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DolphinsDaniel
12-28-2020, 11:45 AM
Does anyone care about this product? I haven't seen anyone talking about it but there's less than 800 boxes if I did my math right. Seems like one of the most limited releases we will have.
I don't actually want any but just surprised no one has said anything ab it since it's on the site right now.
bustsomewax
12-28-2020, 12:17 PM
Wondering the same thing. I personally think it's about $250-$500 too expensive.
Compared to NT Collegiate which hit the floor at $500 and is barely profitable to flip, yes this is at least $500 overpriced. Probably more than that.
Brobocop
12-28-2020, 12:24 PM
I can't even add one to my cart, hard to care about a product I can't even buy if I wanted to.
My math suggests production run is not less than 950 boxes, based on the checklist and that there are 2 Gem cards per box.
The problem is there is relatively low demand for Collegiate licensed products compared to NBA licensed products AND this year's draft class is weaker than last year's...
Does anyone care about this product? I haven't seen anyone talking about it but there's less than 800 boxes if I did my math right. Seems like one of the most limited releases we will have.
I don't actually want any but just surprised no one has said anything ab it since it's on the site right now.
Promethius88
12-28-2020, 12:39 PM
I think it is overpriced, even at the floor. That being said, there has been sneaky high demand for the top players in the Prizm Draft Picks product. I've sold several autos in the $200-300 range and still sitting on a stack of others. I think the demand for those most likely drops when non-collegiate stuff hits the market but for now it is surprisingly strong.
Can't say if that will translate into decent singles prices for this stuff, though.
Mahomie
12-28-2020, 12:42 PM
The problem is there is relatively low demand for Collegiate licensed products.
I'm the exact type of college clector who would love to spend money on a product like this, but the price is too astronomically high.
Hopefully Panini gets the message soon...
Chris P
12-28-2020, 12:44 PM
Compared to NT Collegiate which hit the floor at $500 and is barely profitable to flip, yes this is at least $500 overpriced. Probably more than that.
My NT break was very successful, I bought two boxes and I'm already up 750 bucks after fees and still have
Wiseman Auto Patch Silhouette to 35
Herro Jersey Patch Printing Plate #1/1
Saddiq Bey Auto Nike Patch #1/1
Okoro Auto/Under Armour Patch Booklet # to 5
Rui Patch numbered to 10
Devin Dotson RPA to 35
Brandon Clarke Auto Patch Silhouette numbered to 5
KAT Base
Chris P
12-28-2020, 12:46 PM
I think it is overpriced, even at the floor. That being said, there has been sneaky high demand for the top players in the Prizm Draft Picks product. I've sold several autos in the $200-300 range and still sitting on a stack of others. I think the demand for those most likely drops when non-collegiate stuff hits the market but for now it is surprisingly strong.
Can't say if that will translate into decent singles prices for this stuff, though.
I've done well on Panini Prizms Draft Picks as well. I spent about $550 on retail and am about $10 from breaking even while still keeping all my LeMelo, Wiseman, Devi, and Anthony Edwards Color plus a Zion Downtown. Also still have lots of some of the lottery picks for sale so I'll easily get my money back from what I spent plus get to keep stuff for the PC and I didn't pull one decent auto since it was all retail lol
Supercomputers
12-28-2020, 12:52 PM
Should hit floor but I think its a winner there. These Collegiate products starting to pick up steam now that guys are playing.
anm2231
12-28-2020, 12:57 PM
I think most of the rookies not being off to an exciting start has something to do with it...I know its only 2-3 games so far, but I havent seen anything exciting yet...some decent outings by Edwards
jetscollector10
12-28-2020, 01:00 PM
Bought one at the floor.
anm2231
12-28-2020, 01:01 PM
shows how bad it is when it still adds to cart at the floor....
PrinceVegeta
12-28-2020, 01:03 PM
two at the floor its decent value imo
Peachcardsatl
12-28-2020, 01:04 PM
I think a lot of people don’t realize it’s even available since it was never in trending products on first page.
Picking some up at the floor. No other chance to get a flawless product for basketball at this price
fenwaykid
12-28-2020, 01:07 PM
Does panini pull these from the sale after 5 minutes at the floor? Find it hard to believe they just fully sold out that quick.
bustsomewax
12-28-2020, 01:10 PM
Does panini pull these from the sale after 5 minutes at the floor? Find it hard to believe they just fully sold out that quick.
