View Full Version : Mosaic herbert vs 2020 prizm
oaklandasfan
11-27-2020, 02:32 PM
Mosaic appears to be heading to $45 base.Base for prizm is nuts.like the mosaic better ,,thoughts please.And whats a good price for both ..thx guys.
RustyDawg37
11-27-2020, 03:05 PM
I like Mosaic better
oaklandasfan
11-27-2020, 03:07 PM
I like Mosaic better
Agreed
oaklandasfan
11-28-2020, 12:28 PM
So far on ebay way off centered herbert oh my
DustyDog
11-28-2020, 12:45 PM
Mosaic to me is a very cheap, basic design. It does not even hold a candle to Prizm quality and price wise.
This. Have had multiple chances to buy retail and pass everytime. Prizm for me all day
RustyDawg37
11-28-2020, 12:53 PM
Mosaic to me is a very cheap, basic design. It does not even hold a candle to Prizm quality and price wise.
I don't agree with any of that lol. All the prizm that I have seen being busted is way too off center overall to make it a buy to rip, or a group break buyin. Singles only fellas on Prizm, trust me.
But I actually just dislike the Herbert prizm photo. Another thing I have taken into consideration with the wild prices these days. How does the photo hold up? I actually really like the prizm design this year and was considering at least buying one wax until I started watching breaks. Hopefully hobby does not look like that.
I also am not a fan of all the ten million parallels, in either product.
TheFrenzy
11-28-2020, 01:05 PM
Ironically, even though it's his college uni, the Prizm Draft card looks better than both.
https://i.imgur.com/QCyam1e.png?1
https://i.imgur.com/YLkqbCv.png?1
https://i.imgur.com/FPlcdQP.png?1
jasonm2121
11-28-2020, 02:25 PM
I can understand someone thinking Mosaic is a basic design, but you really think Prizm is not? They are most basic designs every year. At least mosaic pops more with colors.
Bob Ross
11-28-2020, 02:27 PM
Always Prizm.
RustyDawg37
11-28-2020, 02:47 PM
Ironically, even though it's his college uni, the Prizm Draft card looks better than both.
https://i.imgur.com/QCyam1e.png?1
https://i.imgur.com/cT8scP1.png?1
https://i.imgur.com/FPlcdQP.png?1
You got the wrong pic, thats not his mosaic RC. Agree the debut pic is worse than draft though.
TheFrenzy
11-28-2020, 03:03 PM
You got the wrong pic, thats not his mosaic RC. Agree the debut pic is worse than draft though.
Fixed.
The base RC is actually even worse looking than the Debut!
RustyDawg37
11-28-2020, 03:43 PM
maybe i just hate white jerseys lol
Fixed.
The base RC is actually even worse looking than the Debut!
Draft Picks is so ugly.
TheFrenzy
11-28-2020, 04:19 PM
Draft Picks is so ugly.
Most seasons: yes
This season: no
Timmyftblstar54
11-28-2020, 05:54 PM
Even though Prizm will hold a higher value, I like mosaic much better.
cincybearcats1
11-28-2020, 06:01 PM
Select has entered the chat.
This is the year the Select field level becomes the goat.
oaklandasfan
11-28-2020, 06:38 PM
Be careful most prizm herberts are way off center to the right ,,
Most seasons: yes
This season: no
https://media4.giphy.com/media/MPuTZQqOmYKPK/200.gif
psd2k10
11-28-2020, 06:53 PM
I think mosaic wins this battle.
Birdanski
11-28-2020, 07:08 PM
Be careful most prizm herberts are way off center to the right ,,
I can attest to this...LOL
SDcardguy24
11-28-2020, 07:25 PM
I like the Mosaic base rookie but then again, I have always been a fan of the powder blue Bolts jerseys.
This year's Prizm reminds me of Select so now I'm curious about Select.
RustyDawg37
11-28-2020, 10:01 PM
I like the prizm design, but the off centeredness and price make it a no bust for me
ArmyDC
11-28-2020, 10:11 PM
Mosaic, DP and Prizm.. oof that prizm
starfox
11-29-2020, 06:44 AM
I remember years ago when more than a few dissed Prizm. It eventually became a hit within 4 years or so. Mosaic can definitely do the same.
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Comparing the top NBA rookies for Prizm/Mosaic
Zion:
Prizm Base: $160
Prizm Silver: $800
Mosaic Base: $30
Mosaic Silver: $340
Prizm Base to Mosaic base: 5.3x
Prizm Silver to Mosaic Silver: 2.35x
Prizm multipliers for Silver is 5x
Mosaic multipliers for Silver is 11.5x
Morant:
Prizm Base: $110
Prizm Silver: $600
Mosaic Base: $22
Mosaic Silver: $220
Prizm Base to Mosaic base: 5x
Prizm Silver to Mosaic Silver: 2.7x
Prizm multipliers for Silver is 5.5x
Mosaic multipliers for Silver is 10x
So if you extrapolate out for football based on Herbert's Mosaic prices, the equilibrium price should settle in the range of $150~ for Prizm base and $770-800 for Prizm Silvers.
