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mouschi
09-11-2020, 04:10 PM
Hey BO fam! It has been a while since I posted. I hope everyone is doing well. I wrote a post on my site and thought some of you may enjoy seeing what has been up in my world...

As a buyer and seller of baseball card collections for 15 years, I always enjoy being neck deep in cardboard. When it comes to buying Canseco collections, it is way more exciting for me, as I am able to keep out what I want instead of just selling everything. Check out how this last month went for me!

BUYING MATT'S CANSECO SUPERCOLLECTION

About 2 years ago, I was in the thick of selling off my Jose Canseco supercollection. One of the very first people to buy a significant portion of it was noted Jose Canseco Supercollector Matt. If you are in the Canseco collecting community, you know who Matt is. Like me, Matt had a website showing all of his cards, which eventually grew to well over 2,600 unique cards. When I told him I was selling off in 2018, he was shocked, but ultimately finished off the day being around 100 new cards richer from my collection. He would come back over the next few months to make a few other good sized purchases as well.

Fast forward 2 years, I'm collecting again, though not trying to pickup everything - just cards I love. There is no longer a desire to get everything. I've enjoyed getting back cards I love and making trades with other collectors over the past couple of years.

I have been trying to work a deal with Matt for a few of my old cards, but he would not budge. He wasn't trading, and certainly not selling. Understandable! I have a number of cards like that myself. When I saw this, I fell out of my chair. (Figuratively speaking, that is ... I was actually in the bathroom about to hop in the shower.)

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I gave him a ring to see what was up, and he said he was just getting bored, and was ready to focus on other collecting ventures. I completely get that - selling off was the right move for me, as I was able to diversify and fall in love with vintage, while maintaining the awestruck wonder I've had for Canseco cards ever since I was a child.

I was excited for the possibility of being able to get about five cards. But then a thought crept into my head. What if we could work a deal where I could buy him out of everything?#@

After thinking about it and going back & forth a bit, we negotiated a price to where we both felt comfortable. Matt, where he could put enough money in his pocket that would justify the extra shelf space, and me where I could sell off the majority of it to make some money (or at least offset the keepers), while keeping a number of cards for my own!

Matt did an incredible job of putting together a world class collection. It was well organized, had the majority of the grail cards that people can spend a lifetime trying to acquire, and yet never have the luxury of ever even seeing in real life. It was clean, top-loaded and in order. If this were a concert, Matt's Canseco supercollection was a beautifully orchestrated symphony.

But the concert isn't over.

BUYING ANDREW'S CANSECO SUPERCOLLECTION

As the curtains close on Matt's collection, the audience is met with bass, and lots of it. A wicked guitar solo fills the air. It is now a heavy metal concert, and the band: Andrew's Canseco supercollection.

Days after the deal with Matt was completed, Jose Canseco Supercollector Andrew called me up, saying he was ready to part ways with his massive collection, too. After a day or so, we agreed on pricing and I had a lot more Jose Canseco goodness coming my way. To put things into perspective, the total weight of Matt's collection was about 75 pounds, whereas Andrew's was close to 300 pounds.

Their collections were opposite in every way possible. Andrew was in the game a lot longer. He didn't have everything perfectly top loaded or in order, and had a lot of doubles.

Shown below are pictures of many of the "keepers" from both collections, along with a few cards I already had, and various cards I traded for with the help of cards from the collections that I wasn't in love with.

So, here we go!

THE GOODS

Nearly 10% of the entire 1993 Finest Refractor print run!

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Several Glory of Their Time patch cards with a glorious pencil moustache is, well, glorious!

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Having one of these is awesome. Having three is incredible! It is extremely difficult to get a hold of one.

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A nice hoard of the serial numbered inserts that started it all - the first ever pack pulled serial numbered cards. To pull a single Elite Canseco, you could reasonably expect to have to bust 52 cases. Finding a PSA 10? Forget about it!

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This Leaf jumbo relic rainbow used to be mine ... it is back home with me again! PS - Leaf, you are super cruel. A rainbow of 1/1, /2, /3, /5 & /15? Shame on you! :)

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I was in love with this run when I first saw it - particularly the gold, because it is Jose's first "wave" material card. Having the 1/1 was great! I actually had a number of the others as well, but sold them off because I didn't want to get into doing rainbows again. Well ... Andrew had everything else except the 1/1. So I guess I'm gonna keep 'em :) They look marvelous together!

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I already had the middle card which features a rookie gamer Rawlings tag. Having a jumbo patch and swatch from the same rookie gamer seems to fit very nicely!

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I *NEVER* thought I would be able to see these again. I already had the middle (after having bought/sold/traded it back and forth several times), but the black framed Museum trio definitely looks like they belong in a museum together. They are special enough, and low numbered enough that they may never be seen again in our lifetime...unless another supercollector sells out, that is!

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In 2014, 2015 & 2016, Museum produced a special sepia parallel limited to just five copies each. I came into the supercollecting game too late for the 2014 issue, but never did come to grips with the fact that if one showed up, it would literally take a supercollector selling out to secure one. I was able to get the 2015 and 2016, but as with most of my other cards, I sold them.

To my surprise, Andrew had the 2014 and 2016, but not the 2015. I felt like I was playing wack-a-mole with the sepias! I was able to secure the 2015 from another supercollector by trading and equally as rare gold version and a few other cards. After years, the chocolate trifecta is complete! Mmmm....chocolate....

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I never got into Diamond Icons before, but this trio is striking, and all 1/x. 1/10, 1/5 and 1/1!

