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astudillodude64
09-24-2021, 04:15 PM
Hello! I thought orange is supposed to be /25, I opened a hobby case and got a duran orange /75, and then next a Pineda orange /75. It is clearly orange as I used the “yellow parallel” to compare. How do I go about selling these orange parallels /75? Should I contact Topps?


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brios8
09-24-2021, 04:27 PM
I have seen on Ebay both Orange /25 and /75..

maybe:
- some players have a print run of /25 and others /75
- they did mix up certain players with the /75 and should have simply said /25
- they mixed up certain players Orange/Yellow Stamps (haven't seen a Yellow with a /25 though)
- there are two tones of orange lol (doubt it)

would be interesting to find out

speedyjg13
09-24-2021, 04:40 PM
Hello! I thought orange is supposed to be /25, I opened a hobby case and got a duran orange /75, and then next a Pineda orange /75. It is clearly orange as I used the “yellow parallel” to compare. How do I go about selling these orange parallels /75? Should I contact Topps?


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you list them as orange parallels serial numbered to 75. that's what the card is. it's orange and numbered to 75. its not an orange /25.

brios8
09-24-2021, 04:41 PM
you list them as orange parallels serial numbered to 75. that's what the card is. it's orange and numbered to 75. its not an orange /25.

I get that. but why are some Orange /25 and others Orange /75?

there must be an explanation

RW3FAN
09-24-2021, 04:43 PM
I get that. but why are some Orange /25 and others Orange /75?

there must be an explanation

Like in Topps Chrome they have Pink NOT numbered, and then Pink numbered and there is NO difference in color at all.

thomlch
09-24-2021, 04:45 PM
This is in the Chrome main thread.

brios8
09-24-2021, 04:53 PM
Like in Topps Chrome they have Pink NOT numbered, and then Pink numbered and there is NO difference in color at all.

so if its the same color your saying all players Have an orange /25 and orange /75 ?

100 orange cards per player?

marterburn
09-24-2021, 04:53 PM
Cliff's notes of what's in the BC thread:

Topps tweeted about a month ago that this mistake was known to them. Rather than push back the release, they told us about it.

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Gotta call them Orange /75. It's not the entire run.

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brios8
09-24-2021, 04:55 PM
Cliff's notes of what's in the BC thread:

Topps tweeted about a month ago that this mistake was known to them. Rather than push back the release, they told us about it.

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Gotta call them Orange /75. It's not the entire run.

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:eek:
but what exactly is the mistake?
it could be one of many things like mentioned above

speedyjg13
09-24-2021, 04:55 PM
so if its the same color your saying all players Have an orange /25 and orange /75 ?

100 orange cards per player?

no

they have 25 orange cards and 75 orange cards.

they have 100 orange colored cards though if that's what you are referring to

brios8
09-24-2021, 04:57 PM
no

they have 25 orange cards and 75 orange cards.

they have 100 orange colored cards though if that's what you are referring to

What I'm asking then is.. do some players have ONLY an orange /25 while some ONLY have an orange /75

or do all players have an Orange /25 and an Orange /75 = 100 orange cards/player

marterburn
09-24-2021, 04:57 PM
:eek:
but what exactly is the mistake?
it could be one of many things like mentioned aboveThere was an error with the PMS color at the printer, is what they said. We now know it's -- they just used the Orange PMS color instead of the Yellow PMS color.

We don't yet know if it's every player.

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hermanotarjeta
09-24-2021, 04:59 PM
The /75 is a tangerine parallel. Haha.

brios8
09-24-2021, 05:00 PM
There was an error with the PMS color at the printer, is what they said. We now know it's -- they just used the Orange PMS color instead of the Yellow PMS color.

We don't yet know if it's every player.

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oh ok. so what Im getting from your message is that
some players won't have a Yellow /75, but instead have an Orange /75 on top of every player having their regular orange /25 ?

ScooterD
09-24-2021, 05:05 PM
Good luck determining a good multiplier for these

SupermanBrandon
09-24-2021, 05:18 PM
Sooooo....its not a "HUGE MESS UP!"?

rngrdanny22
09-24-2021, 05:32 PM
Sooooo....its not a "HUGE MESS UP!"?


Catastrophic.
Cataclysmic.
Calamitous.

speedyjg13
09-24-2021, 09:14 PM
What I'm asking then is.. do some players have ONLY an orange /25 while some ONLY have an orange /75

or do all players have an Orange /25 and an Orange /75 = 100 orange cards/player

I dont know

Sooooo....its not a "HUGE MESS UP!"?

It's not

pete2345
09-24-2021, 09:29 PM
The cards get uglier every year.

jcfill
09-24-2021, 09:33 PM
Huge mess up!! Ssp error?? Invest!!!

Jblaw1
09-24-2021, 10:42 PM
Interesting issue will be whether each person has a yellow out of 75 and an orange /75, and then if so are all 75 of the orange or are there only a few sheets that had the orange error.

Bambino22
09-24-2021, 10:54 PM
Impact redemptions? Or they have time to fix those?

