Is Bradley Beal currently the most undervalued player in the basketball card market! [Archive]

jzx1103

07-11-2020, 06:27 PM

So I haven't been following sports cards in general for years. Recently started pay attention again and noticed some of the Ebay prices are crazy. However I noticed one guy that's been a monster in the league while his card prices being low is Bradley Beal. I know he plays for a team that no one cares about, but still what gives???

cboog3105

07-11-2020, 06:30 PM

but there's no demand/value in him so how is he undervalued?

empty stats in losses doesn't get the bidders going

drobfan8

07-11-2020, 06:31 PM

Dude can ball.

I would say Harden also as he has done a lot more and I'm seeing some key cards of his sell for $70-$100.

Beal is great, but is he gonna do anything in DC or is he gonna go elsewhere and win?

A lot of question marks. He could be the Joe Johnson of this era. Still needs to do more to be that guy.

Looking4Luka

07-11-2020, 06:32 PM

Shhhhhh... Don't make this thread. You should go and buy all the undervalued stuff on eBay. *whispering*

thenwhatjk

07-11-2020, 06:35 PM

Bro all players are tied for most undervalued player bro

brothertona

07-11-2020, 06:38 PM

He'll go somewhere else and win. I think it's pretty much a guarantee he gets traded. They can't trade Wall, and they are in cap purgatory so that's their only hope to finding some space or getting some more talent.

whoaitsg33

07-11-2020, 06:49 PM

if rumors of beal ending up in brooklyn is true, i'd say it's an ok investment. he can score but not sure if he deserves more recognition.

i see a ray allen comparison but jay shuttlesworth was a better player and a champion.

ovrcollect

07-11-2020, 06:52 PM

At this point, I don't feel like any player in undervalued.

bberns

07-11-2020, 06:54 PM

He is an occasional all star that doesn't sniff the All-NBA squads. Literally no long term value there.

KhalDrogo

07-11-2020, 07:00 PM

if rumors of beal ending up in brooklyn is true, i'd say it's an ok investment.
That would be terrible. Third fiddle behind one of the greatest scorers of all time and a true psychopath?

kingofsnake

07-11-2020, 07:02 PM

His prices are not all that cheap. Seems fair for a good scorer without huge team success.

ninjacookies

07-11-2020, 07:03 PM

Beal is essentially Devin Booker with a 5 year stunted growth curve.

If Melo cards are virtually worthless, I'm not exactly seeing the major upside with Beal. If he would have had his breakout year in 2015-2016, things would have been a lot different. Age is everything in prospecting.

Jmsiak13

07-11-2020, 07:04 PM

Underloved no...under appreciated yes

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Jmsiak13

07-11-2020, 07:05 PM

That would be terrible. Third fiddle behind one of the greatest scorers of all time and a true psychopath?Which one is which [emoji23]

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whoaitsg33

07-11-2020, 07:07 PM

That would be terrible. Third fiddle behind one of the greatest scorers of all time and a true psychopath?

kd gonna elevate beal, but it's slightly better than being in hell known as the washington wizards.

bmf

07-11-2020, 08:29 PM

Beal would not be on my top 20 list. Overall, most undervalued all-time is Duncan by far. For current players, it’s Kyrie.

Braswell10

07-11-2020, 08:30 PM

but there's no demand/value in him so how is he undervalued?

empty stats in losses doesn't get the bidders going

Trae Young????

ninjacookies

07-11-2020, 08:42 PM

>age
>prospecting
>tfw 21 year old Trae put up better offensive numbers than 26 year old Beal

Braswell10

07-11-2020, 08:55 PM

>age
>prospecting
>tfw 21 year old Trae put up better offensive numbers than 26 year old Beal

Yes, but he is also on the worst team in the league. That’s the definition of empty stats. And 26 is not old, if that’s what you are implying.