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I LOATHE cards without pictures of the players on them, so in order for me to allow them into my collection, they have to be extremely special. The 2017 Leaf Q features nasty Rangers jumbo patches that are second to none, and are framed in glorious foil. If the above rainbow I called out Leaf on was shameful, check out the numbering on these! /1, /2, /3, /4 & /7. Most of these were mine previously, so getting them back - as a complete rainbow - is exciting! They are showstoppers, in spite of not having a pic of Jose.

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Three patch cards from the same /10 card.

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Three of the ten Bash Brothers dual patch cards? Cool!

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All kinds of Trajectory patches! I'm so impressed with this set. Before I sold out, I had the middle chunk below, minus the Rawlings sleeve tag. I missed out on that one, as it was sold while I was sleeping years ago. The elephant patch is something I found on eBay just while I was getting off of work. When I got back into collecting again, I bought back the 7th one shown below, thinking it was the 2nd one. I was really bummed, but today, I just got the 2nd one back in a trade, thanks to cards from the 2 collections I didn't need! Here they all are, joined for the first time in some instances and reunited in others.

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These 20 year old Gold Label Die Cuts were cards I didn't really think much about once I bought them and checked them off the list. Now that I have them back, I'm loving them more now than ever!

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Another beautiful and rare trifecta! 1999 Flair Showcase Legacy

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The '99 Flairs are great, but the '97 Flair trifecta is even better! The middle one was on my want list forever. I had never even seen it for sale until earlier this year. I picked it up and loved it, but now that the other two were in one of the collections to go along with it, I love it even more!

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Patches, a hat hole and batting glove!

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Prime Patches are some of my favorites. Several of these have different serial numbering, depending upon if the patch is from the number, chest logo, nameplate, etc. IMO you can't have too many of them - the important part is the patch portion, so in my book, even doubles aren't doubles.

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What kind of post would this be without some grail junk wax goodness?

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Shown below is nearly 25% of the entire 2015 Topps Dynasty Run. I already had the 25th anniversary patch, and got back the top left green with the baseball patch recently as well. Some of my favorites!

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These patches are extremely difficult to land ... here is a nice run of them!

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If you thought rainbows with tons of parallels was a new thing, you would be wrong. Check out these 20+ year old rainbow runs from 1999 and 2000 Pacific Prism. WOW - the colors POP! These vary from fairly easy to find to seemingly impossible to find.

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That last picture is shine overload, I get it. Many of them can stand on their own and make me drool. Here are 3 Prisms (including 1 from a previous set) that seem to go really well together.

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These are all cards made of actual wood #/10, #/25, #/10 and #/25. I never thought I'd see these again. It is fun getting them, especially since 1987 featured a wood grain design!

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These all refract beautifully - ranging from unnumbered to /5

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I actually picked up the Red Crusade a few months back, but the green and purple are a welcome addition to complete the rainbow! The red is a grail card, in fact, it is widely considered as one of the three best cards produced in the 90s of Jose.

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May 2015, I was in the car with my family and on the way to Jose Canseco's house. I had my eye on a very special card that I had never seen before. 2002 Leaf Certified Fabric of the Game. It was special because (I think) it is Jose's first auto patch card. Limited to just 10 copies, I was super excited about it. My eyes were on the auction winding down while I was in the passenger seat. I lost.

Five years later, I found out that Andrew was the winner - so now, it is mine! Here it is with a few other differently serial numbered patch cards from the same set!

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Very few things get me as excited as older prototype cards. The left hand side is a 1998 Leaf Fractal Matrix Unreleased Gold Prototype. It came as a COMPLETE shock to me. I had never seen one, so I didn't even know it existed. It was just sitting very unassumingly in a sleeve. I nearly fell out of my chair!

To the right of it is a pack released beauty. The Diamond Axis. I already have the Executive Sample Prototype, but the one I noticed in going through the collection has something extra special going for it. It is # 33/50 - Jose's jersey number! I don't go hard on jersey numbered cards, however, I remember seeing this one several years ago thinking if I were to, this one would be it! I was unable to secure it. Unbeknownst to me, the exact 33/50 card was in one of the collections! Here is a picture of the two beauties together.

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There are patch cards, and then there are PATCH cards. Landing any one of these from 2000-2001 Upper Deck is a treat. A card nearly 20 years old that is numbered to /25 is a pretty big deal, considering these are some of Jose's first patch cards. We may see /25 as relatively high numbered these days. To put it into perspective, the chance of landing a similar patch card to one of the other unnumbered patch cards shown below was 1 in every 7,500-10,000 packs! These could be considered by many to be centerpiece items! Black, White, Yellow, Green, Blue, Turquoise, Purple ... gahhh ... love the colors - and textures - of these patches!

The source of these four are all different. The first one was a trade, the second one was purchase from overseas which became the first sale I made when I opened up my collection to the public for sale. My good friend Jon ended up with it and sold it back to me back in 2018 if I recall correctly. The third and fourth were from Andrew's collection, though Andrew bought the fourth one from me to begin with. The first one is obviously my favorite, and it would not have happened had I not had good cards to trade! In fact, Andrew actually had the exact patch card Jon hoped to get back in his collection, so thanks to this deal, he was able to get it back!

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The card I pleaded with Matt about the most to trade back to me over the years was the one in the middle: The 1998 Donruss Preferred Prized Collections. Its story actually begins 5 years ago when I purchased a large collection it was in. I didn't think much about it, and even mislabeled it on my website. I didn't even realize I had a rarity until a year or two into having it! With a print run of 55, it is pretty much perfect. It is hard for non 90's enthusiasts to understand how big this card actually is. I've only seen it up for sale a couple of times. In fact, during the deal I was making with Matt, a former set collector of these sold out his collection. He spent 20 years tracking down nearly all of them, and told me Canseco was one of the few he could never find. It was a card that didn't mean much to me the first time I had it. Now that I have it a second time, it has never shined brighter!

