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rwperu34
12-15-2021, 04:56 AM
Headline number is....incomplete. There were zero Mike Trout sales in the time frame. I've always been on the fence on having Trout in there because of the threat of being Pujols'd. What I mean by that is Albert Pujols is obviously one of the top Bowman Chrome Autos of all time, but I've never had him in the index. When it sells it sells for a pantload of cash, but they hardly ever sell. Makes it tough to gauge the market because you're always relying on the whim of one sale.

Headline Number

The headline number for the non Trout portion of the market is +25%. Quite a bit disappointing, especially given the start we had. To put it in index form;

Nov 2017: 100
Nov 2018: 130
Nov 2019: 155
Nov 2020: 235
Nov 2021: 295

In Season Breakdown

Here's the index at a few checkpoints during the season.

Nov 2020: 235
Jan 2021: 345
Apr 2021: 390
Jun 2021: 305
Sep 2021: 315
Nov 2021: 295

"Class" Breakdown

This is their classification at the start of the year (eg Wander is with the prospects)

Graduates (26 or older in 2021), +1%
Young MLB (25 and under), +26%
Prospects, +39%

Average Player

This will be my new go to metric for evaluating my performance. Instead of weighting by dollars I'll just take the straight average of all players. It gets kind of funky at the bottom of the list (ie guys who shouldn't be in the index....like Gallo!), but overall I think this is a better measure for self evaluation. The reason for that is just because a player is cheap doesn't mean you can't spend as much or more on any given player. For example I'm about even on Adell and Paredes despite Adell being 20x more expensive. I just have better and more cards of Paredes.

Overall, +15%
Graduate, Even
Young, +1%
Prospects, +32%

The median player was down 1.5 % (not bad, actually). Only 23 of 66 were up enough to cover fees.

Gainers and Losers

I count anything +/- 10% as a wash.

Overall, 29 up, 28 down, 9 tie.
Graduate, 5-6-1
Young, 9-12-4
Prospect, 15-10-4

As you can see, every metric points to prospects as the best investment this year. That is not always the case.

Biggest % gainers: Vlad, Witt, Jesus Sanchez, J-Rod, Alek Thomas. All five up over 2x.

Biggest $ gainers: Vlad, Tatis, Wander. Big gap between all three, then another big gap to a group of 5 players.

Biggest % losers: Keston Hiura, Andres Gimenez, Kyle Lewis, Taylor Trammell

Biggest $ losers: Bellinger, Lindor, Adell, Gleyber.

The Martian is down 13% (not bad) and in the next group for biggest dollar losers. I have a feeling 2022 is going to be a very volatile year for him.

seanrs1
12-15-2021, 11:03 AM
Can you please list the players included in your index?

Silent George
12-15-2021, 12:08 PM
this is fantastic.

rroboo
12-15-2021, 12:51 PM
Biggest % gainers: Vlad, Witt, Jesus Sanchez, J-Rod, Alek Thomas. All five up over 2x.


Curious about how this player is in your biggest % gainers. I haven't seen movement.

rwperu34
12-16-2021, 02:54 AM
Curious about how this player is in your biggest % gainers. I haven't seen movement.

Started at $38 last November. Bumped to $68 by January, then jumped to $85 between July and September, then scaled back a little to $80 this November. So most of his gain was early and not only did he not slide back from peak, he bumped up a little.

rwperu34
12-16-2021, 02:58 AM
Can you please list the players included in your index?

The 2021 List

Graduates (26+ in 2021)

Alonso,Peter
Betts,Mookie
Bogaerts,Xander
Bregman,Alex
Bryant,Kris
Correa,Carlos
Gallo,Joey
Harper,Bryce
Judge,Aaron
Lindor,Francisco
Machado,Manny
Seager,Corey
Trout,Mike

Young MLB (25 and under)

Acuna,Ronald
Albies,Ozzie
Alvarez,Yordan
Bellinger,Cody
Bichette,Bo
Bohm,Alec
Devers,Rafael
Gimenez,Andres
Guerrero,Vlad Jr.
Hiura,Keston
Jimenez,Eloy
Kieboom,Carter
Lewis,Kyle
Lux,Gavin
Mejia,Francisco
Mondesi,Adalberto
Robert,Luis
Robles,Victor
Rodgers,Brendan
Soto,Juan
Tatis,Fernando
Torres,Gleyber
Tucker,Kyle
Urias,Luis
Verdugo,Alex

