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reddragonthe
03-22-2021, 06:28 PM
Talk about all the crazy Topps NOW stories and the $4 cards that are now $4k. Or $40. Or $400. Or $8.

Argue here. Help avoid people's heads exploding for reading things they aren't interested in on a public Internet forum. Plus keeps it organized.

I'll start with a neutral post that contains both positive and negative.

I have some Topps NOW. I like the Fauci. I like the Bernie. I like the Hoppe. I like the original Moukoko. In hindsight, I wish I had the original Haaland for the original price. I think a few others now and then are interesting and I've picked them up. I liked the Moukoko Bunde 150 even and he has a ton of NOW too.

I think the prices the cards are getting are nuts, though. Most of them. Maybe history will prove me wrong, but I think we are in a bubble and the second greatest example to me is Topps NOW (first is base that is mass produced but graded). It's like Project 2020 only the demise won't happen in a weekend. It is demand propped up by people chasing gains. There are very very few end state collectors buying up the 15th Haaland card from Topps NOW. At some point the music stops. It always does. And before you go and find that the 15th Haaland card was something cool and unique with a low PR to prove me wrong, I'm using it as an example.

I hope the music never stops on this. I hope that somehow people keep paying premiums for these Haaland cards.

Now everyone start fighting about it so I have stuff to read.

Gin&Juice
03-22-2021, 06:49 PM
Agree with everything you said! I like being able to get an early card of an interesting prospect or a card with a great pic capturing an iconic moment. I also like the ability to capture a key moment in the career of a guy I collect who may not otherwise get much hobby attention.

The 14th Topps Now card of a guy within 2 years because he scored two goals in game that helped his team clinch second place in the Bundesliga holds zero interest to me, as does a card noting that he was the fastest to 5 goals, follows by a card two weeks later that he was the fastest to 10 goals. And, I am firmly convinced that it is only non-collectors buying such cards based upon hysteria.

Chags
03-22-2021, 11:43 PM
Most of the Topps NOW cards do not interest me very much but occasionally one comes along I like. Overall I don't think they're a good investment barring the select few but they are a nice collector item for people who care about individual players/teams.

Phxcoyotes85
03-23-2021, 06:10 PM
I’m confused here, are Haaland Now cards outside of the first couple going for big money? Seems like this is a self correcting problem.

I really enjoy that you have the opportunity to pick up a card dedicated to a big moment you just experienced (well at least watched on tv, since we can’t actually attend right now) at a comparatively low cost. Particularly of those players that are often overlooked in major sets or debut players from squads I follow. Another significant plus in my view is that Topps Now cards generally have a clean, classically inspired design compared to the increasingly goofy looking sets (neon orange zebra stripes!) the industry is otherwise pumping out.

Malsk
03-24-2021, 09:36 AM
I think what is benefiting Topps Now Soccer it is the first RC for most players. Moukoko, Diallo, Pedri, etc.

Unlike Topps Now baseball, there are a ton of RC's for any player before the first Topps Now RC logo card (not call up).

DiamondDevil
03-24-2021, 12:06 PM
I think what is benefiting Topps Now Soccer it is the first RC for most players. Moukoko, Diallo, Pedri, etc.

Unlike Topps Now baseball, there are a ton of RC's for any player before the first Topps Now RC logo card (not call up).

Agreed. I think they're eating away at some of the sticker market. I'd expect Chrome/Finest RCs (if on checklist) to continue being the standard RC if those ever get released. Where Topps Now will be great are the players in UEFA competitions not quite good enough for those checklists and not covered by another license.

Mitch
03-25-2021, 08:40 AM
Just had my McKennie Topps Now arrive. Will post up a photo later, but it's the base auto on card. Looks good!

Phxcoyotes85
03-25-2021, 04:43 PM
Just had my McKennie Topps Now arrive. Will post up a photo later, but it's the base auto on card. Looks good!

Congrats!

Now I’m sad for missing out : (

Mitch
03-26-2021, 05:15 AM
Just had my McKennie Topps Now arrive. Will post up a photo later, but it's the base auto on card. Looks good!

Here it is :https://www.instagram.com/p/CM4MTI0s1_X/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CM4MTI0s1_X/

Over in here in EU, none of us got our cards in the Topps sealed one touches, just sent out in those little boxes they use for the standard on demand cards :doh:

reddragonthe
03-26-2021, 04:01 PM
Surprised a bit at the 8k print run here. Was kind of hoping it would be closer to 71 and 65 in size. I guess I wasn't alone in liking the idea of having a little Haaland in the background here. Usually they aren't paired on the field together so it made it way more interesting to me.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/JB0hw4.png (https://imageshack.com/i/poJB0hw4p)

Baseball515
03-26-2021, 04:35 PM
Aaronson and De La Fuente on Topps UCL good week for USMNT fan

THammers
03-26-2021, 09:05 PM
Talk about all the crazy Topps NOW stories and the $4 cards that are now $4k. Or $40. Or $400. Or $8.