The card on the right is sneaky. Super sneaky. In fact, I didn't even remember it having much shine and nearly dealt it away AGAIN before it came back to me. I decided to hold off selling it for a second time *just in case* it had a refractor finish. Sure enough - it did! Emblazoned on the back in big, black letters is "SAMPLE". Like the middle card, it didn't mean much to me the first time I picked it up, but after doing some research, it is apparent to me that it just might be rarer than the card in the middle! Both cards are in my wheelhouse - extreme rarity matched only by their extreme beauty. The card on the left is not rare - it is just there as eye candy to complete the trio since it is in the same run.

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Have you ever looked at a rainbow/set and decide from the outset that it is simply impossible? That describes this run - 2000 Topps Tek Gold #/10. I had 15 of the 20. I paid good money to get these into my collection the first time, and sold them all to Matt. If Matt's collection was a pot of gold, this would quite literally be the gold that shines brightest. While they were in Matt's care, he added the red, and when I got them back, I was able to trade for the yellow. I am three away from the entire run - if you have any, please let me know!

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Now that I have successfully eaten up all of your bandwidth, I should probably wrap this up. There are so many more noteworthy cards not shown, so I'll finish up with one final graphic that includes a number of my favorites from both supercollections. Included are a letter patch that I've been wanting to get for a couple of years, three 1/1s that were initially mine, Grand Finale, Super Rave, a Material Ink auto patch that I tried extremely hard to pick up a few years ago from another seller, but failed (literally the exact same one!) and most notably for me, my favorite button card, ever. I had to trade BIG for it, but the trade simply would not have happened had I not been able to use cards from these collections.

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In my entire collecting "career", I have never experienced acquiring such depth of exciting cards in this amount of time. It doesn't get any better than this for me. So many mysteries have been solved, runs completed, regrets of selling some cards have been washed away, and a number of trade opportunities have opened up! I sold a number of rarities from Matt's collection, and thankfully, Andrew had copies of many of them as well, so what may have been a regret turned out to be several bullets dodged.

Taking the pictures shown above took a lot of time, but I had a TON of fun doing it - I may even consider taking pictures of pretty looking cards a hobby!

FINAL THOUGHTS

These past couple years since I sold off my supercollection have been a great time of learning and gaining experience. Getting back into collecting without the need for everything has made me truly appreciate beautiful cards that may not be rare. An unnumbered refractor means so much more to me now that it isn't just a chore getting one to check it off the list. In doing so, even the bigger cards are that much more rewarding for me as well, and as you can see, I now have a lot.

If you have read my book, you may recall that I was contemplating buying out a massive collection, but decided not to, which ultimately ended in me selling off my own collection. It is funny how things have come full circle, but I am so glad they did. I'm having so much more fun now in this hobby than I ever have, and I think the key to it all was not trying to have it all, and focusing only on cards that I love.

It has been a few weeks since I've closed these deals, but am STILL super excited/joyful/grateful for them. Matt and Andrew, thank you for allowing me to be the home for your extremely impressive collections. You both built something to be proud of, and I couldn't be happier.

YouFold2Me
09-11-2020, 04:17 PM
tanman.. you are a sick, sick man... and WE ALL LOVE YOU because of it!! :D

KRAVEN4LIFE
09-11-2020, 04:24 PM
Awesome read and you know what I've been in the hobby since 1984 and man I've never been able to key on 1 item or player . I do have my favs but I've never gone all in. And you know what like the idea now at a ripe age of 41 . You have brought back memories of what this hobby should be about COMMUNITY! Thanks man from one collector to another thank you !!!!!!

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dashcol
09-11-2020, 04:25 PM
Nice to see a lot of them back with you Tanner! 10% of the Finest refractors is just insane!
A lot of us figured you wouldn't, be able to stay away, LOL.

Does this mean that we will en up with a sequel to Confessions of a Baseball Card Addict? :coffee:

mouschi
09-11-2020, 04:26 PM
tanman.. you are a sick, sick man... and WE ALL LOVE YOU because of it!! :D

Awesome read and you know what I've been in the hobby since 1984 and man I've never been able to key on 1 item or player . I do have my favs but I've never gone all in. And you know what like the idea now at a ripe age of 41 . You have brought back memories of what this hobby should be about COMMUNITY! Thanks man from one collector to another thank you !!!!!!

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Guys, seriously - thank you for the kind feedback. I know it can get a little "rowdy" in these here parts, so kind words are always refreshing. I very much so appreciate it!

The Accountant
09-11-2020, 04:29 PM
Glad to have you back! Someone needs to write a book on you lol.

The Chad
09-11-2020, 04:30 PM
Those are some SICK cards. Congrats on your pickups!!!

mouschi
09-11-2020, 04:30 PM
Nice to see a lot of them back with you Tanner! 10% of the Finest refractors is just insane!
A lot of us figured you wouldn't, be able to stay away, LOL.

Does this mean that we will en up with a sequel to Confessions of a Baseball Card Addict? :coffee:

HAHA! I would love to write another book, and was kicking around ideas ... relapse of a baseball card addict? :cry: In all seriousness, I think it would be good to write something for folks who want to try to get the most out of this hobby - make money, not go into debt or get into trouble, etc. I think that would be a very good thing...if I only had the time! We'll see what the future holds :)

mouschi
09-11-2020, 04:34 PM
Glad to have you back! Someone needs to write a book on you lol.

Those are some SICK cards. Congrats on your pickups!!!

Thank you guys! Ugh ... if someone wrote a book *about* me, I don't think I could stomach reading it! :cry:

Jopeal
09-11-2020, 04:37 PM
This thread delivers on its title.

