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Deadshot
08-15-2021, 07:02 AM
https://i.ibb.co/CzN5KyS/195-of-199-swapped-watermark.jpg

I took a bunch of pictures of RPA's at the National and I'm just getting around to looking through them.

As noted on my tracker (https://sites.google.com/view/waxmuseumpodcast/anthony-davis-rpa-199-tracker), card 195/199 was pulled and posted on YouTube on 8/13/2013 at the 6:10 mark.

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https://i.ibb.co/MGM0dk7/195-of-199-on-camera.jpg

Here's a scan of the card from when it was for sale (pulled from Worthpoint before the site purged all card data).

https://i.ibb.co/bmqnFv6/195-of-199.jpg

Here's a picture I took at the National this year. Same serial number and auto is the exact same. This one is pretty cut and dry:

https://i.ibb.co/r3sFMtj/195-of-199-bgs9-fake-patch.jpg

Slabbed by BGS in 2016 (https://www.beckett.com/grading/card-lookup?item_type=BGS&item_id=0009408455&g-recaptcha-response=03AGdBq27BGcIanwEjpYI2Wg456hATqD8HyM7yzJCdq7-FLyfnJcYWXVvabhHK_ExAsTJUZZoAJVxmVB7NuHVolicdquuZ7ZlhvN-m7VH6Y4812imG4ghzOcMFCJVoNvlKYeGcyzOWaYkko4SU2UmOgedU6kvm3OWel7_bfs2oVPlaV75LT9YPm-WiRAFMh9M9AVDNTwkUPyXCzTfvCyikHNAOUhl4Xt3sJ7fp1e6PNe42OBml0hlTsCeLHYfJTyEuwjyPFRvTzC3XKpRA5h2qrStQ58Ucq-xFC7dlMtBIcQ8gCw0J_qriowW5oalixErwEFR3JgHwt8OlqsSrArI6HaLxVR0oD4Y1HirT4hSjpzhZputnakqhaGpjYS1huvyC3Yz8tSlF7XHKQ6fTVh_l2AdcHVnoy3w_Nv5RTa2C8dhB4H2Hzp8EdviZsdSN3q9AiFCQsCXXm9ElDBv4VJwL-SYZvUX7xE3Y0wUezZelaMmGzgM3Sk_Xifb6guGMHWpi3JJIds_DipM31O9_WkpWmkiIEqO_qyWAvQ&hiddenRecaptcha=&submit=Submit&submit=Submit)

https://i.imgflip.com/5jnt4z.jpg

They authenticate the card and not the patch. And these aren't obvious without keeping a database. This one has gone undetected for 5 years. The last one I uncovered had gone even longer.

That brings our new total to 7 known copies.

"Never get cheated"
"Look closely"
"Buy wisely"

https://i.ibb.co/sH9CwV1/all-swapped-patches-GUIDE.jpg
chuckerrrr
08-15-2021, 07:43 AM
Great work. I wonder if these where all done by the same person? Your thoughts.


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bmf
08-15-2021, 07:54 AM
What a shame. Any alteration to a card makes it worthless to me. I will never knowingly add an altered card to my collection or keep an altered card in my collection. The manipulation of the card completely ruins it. Thanks for your great detective work as always!
Eighty5Hundo
08-15-2021, 08:00 AM
Why do people do this? Are they trying to reconstruct the jersey lol. How valuable can an inch swatch of a jesey be without the card?
jcardstore
08-15-2021, 08:06 AM
Why do people do this? Are they trying to reconstruct the jersey lol. How valuable can an inch swatch of a jesey be without the card?

So the seller can put SICK NASTY ULTRA MOJO EBAY 1/1 10 COLOR PATCH when he sales his card
Deadshot
08-15-2021, 08:49 AM
Great work. I wonder if these where all done by the same person? Your thoughts.


There had to have been a second spitter
https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-07-2018/f9g6RI.gif

What a shame. Any alteration to a card makes it worthless to me. I will never knowingly add an altered card to my collection or keep an altered card in my collection. The manipulation of the card completely ruins it. Thanks for your great detective work as always!

Thank you!

Why do people do this? Are they trying to reconstruct the jersey lol. How valuable can an inch swatch of a jesey be without the card?

Greed
mjohnatgt
08-15-2021, 09:07 AM
They all look like the same jersey was cut up, based on the patch overlaid on the same color in every replacement. May be a serial filler.
volblorx8634
08-15-2021, 09:18 AM
Really unfortunate obviously. Thanks for looking out for the hobby!
GeechQuest
08-15-2021, 09:34 AM
Kyle this is truly insane that you do this detective work and data collecting. I say this from a place of laziness.
JeffG1954
08-15-2021, 09:41 AM
It would be great if there was a way to trace all of these back to first siting, and then see if there was a point where they were all in same persons possession.

Truly great work....worthy of BODA nomination.
Deadshot
08-15-2021, 09:49 AM
They all look like the same jersey was cut up, based on the patch overlaid on the same color in every replacement. May be a serial filler.

My guess is some of them are some of the better pieces from Austin Rivers or Lance Thomas cards.

Really unfortunate obviously. Thanks for looking out for the hobby!

Thanks!

Kyle this is truly insane that you do this detective work and data collecting. I say this from a place of laziness.

My hope is that everyone finds some niche to target and we can become a way more informed collecting community in the long run. You do a great job with inserts.

It would be great if there was a way to trace all of these back to first siting, and then see if there was a point where they were all in same persons possession.

Truly great work....worthy of BODA nomination.

Probably possible to trace this one, but I'll leave that work to someone else.
auburn35
08-15-2021, 11:08 AM
Excellent work, tracking these fake patches.

The very next BGS number is also an Anthony Davis NT RPA. Might need to research the history on that one, as well.
Deadshot
08-15-2021, 11:38 AM
Excellent work, tracking these fake patches.

The very next BGS number is also an Anthony Davis NT RPA. Might need to research the history on that one, as well.

There were 5 or 6 of them in the same case at the National, so I figure it's one of those.
BartvH
08-16-2021, 12:09 PM
Great work Kyle!
Mattsurewood
08-16-2021, 01:44 PM
They all look like the same jersey was cut up, based on the patch overlaid on the same color in every replacement. May be a serial filler.

I laughed out loud in my office--fantastic!

It's a shame people do this, gotta be careful. I bought an Alexander Ovechkin The Cup numbered 9/99 that had a bad patch--I was fortunate enough to sell it to an Ovechkin Supercollector who knew it was fake, and still wanted the card, as it is his best RC...