MoreToppsPlease
09-25-2021, 01:53 AM
I’m thinking this is related to Topps significantly cutting their budgeted capital expenses budget…:doh:

BaseballKing
09-25-2021, 02:47 AM
I noticed that they dispensed with the hard plastic cases and foam in HTA this year. That might be a sign that they are going to go the cheapest possible route from here on. Those cases are cool. I think they are the same as the Topps Now/HR Challenge ones.

seanbros55
09-25-2021, 09:27 AM
I wonder if Fanatic plans to regularly F$&? S#!+ up like this too?

oldgoldy97
09-25-2021, 09:31 AM
I wonder if Fanatic plans to regularly F$&? S#!+ up like this too?

No. They will be perfect and every box will be $10 and contain Trout/Tatis/Shohei or Vlad autos.

kookoox10
09-25-2021, 11:03 AM
I was checking out the checklist on Cardboard Connection and they acknowledged the print issue Topps had. They inadvertently printed cards intended to be on the Canary Yellow stock on the Orange stock. So now there are /25 and /75 of the same color.

ScooterD
09-25-2021, 11:04 AM
I was checking out the checklist on Cardboard Connection and they acknowledged the print issue Topps had. They inadvertently printed cards intended to be on the Canary Yellow stock on the Orange stock. So now there are /25 and /75 of the same color.

So it would seem that some players have zero yellows and oranges are actually /100

marterburn
09-25-2021, 11:21 AM
I was checking out the checklist on Cardboard Connection and they acknowledged the print issue Topps had. They inadvertently printed cards intended to be on the Canary Yellow stock on the Orange stock. So now there are /25 and /75 of the same color.Just to be clear, the unprinted 'color stock' for chrome -- is the silvery mirror, not a colored stock. It's a matter of the ink they printed -- whether it was a bad order callout from Topps or if the the printer made the mistake is ambiguous, but they used the Orange PMS color instead of the Yellow PMS color.

Until we see some 'cross-pollination' with specific players having Orange /75 & Yellow /75, we can assume that some players will have 100 orange and 0 yellow, and the others are done correctly.

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auctionjmm
09-25-2021, 12:02 PM
Just to be clear, the unprinted 'color stock' for chrome -- is the silvery mirror, not a colored stock. It's a matter of the ink they printed -- whether it was a bad order callout from Topps or if the the printer made the mistake is ambiguous, but they used the Orange PMS color instead of the Yellow PMS color.

Until we see some 'cross-pollination' with specific players having Orange /75 & Yellow /75, we can assume that some players will have 100 orange and 0 yellow, and the others are done correctly.

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Not to split hairs but the true oranges are definitely brighter/bolder. I have the Pedro Leon /75 and /25. The /25 looks fantastic. The /75 just looks weird. I would hope the true orange still sells like a true orange but you never know.

marterburn
09-25-2021, 12:07 PM
Not to split hairs but the true oranges are definitely brighter/bolder. I have the Pedro Leon /75 and /25. The /25 looks fantastic. The /75 just looks weird. I would hope the true orange still sells like a true orange but you never know.This is good first-hand info most of us don't have -- mind posting a side-by-side?

Maybe it makes it worth it to chase for rainbows?

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AwesomeBrian
09-25-2021, 12:30 PM
I wonder if Fanatic plans to regularly F$&? S#!+ up like this too?

They will likely be using the same printing companies as Topps and Panini, so expect wrong colors on your Topps Fanatics Chrome Fanaticsfractor and the same print lines and roller marks on your Panini Select Fanatics Neon Prizm Slime Green Fanaticsgasm parallels

AwesomeBrian
09-25-2021, 12:31 PM
I noticed that they dispensed with the hard plastic cases and foam in HTA this year. That might be a sign that they are going to go the cheapest possible route from here on. Those cases are cool. I think they are the same as the Topps Now/HR Challenge ones.

Or they are hard to acquire with overseas issues... same with leaf not toploading their products any more

kookoox10
09-25-2021, 12:33 PM
I have a Colmenarez base orange /75 and have an orange ref auto /25 to compare to. The /75 orange seems darker compared to the /25 type. I'll have to see about posting pictures when I get back from my trip.

caulaflour
09-25-2021, 12:39 PM
Speaking of mess ups: I opened an HTA box today. One of my three autos was an Ismael Mena Green/99. I checked the list and, as I thought, he's not on the checklist. It's an auto from Bowman (it's the same pick, same everything).

ScooterD
09-25-2021, 01:36 PM
Not to split hairs but the true oranges are definitely brighter/bolder. I have the Pedro Leon /75 and /25. The /25 looks fantastic. The /75 just looks weird. I would hope the true orange still sells like a true orange but you never know.

I have a Colmenarez base orange /75 and have an orange ref auto /25 to compare to. The /75 orange seems darker compared to the /25 type. I'll have to see about posting pictures when I get back from my trip.

Topps has been using different orange hues for years. There was a discussion on it regarding the auto and non-auto versions of 2011 Bowman Draft. I’ll search for the thread and post a link, as I think it has side-by-side pics to compare.

EDIT: couldn’t find the thread, but here is a side-by-side

https://sportscardalbum.com/c/wm3e9vk3.jpeg (https://sportscardalbum.com/card/wm3e9vk3/n-a)