The 1993 Finest Refractor PC is incredible!!

LCM1223
09-11-2020, 04:47 PM
I don’t care about Jose Conseco cards at all and I’m still jealous af

mouschi
09-11-2020, 05:20 PM
This thread delivers on its title.

The 1993 Finest Refractor PC is incredible!!

Thanks! I never was into dups ... until now!

I don’t care about Jose Conseco cards at all and I’m still jealous af

LOL! I think that is the mark of a successful post :) Thanks man!

LVDan
09-11-2020, 05:34 PM
Not being a Canseco fan or a 90s collector, I shouldn’t have just spent 20 mins staring, reading and reminiscing but that post was awesome in every way. Standing in line at KMart in 98’ in OC and I hadn’t collected cards in 10 years when I saw those fancy Donruss Preffered Tins and bought 2. Stunning set that sucked me back in.
Thanks Tanner!


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jayjones82
09-11-2020, 06:00 PM
Always awesome write-ups! Oh, the 90s...that decade produced some great-looking cards.

REGGIE206
09-11-2020, 06:37 PM
Great read! :)!

wood minis
09-11-2020, 06:43 PM
Amazing! Does this mean you have the A&G wood minis back? Would love to add one to my wood mini collection if available.

crohrer
09-11-2020, 07:06 PM
Incredible! I can’t decide if I like the finest refractors or the prime patches better. The 90’s were just on another level of awesomeness!

lakesidez
09-11-2020, 07:41 PM
Purchased and read your book, I love following your story. Congrats!!

kabrune2
09-11-2020, 08:42 PM
I hate Canseco, but damn that collection is sick and had me mesmerized for almost 30 minutes reading through it all. Wow, congrats on a nicely curated set

byronscott4ever
09-11-2020, 08:49 PM
I can only imagine what reaction I’d get if I announced I was buying two collections let alone one...

Shadowsonic2004
09-11-2020, 09:18 PM
If you have read my book, you may recall that I was contemplating buying out a massive collection, but decided not to, which ultimately ended in me selling off my own collection.Nice cards, great story. My only question is, how did you even bring this up with your wife. Something like "I want to buy someone's Canseco collection" then two days later you're like "now I want to buy someone else's even bigger Canseco collection" If she was just like sure if that's what you want then you need to buy her something incredible for whatever hobby she has.

Donkaylove
09-11-2020, 09:21 PM
i dont like the blue jays or tampa cards--i said it

IgnatiusJReilly
09-11-2020, 10:24 PM
Awesome cards. I really like the 2015 Dynasty set and they look super cool all together like that. Nice work!


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Scientist78
09-11-2020, 10:52 PM
jesus wept

NYRE2PECT
09-11-2020, 11:01 PM
That's a heck of a lot of forearm to being storing around the house...holy Canseco batman!

PuddleMonkey
09-12-2020, 12:04 AM
That's pretty awesome!

nbalinks
09-12-2020, 03:51 AM
Amazing collection! Glad to see your passion for the hobby has returned!

mouschi
09-12-2020, 07:32 AM
Thank you guys for the feedback! I have another couple trades in process and am about to open up (hopefully) a few other trades as well. I'm really excited about it all. Most of my best stuff isn't even pictured in this thread! :)

mouschi
09-12-2020, 07:44 AM
Nice cards, great story. My only question is, how did you even bring this up with your wife. Something like "I want to buy someone's Canseco collection" then two days later you're like "now I want to buy someone else's even bigger Canseco collection" If she was just like sure if that's what you want then you need to buy her something incredible for whatever hobby she has.

I'm sorry I missed your question! I've been buying and selling collections for 15 years now, so she's used to it. It is part of the reason I'm able to stay in the hobby and thankfully have been able to stay in the black :) These purchases weren't to just keep (though I am keeping much of what I showed) - had I not been able to have sold off a significant amount of either collection (which I am still in the process of doing) I wouldn't have picked either up!

mouschi
09-12-2020, 07:51 AM
BAH - I'm doing a terrible job at responding to everyone - my brain is not awake yet, and without caffeine.

i dont like the blue jays or tampa cards--i said it

Shame on you, sir. SHAAAAME! I can understand that though - some people only like seeing Jose as a member of the Athletics. For me personally, I LOVE that he has cards representing 9 different teams. Not so much when I was 12 and he got traded to the Rangers - I wept like a little baby.

I can only imagine what reaction I’d get if I announced I was buying two collections let alone one...

Haha, I understand. Just like I responded to ShadowSonic2004 previously, this wasn't just a "Hey babe! I'm gonna spend truckloads of money on cardboard pictures of that huge dude we hung out with a few years ago!" This all was made possible because I was/am able to move much of the collections, and only keep the ones I truly loved.

Purchased and read your book, I love following your story. Congrats!!

Thank you very much for reading and following - I really appreciate that!

Amazing! Does this mean you have the A&G wood minis back? Would love to add one to my wood mini collection if available.

Thanks man! I only have one which I'm keeping, and was able to secure it after the sell out from a different source. While the older ones that I had are gone forever, I'm very grateful they made another that made it into my collection. I think I remember seeing your collection though, and it is nothing short of uber impressive!

BosPats1980
09-12-2020, 07:53 AM
WOW!! Congrats on the buys!!

MiamiMarlinsFan
09-12-2020, 08:20 AM
That’s a lot of Jose Canseco...

Daddo333
09-12-2020, 09:32 AM
Man, this was an awesome Saturday morning read. I love your excitement and passion for collecting. You do a great job of describing the joy that we all feel. This is a legendary collection you've built and I look forward to seeing what else you add!

