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kcroyalsfan8515
05-21-2020, 09:30 AM
If u get a Duncan rookie from 97,or Kobe or MJ from 96 that isn't greened yet..... Will it eventually green anyway? I know no one can know for sure but im seeing collectors thoughts

Deadshot
05-21-2020, 09:35 AM
I think they will all green.

kcroyalsfan8515
05-21-2020, 09:42 AM
I mean its terrible how much it takes away from the card. Otherwise perfect card that is green is just awful to look at

MIRRABB
05-21-2020, 09:45 AM
The first two years yes, after that, no

Jpayne7787
05-21-2020, 10:35 AM
The first two years yes, after that, no

Actually I see some 2002 chrome that is greening as random as that is

rookiepatchauto
05-21-2020, 11:08 AM
The first two years yes, after that, no

Do you mean 1996 and 1997 cards will eventually green? Or do you mean any 1996-97 cards that aren't green now will never green?

yaoming
05-21-2020, 11:09 AM
I havent seen any 2002 chrome greening
I believe 1998 and up are safe
Some 1997-98 arent green at all


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rookiepatchauto
05-21-2020, 11:09 AM
What causes the greening and why is it limited to 90s chrome cards? I don't own any basketball Topps Chrome (wish I did!), but I do own post-2010 football and baseball chrome.

mc1
05-21-2020, 11:58 AM
Heres a thread on the subject.


https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1182558

blinkme323
05-21-2020, 12:35 PM
What causes the greening and why is it limited to 90s chrome cards? I don't own any basketball Topps Chrome (wish I did!), but I do own post-2010 football and baseball chrome.

Finest from that area also has the same greening. Speculation is that it is from the metallic content in the cards oxidizing.

rookiepatchauto
05-21-2020, 01:09 PM
Finest from that area also has the same greening. Speculation is that it is from the metallic content in the cards oxidizing.

Good grief! Kobe's Finest has been on my wish list. I wonder if you'll see prices on Topps Chrome and Finest drop if greening becomes a hobby pandemic.

I could live with the possibility of greening if I picked up 1996 Finest at mid-2019 prices. Between trimming, greening, shill bids, and fake sales, I definitely can't stomach paying four figures for either card now.

Thanks for this info!

whoaitsg33
05-21-2020, 01:12 PM
not all


https://i.postimg.cc/R0qWhb2z/60-D13848-EB4-B-43-DC-910-B-DFC170-F7-C1-A8.jpg

whoaitsg33
05-21-2020, 01:13 PM
same with finest, some retained it’s color

https://i.postimg.cc/YSmtJcJj/8-CCA43-D2-E824-4-E6-D-B562-519-D8-AD6519-C.jpg

vincecarder
05-21-2020, 01:18 PM
Over time all sorts of shiny cards will change color, warp etc especially with sunlight exposure.

Majority of the on the card chrome autos will more than likely fade/vanish, I had few old buyback autos where the sig is gone even with proper storage.

mc1
05-21-2020, 01:21 PM
Over time all sorts of shiny cards will change color, warp etc especially with sunlight exposure.

Majority of the on the card chrome autos will more than likely fade/vanish, I had few old buyback autos where the sig is gone even with proper storage.

Many or most on-card autos will fade. I was looking at some Kobe autos from the 90s the other day and it seemed that over half of them were faded, ugly.

Also, the two cards posted above dont show greening, yet.

rookiepatchauto
05-21-2020, 02:45 PM
Many or most on-card autos will fade. I was looking at some Kobe autos from the 90s the other day and it seemed that over half of them were faded, ugly.

Also, the two cards posted above dont show greening, yet.

Personally, I can live with cards and on-card autos fading. Oxidation leading to greening is a whole different ballgame for me, since it really takes away from the natural beauty of the card. I guess it's just a matter of what you're willing to tolerate.

Like I'm fine with cards being off-centered and having bad edges (almost prefer the latter), but hate cards with bad corners and surface scratches (which I tend to associate with poor direct handling either by the collector or the manufacturer). I imagine most collectors are the opposite.

ychui1
05-21-2020, 05:47 PM
Been looking thru stuff that I had in storage lately because of the pandemic. Found these two beauties, just wish these had not greened.

https://i.imgur.com/hNARJql.jpg

Tommy1380
05-21-2020, 06:38 PM
not all


https://i.postimg.cc/R0qWhb2z/60-D13848-EB4-B-43-DC-910-B-DFC170-F7-C1-A8.jpg

That scan is at least 2 years old, so I'd be curious to see if it's started greening any since then. What a beautiful card.

