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unclemonkey
09-17-2020, 10:12 PM
How many players have had RC's from two different teams?

Which would be the non auto RC to pursue?

Does it devalue the Twins auto?

texmcpherson
09-17-2020, 10:15 PM
Off the top of my head:

Yoan Moancada
Austin Meadows

hoos
09-17-2020, 10:15 PM
How many players have had RC's from two different teams?

Which would be the non auto RC to pursue?

Does it devalue the Twins auto?

Meadows is one of the recent bigger ones

Hollywood42
09-17-2020, 10:24 PM
Especially funny because he has RCs on 2 different teams within the same set- Topps Chrome base is Dodgers but autos are Twins. Pretty weird situation compared to a few other guys that have had one team in S1 and a different in Update or something like that

Edit to add- makes for an awkward situation as a team collector. I like Brusdar so I'll still pick up some of his Twins cards here and there, but it's weird for sure

How many players have had RC's from two different teams?

Which would be the non auto RC to pursue?

Does it devalue the Twins auto?

unclemonkey
09-17-2020, 10:30 PM
Guess I will be buying Chrome, Bowman, and Update... lol

packbusta
09-17-2020, 10:36 PM
Biased Dodger Fan checking in--

Finest Flashbacks
Topps S2 Photo Variation
Stadium Club

Prefer an actual Dodger photo, not the Photoshops.

sbfinley
09-17-2020, 11:04 PM
Trayce Thompson is another one that comes to mind.

dream34
09-17-2020, 11:09 PM
Besides the cards mentioned already...

Reynaldo Lopez
Francisco Mejia
Jake Bauers

LVDan
09-17-2020, 11:21 PM
Arozarena too


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Maxcd
09-18-2020, 04:02 AM
I'm very interested in what they do with Trent Grisham this year. His S1 is as a Brewer but his Chrome and Opening Day are the exact same photo with it being photoshopped as a Padre. Not sure if they give him a new image in Update as a Padre

base set
09-18-2020, 05:37 AM
Didi Gregorious is another


I think the Stadium Club card for Graterol is an authentic photo

Arozarena had a Tampa insert in S2 but was back on the Cardinals in Chrome. The back of that card is a bit of a mess.

Einstein43
09-18-2020, 06:33 AM
Thanks f we are talking about the rc logo probably not a lot but eloy Jimenez has his first bowman w/ cubs of course and Sox as rc ... talk about same town lol

Raleigh504
09-18-2020, 07:30 AM
Banda (a pitcher) had two rookie cards from two teams... Only know that cause I hit a # card of his (I think in 2018)

bgildersleeve
09-18-2020, 08:45 AM
Speaking of Brusdar I pulled a superfractor 1/1 2018 Bowman Chrome of his almost two years ago. Anyone have idea of the value? I never got it graded but 1/1 and just been sitting in a toploader in a drawer straight from the pack.

D-Lite
09-18-2020, 10:14 AM
Tauchman. Two teams, two years, two RC

D-Lite
09-18-2020, 10:20 AM
Also, maybe I’m the only one, but I can’t help but think Burton Guster when I see Brusdar Graterol.

http://www.sharegif.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/first-bumppsychshawn-spencerburton-gusterjames-rodaydule-hill.gif

AnthonyT
09-18-2020, 10:28 AM
Im pretty sure Justus Sheffield has 2 RC cards, 2019 S1 and Update; yankees and mariners.

unclemonkey
09-18-2020, 10:30 AM
Speaking of Brusdar I pulled a superfractor 1/1 2018 Bowman Chrome of his almost two years ago. Anyone have idea of the value? I never got it graded but 1/1 and just been sitting in a toploader in a drawer straight from the pack.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

NewLondonWhaler
09-18-2020, 10:38 AM
Arozarena too


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That Topps chrome auto of his is a great looking card though


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LVDan
09-18-2020, 11:06 AM
That Topps chrome auto of his is a great looking card though


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Agreed. Just bought my 1st one last night.
His pricing over winter will be super dependent on performance through their playoff run. Not sure if I want to see a big breakout or not tbh. He’s toolsy af!


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unclemonkey
09-18-2020, 11:32 AM
Just stocking up on base and refractors.

Blew half way thru my $1000 budget by picking up non auto reds, Bowman breaks, and some lots on Ebay.

Shooting for about $2 on average.

LVDan
09-18-2020, 11:37 AM
I love his arm but not sure about how they plan to use him in the future. At this point he seems as likely as any to succeed Jansen as closer. But if they decide to let him start next year he could be special too. I guess it will depend on the development of his off speed offerings.


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ucLAkers
09-18-2020, 12:59 PM
I love his arm but not sure about how they plan to use him in the future. At this point he seems as likely as any to succeed Jansen as closer. But if they decide to let him start next year he could be special too. I guess it will depend on the development of his off speed offerings.


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I almost see him replacing Baez 7/8 and Baez closer in 2021

Next year will be

May
Urias
Buehler
Gonsolin
(Price?)
Kershaw?