Argue here. Help avoid people's heads exploding for reading things they aren't interested in on a public Internet forum. Plus keeps it organized.

I'll start with a neutral post that contains both positive and negative.

I have some Topps NOW. I like the Fauci. I like the Bernie. I like the Hoppe. I like the original Moukoko. In hindsight, I wish I had the original Haaland for the original price. I think a few others now and then are interesting and I've picked them up. I liked the Moukoko Bunde 150 even and he has a ton of NOW too.

I think the prices the cards are getting are nuts, though. Most of them. Maybe history will prove me wrong, but I think we are in a bubble and the second greatest example to me is Topps NOW (first is base that is mass produced but graded). It's like Project 2020 only the demise won't happen in a weekend. It is demand propped up by people chasing gains. There are very very few end state collectors buying up the 15th Haaland card from Topps NOW. At some point the music stops. It always does. And before you go and find that the 15th Haaland card was something cool and unique with a low PR to prove me wrong, I'm using it as an example.

I hope the music never stops on this. I hope that somehow people keep paying premiums for these Haaland cards.

Now everyone start fighting about it so I have stuff to read.

If you're a Haaland collector why wouldn't you want a card of his? Because it didn't come in a pack? The cards have some cool images and are easy gems if you're into that sort of thing. The crazy prices being paid is one thing but the up front print run is supported to some extent by collectors.

YayNJ
03-27-2021, 07:05 AM
The cards have some cool images and are easy gems if you're into that sort of thing.

They aren't really. NOW cards suffer from more surface marks than normal cards due to being on lower quality stock.

/edit to say - that's in my experience anyway. the last ones I bought in bulk were the Matthew Hoppe hat-trick card, and out of all of them only one was suitable for grading.

mwheeler27
03-27-2021, 08:58 AM
They aren't really. NOW cards suffer from more surface marks than normal cards due to being on lower quality stock.

/edit to say - that's in my experience anyway. the last ones I bought in bulk were the Matthew Hoppe hat-trick card, and out of all of them only one was suitable for grading.

Are you buying yours from the U.S. site or from another country like the U.K.?

The cards I get from the U.S. are high-quality card stock that would gem at a much higher rate than 1 in bulk orders.

ginko7
03-27-2021, 09:49 AM
Are you buying yours from the U.S. site or from another country like the U.K.?

The cards I get from the U.S. are high-quality card stock that would gem at a much higher rate than 1 in bulk orders.

Hello

US and Europe cards are printed on a different stock. Europe ones are softer and don't have that glossy layer on the front. I've never sent any card for grading but from what I understand about it it would be easier to get a good grade for US ones because of how the front looks. Also a few months back a lot of the ones I was getting directly had fingernail marks and dents, this has improved though. A lot of miscuts too, smaller size than usual. On the other hand they have better image quality - better colors imho and a bit sharper. I say that looking at my F1 cards since I have both versions of some.

mwheeler27
03-27-2021, 11:17 AM
Hello

US and Europe cards are printed on a different stock. Europe ones are softer and don't have that glossy layer on the front. I've never sent any card for grading but from what I understand about it it would be easier to get a good grade for US ones because of how the front looks. Also a few months back a lot of the ones I was getting directly had fingernail marks and dents, this has improved though. A lot of miscuts too, smaller size than usual. On the other hand they have better image quality - better colors imho and a bit sharper. I say that looking at my F1 cards since I have both versions of some.

Thank you for your post, and welcome to the forum!

That's what I was getting at with YayNJ's comment. He was quick to say, "NOW cards suffer from more surface marks than normal cards due to being on lower quality stock.", but that's not true from my experience buying from Topps U.S. They are high-quality cards on quality card stock.

YayNJ
03-27-2021, 01:51 PM
I was speaking from Topps UK viewpoint. I shall be purchasing from the US site and sending to my US address in future!

mwheeler27
04-24-2021, 04:31 AM
Talk about all the crazy Topps NOW stories and the $4 cards that are now $4k. Or $40. Or $400. Or $8.

Or... $15k. :eek:

Still a few hours left...

https://goldinauctions.com/catalog.aspx?searchby=3&searchvalue=Haaland

At the moment, the highly prized Haaland Topps NOW card #11 is outselling other lower print run RC cards from both standard/traditional Topps and Panini brands. The only one doing better is the Finest Gold refractor /50 at $22,000.

Don’t sleep on the NOW brand, ladies and gents. It’s quickly being proven as becoming a hobby staple, as it should.

