Long term hobby potential: Curry or KD?

[elontusk1119]

Who will sell better toward the later end of their career and post-retirement?

surprised to KD is the leading vote getter, thought his popularity took a hit.

Curry will likely break Ray Allen as an all-time 3-pt shooter. And his NT RPA /99 BGS 9 recently sold for a jaw dropping $345K!

In the long run, who has the greater investment potential between KD and Curry?

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[lietuvalabas]

Curry. Greatest shooter ever, multiple mvps and rings, most importantly, well liked family man, people love that stuff..myself included..also I prolly have more Durant than curry but credit where credit is due.

[Jay9Suited]

Curry is much more likable and has a stronger collector/fan base.

[asujbl]

Such a weird question since neither guy is young so long term is an aggressive term...

I’d probably go Durant

He still has a chance to do some crazy stuff

I think the chance (not saying it happens) of Curry getting surpassed by the next great all time shooter is more likely

If I was comparing all time shooter vs all time scorer (which Durant is)

[rats60]

Such a weird question since neither guy is young so long term is an aggressive term...

I’d probably go Durant

He still has a chance to do some crazy stuff

I think the chance (not saying it happens) of Curry getting surpassed by the next great all time shooter is more likely

If I was comparing all time shooter vs all time scorer (which Durant is)

I would agree. If Durant can win a couple more rings and pass MJ and Kobe in points, his stuff will really take off.

[mfw13]

Curry is much more likable and has a stronger collector/fan base.

This.

But then his prices are already extremely high.

So in terms of investment potential, who knows....

[DluA]

Curry. Greatest shooter ever, multiple mvps and rings, most importantly, well liked family man, people love that stuff..myself included..also I prolly have more Durant than curry but credit where credit is due.

THIS, plus I think even though we understand the NBA is becoming more global... we don't fully comprehend certain players impact world wide. Steph is in the Top 3 of players currently (imo) that are changing how basketball is played and viewed on earth, NOT just in the U.S.

I don't think KD can compete in THAT way... but I will say some of KD's Olympic International performances are some of my favorite straight b-ball memories of his...

[asujbl]

THIS, plus I think even though we understand the NBA is becoming more global... we don't fully comprehend certain players impact world wide. Steph is in the Top 3 of players currently (imo) that are changing how basketball is played and viewed on earth, NOT just in the U.S.

I don't think KD can compete in THAT way... but I will say some of KD's Olympic International performances are some of my favorite straight b-ball memories of his...

Can international folks not vote for the AS game?

[Jay9Suited]

Honest question: Is KD's move to Brooklyn that much different than his move to Golden State?

[sebreg]

Curry. Greatest shooter ever, multiple mvps and rings, most importantly, well liked family man, people love that stuff..myself included..also I prolly have more Durant than curry but credit where credit is due.

100%. I actually like Durant a lot, but Curry is much more likeable and his legacy is more solid because the GS teams were HIS. Greatest shooter of all time, changed the game (so for the historical aspect of the game's history he will forever be incredibly significant), and marketing/branding wise he is beloved which is an important factor in popularity/card prices.

I think Durant can increase his stock by winning 1-2 chips with BKY. Would do wonders for his legacy. But even if that came to pass, I don't see Durant overtaking Curry in terms of hobby love.

[GeechQuest]

Honest question: Is KD's move to Brooklyn that much different than his move to Golden State?

Yes....

[asujbl]

Honest question: Is KD's move to Brooklyn that much different than his move to Golden State?

Did Brooklyn win a championship that I’m forgetting about?

[Jay9Suited]

Yes....

Did Brooklyn win a championship that I’m forgetting about?

Not saying it's equal. But ppl are saying this is Durant's year to prove he can win on his own. Brooklyn was already a playoff team without Kyrie last year. Now they have Kyrie back, signed Durant, and went out and got Harden; an ex MVP who has been a MVP contender for the last 5ish years.

Again not saying it's equal and not trying to change the topic. Just something that has crossed my mind since they signed Harden.

[asujbl]

Not saying it's equal. But ppl are saying this is Durant's year to prove he can win on his own. Brooklyn was already a playoff team without Kyrie last year. Now they have Kyrie back, signed Durant, and went out and got Harden; an ex MVP who has been a MVP contender for the last 5ish years.

Again not saying it's equal and not trying to change the topic. Just something that has crossed my mind since they signed Harden.

Playoff team in the East

Let’s pump the brakes

Durant played for a WCF and then jumped ship to the team that won the championship

It’s apples and oranges

[abidtsteele]

Just throwing this out there - KD has denied it but there seems to be a lot of smoke to support it - Does your mind change if KD recruited Harden in the off season to join he and Kyrie on what was already a playoff team?

Seems pretty similar to me (minus the joining the championship team that beat you aspect)

[asujbl]

Just throwing this out there - KD has denied it but there seems to be a lot of smoke to support it - Does your mind change if KD recruited Harden in the off season to join he and Kyrie on what was already a playoff team?

Seems pretty similar to me (minus the joining the championship team that beat you aspect)

Not even a little

Harden has multiple years left on his contract

Houston could have said stay home for 3 years... he isn’t a FA like Durant (or LeBron originally) was

Durant could have wished in one hand and crapped in the other and saw what got filled up first

It’s not even close to the same

[tjforce]

I would agree. If Durant can win a couple more rings and pass MJ and Kobe in points, his stuff will really take off.

Couldn't you say the same for Curry?

[sebreg]

Just throwing this out there - KD has denied it but there seems to be a lot of smoke to support it - Does your mind change if KD recruited Harden in the off season to join he and Kyrie on what was already a playoff team?

Seems pretty similar to me (minus the joining the championship team that beat you aspect)

Not for me. Lebron recruited AD. It's the way the game is schemed these days. The Durant GS move was orders of magnitude more problematic to me. 73 win team that beat you in 7 in playoffs. Going to that squad was such a weak move imo.

[asujbl]

Couldn't you say the same for Curry?

Since Durant is 7,000 points ahead of Curry?

That would be a no.

[gomiamigo]

Such a weird question since neither guy is young so long term is an aggressive term...

I’d probably go Durant

He still has a chance to do some crazy stuff

I think the chance (not saying it happens) of Curry getting surpassed by the next great all time shooter is more likely

If I was comparing all time shooter vs all time scorer (which Durant is)

Agree with this. If he wins in NYC he will surpass Curry in time.

Durant showing he is probably the best scorer since at least Wilt.

And partly depends how many years each guy is good for from now.

[minnesotachill]

Durant

23k+ points this year

25k+ points by next year = nice spike

30k+ points a few years after that = another spike

then we start looking at chasing down the all-time greats like Kobe..


He's playing MVP ball right now. The only thing stopping him now is Covid health protocols.

Any Championships will just add to the value of his cards.