LVDan
09-18-2020, 01:08 PM
I almost see him replacing Baez 7/8 and Baez closer in 2021

Next year will be

May
Urias
Buehler
Gonsolin
(Price?)
Kershaw?


Makes sense. I’m not adverse to buying up RPs as long as the intention is clear to make them a starter(like Corbin Burnes) but I haven’t heard any of that on Graterol.


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ucLAkers
09-18-2020, 01:12 PM
Makes sense. I’m not adverse to buying up RPs as long as the intention is clear to make them a starter(like Corbin Burnes) but I haven’t heard any of that on Graterol.


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It really all depends on Kershaw and whatever happens to Price I think. He could potentially take the Ross Stripling role and start sometimes? Almost like game 3 in SD, but that was strange and May came in late.
No matter what...Gonsolin is the starter to collect & hold. He is way under the radar vs Buehler 2018 prices.

LVDan
09-18-2020, 01:18 PM
It really all depends on Kershaw and whatever happens to Price I think. He could potentially take the Ross Stripling role and start sometimes? Almost like game 3 in SD, but that was strange and May came in late.
No matter what...Gonsolin is the starter to collect & hold. He is way under the radar vs Buehler 2018 prices.

Ive got Urias.:confused:
But looks like it may take awhile, if ever.

NYBBFAN
11-30-2020, 07:19 PM
I put together a small stash.

~150 or so base, ~75 chromes and a bunch of very inexpensive S1 parallels

https://gallery.us175.com/pics/resized/1200x750/Brusdar%20Graterol/IMG5014.heic.jpg

https://gallery.us175.com/pics/resized/1200x750/Brusdar%20Graterol/IMG5012.heic.jpg

calcoach2103
11-30-2020, 07:55 PM
Cool collection...and I say that as a Pads fan who wanted to rip the smile off his face after Tatis got robbed of the blast.

packbusta
11-30-2020, 08:14 PM
The photoshopped cards just kill me. One picture used on three different cards, with two different team, three different jerseys. The photos they used for stadium club, finest, and Topps photo variation is so much better.

Dodgerfan74
11-30-2020, 11:33 PM
Dodger fan collecting Gonsolin, May, Urias, and Graterol

Davidellias
12-01-2020, 01:43 AM
The photoshopped cards just kill me. One picture used on three different cards, with two different team, three different jerseys. The photos they used for stadium club, finest, and Topps photo variation is so much better.

This isn't the first year they've done this

https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/182808/cid/13161177/2019-Topps-550-Adam-Cimber

https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/189194/cid/12831814/2019-Topps-Gypsy-Queen-183-Adam-Cimber

Pretty sure these two were taken in a sequence just a couple of frames apart yet Topps photoshopped the socks...

whitmm
12-01-2020, 09:57 AM
This isn't the first year they've done this

https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/182808/cid/13161177/2019-Topps-550-Adam-Cimber

https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/189194/cid/12831814/2019-Topps-Gypsy-Queen-183-Adam-Cimber

Pretty sure these two were taken in a sequence just a couple of frames apart yet Topps photoshopped the socks...

Don't think so. You missed that one jersey says "Cleveland" and one says "Indians"

NYBBFAN
12-01-2020, 10:31 AM
Cool collection...and I say that as a Pads fan who wanted to rip the smile off his face after Tatis got robbed of the blast.

Thanks! Acquired most of it before the playoffs, so I didn’t spend an arm and a leg.

eye4talent
12-01-2020, 10:44 AM
Jose Cruz Jr. is the first player I remember having rookie cards on two different teams. In 1997 appeared as both a Mariner and a Blue Jay.


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packbusta
12-01-2020, 11:56 AM
This isn't the first year they've done this

https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/182808/cid/13161177/2019-Topps-550-Adam-Cimber

https://www.tcdb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/189194/cid/12831814/2019-Topps-Gypsy-Queen-183-Adam-Cimber

Pretty sure these two were taken in a sequence just a couple of frames apart yet Topps photoshopped the socks...

Long history of PS/airbrush use at Topps. Lazy to me when you have two cards in the same series (Graterol Series 2) with different pictures.

Davidellias
12-01-2020, 12:00 PM
Don't think so. You missed that one jersey says "Cleveland" and one says "Indians"

Thats also photoshopped I believe.

If you look at background it's basically the same, I do think these pics were taken, a few frames apart in a sequence.

whitmm
12-01-2020, 12:23 PM
Thats also photoshopped I believe.

If you look at background it's basically the same, I do think these pics were taken, a few frames apart in a sequence.

The wall is the same, but the blurred fans don't match up. The undershirt on the flagship looks tighter, his hair looks different lengths. The angle also looks slightly different. There's also the white piping on one jersey and the other has a patch on the sleeve. I get that the companies can be lazy and use the same pictures a lot. But to take a photo from a string of them a few frames apart and do that much photoshopping seems like even a stretch for them. I'm sure there's 100's of frame by frame sets of pictures that look almost identical. I think it's the styling of the GQ that makes it look edited. I just can't give a company that much credit to go to those extremes to change a card, it's not like he changed teams. And it's not a Panini issue where they have to edit out all logos.