I’m simply responding to the idea of pointless stats = no value.

brothertona

07-11-2020, 09:01 PM

I mean he isn't on the worst team in the league, he's on the 4th worst team in the league and he played without the 2nd best player on the team for most of the year with all of the defensive pressure on him and still had 30 + 9. I don't think Beal gets traded to the Nets, I think he likely gets traded to the Hawks.

jzx1103

07-11-2020, 09:05 PM

>age
>prospecting
>tfw 21 year old Trae put up better offensive numbers than 26 year old Beal

Trae Young Rc's are also on average about 3x to 5x the price. So there's that. I brought up Beal because I was pretty impressed with how much he was able to carry that lowly wizards team this year without John Wall. I actually did expect them to be the worst team in the NBA with that roster. And yes Duncan is the all time most undervalued but big men usually are. I can find Beal auto RC for as low as $30

RogerGodahell

07-11-2020, 09:22 PM

Trae gets the benefit of the doubt because he's new. All young players get that as long as they're performing well. ATL has potential, maybe not immediately but they'll have at least a few more years to do something. His stats are pretty dang good he's just overshadowed. You've got to give most of these guys several years because they were drafted high for a reason. Their team stinks unless you get a high pick through a trade like BOS did with Tatum which is rare.

Jmsiak13

07-11-2020, 09:22 PM

Jmsiak13

07-11-2020, 09:24 PM

Trae Young Rc's are also on average about 3x to 5x the price. So there's that. I brought up Beal because I was pretty impressed with how much he was able to carry that lowly wizards team this year without John Wall. And yes Duncan is the all time most undervalued but big men usually are. I can find Beal auto RC for as low as $30Wtf I've been doing the same !!! Shhh on buying Beal !! We don't need them knowing how good Washington will be with wall, Beal and Rui

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ninjacookies

07-11-2020, 09:28 PM

Yes, but he is also on the worst team in the league. That’s the definition of empty stats. And 26 is not old, if that’s what you are implying.

I’m simply responding to the idea of pointless stats = no value.

I get it...but prospecting doesn't place as much weight on empty stats if they're upper tier and coming early into their career. There's always the open window for optimism and improvement.

If Beal was putting up last year's numbers as a sophomore, you'd see a much different trajectory in his prices. At 26, his outlook is a lot different.

ninjacookies

07-11-2020, 09:32 PM

Trae Young Rc's are also on average about 3x to 5x the price. So there's that. I brought up Beal because I was pretty impressed with how much he was able to carry that lowly wizards team this year without John Wall. I actually did expect them to be the worst team in the NBA with that roster. And yes Duncan is the all time most undervalued but big men usually are. I can find Beal auto RC for as low as $30

He's become a very good player, no doubt. But this is where the hobby good vs. real life good debate comes in.

I suppose it's difficult to define bargain when you have a 3x champ, 5x all star, all-defensive, and 2x all nba talent like Klay Thompson that came into the league at the same time.....and still doesn't sell well.

Or perhaps I've said too much.

gomiamigo

07-11-2020, 09:39 PM

ThoseBackPages

07-11-2020, 09:44 PM

i voted no

ninjacookies

07-11-2020, 09:48 PM

i voted no

He hath spoken.

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whoaitsg33

07-11-2020, 10:21 PM

Beal would not be on my top 20 list. Overall, most undervalued all-time is Duncan by far. For current players, it’s Kyrie.
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duncan for sure. was bidding on his 2012 Silver Prizms all 9.5 and it sold for just $600 ish. thats crazy undervalued like most of his stuff.

Kobe101

07-11-2020, 10:42 PM

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duncan for sure. was bidding on his 2012 Silver Prizms all 9.5 and it sold for just $600 ish. thats crazy undervalued like most of his stuff.

15th year refractor for 600 wow

drobfan8

07-11-2020, 11:20 PM

Beal would not be on my top 20 list. Overall, most undervalued all-time is Duncan by far. For current players, it’s Kyrie.

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duncan for sure. was bidding on his 2012 Silver Prizms all 9.5 and it sold for just $600 ish. thats crazy undervalued like most of his stuff.

Yesssss!!!:)!

drobfan8

07-11-2020, 11:20 PM

15th year refractor for 600 wow

:D

I love what you did there

brock

01-02-2021, 11:35 PM

Worried about Beal with another wasted season in DC...

But I got this card for a decent deal:

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Where does BO think Beal lands in the next 18 months? Lakers? Nets? Bucks?

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Ericc5Bears

01-03-2021, 02:44 AM

Yeah he's severely undervalued because it's obvious once he gets traded to a contender his prices are going to skyrocket because he's such an entertaining and great scorer, it's just that nobody wants to wait a year+ for that to happen.

brock

01-03-2021, 10:56 AM

Yeah, I really don't understand why he has been so insistent on staying in DC. I'm a wizards fan and I'm still bugged that they traded cwebb and kept juwan Howard. This will be the same situation when Beal leaves (and they keep Westbrook), but I don't know why Beal wants to stay.