I should probably read this book of yours :)

Thanks for the great post!

mouschi
09-12-2020, 10:28 AM
Man, this was an awesome Saturday morning read. I love your excitement and passion for collecting. You do a great job of describing the joy that we all feel. This is a legendary collection you've built and I look forward to seeing what else you add!

I should probably read this book of yours :)

Thanks for the great post!

Thanks man! And yes, a book buy would be most appreciated :) Hit me up if/when you read it and I'll shoot you over a "bonus" online chapter that kind of bridges that gap from where I went with it to where I am now.

quackhead
09-12-2020, 10:42 AM
Great collection!! Where are the 86 Donruss ??

89Giants
09-12-2020, 11:52 AM
Incredible player collection indeed. I thought about you the other day when I was in Vegas and met Jose at his carwash. Its pretty cool, everything is green and gold on the outside. Clearly he wants to be remembered as an Oakland A.

mouschi
09-12-2020, 02:32 PM
Great collection!! Where are the 86 Donruss ??

Thank you! This is the only one I have, but it's a monster... recollection collection buyback auto #ed to 21.

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Incredible player collection indeed. I thought about you the other day when I was in Vegas and met Jose at his carwash. Its pretty cool, everything is green and gold on the outside. Clearly he wants to be remembered as an Oakland A.

That's awesome! I'd love to go there sometime. It would be like Disneyland!

Mister2Bits
09-12-2020, 03:02 PM
This is so amazing. The story (as always) is really cool, and the photographs/scans/presentation are top notch. So much fun to read and look at. Those patches /33 are so awesome!

palmetto7
09-12-2020, 03:15 PM
Love your passion for the hobby! Thank you for all your posts and storytelling.

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quackhead
09-12-2020, 05:00 PM
Nice Recollection 86 Donruss :)! A definite iconic card from the 80s.

mouschi
09-12-2020, 08:17 PM
This is so amazing. The story (as always) is really cool, and the photographs/scans/presentation are top notch. So much fun to read and look at. Those patches /33 are so awesome!

The pictures took the longest but man.... that was my favorite part of putting this article together!

Ferg1945
09-13-2020, 03:16 AM
Never bought a collection and doubt I ever will. What sort of % do they usually go for?

NickStam
09-13-2020, 05:46 AM
sweet jesus, all those Donruss Elite

cowboyzqna
09-13-2020, 08:01 AM
Amazing.

mouschi
09-13-2020, 09:27 AM
Never bought a collection and doubt I ever will. What sort of % do they usually go for?

That really all depends upon the content. I ran into a guy who had a MASSIVE regional brand Nolan Ryan hoard. The card would typically sell for $3 each. He had cases of them - something to the tune of 1,000 of the same card. In his mind, he had $3,000 worth of Nolan Ryan cards, and was doing someone a favor by trying to sell all for $2,200. I told him they may be worth a resale value of $3,000 if selling one at a piece (not taking fees into consideration) but it wouldn't be until the year 2,423 that someone could realize that number. On ebay, they would sell at about $3 each ... 1 a month, and there was always some on hand. I personally wouldn't want to even pay $1,000 for an endeavor like that. You could have lots of 1, 5, 10, 100 and they may just sit for eternity.

On the other hand, if there are 2 $1,500 cards, then $2,200 isn't out of the question since there wouldn't be much work/time involved.

A lot of times when I run into collections like this, there will be a glut of low dollar cards with some big money cards mixed in. It almost comes down to a gut feeling for me as to what I am comfortable with in paying on collections. We all have to take into consideration what we want to keep (if anything), how much work it would be to post for sale, how many listings, how long we are willing to wait to realize a profit, etc.

Determining what it takes can oftentimes be a huge task in and of itself! ESPECIALLY when it comes to something you have extreme emotional ties to. That makes it all the more difficult sometimes!

dhcollecting
09-13-2020, 10:27 AM
Great collection!

Do you know if Canseco has a jumbo patch version of the 2005 Prime Patches?

2soonjr
09-13-2020, 10:37 AM
those 97 Flair Legacy

https://i.imgur.com/MbOYM0S.jpg

ngs428
09-13-2020, 10:53 AM
Nice collection Tanner! I have seen a number of your posts. Can you give me the cliff notes version... You started as a Canseco super collector, then sold most of it (why did you sell again?), then went with vintage cards. Now you are back to Canseco?. Help me connect the dots here. :)

Nice presentation with the images!!

mouschi
09-13-2020, 02:28 PM
Great collection!

Do you know if Canseco has a jumbo patch version of the 2005 Prime Patches?

I wish they did! I think all they have is a 1/1 jumbo swatch. I've never seen it. I'd LOVE to get more though, that's for sure!

those 97 Flair Legacy

https://i.imgur.com/MbOYM0S.jpg

:p Mmmm....cardboard!

Nice collection Tanner! I have seen a number of your posts. Can you give me the cliff notes version... You started as a Canseco super collector, then sold most of it (why did you sell again?), then went with vintage cards. Now you are back to Canseco?. Help me connect the dots here. :)

Nice presentation with the images!!

Yessir! No doubt this has the potential to be long winded, so I'll try to be as concise as possible (while giving as complete a picture as I can!)

I started as a kid, and exited around the same time many others did - '93-94ish.

During Hurricane Rita in 05 or 06, we lost power and figured then would be a good time to pull out my old childhood Canseco cards. I had a BLAST going through them for the first time in forever. SO much fun!

This must've sparked something, because I got heavy into collecting sets of my youth, delighted that they were so cheap. I then learned about game used and auto cards...DROOOOL! I went way, way, way overboard and decided to start selling. I found I could make money with cards and became a pseudo dealer / dealer wannabe over the next several years.