Herbert:
Prizm Base: $150~
Prizm Silver: $770-800~
Mosaic Base: $30
Mosaic Silver: $350
Prizm multipliers for Silver should be around 5.25x
Mosaic multipliers for Silver is 11.6 (almost the exact same as Zion)
The first Herbert Silver sold for $1,375 which should settle over the next few weeks when supply kicks in to mid to upper $700's. I've tried this for lower players in NFL/NBA and the math typically lines up for the next tier of players as well.
bloodwings19
11-29-2020, 11:42 AM
Mosaic > Prizm in design. Value- Prizm > Mosaic. Prizm looks like an insert than a base card. Liking the Emergent design.
NYYsavages2599
11-29-2020, 04:44 PM
Mosaic parallels (w/ the actual mosaic design) > Prizm base > Mosaic base for me. The mosaic base cards look way too dull.
yanksfan1
12-02-2020, 02:30 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Psa-10-GEM-MINT-Justin-Herbert-2020-Mosaic-Reactive-Gold-Prizm-204-Chargers-/154201751277?nma=true&si=SxvIok%252F3N8j3EL9xNmA%252F9ifr7xc%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Was this a legit sale? Seems like it had to be shilled. $1650 for a mosaic gold reactive PSA 10? I've got one ungraded but if they're going for that much now I'll express it tomorrow
ld8759
12-02-2020, 03:40 PM
I remember years ago when more than a few dissed Prizm. It eventually became a hit within 4 years or so. Mosaic can definitely do the same.
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Wasn't Prizm supposed to be Panini's answer to Topps Chrome? That could be why people dissed Prizm,until Topps lost their NFL license.
Mosaic appears to be heading to $45 base.Base for prizm is nuts.like the mosaic better ,,thoughts please.And whats a good price for both ..thx guys.
Are you wanting to buy as a collector or are you looking to 'invest' (I hated typing that)?
Mosaic if you love the card, the look, the design. Prizm is you want to eventually sell it on for a profit (maybe).
Rivalsjp
12-02-2020, 08:53 PM
Wasn't Prizm supposed to be Panini's answer to Topps Chrome? That could be why people dissed Prizm,until Topps lost their NFL license.
Yes it was. Still waiting on it to be anywhere near the quality of TC. Most people I know prefer the look of Optic over Prizm. Prisms popularity stems from two primary things, the “replacement” to TC and it grades better than Optic. It’s never been as good as TC and this year the second point may be changing. Prizm isn’t going anywhere, but brushing off the fact that Mosaic or Optic can’t overtake it is short sighted. Not saying it will, but Prizm has only been really popular for a very short time which was highlighted earlier in the thread.
notfast
12-02-2020, 08:57 PM
Prizm will always be king but Mosaic will have its place. Especially being the first year in football.
Select is somewhere in the middle of the two.
This isn’t reinventing the wheel nor will it change any time soon.
blackbears86
12-02-2020, 09:18 PM
Prizm will always be king but Mosaic will have its place. Especially being the first year in football.
Select is somewhere in the middle of the two.
This isn’t reinventing the wheel nor will it change any time soon.
YES.
People can pump mosaic all they want, but prizm is the king.
and don't forget about optic.
Rivalsjp
12-02-2020, 09:19 PM
Prizm will always be king but Mosaic will have its place. Especially being the first year in football.
Select is somewhere in the middle of the two.
This isn’t reinventing the wheel nor will it change any time soon.
Maybe, but Prizms been king for what, three, maybe four years? Prizm is an inferior knockoff of TC. Let Panini put out another year or two of Prizm with centering like we’re seeing and Mosaic have another strong year or two and that gap could erode pretty quickly.
blackbears86
12-02-2020, 09:31 PM
Maybe, but Prizms been king for what, three, maybe four years? Prizm is an inferior knockoff of TC. Let Panini put out another year or two of Prizm with centering like we’re seeing and Mosaic have another strong year or two and that gap could erode pretty quickly.
Sure prizm is an inferior knockoff of topps chrome, so where does that leave mosaic?
We have this argument every year with prizm, except usually it's optic vs. prizm. Now mosaic has entered the mix and it's mosaic vs. prizm.
and this year, the results will be the same value wise. Calling it now.
1. Prizm
2. Optic
3. Mosaic
let me be clear: Value wise, not looks wise.
Sure prizm is an inferior knockoff of topps chrome, so where does that leave mosaic?
We have this argument every year with prizm, except usually it's optic vs. prizm. Now mosaic has entered the mix and it's mosaic vs. prizm.
and this year, the results will be the same value wise. Calling it now.
1. Prizm
2. Optic
3. Mosaic
let me be clear: Value wise, not looks wise.
Where would you put Select? No.4?
blackbears86
12-02-2020, 10:52 PM
Where would you put Select? No.4?
I'd put select actually above prizm, (I love select) but it's hobby only, which limits it's exposure.
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