(For the record...None of those cards at Goldine are mine. I have not and will not be bidding on the grail #11 since I already have mine)

World Cup 2022 around the corner. WC 2026 coming to America. Can anyone give a legitimate reason why people should stay away from Topps NOW soccer cards right now? Especially given current secondary market pricing across the board?

It’s not too late at all to jump on this unstoppable freight train. You’ll want to get in before the haters that stubbornly swore off the NOW brand finally come to their senses. ;)

Patrick Hamill
05-04-2021, 09:40 AM
They aren't really. NOW cards suffer from more surface marks than normal cards due to being on lower quality stock.

/edit to say - that's in my experience anyway. the last ones I bought in bulk were the Matthew Hoppe hat-trick card, and out of all of them only one was suitable for grading.

Wish I had read this before I ordered my first Topps Now cards. At least I just dipped my toe and didnt spend big - ordered 5 Jamal Musiala cards and only one didnt have really bad surfaces marks/scores/indents.
YayNJ, did you complain to Topps, and if you did, did you get any response?

YayNJ
05-04-2021, 09:59 AM
Did you buy from Topps US or Topps EU?

We've all come to the conclusion that Topps US NOW is printed on slightly better, thicker stock.

I didn't complain. I've given up complaining to Topps. I ordered some Vladimir Guerrero Jr Living RC's from them an eon ago and they arrived damaged, and after numerous messages I'm yet to get a reply.

Patrick Hamill
05-04-2021, 10:37 AM
Did you buy from Topps US or Topps EU?

We've all come to the conclusion that Topps US NOW is printed on slightly better, thicker stock.

I didn't complain. I've given up complaining to Topps. I ordered some Vladimir Guerrero Jr Living RC's from them an eon ago and they arrived damaged, and after numerous messages I'm yet to get a reply.

Yeh, it was Topps UK. Just Looked at their guidance and it says they only have to replace if the card would grade below 8, so I probably wouldnt get anywhere with a complaint about surface indents. Thanks for the response.

reddragonthe
05-04-2021, 11:18 AM
I'm a firm believer that on-demand or not, if I'm running Topps, I'm definitely not doing a lot of replacements especially for damage. I'd need to potentially hire dozens/hundreds of more people if all of a sudden people with PSA 8s could send them in with a box top and get a PSA 10. It's just not a sustainable model.

YayNJ
05-04-2021, 11:42 AM
I'm a firm believer that on-demand or not, if I'm running Topps, I'm definitely not doing a lot of replacements especially for damage. I'd need to potentially hire dozens/hundreds of more people if all of a sudden people with PSA 8s could send them in with a box top and get a PSA 10. It's just not a sustainable model.

I agree with you - but in my case, my Vlad RC's came looking like they had just done 12 rounds with mike tyson.

Mitch
05-04-2021, 03:41 PM
Cade Cowell had back to back Topps Now (rightly). Second year for him. Prefer this weeks with the portrait card.

DiamondDevil
05-04-2021, 04:15 PM
Cade Cowell had back to back Topps Now (rightly). Second year for him. Prefer this weeks with the portrait card.

Nice, broad selection this week. I'm interested to see the Cowell PR from last week.

Mitch
05-04-2021, 05:45 PM
Nice, broad selection this week. I'm interested to see the Cowell PR from last week.


It was 852.

IndySportsCards
06-13-2021, 10:32 AM
Having opened a box of 2020-21 Chrome Friday I'm starting to think the Topps now cards I picked up all year were the better buy due to condition issues on the Chrome.

I will buy no more Chrome as these cards are pure rubbish with significant dents, scratches, chipping.

I'd like to think it was just my box, but I'm seeing it being reported by multiple sources.

For $550-600 a box, this just should not happen, and it's not like we didn't wait through delay after delay either.

ac1992
06-13-2021, 10:41 AM
Having opened a box of 2020-21 Chrome Friday I'm starting to think the Topps now cards I picked up all year were the better buy due to condition issues on the Chrome.

I will buy no more Chrome as these cards are pure rubbish with significant dents, scratches, chipping.

I'd like to think it was just my box, but I'm seeing it being reported by multiple sources.

For $550-600 a box, this just should not happen, and it's not like we didn't wait through delay after delay either.

Was this from Italy as well? Seems most of the chrome product is been printed there with issues, andwe saw it in Chrome and Chrome Sapphire on F1.

It is amazing that the more expensive box has far more issues than topps now but that is the case.

Also, I've started to buy a lot more topps now recently, not sure how valuable it'll be, but I picked up 10 of the Moreno and 10 of the Rulli Villarreal cards each, both have parallels to 1 and 10, and the print run is 437 for Moreno and 403 for Rulli, so basically a 1 in 40 chance with moreno, and a 1 in 37 chance with Rulli of hitting a parallel.