[Ericc5Bears]

For every hardcore KD fan, there are probably 5-10 hardcore Curry fans. As I've said before, KD really hasn't even endeared himself to a single team's fanbase his entire career. Thunder fans mostly hate him, Warriors fans definitely don't hate him but they just view him as a mercenary whose main purpose was to boost steph's legacy, and it's TBD what happens in Brooklyn. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter who ends up being the better player all-time because Steph is always going to have more dedicated collectors and that's the main thing that influences prices in the long term.

[asujbl]

For every hardcore KD fan, there are probably 5-10x hardcore Curry fans. As I've said before, KD really hasn't even endeared himself to a single team's fanbase his entire career. Thunder fans mostly hate him, Warriors fans definitely don't hate him but they just view him as a mercenary whose main purpose was to boost steph's legacy, and it's TBD what happens in Brooklyn. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter who ends up being the better player all-time because Steph is always going to have more dedicated collectors and that's the main thing that influences prices in the long term.

Where do you get this stat from?

The fact that he’s has the most ASG votes of any player?

Like #1?

[oldgoldy97]

I like that KD doesn’t chew on his mouth guard.

[oldgoldy97]

Where do you get this stat from?

The fact that he’s has the most ASG votes of any player?

Like #1?

Fox..

[asujbl]

Fox..

I don’t even like Durant

But acting like he isn’t popular when he’s leading the entire NBA in a popularity contest?

Whack a doodle

[Brent72]

It's a tough call, but I'm gonna say Curry. Greatest shooter in the history of the game and I don't know if there will ever be another like him. He's also a lot more likeable than KD.

[asujbl]

It's a tough call, but I'm gonna say Curry. Greatest shooter in the history of the game and I don't know if there will ever be another like him. He's also a lot more likeable than KD.

Serious question

You think it’s more unlikely that we find the next great shooter as opposed to the next great scorer?

Completely disagree

There are dudes in College that might be the next 50% from 3

They won’t score like Durant

[Ericc5Bears]

Where do you get this stat from?

The fact that he’s has the most ASG votes of any player?

Like #1?

I guess Andrew Wiggins has more dedicated fans than Devin Booker, CP3, Russell Westbrook, etc.

[msink28]

Both have a lot of runway left. It's kind of a weird question to me because I would say you really should just be buying both, they are about as safe as it gets.

If forced to choose, I would probably take Curry just because I think if younger collectors start to enter the hobby they'll look for Curry just like Kobe fans looked for Kobe, and I also think that Curry could win another one in Golden State once Klay comes back. But all the arguments made for Durant in this thread are true.

[minnesotachill]

The whole Durant unlikable BS is such a bunch of crap.

The MJ/Kobe/Lebron lovers of world saw the next young stud coming to steal the glory and they used his 'weak' move of leaving OKC to beat him down and crush his legacy.

[oldgoldy97]

The whole Durant unlikable BS is such a bunch of crap.

The MJ/Kobe/Lebron lovers of world saw the next young stud coming to steal the glory and they used his 'weak' move of leaving OKC to beat him down and crush his legacy.

That dang Durant and his Decision.

[2010GBPackers]

This a really tough question whose answer has almost nothing to do with basketball. I am a fan of neither, but I'm leaning Curry because of what many other posters have mentioned (likability).

HOWEVER, in terms of on-the-court talent and skills, I give the advantage to Durant. I saw someone else post that Durant came to GS to win his Championships but it was really Curry's team. Ahhhh, not so sure about that. It's really tough to talk yourself into Curry being "the guy" but never winning a Finals MVP. Most people who watched the Finals games when Durant was with GS knew who the better player was on the floor. Durant absolutely lit the house on fire during his Finals appearances.

If Durant gets another with the Nets, I think the tables turn. Plus, GS is not a good team and Curry is older than people realize. Durant may never win in the popularity contest, but fairly soon even Curry fans will have to admit Durant is an overall better player.

[sebreg]

This a really tough question whose answer has almost nothing to do with basketball. I am a fan of neither, but I'm leaning Curry because of what many other posters have mentioned (likability).

HOWEVER, in terms of on-the-court talent and skills, I give the advantage to Durant. I saw someone else post that Durant came to GS to win his Championships but it was really Curry's team. Ahhhh, not so sure about that. It's really tough to talk yourself into Curry being "the guy" but never winning a Finals MVP. Most people who watched the Finals games when Durant was with GS knew who the better player was on the floor. Durant absolutely lit the house on fire during his Finals appearances.

If Durant gets another with the Nets, I think the tables turn. Plus, GS is not a good team and Curry is older than people realize. Durant may never win in the popularity contest, but fairly soon even Curry fans will have to admit Durant is an overall better player.

Good points. Personally I think it's clear as day that Durant is the better player in terms of skillset, BUT I do think Curry is better at making his teammates better. Curry's singular advantage in my mind is that he changed the game, so he will forever remain a historical figure that looms large in the landscape of basketball history.

[karkinos]

curry

legacy players (ie. one team for the entire career) have higher value imo because of the consistent collector base
lebron is the exception to the rule

[minnesotachill]

I've always viewed the Lebron/KD pairing as the modern day Jordan/Kobe

Jordan was the idol that Kobe mirrored his game after. For the longest time in the hobby, Jordan cards outsold Kobe by a massive amount. As Kobe's career came to a close, his cards appreciated tremendously. Collectors and investors started to finally see the incredible potential as they reflected on his amazing career.

I think Durant will see the same thing happen to his cards. Sometimes it's hard to really appreciate guys like Durant until they are gone.

[mfw13]

Not saying it's equal. But ppl are saying this is Durant's year to prove he can win on his own. Brooklyn was already a playoff team without Kyrie last year. Now they have Kyrie back, signed Durant, and went out and got Harden; an ex MVP who has been a MVP contender for the last 5ish years.

Again not saying it's equal and not trying to change the topic. Just something that has crossed my mind since they signed Harden.

Problem is that as you pointed out, he's not "on his own". He's on another "superteam".

His chance to win a title "on his own" was in OKC, and he didn't.

Just like Shaq's legacy was tarnished by the fact that he didn't win a title with the Magic, and then jumped ship to team up with Kobe.

Whereas Steph, along with Klay, Draymond, & Iggy, took a team that nobody even had pegged as title contenders and led them to their first title in 40 years.

[drobfan8]

I think it's gonna be Curry. But you can't really go wrong here.

But if KD wins a title and gets the FMVP. Surely he'll win the argument.

[oldgoldy97]

Problem is that as you pointed out, he's not "on his own". He's on another "superteam".

His chance to win a title "on his own" was in OKC, and he didn't.

Just like Shaq's legacy was tarnished by the fact that he didn't win a title with the Magic, and then jumped ship to team up with Kobe.

Whereas Steph, along with Klay, Draymond, & Iggy, took a team that nobody even had pegged as title contenders and led them to their first title in 40 years.

Curry is “on his own” this year. Let’s see how it plays out.

[gregboise]

Curry

He changed the game

KD, in all his greatness, has not


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[lyyca]

Curry. And to be honest, it’s not even close. Invest wisely :)

[ballhawkdawk]

Serious question

You think it’s more unlikely that we find the next great shooter as opposed to the next great scorer?

