nd best one.


Each to their own.
As for me and what I collect there is more then 4. When sites have only a small number of cards that I need . I have to expand my search.
I have issues with all of the sites I deal with but still use them.

Comc, sportlots, and Becket has been my main ones eBay gets some and other trading site have been good until I run the members out of cards. I have looked into cardbarrel and others but no purchased as they do not match with what I collect very well.

Hollywood42
05-15-2020, 01:07 PM
This

I historically don't venture into this sestion much, but I've been shocked at how much hate COMC seems to have gotten over the past few months, even unrelated to COVID stuff. They have their problems, but it feels like hating on COMC is just becoming the thing to do lately

Geesh; it's like no one is even talking about this in the blowout forum already dedicated to bashing COMC... or do you guys not read that one? The state of Washington is still on lockdown orders from the government and COMC has to work with a minimal staff. Yes, they are prioritizing eBay orders because they have contracts with eBay. So much whining.

It's pretty simple, they couldn't compete with eBay, so they had to adapt their business model to work with eBay. Once they did that, they had to adhere to eBay's sellers requirements for shipping and handling time. So, they are focusing their (presumably) limited staff on eBay as it's their prioritization now. I believe they can make more money from their consignment services than they can from their traditional business model. This is proving that theory.

shrevecity
05-15-2020, 01:28 PM
They’re not a sports team. It’s ok to like some of what they do and still have an issue with other aspects of their business.

They can do nothing wrong according to some here. Even when the person with the an average IQ can see the issues. Does not take much to see they have MAJOR issues that go back way before anything.

salthill
05-15-2020, 01:40 PM
They can do nothing wrong according to some here. Even when the person with the an average IQ can see the issues. Does not take much to see they have MAJOR issues that go back way before anything.
Do you build your own strawmen or buy them in a store?
I don’t see people claiming they can do no wrong.

shrevecity
05-15-2020, 01:46 PM
Do you build your own strawmen or buy them in a store?
I don’t see people claiming they can do no wrong.

There are a few here who excuse everything due to the virus. The issues were going on well before any of this happens. How can you blame stuff that happened in September on things that happened in February? It goes back years though truthfully. They would have gone a long time ago if they had not intergrated with Ebay. now all that has done is buy them time.

pfb11
05-15-2020, 02:24 PM
The eBay listing costs more than it does Comc though. I guess that could be worth it if you really want it.
I think people are doing this regularly now. I've been selling far less this month to users of the site and lots of cards to eBay where I think "I can't believe somebody bought that on eBay."

If enough ppl keep doing this, they'll fall way behind in shipping ebay orders, too.

pfb11
05-15-2020, 02:28 PM
but i want my cards :coffee:
Hopefully sarcasm if that's your biggest worry right now
You sure? I thought if my local and state governments were open then EVERY other place must be open too.
Again, hopefully sarcasm and not just life under a rock

Dragonman
05-15-2020, 03:53 PM
They can do nothing wrong according to some here. Even when the person with the an average IQ can see the issues. Does not take much to see they have MAJOR issues that go back way before anything.

Kinda like you do with Fleecebay

checkoutmydeals
05-15-2020, 04:07 PM
I bought something off eBay once, but it arrived in a plain white envelope. At least, I think it was my eBay item. The seller didn't include a packing slip so I could never be sure.

shrevecity
05-15-2020, 04:13 PM
Kinda like you do with Fleecebay

And your point? Without Ebay there would be no COMC today. That is a fact.

checkoutmydeals
05-15-2020, 04:18 PM
And your point? Without Ebay there would be no COMC today. That is a fact.

So it's possible to use a website to your overall benefit even if you don't agree with every policy decision they've ever made and if the service could sometimes be improved? (Asking for a friend).

shrevecity
05-15-2020, 04:26 PM
And your point? Without Ebay there would be no COMC today. That is a fact.

So it's possible to use a website to your overall benefit even if you don't agree with every policy decision they've ever made and if the service could sometimes be improved? (Asking for a friend).


It is possible, but there are some who do not question anything COMC does. And if you think I support Ebay like that you should see some of the sellers on Facebook.

However COMC has major issues and has had them well before this issue. COMC was headed down a bad path when they got in with Ebay had it not been for that they would have been gone long ago. That agreement gave them a larger outside cash flow. Their business plan prior to that was one of just moving numbers around it really was not a steady cashflow. It was doomed to fail eventually. It still may eventually fail, but it is boosted by Ebay. However if Ebay were to pull the plug on them for some reason where will they be?