Clearly the wizards are pretenders. He is 27.5 years old... There isn't much time to waste if he is going to make a real postseason impact at some point in his career. Losing to Boston in 7 games in the Easter semis doesn't count...

Hoping the unceremonious Wall exit plus 1-5 start will convince Beal that he needs to light a fire under his agent to get outta town!

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spurs50fan

01-03-2021, 11:24 AM

15th year refractor for 600 wow

Yeah seriously...this infatuation with mass produced modern cards is puzzling.

But yeah Beal is undervalued. You have rookies and 2nd year that won’t touch 20ppg already selling for more

hauntedcomputer

01-03-2021, 06:43 PM

The market is always right, even when it's stupid

Akphillips86

01-03-2021, 07:07 PM

The market is always right, even when it's stupid

In a freeze frame sense, yes. And the market can be quite stupid. However, It is generally understood when talking about things that are “undervalued” it’s players or sets that could be projected to have an increase in value in the near future using logical deduction.

For example, I recall pointing out that both AD and Lillard were undervalued (which they were at the time), and buying on that notion. Flipped some of their stuff for a nice profit. Still wish I had a lot of it honestly, but it’s hard to turn down money when you need it.

In the case of Beal though, I don’t think he will get the hobby love without a trade.

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Ginger Ale

01-06-2021, 10:07 PM

he dropped 60 tonight.

Donkaylove

01-06-2021, 10:13 PM

its lillard, beal, curry---shooters, range, ability to get off, --period. its a tight class

Chryghst

01-06-2021, 10:35 PM

Ingram, Embiid, Jokic, Kyrie, PG, Lillard, Harden. Then maybe Beal in terms of under-hobbied imho

mondogenerator

01-06-2021, 11:15 PM

good player, not heavily marketed or promoted, team kinda meh

the nba is full of these.

Braswell10

01-06-2021, 11:23 PM

good player, not heavily marketed or promoted, team kinda meh

the nba is full of these.

Full of 30+ ppg scorers? That’s funny because last year there were only two.

Akphillips86

01-06-2021, 11:31 PM

good player, not heavily marketed or promoted, team kinda meh

the nba is full of these.

Yeah, I’m not any sort of Beal backer or own any of his stuff, but this is definitely underselling him. Although he does need a change of scenery to truly get appreciated.

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CitizunKane

01-07-2021, 12:24 AM

Bradley Beal = Mitch Richmond. Great player, not particularly relevant in the hobby.

Ericc5Bears

01-07-2021, 02:25 AM

good player, not heavily marketed or promoted, team kinda meh

the nba is full of these.

Lmao, I need to see the NBA that you're watching that's apparently full of efficient 30/5/5 guys. He's only undermarketed and promoted because he plays on maybe the single most dysfunctional franchise in the NBA. As soon as he gets traded to a contender he's going to be Devin Booker 2.0 and people are going to act like it wasn't the most obvious thing in the world.

MikawlBBC

01-07-2021, 09:28 AM

Ingram, Embiid, Jokic, Kyrie, PG, Lillard, Harden. Then maybe Beal in terms of under-hobbied imho

Add Westbrook, future HOF but no hobby love.

Arianny_Fan

01-07-2021, 09:36 AM

Isnt he paid millions to play "basketball"? I could care less about his cards being worth what they are. :D

brock

01-07-2021, 11:58 AM

Lmao, I need to see the NBA that you're watching that's apparently full of efficient 30/5/5 guys. He's only undermarketed and promoted because he plays on maybe the single most dysfunctional franchise in the NBA. As soon as he gets traded to a contender he's going to be Devin Booker 2.0 and people are going to act like it wasn't the most obvious thing in the world.

I think he is better than Booker. Booker is much more of a volume chucker.

Beal is literally the final piece that the LBJ, AD Lakers need to win 3/4 titles.

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Zacy87

01-07-2021, 12:45 PM

Add Westbrook, future HOF but no hobby love.

Westbrook is not on their level. He pad stats and is a career loser. That's why he doesn't get hobby love.

MattRoc

01-07-2021, 01:01 PM

Westbrook is not on their level. He pad stats and is a career loser. That's why he doesn't get hobby love.

And this is why Westbrook fans are so defensive about the guy. Anyone call Chris Paul a career loser? John Stockton? Charles Barkley? Saying he's "not on the level" of freaking Brandon Ingram, Embiid, Jokic, etc. Really good players, but guys who have accomplished 1/10 of what Westbrook has.