Completely disagree

There are dudes in College that might be the next 50% from 3

They won’t score like Durant

I think we’re as likely to find the next Curry level shooter as we are VC level dunker. It’s also tough for me to imagine anyone having the same overall 1v1 offensive game as KD, though. Nobody does it better. Kawhi a close second.

[Beavers98]

Not a big fan of Durant. I can appreciate his talent, and I don't think it's too debatable who's the better overall player, but I'd rather have a collection of Curry than Durant, but that's just me.

Edit: Agree with others that Curry changed the game and is more likable. (Hence my opinion)

[ninjacookies]

Curry will never be the overall player Durant is, but his likeability/relatability factor will always put him 10 steps ahead of KD in the hobby and the fans' perspective.

[captionwanker]

I think Durant will have more longevity because he's willing to relocate to wherever to get rings and prolong his success. I can see KD is late 30s being a supersub like Iguodala.

i think Steph is going to retire as a warrior and that hinders him in the future unless he gets a boost from young players like Duncan had with Tony and Kawhi. Klay career in limbo and Draymond falling off the cliff isn't helping.

[ninjacookies]

I'd say Curry's position and playstyle favors him to have a longer possible career than KD.

History is typically not kind to borderline 7 footers approaching their mid 30's, particularly in the lower back/leg areas.

Aside from the occasional freak injuries (landing on hand), Steph's pretty much shook the early career ankle issues and could probably play well into his late 30's/early 40's at a borderline all star level. He barely elevates on his jumper, and could most likely average 2x points a game doing nothing but coming off strong screens and chucking from behind the arc.

[drobfan8]

I think Durant will have more longevity because he's willing to relocate to wherever to get rings and prolong his success. I can see KD is late 30s being a supersub like Iguodala.

i think Steph is going to retire as a warrior and that hinders him in the future unless he gets a boost from young players like Duncan had with Tony and Kawhi. Klay career in limbo and Draymond falling off the cliff isn't helping.

KD has already said he won't jusy play on forever for the sake of it.

[minnesotachill]

Durant is built for the long run for sure.

Tall, skinny, little wear on the knees. He's a great shooter so he could probably play till he's 40 if he wanted to.

[GeechQuest]

Durant is built for the long run for sure.

Tall, skinny, little wear on the knees. He's a great shooter so he could probably play till he's 40 if he wanted to.

The dude wasn’t walking unassisted on his 30th Birthday...

[mfw13]

Curry is “on his own” this year. Let’s see how it plays out.

Curry was also "on his own" in 2014-15, when the Warriors won their first title.

And they completely surprised everyone in doing it. Nobody considered them serious contenders because the previous year they were knocked out in the first round of the playoffs as a #6 seed.

[asujbl]

I think we’re as likely to find the next Curry level shooter as we are VC level dunker. It’s also tough for me to imagine anyone having the same overall 1v1 offensive game as KD, though. Nobody does it better. Kawhi a close second.

So is this agreeing with me?

Because we have dunkers that can hang with Carter (and I love Carter)

So we are already at that point

[jayjavu]

They are both at the same level, but IMO Kevin Durant has more room for growth in terms of future value. Curry cards are already more expensive than KD.

[flashinitup]

Good points. Personally I think it's clear as day that Durant is the better player in terms of skillset, BUT I do think Curry is better at making his teammates better. Curry's singular advantage in my mind is that he changed the game, so he will forever remain a historical figure that looms large in the landscape of basketball history.

How are Durant and Curry comparable in any way skill-set wise? I keep hearing that argument, as if Curry is some chump who is somehow far inferior to Durant. They are two completely different players with two completely different styles. They also at different positions, different body types, wingspans, and basketball IQs. One is a 7 foot unicorn iso scoring God, undeniably one of the best scorers to ever play. When the martian death beams are pointed at earth, yes, you probably want the 7 footer who can score from anywhere on the floor taking that last shot.

And then there is Curry, who I would argue we have never seen anything like him either. One of the best ball handlers to ever play. THE best shooter to ever shoot. One of the best finishers at the rim ever who can finish with either hand. His mid-range game is automatic when he does take them, constantly moving around the floor creating space for other teammates ON and OFF ball in ways that we have never seen before. In big moments, he has always stepped up. Rockets Conference Finals. Thunder Conference Finals facing elimination. Blazers Conference Finals. Rockets Semis facing elimination. He has always stepped up to the plate when it matters. People can't point to one missed shot when he was triple teamed vs the Raptors as "proof" he isn't clutch. He has had amazing series in the Finals as well but Durant put up more points and hit more big shots, because Curry isn't selfish and allows his teammates to get the glory as well. It's all the same to him.

What Curry does at his size is nothing short of amazing. He isn't just the best shooter ever, he is so much more than that. But I'm glad people are still sleeping and thinking he is just a 3 point shooter who in their fantasy land was carried by Durant to championships. I guess thats why they won in 14-15 with Curry as the sole "star" of the team. And I guess that's why when Durant was out with injuries throughout playoff series vs Top 1 and 2 teams in the league, Curry destroyed opponents and put one some of the most remarkable displays of scoring, momentum killing, and leadership we have ever seen.

The dude is a winner. Always has been. Curry for me, all day any day. For the next generation of youth and so many others, he is their Kobe.

[frankiecgsw]

IMO curry cards only come in 1 jersey.KD has 4 different jerseys to choose from.

Curry has Chinese collectors with unlimited buying power. He has that small underdog build they relate to. Curry’s card only going up from here.KD is a beast and his prices will go up too but Curry’s prices will be higher


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[sebreg]

How are Durant and Curry comparable in any way skill-set wise? I keep hearing that argument, as if Curry is some chump who is somehow far inferior to Durant. They are two completely different players with two completely different styles. They also at different positions, different body types, wingspans, and basketball IQs. One is a 7 foot unicorn iso scoring God, undeniably one of the best scorers to ever play. When the martian death beams are pointed at earth, yes, you probably want the 7 footer who can score from anywhere on the floor taking that last shot.

And then there is Curry, who I would argue we have never seen anything like him either. One of the best ball handlers to ever play. THE best shooter to ever shoot. One of the best finishers at the rim ever who can finish with either hand. His mid-range game is automatic when he does take them, constantly moving around the floor creating space for other teammates ON and OFF ball in ways that we have never seen before. In big moments, he has always stepped up. Rockets Conference Finals. Thunder Conference Finals facing elimination. Blazers Conference Finals. Rockets Semis facing elimination. He has always stepped up to the plate when it matters. People can't point to one missed shot when he was triple teamed vs the Raptors as "proof" he isn't clutch. He has had amazing series in the Finals as well but Durant put up more points and hit more big shots, because Curry isn't selfish and allows his teammates to get the glory as well. It's all the same to him.