Wings
05-21-2020, 07:21 PM
I bought this awhile ago and it is holding up pretty well!

https://i.ibb.co/QDrTYtP/filename-1-3.jpg (https://ibb.co/KKFfVS2)

jnmcards
05-21-2020, 10:16 PM
I've owned some that have greened and others that haven't... no rhyme or reason really.

It's frustrating though for sure, because I love these sets. A real dilemma when it comes to some of the bigger stuff.

mondogenerator
05-21-2020, 11:03 PM
hard to say 'all' but most, yes.

imbluestreak23
05-21-2020, 11:09 PM
What causes the greening and why is it limited to 90s chrome cards? I don't own any basketball Topps Chrome (wish I did!), but I do own post-2010 football and baseball chrome.

Oxidation.

I actually stumbled across an opened box of 1997/98 Topps Chrome basketball when I was a kid in addition to a 1996/97 Topps Chrome Kobe BGS 9 that we graded in 1999.

Every card from the 1996/97 basketball pack was inserted back into the pack and has been in a closed box outside of the light for 23 years. Every card is green

The Kobe was graded and essentially "sealed" from being exposed to air. It is not green.

Meant to take a video, will do so next time I get to it.

mondogenerator
05-21-2020, 11:09 PM
my topps stars jordan ref is holding up nicely

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48231174202_7d2d2609b7.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gu2nK1)

this is holding up too

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48230904657_72935735d2_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gtZZBF)

vince is fine

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48483844431_8d32df6e30.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gSmnNg)

mc1
05-21-2020, 11:17 PM
That Jordan is starting to green. :(

Dont think Ive ever seen a green base chrome card from 98-99 or on.

blinkme323
05-21-2020, 11:38 PM
Has anyone had a card green after they slabbed it? Just curious.

TMILL
05-22-2020, 12:03 AM
Has anyone had a card green after they slabbed it? Just curious.

Yes, they do.
96-97 Bowman's Best Picks Atomic Ref Marbury in a PSA slab since the mid 2000s. Looked at it in late 2018, it's green.

I believe all of them will green, just a matter of time. Enzymes and catalytic reactions.

Some conditions allow it to occur faster than others is all.

kobebeast2020
09-07-2020, 09:10 AM
I just bought a box (4 cases) of 1997 chrome. Decided to open 2. I would say half of the cards were green. Mostly from sticking to each other.

oldschooled
09-08-2020, 01:57 AM
This was dicussed a bunch of times already. 1998-1999 Chromes and above are the ones who will not green. Prizm should be the case also (hoping) with 1998 Chromes and above.

fabiani12333
09-08-2020, 05:03 AM
I own two 1996 Topps Chrome refractor PSA 10 football cards and neither have greened. I also own two BGS 9.5 1996 Bowman Best basketball atomic refractors and neither have greened.

Hellcat
09-08-2020, 07:21 AM
I have a Kobe chrome rookie refractor and 2 regular chromes only the one base chrome has greened. Big premiums for the ones that haven’t greened. You look at them side by side it’s not pretty. Ha ha

kobebeast2020
09-09-2020, 08:04 PM
Any idea if PSA will give you lower grades if a card has green ?

Jasondr91
09-09-2020, 08:26 PM
Waxmuseum Podcast had one of the Topps creators on. He placed the many theories to bed....it's not oxidation. The chromium patented technology was perfected over time. That's why the latter years of Finest and Chrome won't green.

kobebeast2020
09-09-2020, 08:31 PM
Waxmuseum Podcast had one of the Topps creators on. He placed the many theories to bed....it's not oxidation. The chromium patented technology was perfected over time. That's why the latter years of Finest and Chrome won't green.

I just opened 4 boxes of 97 Chrome and I would say 50% of the cards have greened I noticed that they greened mostly in spots where they stuck together.

Jasondr91
09-09-2020, 09:06 PM
I just opened 4 boxes of 97 Chrome and I would say 50% of the cards have greened I noticed that they greened mostly in spots where they stuck together.

I cracked a sealed 93/94 Finest box about a year and a half ago. Mine was worse....everything was hulked and green. :(

nrm1977
09-10-2020, 07:00 AM
If u get a Duncan rookie from 97,or Kobe or MJ from 96 that isn't greened yet..... Will it eventually green anyway? I know no one can know for sure but im seeing collectors thoughts

I find it so odd some of my chrome cards from those years look perfect and some look like the Incredible Hulk. I’d think if they have not Turned green by now they won’t discolor

6celtics33
09-10-2020, 07:03 AM
I find it so odd some of my chrome cards from those years look perfect and some look like the Incredible Hulk. I’d think if they have not Turned green by now they won’t discolor

I’m wondering that too. I have a Jordan that’s really nice and it worries me about keeping it.