Westbrook is one of the 35-40 best players in the history of the NBA. One Finals appearance, three other conference finals. MVP. Lost two prime playoff years due to injury of himself and Durant. Gold medals. Simply ridiculous to dismiss the man's career and call him a "loser" and "stat-padder."

Zacy87

01-07-2021, 01:07 PM

And this is why Westbrook fans are so defensive about the guy. Anyone call Chris Paul a career loser? John Stockton? Charles Barkley? Saying he's "not on the level" of freaking Brandon Ingram, Embiid, Jokic, etc. Really good players, but guys who have accomplished 1/10 of what Westbrook has.

Westbrook is one of the 35-40 best players in the history of the NBA. One Finals appearance, three other conference finals. MVP. Lost two prime playoff years due to injury of himself and Durant. Gold medals. Simply ridiculous to dismiss the man's career and call him a "loser" and "stat-padder."

He's played with some of the best players in recent history in the NBA and they all wanted to leave. He's a selfish player who hides it well by accumulating assists.

I don't care about Westbrook fans being defensive, and the fact you have to mention other NBA players just proves a point. It's not about Embiid or Jokic or anyone else. Westbrook is a career loser with great stats, that for the most part, are completely hollow.

Nobody wants to play with the guy. I put Harden in the exact same category as Westbrook except Harden is by far a much better scorer.

rustywest

01-07-2021, 01:48 PM

Sure enough some jerk piece found a way to vomit out Westbrook hate in a Beal is undervalued thread :rolleyes:

I don't collect Panini so I have no idea about values of players like Bradley. If he's available cheap then that's tremendous for a player collector, really liked that first year Prizm auto that was shown earlier in the thread!

What about Embiid? I can imagine, with the hobby track record of big men, he is probably well undervalued...

solt0131

01-07-2021, 01:50 PM

Bradley Beal = Mitch Richmond. Great player, not particularly relevant in the hobby.

Mitch Richmond never had a rookie hit $175.00.

:D

letsgocapitals

01-07-2021, 01:57 PM

Wall, Beal, and Westbrook all are similar players in some respects.

Very good, to excellent, offensive players. But none of them (consistently anyways) play defense. And all of them, to some extend, chase stats. Wall and Westbrook are poor 3 pt shooters that still jack em up every game.

Career losers is correct.

And I'm a Wizards fan that watches most of their games.

Last night, Westbrook actually tried to play defense last night. Beal didn't. Wizards were down by 8-10, and took the lead, with Beal on the bench. Back in he comes and they go on to lose. This is nothing new. If you play DFS, load up on shooting guards playing the Wizards. Philly shot 80% from 3pt range, in the first half, last night.

Chris P

01-07-2021, 02:05 PM

Zacy87

01-07-2021, 02:21 PM

Not even worth it man....it is what it is..most people in NBA circles that matter..don't agree with their assessments anyways

No no you're right... 3 teams in 3 years.

Chris P

01-07-2021, 03:37 PM

No no you're right... 3 teams in 3 years.

So what? Hes been on 3 teams on 3 years? And?

Chris P

01-07-2021, 03:39 PM

No no you're right... 3 teams in 3 years.

Kawhi was on 3 teams in 3 years too so was Chris Paul.anyways im not gonna derail this beal thread..its not about wb..you believe what you want..im not gonna change your mind so im not going to go into a back and forth about it

tjforce

01-07-2021, 04:11 PM

I think he is better than Booker. Booker is much more of a volume chucker.

Beal is literally the final piece that the LBJ, AD Lakers need to win 3/4 titles.

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And that's the issue...

for Beal to win he's got to go to a team and be the 3rd guy.

That doesn't equal hobby love unless he starting dying his hair exotic colors and wearing a wedding dress.

I'd argue that the most overrated (maybe not overvalued) type of player in the league is the guy 1 dimensional guard that puts up big scoring numbers, is not a great distributor, and plays no defense.

Beal and Kemba are the first two to come to mind.

Prox3

01-31-2021, 11:21 PM

Getting tough to not go all in on this guy

ninjacookies

01-31-2021, 11:31 PM

I look at Beal and I see CJ McCollum on steroids. (please don't hurt me)

4-12.

Probably undervalued in relation to his scoring output.

But he's also 27 and didn't start averaging over 20 until age 23. 2x AS almost a decade in.

He's a scalp; not a HODL.

Invest with caution.