What Curry does at his size is nothing short of amazing. He isn't just the best shooter ever, he is so much more than that. But I'm glad people are still sleeping and thinking he is just a 3 point shooter who in their fantasy land was carried by Durant to championships. I guess thats why they won in 14-15 with Curry as the sole "star" of the team. And I guess that's why when Durant was out with injuries throughout playoff series vs Top 1 and 2 teams in the league, Curry destroyed opponents and put one some of the most remarkable displays of scoring, momentum killing, and leadership we have ever seen.

The dude is a winner. Always has been. Curry for me, all day any day. For the next generation of youth and so many others, he is their Kobe.

Just my opinion, but taking totality of offensive scoring ability from basket attack, mid-range, 3 I think Durant is the most complete offensive force the game has seen in a generation. Curry is a much better playmaker and his gravity is unparalleled, so I do think Curry makes his teammates much better than Durant does (one could argue this makes Curry the better player). Durant has greater ceiling and less potential to be liability on the defensive end. In a vacuum Durant's offensive scoring ability is the top in my mind. All that said, while I respect Durant personally I prefer Curry's game by a wide margin.

[ninjacookies]

Obnoxious mouthpiece gnawer obviously read this thread tonight.


Ya'll gone learn today.

[Hess687]

I'm surprised no one has said Curry due to the fact he has stayed with the same team. Obviously Lebron is an exception due to him being Kobe/MJ level of greatness, but I do think a player who who stays with the same team has a stronger collector base which in return increases his card value.

I could be way off on that and have no stats to back it up, but I think guys like Curry, Duncan, David Robinson, Jordan, Olajuwon are hard to find these days as people look for the next mega team which in return hurts card value.

[asujbl]

I'm surprised no one has said Curry due to the fact he has stayed with the same team. Obviously Lebron is an exception due to him being Kobe/MJ level of greatness, but I do think a player who who stays with the same team has a stronger collector base which in return increases his card value.

I could be way off on that and have no stats to back it up, but I think guys like Curry, Duncan, David Robinson, Jordan, Olajuwon are hard to find these days as people look for the next mega team which in return hurts card value.

Olajuwon played for Toronto. Jordan played for Washington.

Or do we just ignore that since it’s “not the same”

[Hess687]

Olajuwon played for Toronto. Jordan played for Washington.

Or do we just ignore that since it’s “not the same”

In the twilight of their careers when they were playing more for longevity than championships. How long did each last on those teams? Olajuwon was one year and Jordan was 2 years. I don't really think that qualifies as hopping from team to team when you have Durant on his 3rd team already.

[RadicalAlmond]

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[asujbl]

In the twilight of their careers when they were playing more for longevity than championships. How long did each last on those teams? Olajuwon was one year and Jordan was 2 years. I don't really think that qualifies as hopping from team to team when you have Durant on his 3rd team already.

So you don’t count them. Got it.

[Hess687]

So you don’t count them. Got it.

Correct. Both had won multiple championships by then and were looking to extend their careers due to the love of the game when they should have just hung it up. Jordan lasted two years before retiring and Olajuwon one. Durant is on his 3rd team and is nowhere near retiring.

[MavsRChamps]

I'd say Curry though I think Durant is the better player & will be higher up the career ranking.

But Curry just has more "fans" from what I can see. There's so many 10 - 18 year olds right now that LOVE Curry ... How many children or young adults really LOVE Durant? He just doesn't strike me as a guy who's that popular.

So if we're talking about what will drive cards values 20 years from now - I'm picking the guy who has more passionate fans, considering how close they are in actual talent.

[MavsRChamps]

I'm surprised no one has said Curry due to the fact he has stayed with the same team. Obviously Lebron is an exception due to him being Kobe/MJ level of greatness, but I do think a player who who stays with the same team has a stronger collector base which in return increases his card value.

I could be way off on that and have no stats to back it up, but I think guys like Curry, Duncan, David Robinson, Jordan, Olajuwon are hard to find these days as people look for the next mega team which in return hurts card value.

+ 1. I think that plays a major factor - and it's kind of correlated to the main factor which is just a passionate team fan base that supports a player ... So for example, yes Jordan changed teams but he's still beloved by Bulls fans. Dirk is beloved by Mavs fans. Kobe by Lakers fans, etc. Those fan collectors will ensure those players only increase in value over time. Curry has Warriors fans on lock to collect him the next 30 years ... Durant has ... I guess the Thunder, maybe Nets if they win it. But as you can see on average the fan bases are not as connected to him as these other players and if we're talking about long-term value, that is going to play into it I think

[brothertona]

Curry is the best shooter of all time - what will Durant be the best at - if you're talking scorer Bron will have the most points all time. He's not going to have the most championships I don't see any scenario where Durant is considered the best at anything. Steph Curry transformed the generation he played in, he is truly a generational talent. Steph is most definitely better than Durant - I don't think this should be a discussion.

[Lankybox]

Long-term? Curry. This guy singlehandedly changed how the NBA games are played. Lasting impact for sure

[eastbayak]

Yesterday: Curry
Today: Curry
Tomorrow: Curry
When I die: Curry

[rats60]

+ 1. I think that plays a major factor - and it's kind of correlated to the main factor which is just a passionate team fan base that supports a player ... So for example, yes Jordan changed teams but he's still beloved by Bulls fans. Dirk is beloved by Mavs fans. Kobe by Lakers fans, etc. Those fan collectors will ensure those players only increase in value over time. Curry has Warriors fans on lock to collect him the next 30 years ... Durant has ... I guess the Thunder, maybe Nets if they win it. But as you can see on average the fan bases are not as connected to him as these other players and if we're talking about long-term value, that is going to play into it I think

If Durant brings championships to the largest market in the NBA, his fan base will surpass Curry's. Why do you think he is leading the All Star voting?

[Justin7]

The media HATES KD and is ok with Curry. I personally see Curry as a guy who changed the game more of a cultural icon, kinda like AI but KD is more like a Larry Bird as in a really good player that gets respect just based on his play. The media has a lot of sway though and they got it out for him so idk how that ends.

[oldgoldy97]

Wilt should be the most popular ever because he changed the game more than anybody.

But then again he did play on multiple teams so that must negate his game-changingness.

[oldgoldy97]

If Durant brings championships to the largest market in the NBA, his fan base will surpass Curry's. Why do you think he is leading the All Star voting?

Nobody has answered this yet.

[ballhawkdawk]

Nobody has answered this yet.

Why Durant is leading the All-Star voting? Who cares? Let's run with the point that bringing this up is attempting to make... so he's more popular than Giannis, LeBron, Curry, and Luka... because he's leading the All-Star voting. Lol c'mon...

[rustywest]

The media HATES KD and is ok with Curry. I personally see Curry as a guy who changed the game more of a cultural icon, kinda like AI but KD is more like a Larry Bird as in a really good player that gets respect just based on his play. The media has a lot of sway though and they got it out for him so idk how that ends.

What planet are you faxing this from :cry: The media does not hate KD He has done a bunch of questionable things which makes fans dislike him and it was his agenda to morph into some type of weird villain. That other guy from the Thunder, that's who the media hates...