In 2013, I sold a TON and thought ... why not sell my childhood Canseco collection? I did. Months down the road, I thought - what if I could "do it right"? What if I had a checklist and went after what I didn't have instead of just stockpiling 1988 Donruss? From 2014-2018, I built something I was extremely proud of, but honestly, was like a treadmill for me. I was planning on purchasing a massive Canseco collection but had a feeling that maybe God didn't want me to take this plunge. This was *extremely* difficult for me, because I had been dreaming about doing this for a long time!

In the same breath, I decided to sell my collection - if I am not going to get this other collection and can't do anything "big" with my own, what am I doing? So I made the decision to sell out.

This happened in June 2018, iirc. I ended up selling pretty much everything off by the end of the year. It was freeing because I was no longer chomping at the bit for the weekly new checklists that came out. But I did miss some of the cards, so I kept some. Eventually I thought to myself, why not build up a nice base/base insert run to have as a "library"? Eventually, I decided to sell those because they didn't "spark joy" (LOL!) I remember just as I was selling out how Allen & Ginter came out with a glow in the dark card, and noticed how some of the cards I sold looked amazingly shiny and beautiful - something I hadn't noticed before when I only cared about checking off boxes.

Because of all this, I decided that I wanted to just collect what I wanted. A 95 Finest refractor Canseco? Awesome! 97 Flair Showcase Legacy? Yes please! A 1/1 just because it was stamped 1/1? Meh ... no thank you. Just cards I love. What about cards to complete a rainbow? Most of the time ... no. No "necessary" cards in my collection for me anymore. Just cards I love. There are some exceptions to the "no rainbow rule" I have as shown in the original post.
Overall, I'm extremely happy with everything - I've been fortunate enough to track down nearly all of the grail cards again, add a number of cards that I never had, and have a blast reliving the hunt all over again ... without stressing out about getting everything. It is much, much, much less time (and money) consuming! I used to get multiple cards a day. Now? I may not get one for a couple weeks.

You hit on the vintage thing - I used to dream about what I would do with the Canseco money if I ever did sell out. Could I get a Ruth? Mantle? Cobb? Wagner? Gahhh, wouldn't that be cool? Well, ultimately, that's what I did. ANNND ... I sold nearly all of that off again - on a whim, almost like I did my Canseco collection. The day before, I didn't have a thought in my mind to move it, but someone came to me and we worked out a deal. I had more regrets (initially) about it too ... more so than the Canseco sell off, which I didn't regret at all. I had a '52 Topps Mantle, '48 Leaf Jackie Robinson, '33 Goudey Ruth and many others. In typically Tanner fashion, the 1888 Allen & Ginter set I sold to the dealer, I ended up buying back. This happens often to me, haha.

Since then, it turns out the vintage sell off was a REALLY good thing, as I was able to build something even more amazing. I may do a post about them later, but I love what I have now a lot more. The vintage likely would have never happened had I not sold off my Canseco collection, so each big sell off was an extremely good thing.

Perhaps one of the intangible takeaways I got from all of this is how addicting this hobby can be. Being a supercollector can oftentimes sit on ebay, refreshing until your f5 key breaks. It is a huge financial committment that has been known to put a massive strain on relationships as well. Going through all of this has helped me to give good (I think, anyway!) advice to those who may be "in trouble" financially or relationship wise on a number of levels. Collecting never put a strain on us in any way, but I know many of whom it has, and I want to help those who need it that are in a tough situation. It may be a foreign concept to some people, but you can be in this hobby, be fully satisfied, and not have to dump loads of cash into it!

Currently, I sit having a collection that consists of Canseco and vintage (typically pre-war stuff) and I'm having a blast! So now, no one else has to buy my book, as that is my story. (Just kidding ... buy my book, people!) Anyway, that's where I'm currently at!

Skipscards
09-13-2020, 04:50 PM
Thanks for sharing and congrats! Now that’s a Canseco collection on steroids! (And I mean that in a good way)

JWBlue
09-13-2020, 05:22 PM
What brought you back?

ngs428
09-13-2020, 05:35 PM
Tanner, thanks for the “cliff notes” :)

I love your passion for the hobby, it truly shows! Continue having a blast with with the Canseco and vintage!

Browns1981
09-13-2020, 06:21 PM
Wow, amazing collection!

mouschi
09-13-2020, 08:03 PM
Thanks for sharing and congrats! Now that’s a Canseco collection on steroids! (And I mean that in a good way)

Haha, I like the sound of that, thanks!

What brought you back?

I'm not really sure I can quantify it to be honest! I am just drawn to cool cards of his. They bring me more joy than the coolest of vintage cards. I think at its heart, it is nostalgic purposes, but yeah ... I'm happy to be back collecting! (I have been for a while now, but this was a huge step.)

Tanner, thanks for the “cliff notes” :)

I love your passion for the hobby, it truly shows! Continue having a blast with with the Canseco and vintage!

My pleasure, and I appreciate your questions!

Wow, amazing collection!

Thank you Browns1981!

Melagoo
09-13-2020, 08:24 PM
Awesome Tanner! ... How did they feel when they handed over their collections? ... Glad to see you're so happy ... :)!:)!

mouschi
09-13-2020, 09:43 PM
Awesome Tanner! ... How did they feel when they handed over their collections? ... Glad to see you're so happy ... :)!:)!

Thanks! I've checked in with both multiple times (they are both friends of mine) and they are both very happy and have moved on. :)

mattglet
09-14-2020, 08:08 AM
Thanks! I've checked in with both multiple times (they are both friends of mine) and they are both very happy and have moved on. :)

Can confirm :)

I'm the "Matt" Tanner references. I had started out my collection in 2017 (when I got back into collecting in general) and dove straight into supercollector mode. Tanner and I got to know one another as a part of the Canseco community and I can't say enough about how much he helped me; I'm not just talking about getting cards from him, but also getting knowledge and info from him.