Prospect

Abrams,C.J.
Adell,Jo
Bart,Joey
Bleday,JJ
Carroll,Corbin
Dominguez,Jasson
Franco,Wander
Garcia,Luis
Gorman,Nolan
Green,Riley
Groshans,Jordan
Hayes,Ke'Bryan
Kelenic,Jared
Kirilloff,Alex
Lewis,Royce
Luciano,Marco
Madrigral,Nick
Marte,Noelvi
Perdomo,Geraldo
Ramos,Heliot
Rodriguez,Julio
Ruiz,Keibert
Rutschman,Adley
Sanchez,Jesus
Thomas,Alek
Trammell,Taylor
Vaughn,Andrew
Waters,Drew
Witt,Bobby

rwperu34
12-16-2021, 03:01 AM
The 2022 List;

Graduates (Age 26+ in 2022)

Alonso,Peter
Bellinger,Cody
Betts,Mookie
Bogaerts,Xander
Bregman,Alex
Bryant,Kris
Correa,Carlos
Gallo,Joey
Harper,Bryce
Judge,Aaron
Lindor,Francisco
Machado,Manny
Mondesi,Adalberto
Seager,Corey

Young MLB (25 and under)

Acuna,Ronald
Adell,Jo
Albies,Ozzie
Alvarez,Yordan
Badoo,Akil
Bichette,Bo
Bohm,Alec
Carlson,Dylan
Devers,Rafael
Franco,Wander
Garcia,Luis
Guerrero,Vlad Jr.
Hayes,Ke'Bryan
Jimenez,Eloy
Kelenic,Jared
Kirilloff,Alex
Lux,Gavin
Madrigral,Nick
Paredes,Isaac
Robert,Luis
Robles,Victor
Rodgers,Brendan
Ruiz,Keibert
Sanchez,Jesus
Soto,Juan
Tatis,Fernando
Torres,Gleyber
Tucker,Kyle
Vaughn,Andrew

Prospect

Abrams,C.J.
Alvarez,Francisco
Bart,Joey
Bleday,JJ
Carroll,Corbin
Casas,Triston
Davis,Brennan
Dominguez,Jasson
Gorman,Nolan
Green,Riley
Groshans,Jordan
Lewis,Royce
Luciano,Marco
Marte,Noelvi
Perdomo,Geraldo
Pratto,Nick
Ramos,Heliot
Rodriguez,Julio
Rutschman,Adley
Thomas,Alek
Torkelson,Spencer
Volpe,Anthony
Waters,Drew
Witt,Bobby

rwperu34
12-16-2021, 03:05 AM
One thing I just noticed. I had 67 players in the index in 2021. I have done adds and drops for 2022 and ended up with...67 players. That is not some magic number that I am targeting. It just ended up that way. That said, I meant to have 68 players in it last year but somehow Dylan Carlson didn't make it. I don't know if I just forgot to add him or if I started with him and accidentally deleted him at some point.

seanrs1
12-16-2021, 09:31 AM
The 2021 List

Graduates (26+ in 2021)

Alonso,Peter
Betts,Mookie
Bogaerts,Xander
Bregman,Alex
Bryant,Kris
Correa,Carlos
Gallo,Joey
Harper,Bryce
Judge,Aaron
Lindor,Francisco
Machado,Manny
Seager,Corey
Trout,Mike

Young MLB (25 and under)

Acuna,Ronald
Albies,Ozzie
Alvarez,Yordan
Bellinger,Cody
Bichette,Bo
Bohm,Alec
Devers,Rafael
Gimenez,Andres
Guerrero,Vlad Jr.
Hiura,Keston
Jimenez,Eloy
Kieboom,Carter
Lewis,Kyle
Lux,Gavin
Mejia,Francisco
Mondesi,Adalberto
Robert,Luis
Robles,Victor
Rodgers,Brendan
Soto,Juan
Tatis,Fernando
Torres,Gleyber
Tucker,Kyle
Urias,Luis
Verdugo,Alex

Prospect

Abrams,C.J.
Adell,Jo
Bart,Joey
Bleday,JJ
Carroll,Corbin
Dominguez,Jasson
Franco,Wander
Garcia,Luis
Gorman,Nolan
Green,Riley
Groshans,Jordan
Hayes,Ke'Bryan
Kelenic,Jared
Kirilloff,Alex
Lewis,Royce
Luciano,Marco
Madrigral,Nick
Marte,Noelvi
Perdomo,Geraldo
Ramos,Heliot
Rodriguez,Julio
Ruiz,Keibert
Rutschman,Adley
Sanchez,Jesus
Thomas,Alek
Trammell,Taylor
Vaughn,Andrew
Waters,Drew
Witt,Bobby

Thank you!