These investing questions are so ridiculous. Both guys are fine choices for collecting basketball cards?

[oldgoldy97]

Why Durant is leading the All-Star voting? Who cares? Let's run with the point that bringing this up is attempting to make... so he's more popular than Giannis, LeBron, Curry, and Luka... because he's leading the All-Star voting. Lol c'mon...

People are saying he’s not popular but leads in the popularity vote.

If you don’t see the irony in that then I don’t know what to say.

[ballhawkdawk]

So is this agreeing with me?

Because we have dunkers that can hang with Carter (and I love Carter)

So we are already at that point

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, but only saying that we're equally unlikely to have a Curry level shooter or Durant level scorer any time soon unless we loosely apply what it means to be on that level.

Who are these dunkers that can hang with Vince? I'm talking total body of work... in game, dunk contest, every night, and a full array of jams. If we're going to make that point, then we can say Dame is already close to Curry and Kawhi is already close to KD.

Who are these guys coming out of college that can shoot like Steph? I don't care if some Kyle Korver type can hit 50% from 3 off the bench against the bench unit. I'm talking accuracy, ability to make shots that are insanely difficult, quick release, off the dribble, off a screen, anywhere beyond the arc within half court, double/triple teamed... hitting a high % of threes doesn't really mean anything by itself. Steph's % would be even higher if he wasn't the guy always taking the end of quarter heave that Durant is rarely willing to take.

[Ed Ande]

Both. No question, both elite both have made big accomplishments, records, rings, etc. both are Iconic both are buys. I cant really say anyone is better up to this point in terms of a better buy. I will say, this question shall be interesting at the end of their seasons. Who knows who is going to get more rings when its all said done

[ballhawkdawk]

People are saying he’s not popular but leads in the popularity vote.

If you don’t see the irony in that then I don’t know what to say.

"Not popular" is being used in a relative sense. Of course he's popular, but All-Star voting isn't the be all end all of player popularity or future card prices.

Jokic and Embiid currently have more votes than Luka. Is it because they're more popular or because the voting structure and competition at those positions just happens to work out this way?

Last season AD was 4th and Harden 6th. Popular players, sure, but are either of them even close to as popular as their All-Star vote totals would indicate?

The season before that Kyrie was 3rd, one spot ahead of Curry. Was Kyrie really more popular than Curry... ever?

[rats60]

Why Durant is leading the All-Star voting? Who cares? Let's run with the point that bringing this up is attempting to make... so he's more popular than Giannis, LeBron, Curry, and Luka... because he's leading the All-Star voting. Lol c'mon...

If you are looking to invest in his cards you should care. He is in the largest NBA market. The Knicks are a dumpster fire and have been for a long time. KD making a run to the finals and/or winning a championship is going to create demand for his cards. He is also in the mix for MVP.

Curry on the other hand is on a team whose championship window is closing. They had their run thanks to KD, but unless they can attract another big FA like Giannis, they are going to be struggling to get out of the first round. Curry is popular and his cards are going to be solid, but I don't see him adding much to his legacy. KD has more potential in my opinion.

[oldgoldy97]

"Not popular" is being used in a relative sense. Of course he's popular, but All-Star voting isn't the be all end all of player popularity or future card prices.

Jokic and Embiid currently have more votes than Luka. Is it because they're more popular or because the voting structure and competition at those positions just happens to work out this way? Voting structure

Last season AD was 4th and Harden 6th. Popular players, sure, but are either of them even close to as popular as their All-Star vote totals would indicate? Yes

The season before that Kyrie was 3rd, one spot ahead of Curry. Was Kyrie really more popular than Curry... ever? Possibly. One had his own movie and legitimate shoe line then went kookie

There, I successfully accomplished what 95% of BO posters are incapable of: I answered the questions.

[Sjpwa]

Ask draymond... he knows

[amg2002]

People are saying he’s not popular but leads in the popularity vote.

If you don’t see the irony in that then I don’t know what to say.

If you look at the voting, Durant SHOULD have more votes than Curry. When we get to vote, we have to choose from a selection of players, Durant in the Eastern Conference Frontcourt and Curry in the Western Conference guards. Who is taking votes from Durant in that category other than Giannis? Curry is fighting for votes against Luka, Ja, Lillard, Mitchell, Booker, CP....and still has almost as many as KD.

A Curry led team WITHOUT KD won 73 games in a season
A Curry led team WITHOUT KD won a title

How many titles does KD have without Curry?

And for something recent...did anyone watch last nights game? Teams have ONE guy to account for on offense for the Warriors and he can still put up games of 50+.

I get the talent that KD has, but there is just something different about Steph.

[ballhawkdawk]

If you are looking to invest in his cards you should care. He is in the largest NBA market. The Knicks are a dumpster fire and have been for a long time. KD making a run to the finals and/or winning a championship is going to create demand for his cards. He is also in the mix for MVP.

Curry on the other hand is on a team whose championship window is closing. They had their run thanks to KD, but unless they can attract another big FA like Giannis, they are going to be struggling to get out of the first round. Curry is popular and his cards are going to be solid, but I don't see him adding much to his legacy. KD has more potential in my opinion.
I'd think LA would be the largest NBA market, followed by NYK. I don't know how that all shakes out with Brooklyn obviously being in the same state, but to me it'd be like comparing the Mets to the Yankees. I could be way off there.

The Warriors set the record for regular season wins before KD showed up and won a title a year before that. He helped, sure, but I'm not going to use that as a strike against Curry and the rest of the Warriors when KD is now on the same team as Kyrie and perennial top 2 MVP candidate Harden, and LeBron never won a title without also teaming up his own squad of All-Stars. For some reason having solid teammates is a strike against Curry but no one else when he's the only one to win one with a home grown roster.

My prediction: I don't think a ring and Finals MVP puts KD ahead of Curry in terms of card prices or any other meaningful player popularity metric. We're purely speculating at that point, but that's my prediction. He has more ground to make up than that. He'll get the Kawhi bump if he does, but that won't be enough.

[sebreg]

This is the thing for me, I would pay 10x more to watch Steph than Durant. I find him more entertaining. And I do think he makes his teammates better. In terms of adding to legacy at this point, that's the tricky question. Safish assmption is that Klay is never going to be the same, Warriors prob going to be stuck around 40-50 win teams that don't have shot at the chip. Could be wrong on that, and maybe with a few moves they could reemerge as contenders.

If the Nets solidify their bigs with some pick-ups, they are threats to win a title. Durant, as it stands right now, has a better chance to win more titles than Curry.

[Hess687]

If you are looking to invest in his cards you should care. He is in the largest NBA market. The Knicks are a dumpster fire and have been for a long time. KD making a run to the finals and/or winning a championship is going to create demand for his cards. He is also in the mix for MVP.