A few months ago, as Tanner said, I started thinking that I was getting bored with Jose, which on the surface seemed a little sad but as I dug deeper into the thought, it was definitely true. There were only a few "white whale" cards I had yet to procure and I realized that when/if that happened... then what? Although I wasn't at the same level of completion that Tanner was when he sold out, I found myself having the same feelings he did at that time.

Anyway, if there is anyone who should get my collection, it was Tanner. He is the biggest Canseco collector there has ever been and ever will be :) I've moved on to a couple of HoF related projects and I couldn't be happier. Oh, and my Riley Pint collection too lol.

Mandy1320
09-14-2020, 09:06 AM
Holy crap! With all of those patches, you could probably put together a jersey or two!

NarnM
09-14-2020, 09:12 AM
Congratulations. The more super collector collections I look at, the more I realize that we all have an illness, some of varying degrees.

mouschi
09-14-2020, 09:13 AM
Can confirm :)

I'm the "Matt" Tanner references. I had started out my collection in 2017 (when I got back into collecting in general) and dove straight into supercollector mode. Tanner and I got to know one another as a part of the Canseco community and I can't say enough about how much he helped me; I'm not just talking about getting cards from him, but also getting knowledge and info from him.

A few months ago, as Tanner said, I started thinking that I was getting bored with Jose, which on the surface seemed a little sad but as I dug deeper into the thought, it was definitely true. There were only a few "white whale" cards I had yet to procure and I realized that when/if that happened... then what? Although I wasn't at the same level of completion that Tanner was when he sold out, I found myself having the same feelings he did at that time.

Anyway, if there is anyone who should get my collection, it was Tanner. He is the biggest Canseco collector there has ever been and ever will be :) I've moved on to a couple of HoF related projects and I couldn't be happier. Oh, and my Riley Pint collection too lol.

Thank you for chiming in, Matt! It means a lot coming from you. I think we all know about the insane Riley Pint collection you've put together, but I'd love to see a visual of the other project(s) you've been building! I hope you plan on making a post on them.

1cleanjeep
09-14-2020, 10:35 AM
Beautiful collection! Thanks for sharing the story and pics!

Melagoo
09-14-2020, 09:24 PM
Thank you for chiming in, Matt! It means a lot coming from you. I think we all know about the insane Riley Pint collection you've put together, but I'd love to see a visual of the other project(s) you've been building! I hope you plan on making a post on them.

That is awesome! ... :flex:

RW3FAN
09-19-2020, 09:43 PM
Do you have this one?


https://sportscardalbum.com/c/8n8n608v.jpeg (https://sportscardalbum.com/card/8n8n608v/n-a)

mouschi
09-20-2020, 07:28 AM
Do you have this one?


https://sportscardalbum.com/c/8n8n608v.jpeg (https://sportscardalbum.com/card/8n8n608v/n-a)

Very cool card! I don't typically go after ip autos but thanks for showing!

RW3FAN
09-20-2020, 01:41 PM
Very cool card! I don't typically go after ip autos but thanks for showing!

I guess I missed that it was IP Auto.

YouTheManNick
09-20-2020, 01:50 PM
this is bananas in pajamas. well done

joserobles
09-20-2020, 02:01 PM
As I was reading your post, I must have been making weird noises cause was wife sitting next to me was like "are you OK?" " What are you looking?" " You better not be looking at..."

Impressed is not a strong enough word.
Congrats on the collection! Thanks for the breakdown and the story.
Love it!
I'm going to wipe off the drool now.

mouschi
09-20-2020, 03:51 PM
Much appreciated, gents! :)

creasecollector
10-08-2020, 11:54 PM
Another great show, Tanner! Your posts are stunning, as per usual. Glad you were able to land these for your (still) legendary Canseco collection!

Bhenry4
10-09-2020, 08:05 AM
Well done, Mouschi!!!!! Three cheers. Man, you must feel like you were run over by a truck. Enjoy and appreciate them all in some capacity over time. When you acquire that much at one time, it can be easy to take a few for granted. I can imagine that your personality won't allow that. Happy for you!

mouschi
10-09-2020, 08:12 AM
Another great show, Tanner! Your posts are stunning, as per usual. Glad you were able to land these for your (still) legendary Canseco collection!

Thank you very much!

Well done, Mouschi!!!!! Three cheers. Man, you must feel like you were run over by a truck. Enjoy and appreciate them all in some capacity over time. When you acquire that much at one time, it can be easy to take a few for granted. I can imagine that your personality won't allow that. Happy for you!

Thanks brother! It is funny that for years, you were Bhenry4 ... now you are a Facebook friend. Anyway, YES - you hit the nail on the head. When you get a ton of great stuff in at once, it is easy to gloss over some/several gems. That happened to me with a 1986 Donruss Highlights White Letter Canseco RC - it is by far his rarest rookie card, and very few know about it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EV1fuiUXgAEZRTJ?format=jpg

I bought a collection back in 2014 and this was in it. It took a few years for me to appreciate it, and I didn't fully appreciate it until I got it back a couple years ago!

To give you an idea of how tough these are, my collecting buddy RStadlerASU222 (I think that's his name here!) is a massive Will Clark supercollector. He is on the hunt for the Clark (PSST...If anyone out there has one, let me know and I'll connect you to him, or just reach out to him directly!) He bought 180 sets recently to find one ... here is what happened:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZIgLUJXsAExLYJ?format=png

Not a white letter to be found. 60 more sets were on the way and to my knowledge, he still hasn't found one!