I have a few cards left on COMC have not looked at the site in a week don't really care to. I told Tim in an Email a few weeks back where he could stick those cards in my last submission. 2 days later the sub was finished so I am sure he got that message.

Dragonman
05-15-2020, 04:29 PM
And your point? Without Ebay there would be no COMC today. That is a fact.

I would appreciate if you would refer to Ebay as Fleecebay from now on.

shrevecity
05-15-2020, 04:46 PM
I would appreciate if you would refer to Ebay as Fleecebay from now on.

Seems COMC is the one doing all the fleecing. At least for lower end stuff which has always been their bread and butter.

There is another name I could come up with for COMC but the button pushers would have a heyday.

checkoutmydeals
05-15-2020, 04:59 PM
It is possible, but there are some who do not question anything COMC does.

I'm not sure which people you are referring to. But if such people do exist, I am personally fine with different people having different opinions.

mc1
05-15-2020, 06:05 PM
Seems COMC is the one doing all the fleecing. At least for lower end stuff which has always been their bread and butter.

There is another name I could come up with for COMC but the button pushers would have a heyday.

Money over everything. Im sure you run your business with one intent, making money. Youre not a charity. You call it fleecing, I call it making money.

They could use some better customer service, thats most businesses. For sure.

shrevecity
05-15-2020, 06:46 PM
Money over everything. Im sure you run your business with one intent, making money. Youre not a charity. You call it fleecing, I call it making money.

They could use some better customer service, thats most businesses. For sure.

I was not complaining just responding to the old whine about feebay or whatever. I agree with you. Buyers pay the fees if you do things right. Everyone is greedy in some form. Those who complain about fees are being greedy in thinking the venue is not entitled to their cut you agreed to when you list. I was pointing out comc fee structure is not much different especially on sub 5.00 items.

374cardshop
05-15-2020, 07:27 PM
There are a few here who excuse everything due to the virus. The issues were going on well before any of this happens. How can you blame stuff that happened in September on things that happened in February? It goes back years though truthfully. They would have gone a long time ago if they had not integrated with Ebay. now all that has done is buy them time.


I agree with you on this one. I have had a few issues with them that I have documented prior to COVID-19. One being a card that took them 3 months to respond to that someone reported as "trimmed" that I bought on the site. I sent several emails and finally after months a random person replied. (The system locked me from the card essentially). Secondly a shipment prior to COVID-19 closures took more than double the service level stated to even be shipped out. < This was well before any state closures. I also would love for COMC buyers to change their settings to "Advanced Reseller Mode" then you actually can see how quickly your shipping charges add up that aren't built into the sale price. I agree with those who say you can like something and dislike certain things but there is a lot to be desired with COMC as of late.

374cardshop
05-15-2020, 07:28 PM
I bought something off eBay once, but it arrived in a plain white envelope. At least, I think it was my eBay item. The seller didn't include a packing slip so I could never be sure.


Only one item since 1998 ;)

jcmel323
05-15-2020, 07:46 PM
I requested shipment of 110 cards with economy april 14 and the estimated ship date is august 1.... This is crazy

bmadcards
05-16-2020, 07:22 AM
Shrevecity. How are you getting your emails answered ?

salthill
05-16-2020, 01:30 PM
Tune in for a great discussion on the State of the Hobby, and everything COMC with the man behind the company. Tonight at 10pm eastern, 7pm pacific.
Link to Channel:https://www.youtube.com/c/sportscardslive
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13goyankees13
05-16-2020, 03:23 PM
I think I'm done submitting to them and will only continue buying until my credit runs out.

They got a bunch of submissions right before things shut down and then after people already sent in their cards decided that they weren't going to give a discount for missing the deadline. They've already missed some deadlines by months and it doesn't seem like they're going to process the cards any time soon.

They claim it's because of coronavirus which likely has some truth to it but somehow they're able to keep processing submissions if you send more money.

I've had issues with COMC for a while but the past few months have showed how little they care about their customers. They have limited capacity but instead of just slowly working on the backlog, they ignore the backlog, refuse to provide promised discounts, and continue acting as if things are normal as long as you give them enough money.