Curry on the other hand is on a team whose championship window is closing. They had their run thanks to KD, but unless they can attract another big FA like Giannis, they are going to be struggling to get out of the first round. Curry is popular and his cards are going to be solid, but I don't see him adding much to his legacy. KD has more potential in my opinion.

:doh:

[jgrann13]

Cant there room for both? Both are generational talents and should be appreciated in their primes. You will
never see another KD and you will never see another Steph. Buy them both and HOLD

[ballhawkdawk]

Cant there room for both? Both are generational talents and should be appreciated in their primes. You will
never see another KD and you will never see another Steph. Buy them both and HOLD

There's definitely room for both. But after LeBron, somebody has to be 2, 3, 4, etc. I don't see anything wrong with KD being 3 the same way there's nothing wrong with Curry being 2, and on and on. I collect Ben Simmons, and I think it's unlikely he ever cracks top 5 among active players in terms of popularity or card price at any point in his career. And I'm okay with that.

Some of the points about the excitement of Curry's play style is why I never see KD catching him. He reminds me of Ken Griffey Jr. in terms of fan appeal. He just has that It factor. Card prices and player popularity aren't a math problem where simply having x number of rings, y number of MVPs, z number of points, etc. will get it done. I realize baseball and basketball aren't entirely similar in terms of what drives prices, but my point is that Curry's popularity goes beyond his body of work.

[jgrann13]

KD when healthy and fully rolling is the best scorer/player in the League behind Lebron hands down.

Steph is fun and sensational but between defense and efficiency he is no KD.

Both fantastic and true legends but KDs all around game is on another level - like him or not

[iloveturbos]

Who will sell better toward the later end of their career and post-retirement?

surprised to KD is the leading vote getter, thought his popularity took a hit.

Curry will likely break Ray Allen as an all-time 3-pt shooter. And his NT RPA /99 BGS 9 recently sold for a jaw dropping $345K!

In the long run, who has the greater investment potential between KD and Curry?

https://goldinauctions.com/mobile/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=73267

https://goldinauctions.com/ItemImages/000073/73267a_med.jpeg

Probably going to cry every night for the rest of my life for letting this go so early. :doh:

[Thebirdman321]

Lmao Steph is clearly higher on the all time greats list right now.

[lietuvalabas]

I'd think LA would be the largest NBA market, followed by NYK. I don't know how that all shakes out with Brooklyn obviously being in the same state, but to me it'd be like comparing the Mets to the Yankees. I could be way off there.

The Warriors set the record for regular season wins before KD showed up and won a title a year before that. He helped, sure, but I'm not going to use that as a strike against Curry and the rest of the Warriors when KD is now on the same team as Kyrie and perennial top 2 MVP candidate Harden, and LeBron never won a title without also teaming up his own squad of All-Stars. For some reason having solid teammates is a strike against Curry but no one else when he's the only one to win one with a home grown roster.

My prediction: I don't think a ring and Finals MVP puts KD ahead of Curry in terms of card prices or any other meaningful player popularity metric. We're purely speculating at that point, but that's my prediction. He has more ground to make up than that. He'll get the Kawhi bump if he does, but that won't be enough.

i could be way off too...but this has always been my view of the Nets, like the knicks little brother marketwise. Im sure its way more popular than when they were in NJ, but yeah, i get a totally different vibe about brooklyn vs the knicks. I would venture to guess most growing up in new york everyone were knicks fans, and probably still die-hard even though they suck. I just envision the brooklyn fans to be 20 year olds who wear way too tight/short of jeans to show off their sneakerboi jordans, and probably use the word "fire" way too often.

[Zedlaw]

Curry is an absolute historical statistical outlier at what he does. More and future data crunching will only further bring to light his legacy. Durant is great, but every ten years we get a Durant. Nobody is matching peak Curry, nobody is winning 73 games. There’s a finals mvp every year. How many unanimous league mvps have there been. Curry is a 100 year storm. Enjoy him now because we will all be dead before we see his like again. Basketball just isn’t meant to be dominated by guys 6’3”.

[lietuvalabas]

Curry is an absolute historical statistical outlier at what he does. More and future data crunching will only further bring to light his legacy. Durant is great, but every ten years we get a Durant. Nobody is matching peak Curry, nobody is winning 73 games. There’s a finals mvp every year. How many unanimous league mvps have there been. Curry is a 100 year storm. Enjoy him now because we will all be dead before we see his like again. Basketball just isn’t meant to be dominated by guys 6’3”.

thats actually a really good take...forgot he was unanimous

[daeve]

KD had a shot to add to his legacy before he begged for his buddy Harden to join and create another superteam.

He just can't carry even a 'good/very good' team to postseason success, to the point where he's done trying. It's actually kind of sad he didn't even give it 1 full season.

[elontusk1119]

Probably going to cry every night for the rest of my life for letting this go so early. :doh:

Happened to the best of us, hope at least you got out at a decent enough point. No one ever thought Curry NT RPA /99 ... not even BGS 9.5 but a 9 would go for $345K .... if they say they saw it coming, they lie.

[sebreg]

Yeah, my view is you could tell the history of basketball without much focus on Durant. But you cannot tell the history of basketball without Curry. He transformed a generation of basketball, kind of significant ya know.

[JaMorEth]

As this market becomes more global, Curry will definitely rise above KD because China love sky f*cker. Plus he's the greatest shooter of all time so far. I think his long term appeal will make him the better pick hobby wise.

[daeve]

Yeah, my view is you could tell the history of basketball without much focus on Durant. But you cannot tell the history of basketball without Curry. He transformed a generation of basketball, kind of significant ya know.

Excellent way of putting it

[tjforce]

Since Durant is 7,000 points ahead of Curry?

That would be a no.

I was moreso referring to the winning more rings...


Look, no one really cares where you rank in all time point, unless you are #1.

Karl Malone is #2.

Moses Malone is #9

Evlin Hayes in #10


Heck, James Harden is 2,000 points behind Durant, 1 year younger, and has less wear and tear than KD. But I'm not going to say he'll ever come anywhere near KD even if he passes in him points, because...

-He has less Ship's than him
-He's less liked than him

If I had to compare KD to Steph, I'd say...

-He has less Ship's than him
-He's less liked than him

[KhalDrogo]

Curry is an absolute historical statistical outlier at what he does. More and future data crunching will only further bring to light his legacy. Durant is great, but every ten years we get a Durant. Nobody is matching peak Curry, nobody is winning 73 games. There’s a finals mvp every year. How many unanimous league mvps have there been. Curry is a 100 year storm. Enjoy him now because we will all be dead before we see his like again. Basketball just isn’t meant to be dominated by guys 6’3”.
This is the perfect summary.

Curry simply has it. Durant doesn't. Curry is beloved. Durant is despised. His off-court persona is a guy who uses burner accounts to battle Twitter trolls. Durant has boxed himself into this legacy:

Thunder: Not good enough to win a title as the man.
Warriors: Championship chaser.
Nets: Needs two other superstars to compete.

Good luck overcoming that.