I think so...I'm usually more bullish on college products than most, but this one feels like a loser. I hope I'm wrong for those that bought at the floor though.
Promethius88
12-28-2020, 01:11 PM
Does panini pull these from the sale after 5 minutes at the floor? Find it hard to believe they just fully sold out that quick.
Thinking so. I had a couple in the cart to grab at the floor and had to grab something from the microwave. Forgot about it and gone.
I am guessing this product will do well, at least until the NBA products are released. This assumes the performance of the rookies improve as the season progresses.
I passed on this product and will wait for NBA product releases.
Good Luck! to those that will open.
IntergalacticSp
12-28-2020, 01:13 PM
Got one at the floor but will probably end up holding it for a while. Can't wait to see how the first breaks look.
Tonic3
12-28-2020, 01:24 PM
Anything at the floor is a safe bet. Nobody could buy them cheaper and nobody is going to sell at a loss. It’s not always about making thousands on every box but these should be a fine “investment” at the bottom.
Asian62150
12-28-2020, 01:28 PM
Agree about buying at the floor. Especially as an online exclusive. Nice job to those that got some! I forgot about it.
Anything at the floor is a safe bet. Nobody could buy them cheaper and nobody is going to sell at a loss. It’s not always about making thousands on every box but these should be a fine “investment” at the bottom.
Some are letting Immaculate Collegiate go at a losing price (after fees) and Blowout is currently offering $50 under floor.
NT is doing a little better but still tough to even make 10% flipping.
Fortunately at $500 both were much better rips than flips, so people who bought to open seem to be generally happy. Don't see that being the case with Flawless at 2.5 times the price (or more with tax). No reason to think the content value will be that much better.
tolrobb
12-28-2020, 01:37 PM
unless someone decides to take a loss for some unkown reason, these will never be offered lower than the floor. good buy there imo, i only got 1 but thinking about it now, should have grabbed a case.
Mahomie
12-28-2020, 01:52 PM
Some are letting Immaculate Collegiate go at a losing price (after fees) and Blowout is currently offering $50 under floor.
NT is doing a little better but still tough to even make 10% flipping.
Fortunately at $500 both were much better rips than flips, so people who bought to open seem to be generally happy. Don't see that being the case with Flawless at 2.5 times the price (or more with tax). No reason to think the content value will be that much better.
These were my thoughts, but I do hope that whoever bought in gets a nice return one way or another.
coltsnsox07
12-28-2020, 03:28 PM
No Zion, not buyin.
Or Ja.
Peachcardsatl
12-28-2020, 03:54 PM
Very early but Wiseman, Edwards and Halliburton look very good early which should help values. We will have to see on Ball and others but I think this class will be better than people may have expected a couple months ago.
773cards
12-28-2020, 04:43 PM
All nba products got pushed back to February. These will be just fine IMO.
PrinceVegeta
12-30-2020, 11:57 PM
Anyone open yet? Mine says delivery tomorrow
jetscollector10
12-31-2020, 08:49 AM
my box is due in today, but still no fedex update that it is out for delivery. Can't wait!
jetscollector10
12-31-2020, 12:05 PM
arrived! Top card, probably the biggest hit of my life.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50784001737_21e29cb17e_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2knBhqR)edwards (https://flic.kr/p/2knBhqR) by Jon Glickhouse (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146778375@N08/), on Flickr
leewei
12-31-2020, 12:13 PM
arrived! Top card, probably the biggest hit of my life.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50784001737_21e29cb17e_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2knBhqR)edwards (https://flic.kr/p/2knBhqR) by Jon Glickhouse (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146778375@N08/), on Flickr
Whoa congrats!! That's huge! Curious on the other hits. Expecting a case myself.
leewei
12-31-2020, 12:13 PM
Whoa congrats!! That's huge! Curious on the other hits. Expecting a case myself.
Also surprised there's no RC logo
Jstratton
12-31-2020, 02:53 PM
Just opened two briefcases ... will try to get pics updated but some pretty big hits ---
lamelo star swatch RPA /20
trae young patch auto /10
deni rpa /10
wiseman encased auto /10
saddiq bey rpa 1/1
cassius winston 1/1 relic
tatum diamond /10
KAT auto /10
sexton auto /10
killian hayes auto /10
cole anthony auto
... some other nice ones too, but overall pretty solid.
Peachcardsatl
12-31-2020, 04:50 PM
We just posted an opening and review on Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDTHmBNgFgM
Overall, really like the product.
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