NYBBFAN
10-21-2021, 10:39 PM
Bump for Graterol :)

https://gallery.us175.com/pics/resized/600x375/Brusdar%20Graterol/img438.jpg

https://gallery.us175.com/pics/resized/600x375/Brusdar%20Graterol/img437.jpg

gmarutiak
10-22-2021, 08:47 AM
In all my years of watching baseball, I've never seen someone throw 100+ mph so effortlessly. I always enjoy watching him pitch.

mnvikingstwins
10-22-2021, 09:08 AM
Have 2 of these, 1 regular refractor flashbacks PSA 10, raw sapphire orange RC, BC true gold auto PSA 10, and handful of base autos
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Y-8AAOSwf89hU7ql/s-l500.jpg

The Accountant
10-22-2021, 09:09 AM
Sold my sapphire RC of him for like 2 dollars a couple years back

mnvikingstwins
10-22-2021, 09:10 AM
In all my years of watching baseball, I've never seen someone throw 100+ mph so effortlessly. I always enjoy watching him pitch.

Too bad Sports Science isn't it's own show now, he'd be perfect to put pressure sensors and everything on. Looks like he does a lot of power pushing off rubber but also that he could improve his delivery and throw 105

jduds
10-22-2021, 09:26 AM
It really all depends on Kershaw and whatever happens to Price I think. He could potentially take the Ross Stripling role and start sometimes? Almost like game 3 in SD, but that was strange and May came in late.
No matter what...Gonsolin is the starter to collect & hold. He is way under the radar vs Buehler 2018 prices.

Buehler is the same age with vastly superior stats. I like Gonsolin, but there's just not enough there to say he's undervalued yet. Urias is still undervalued though given his performance this year.

base set
10-22-2021, 09:34 AM
I’m just waiting for Topps Big League / Nicknames insert.

Looks to me like the Topps Chrome RC would be the one to have.

towerymt
10-22-2021, 09:43 AM
Deleted pic edit

base set
10-22-2021, 09:53 AM
On second thought - where did that TC RC with the “00” uni # come from, anyway? BBRef doesn’t confirm that as ever having happened in a game.

towerymt
10-22-2021, 10:32 AM
On second thought - where did that TC RC with the “00” uni # come from, anyway? BBRef doesn’t confirm that as ever having happened in a game.
Good catch. Appears to be the in-between updated version of that photo, before they knew he would wear #48?

Twins original image:
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/brusdar-graterol-of-the-minnesota-twins-pitches-against-the-news-photo/1178249021

base set
10-22-2021, 10:44 AM
I pulled a copy of the Topps Chrome and just thought the 00 added to the charm of this player. Seeing the other photoshopped versions use #48 intrigued me enough to click around on the idea a little.

NYBBFAN
10-22-2021, 12:07 PM
In all my years of watching baseball, I've never seen someone throw 100+ mph so effortlessly. I always enjoy watching him pitch.

I’ve been explaining that to my son during the playoffs. I’ve never seen someone appear to throw 100+ with such ease. It was the entire reason I picked up his cards. I believe one day he’ll be a closer for the Dodgers, or some other team lucky enough to scoop him up.

WizardofOz1982
10-22-2021, 01:45 PM
In all my years of watching baseball, I've never seen someone throw 100+ mph so effortlessly. I always enjoy watching him pitch.

Aroldis Chapman pre injury. Joel Zumaya before the elbow exploded. Hopefully Graterol doesn't end up down that same path.

NYBBFAN
11-12-2022, 06:36 PM
Graterol is cheap and fun to collect. #'d to 5!

https://gallery.us175.com/pics/resized/600x375/Brusdar%20Graterol/scan0095.jpg

pewe
11-12-2022, 06:59 PM
Graterol is cheap and fun to collect. #'d to 5!

https://gallery.us175.com/pics/resized/600x375/Brusdar%20Graterol/scan0095.jpg


What product is “celebration of the decade” stamp?


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NYBBFAN
11-12-2022, 07:06 PM
What product is “celebration of the decade” stamp?


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https://www.beckett.com/news/2020-topps-chrome-celebration-of-the-decades-baseball-checklist-team-set-lists-and-details/

Refractors are the only parallel and are /5

pewe
11-12-2022, 08:31 PM
https://www.beckett.com/news/2020-topps-chrome-celebration-of-the-decades-baseball-checklist-team-set-lists-and-details/

Refractors are the only parallel and are /5


Wow - thanks for the details. I completely missed this release before. Very cool!


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unclemonkey
11-12-2022, 11:11 PM
Still holding onto my stash.

Maybe he becomes the closer and racks up 400 as a LAD

NYBBFAN
11-13-2022, 07:12 AM
^^ that’s exactly what I’m hoping.

NYBBFAN
10-26-2024, 08:39 AM
Time to flex on you nerds.

https://inv.us175.com/pub-files/IMG_0640.JPG

https://inv.us175.com/pub-files/IMG_0641.JPG

https://inv.us175.com/pub-files/IMG_0642.JPG

towerymt
10-26-2024, 11:15 AM
https://pbase.com/towerymt/image/174991790.jpg