[rats60]

If you look at the voting, Durant SHOULD have more votes than Curry. When we get to vote, we have to choose from a selection of players, Durant in the Eastern Conference Frontcourt and Curry in the Western Conference guards. Who is taking votes from Durant in that category other than Giannis? Curry is fighting for votes against Luka, Ja, Lillard, Mitchell, Booker, CP....and still has almost as many as KD.

A Curry led team WITHOUT KD won 73 games in a season
A Curry led team WITHOUT KD won a title

How many titles does KD have without Curry?

And for something recent...did anyone watch last nights game? Teams have ONE guy to account for on offense for the Warriors and he can still put up games of 50+.

I get the talent that KD has, but there is just something different about Steph.

If Curry isn't better than those guys, that is the problem. People will forget and chase the next hot player.

Curry led team won 73 games and lost in the Finals.
Curry led team beat a Cavs team missing 2 if their top 3 players and still lost 2 games to them and Curry wasn't finals MVP. When the Cavs were at full strength, the Cavs beat them.


Durant led team beat that same Cavs team 8 of 9 games in 2 Finals with Durant out playing LeBron on both ends of the floor and Durant winning both Finals MVP.

Sure Curry has 3 rings and Durant only 2, but Durant has potential to win more and this is what was asked.

Durant also has 2 Finals MVPs and Curry has 0.

Right now Curry has a higher position in the hobby, but Durant has more potential for the future, winning MVPs titles, Finals MVPs and hitting career milestones.

[rats60]

I was moreso referring to the winning more rings...


Look, no one really cares where you rank in all time point, unless you are #1.

Karl Malone is #2.

Moses Malone is #9

Evlin Hayes in #10


Heck, James Harden is 2,000 points behind Durant, 1 year younger, and has less wear and tear than KD. But I'm not going to say he'll ever come anywhere near KD even if he passes in him points, because...

-He has less Ship's than him
-He's less liked than him

If I had to compare KD to Steph, I'd say...

-He has less Ship's than him
-He's less liked than him

They will care if Durant passes Michael Jordan. They will care if he passes Kobe Bryant. Don't forget Durant has one of the top scoring averages too.

Curry has more rings now, but Durant can easily match or pass Curry.

Curry is more liked now, but that is not guaranteed in the future. If Durant brings a championship(s) to NYC that can change.

This question is potential, Curry is near his ceiling, Durant is not.

[rats60]

KD had a shot to add to his legacy before he begged for his buddy Harden to join and create another superteam.

He just can't carry even a 'good/very good' team to postseason success, to the point where he's done trying. It's actually kind of sad he didn't even give it 1 full season.

So LeBron has no legacy? He formed a super team in Miami, then Cleveland, then LA. It seems to be working for him. If Durant wins the next two, all people will care about is they both have 4 rings and 4 Finals MVPs.

[2010GBPackers]

If Curry isn't better than those guys, that is the problem. People will forget and chase the next hot player.

Curry led team won 73 games and lost in the Finals.
Curry led team beat a Cavs team missing 2 if their top 3 players and still lost 2 games to them and Curry wasn't finals MVP. When the Cavs were at full strength, the Cavs beat them.


Durant led team beat that same Cavs team 8 of 9 games in 2 Finals with Durant out playing LeBron on both ends of the floor and Durant winning both Finals MVP.

Sure Curry has 3 rings and Durant only 2, but Durant has potential to win more and this is what was asked.

Durant also has 2 Finals MVPs and Curry has 0.

Right now Curry has a higher position in the hobby, but Durant has more potential for the future, winning MVPs titles, Finals MVPs and hitting career milestones.

Finally, someone with a memory of what transpired during the Warriors' run.

Just looking at the results on paper won't tell the whole story. The truth is the Warriors could have won the '17 and '18 titles without Curry, but they would most likely would have lost both without Durant. Anyone who was an objective observer knows this.

I'm not saying Curry won't continue to be a better investment, but Durant is the better player.

[daeve]

If Curry isn't better than those guys, that is the problem. People will forget and chase the next hot player.

Curry led team won 73 games and lost in the Finals.
Curry led team beat a Cavs team missing 2 if their top 3 players and still lost 2 games to them and Curry wasn't finals MVP. When the Cavs were at full strength, the Cavs beat them.


Durant led team beat that same Cavs team 8 of 9 games in 2 Finals with Durant out playing LeBron on both ends of the floor and Durant winning both Finals MVP.

Sure Curry has 3 rings and Durant only 2, but Durant has potential to win more and this is what was asked.

Durant also has 2 Finals MVPs and Curry has 0.

Right now Curry has a higher position in the hobby, but Durant has more potential for the future, winning MVPs titles, Finals MVPs and hitting career milestones.

KD stans can only keep echoing this over and over - and what's going to be hilarious to me is IF Brooklyn manages to win one... and Harden wins FMVP - how are y'all going to galaxy brain explain it away as not being so important.

[Zedlaw]

If Curry isn't better than those guys, that is the problem. People will forget and chase the next hot player.

Curry led team won 73 games and lost in the Finals.
Curry led team beat a Cavs team missing 2 if their top 3 players and still lost 2 games to them and Curry wasn't finals MVP. When the Cavs were at full strength, the Cavs beat them.


Durant led team beat that same Cavs team 8 of 9 games in 2 Finals with Durant out playing LeBron on both ends of the floor and Durant winning both Finals MVP.

Sure Curry has 3 rings and Durant only 2, but Durant has potential to win more and this is what was asked.

Durant also has 2 Finals MVPs and Curry has 0.

Right now Curry has a higher position in the hobby, but Durant has more potential for the future, winning MVPs titles, Finals MVPs and hitting career milestones.

Don’t forget, Curry was pretty banged up during that Cavs series

[Zedlaw]

Finally, someone with a memory of what transpired during the Warriors' run.

Just looking at the results on paper won't tell the whole story. The truth is the Warriors could have won the '17 and '18 titles without Curry, but they would most likely would have lost both without Durant. Anyone who was an objective observer knows this.

I'm not saying Curry won't continue to be a better investment, but Durant is the better player.

Since when has a hypothetical had any relation to truth.

The truth is, Durant has had 9 seasons to win a title without Curry and he’s 0-9.

[oldgoldy97]

If the Wolves don’t get a top 3 pick then Curry gets more ammo next year. Plus Klay should be back and Wiseman with a year under his belt.

Will that be enough to get them back to the Finals or do they need more? It’s a tough West with superteams like the Jazz with Spider and...Gobert, I guess. Or Denver with Joker and, umm... Murray? Harris?

Why are these teams ahead of GS?

[iloveturbos]

Happened to the best of us, hope at least you got out at a decent enough point. No one ever thought Curry NT RPA /99 ... not even BGS 9.5 but a 9 would go for $345K .... if they say they saw it coming, they lie.

31/99 was pulled for me in a break way back in around 2010. I debated for awhile if I should sell. I sold it a couple weeks before his first championship. I’m over it now. lol just crazy how the market is these days.