Jgil316
10-09-2020, 09:21 AM
This is incredible!
THIS is what the hobby is all about - LOVE this collection and how you present it!!

Yankees2020
10-09-2020, 09:30 AM
Wow, this is crazy!!! Crazy good! I recently watched a baseball card documentary that he appeared in... I think he would get a kick out of seeing this collection.

1cleanjeep
10-09-2020, 09:46 AM
I sold a 2005 Diamond Kings Recollection Diamond King 1/1 auto back when I personally pulled it from a box...I guess that was in 2005 also. Hopefully that card is your collection. I sold it on eBay. Wish I still had a scan of it.

mouschi
10-09-2020, 11:03 AM
This is incredible!
THIS is what the hobby is all about - LOVE this collection and how you present it!!

Thanks! The pics took FOREVER to do, but it was well worth it. I really enjoyed it. There is no shortage of love I have for this hobby :)

Wow, this is crazy!!! Crazy good! I recently watched a baseball card documentary that he appeared in... I think he would get a kick out of seeing this collection.

I know exactly what you are talking about! Stu Stone is a buddy of mine. People were asking why I wasn't in it, but Stu and I didn't know each other when it was being made.

I'm not sure if you've seen/heard or not, but I know Jose and went over to his house with my family in 2015 and even landed on the cover of Beckett with him :) If ever you want more reading material, feel free to check it out here! https://tanmanbaseballfan.com/2015/05/chasing-canseco-best-day-ever-2.html

I sold a 2005 Diamond Kings Recollection Diamond King 1/1 auto back when I personally pulled it from a box...I guess that was in 2005 also. Hopefully that card is your collection. I sold it on eBay. Wish I still had a scan of it.

Man, that sounds like a great card! Sadly no, it wasn't me. Thanks for thinking of me though :)

Yankees2020
10-09-2020, 01:17 PM
Thanks! The pics took FOREVER to do, but it was well worth it. I really enjoyed it. There is no shortage of love I have for this hobby :)



I know exactly what you are talking about! Stu Stone is a buddy of mine. People were asking why I wasn't in it, but Stu and I didn't know each other when it was being made.

I'm not sure if you've seen/heard or not, but I know Jose and went over to his house with my family in 2015 and even landed on the cover of Beckett with him :) If ever you want more reading material, feel free to check it out here! https://tanmanbaseballfan.com/2015/05/chasing-canseco-best-day-ever-2.html



Man, that sounds like a great card! Sadly no, it wasn't me. Thanks for thinking of me though :)

Whoa, now that's SICK!!!! In his house?! How did you meet? How did it come up for him to invite you to his house? Does he know about these two collections you bought? If so, what are his thoughts? I'm absolutely going to read the article you shared, thank you!

No, I haven't heard about you and Stu. Thats pretty sweet as well. Please tell him to make another movie :D only this time make it even better, and talk more about cards. I need it, I want it! haha

mouschi
10-09-2020, 01:52 PM
Whoa, now that's SICK!!!! In his house?! How did you meet? How did it come up for him to invite you to his house? Does he know about these two collections you bought? If so, what are his thoughts? I'm absolutely going to read the article you shared, thank you!

No, I haven't heard about you and Stu. Thats pretty sweet as well. Please tell him to make another movie :D only this time make it even better, and talk more about cards. I need it, I want it! haha

Most all of those questions are in the article ... heck, after you read it, you'll probably know more about it than I remember! :p

As for him knowing about the collections, no he doesn't. He isn't really a card guy, but we do have mutual friends where they show him my work from time to time and I'm blessed to be able to hear what he thinks!

beyondheat
10-10-2020, 04:52 PM
I just want to thank you for sharing your stories and your photos. It is something that gets even a veteran collector's adrenaline pumping. It's a throwback to the era of deep collecting of the player that inspires you, regardless of what anyone else thinks. And where a quick flip for profit is the last thing on your mind.

mouschi
10-10-2020, 10:28 PM
I just want to thank you for sharing your stories and your photos. It is something that gets even a veteran collector's adrenaline pumping. It's a throwback to the era of deep collecting of the player that inspires you, regardless of what anyone else thinks. And where a quick flip for profit is the last thing on your mind.


That's what I like to hear! I know there is a lot of concern over who has interest in the hobby now, but man... if they only knew how awesome this hobby is beyond merely flipping, this hobby would really explode.

creasecollector
10-10-2020, 10:52 PM
I just want to thank you for sharing your stories and your photos. It is something that gets even a veteran collector's adrenaline pumping. It's a throwback to the era of deep collecting of the player that inspires you, regardless of what anyone else thinks. And where a quick flip for profit is the last thing on your mind.

True that, my dude. I think many of us feel the same way when reading Tanner's posts.

PSA2Pac
10-11-2020, 04:41 AM
Wow. Dope read man!

wcardguy
10-11-2020, 12:17 PM
This article/collection is insane and amazing.

I saw Jose in an elevator one time in the city I used to live in. He was with a girl who was probably ~25 years old, and was just all over her. It was just the three of us and they're basically making out the whole time. Long ride, too, 30+ story building. I wanted to tell him hey, I used to watch you when I was a kid. Collected all your baseball cards. Didn't seem like the right moment though.

mouschi
10-11-2020, 02:44 PM
Wow. Dope read man!

Thanks!

This article/collection is insane and amazing.

I saw Jose in an elevator one time in the city I used to live in. He was with a girl who was probably ~25 years old, and was just all over her. It was just the three of us and they're basically making out the whole time. Long ride, too, 30+ story building. I wanted to tell him hey, I used to watch you when I was a kid. Collected all your baseball cards. Didn't seem like the right moment though.

Ha! Man that would have been awkward. How long ago was this?