[daeve]

So LeBron has no legacy? He formed a super team in Miami, then Cleveland, then LA. It seems to be working for him. If Durant wins the next two, all people will care about is they both have 4 rings and 4 Finals MVPs.

Lebron carried some pretty bad teams to the Finals before that though. He certainly took his lumps.

KD has never had a bad or even mediocre team.

He went from losing with RW/Harden/Ibaka to joining 73-win GS, to now not even giving it half a season before forming another superteam.

[daeve]

If the Wolves don’t get a top 3 pick then Curry gets more ammo next year. Plus Klay should be back and Wiseman with a year under his belt.

Will that be enough to get them back to the Finals or do they need more? It’s a tough West with superteams like the Jazz with Spider and...Gobert, I guess. Or Denver with Joker and, umm... Murray? Harris?

Why are these teams ahead of GS?

Yep, just seeing them now - one can realize how scary they can be next year. They can flip Wiggins + next year's lottery pick potentially for another nice piece, plus as you mentioned Klay will be back, and Wiseman will certainly be improved too.

[kellmuff]

long term prob KD. A player that wont be appreciated properly until he retires.

But in the short term there's no one I'd rather have than Curry. Think about what his prices will do in the lead up to and breaking of the 3 point record. To the F-in moon.

[kellmuff]

why are people saying that 'KD formed a superteam'

Joining the Nets that had Kyrie wasnt joining a superteam ffs. And he isnt the GM that brought in Harden. What a weird take.

[peanuts]

Steph, hands down.

He played a key part in high% 3pt shooting that's been greatly changing the way offenses work. Even if he went bust, he would be a very important figure in the history of the metagame of basketball.
He has all of the accolades going for him (AS, MVP, Champion, Scoring Leader, All-NBA, etc., first unanimous MVP), he was at the core of one of the greatest teams the game has seen, and is going to have MASSIVE counting stats at the end of his career.
Curry also hits the perfect storm for having high extrinsic value – huge Chinese fan base, excellent public image, brought rings to one of the wealthiest metro areas in the world, crossover appeal with the general public.

Durant is definitely undervalued, but he won't come close to Curry's level. Maybe if he wins some rings with Brooklyn, we start talking about serious competition, but until then, it's clearly a Curry favorite.

[Justin7]

The media does not hate KD

https://netswire.usatoday.com/2020/02/06/kevin-durant-on-medias-constant-criticism-they-wanna-bully-me/

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/kevin-durant-bemoans-medias-just-pure-hate-obviously-not-giving-awards-043343119.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/02/07/kevin-durant-is-fed-up-with-media-i-have-nothing-do-with-knicks/

https://theundefeated.com/features/kevin-durant-and-the-relationship-between-athletes-and-the-media/

https://netswire.usatoday.com/2020/02/06/kevin-durant-on-medias-constant-criticism-they-wanna-bully-me/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2819734-kevin-durant-i-just-dont-trust-media-i-have-nothing-to-do-with-the-knicks

[ninjacookies]

The other half of Curry's value (other being his otherworldly shooting) is the defensive attention he commands.

Arguably nobody else in the league causes more chaos for opposing defensive schemes. Curry can go 0-20 in a game and still have a positive net effect because of the doubles and triples he commands off screens. The easier looks it gives his teammates cannot be measured on a stat sheet.

That mexican dude last night basically had free reign to the hoop because of Curry's off-ball fakes.

[Ericc5Bears]

Since when has a hypothetical had any relation to truth.

The truth is, Durant has had 9 seasons to win a title without Curry and he’s 0-9.

Man, imagine if there was something like a western conference finals series between KD and Curry when they both had similarly talented teams. Since KD is apparently much more talented I'm sure he would win easily but I guess we'll never know ;)

[mfw13]

why are people saying that 'KD formed a superteam'

Joining the Nets that had Kyrie wasnt joining a superteam ffs. And he isnt the GM that brought in Harden. What a weird take.

He attempted to create a superteam by recruiting Kyrie to join the Nets with him.

[daeve]

why are people saying that 'KD formed a superteam'

Joining the Nets that had Kyrie wasnt joining a superteam ffs. And he isnt the GM that brought in Harden. What a weird take.

What a naive take.

They've been working out together for years. But go ahead and believe the guy who lies to media constantly over his career - and of course he would say he didn't, it's a hefty fine if he admits it. But from years ago when the rules were more lax, it was well-known they'd want to team up eventually.

https://i.imgur.com/e3VJmzll.png

https://i.imgur.com/uKaKjLml.png

[regularp]

Man, imagine if there was something like a western conference finals series between KD and Curry when they both had similarly talented teams. Since KD is apparently much more talented I'm sure he would win easily but I guess we'll never know ;)

People lose their minds and rationality when it comes to Curry. It's pretty remarkable.

They like to bring up Finals MVPs like Curry wasn't robbed in 2015 and the Cleveland defense was doing things like this in 2017 and 2018 because they were terrified of Curry getting hot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEBcN_BPBVw&ab_channel=RoundballRock

People don't like to look at KD's shooting numbers in the playoffs before he got to GS. I wonder why there was such a significant difference...

Curry wins 2015 Finals: Kyrie and Love were injured, doesn't count.
Curry loses 2016 Finals in seven games to who some on this board call the GOAT with a healthy Kyrie and Love while Bogut got injured and Draymond suspended: Curry is trash.

[Ericc5Bears]

People lose their minds and rationality when it comes to Curry. It's pretty remarkable.

They like to bring up Finals MVPs like Curry wasn't robbed in 2015 and the Cleveland defense was doing things like this in 2017 and 2018 because they were terrified of Curry getting hot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEBcN_BPBVw&ab_channel=RoundballRock

People don't like to look at KD's shooting numbers in the playoffs before he got to GS. I wonder why there was such a significant difference...

Curry wins 2015 Finals: Kyrie and Love were injured, doesn't count.
Curry loses 2016 Finals in seven games to who some on this board call the GOAT with a healthy Kyrie and Love while Bogut got injured and Draymond suspended: Curry is trash.

Yup, how could anyone ever forget this

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[clocsta2323]

I'd rather have Klay than either. Klay is a baller.

[eastbayak]

I'd rather have Klay than either. Klay is a baller.

As a die-hard Dubs fan, Klay is absolutely underrated and vital to the team's success.

[2010GBPackers]

As a die-hard Dubs fan, Klay is absolutely underrated and vital to the team's success.

I was wondering how many pages this would go before someone mentioned his name. It's a travesty, really. Klay, while not Curry, is just as good of a shooter and 5x better a defender, who always took the other teams' best scorer.

[lietuvalabas]

As a die-hard Dubs fan, Klay is absolutely underrated and vital to the team's success.

love curry, but Klay is my favorite NBA player. Curry may be the better shooter, but Klay's form is textbook/a work of art, and yes great defender.

[ballhawkdawk]

Klay is great, but no team is running an offense through him. He's the perfect #2 on almost any team.