Calvin Ridley Suspended For 2022 For Betting On Games

[88horsepower]

"NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell today suspended Calvin Ridley of the Atlanta Falcons indefinitely through at least the conclusion of the 2022 season for betting on NFL games in the 2021 season," a league statement reads. "The activity took place during a five-day period in late November 2021 while Ridley was not with the team and was away from the club's facility on the non-football illness list."

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/nfl-suspends-calvin-ridley-for-2022-season-for-gambling-on-games-203551406.html

[altaeria]

Promo Code: MentalHealth

[Soxrule111]

Wow, this could get interesting.

Is Fantasy Football Allowed when you ARE playing, if he was inactive on the Non Football List I would almost think this should be allowed.

But yikes

[Ferg1945]

:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

Is this why he didn't play much in 2021? Just 5 games and never returned.

[brothertona]

At least the Falcons are now under the cap!

[Whodatiz]

Bama boys are wild.

[Eckstein197]

Wow, this could get interesting.

Is Fantasy Football Allowed when you ARE playing, if he was inactive on the Non Football List I would almost think this should be allowed.

But yikes

Fantasy football? This is in regards to gambling on games, he was caught making parlays. nothing to do with fantasy football

[jlzinck]

F the NFL. They are printing money with gambling websites, Fricken hypocrites

[Archangel1775]

Seems like it was more than a parlay during his time off with the suspension length. Besides, why in the world is he using his own phone and name to bet. Have your friend or cousin do it, jeez.

[Gurds]

https://twitter.com/CalvinRidley1/status/1500939522632302594?t=VsLWgLrEcenBiPdH8ihONw&s=19

[fungi2510]

Seems like it was more than a parlay during his time off with the suspension length. Besides, why in the world is he using his own phone and name to bet. Have your friend or cousin do it, jeez.

He has publicly stated that he is not well. I am sure that plays quite a bit of it. Just a sad situation. The NFL knows that it can just recycle these guys like it was nothing. Next man up.

[jplarson]

He stepped away from football on 10/31/2021.
Falcons placed him on the NFI list on 11/05/2021.
He allegedly made some parlay bets during a five-day period late November, 2021.
Falcons were made aware of the investigation on 02/09/2022.
**I assume he was formally suspended on 02/15 or 02/16/2022 based on the below.
Ridley may apply for reinstatement starting on 02/15/2023.

There's nothing to say he wasn't working through some mental health items and then did some gambling which, for now, appears to be isolated to Week 12 most likely? I hope he's able to get the mental health treatment he sought and is able to come back in 2023. He was a fun player to watch.

Falcons have some options (https://www.si.com/nfl/falcons/news/will-calvin-ridley-be-back-in-2022) if they want to keep Ridley. They exercised his 5th year option but due to him going on the NFI list during his fourth year, they can basically get a mulligan and pay him his 4th year rookie salary again, $1.97mm, then have him for year 5 at $11.1mm.


F the NFL. They are printing money with gambling websites, Fricken hypocrites


Agree!

[Fenway55]

Wow, this could get interesting.

Is Fantasy Football Allowed when you ARE playing, if he was inactive on the Non Football List I would almost think this should be allowed.

But yikesI don't know for certain, but I would assume non-monetary FFL's are allowed for players.

I saw a great tweet: Ridley bet $1,500 - and lost $10 million.

[coltsnsox07]

If he picked Atl to lose he made some good coin..

[majestik101]

Whoopsie Daisy!

:cry:. :cry:

[majestik101]

Also


Siberian13 where you at

[EBCollectibles]

I don't know for certain, but I would assume non-monetary FFL's are allowed for players.

I saw a great tweet: Ridley bet $1,500 - and lost $10 million.

If you believe he just bet $1500 I got some ocean front property in Kentucky for sale for $4 an acre. Ban him for good.. We already know athletes aren't the brightest lights in the house now he confirmed it.

[BostonNut]

Also


Siberian13 where you at

He knows the Falcons can't have anything nice. :coffee:

First the Falcants get busted for pumping in crowd noise and now this. Scumbag cheating organization. :coffee:

[rms13]

This is the same NFL that put a franchise is Vegas and partners with Draftkings and Fanduel?

[jplarson]

Ban him for good..

Why stop there?

[bloodwings19]

If Calvin Ridley was Michael Jordan, it would be a slap in the hand.

[no10pin]

If Calvin Ridley was Michael Jordan, it would be a slap in the hand.

Or they'd make him go play hockey for a year or something

[mc1]

If Calvin Ridley was Michael Jordan, it would be a slap in the hand.

:confused:

Jordan was sus… er retired nearly a year and a half. :)!

The guy wasnt even playing or active with the team. Any discipline seems a little harsh.

[EBCollectibles]

Why stop there?

Ban him for good will be enough. Why you want them to give a spanking or a slap on the wrist?

[preakness]

NFL is not saying gambling is bad

They're saying players shouldn't bet on games

I don't understand why some are pointing out fact there is a team in Vegas, partnership with FanDuel , Draft Kings

It's not ok if a player, coach, or owner bet on sports

[mc1]

NFL is not saying gambling is bad

They're saying players shouldn't bet on games

I don't understand why some are pointing out fact there is a team in Vegas, partnership with FanDuel , Draft Kings

It's not ok if a player, coach, or owner bet on sports

He wasnt even playing with the team, correct?

[49erRCCollector]

Weird. So it happened while he was away from the team?

He couldn't affect the outcome, right?

If it's a rule, its a rule, though.

[mc1]

Weird. So it happened while he was away from the team?

He couldn't affect the outcome, right?

If it's a rule, its a rule, though.

Parlays also are bets with multiple games. So he wasnt betting on just one team.

[49erRCCollector]

Parlays also are bets with multiple games. So he wasnt betting on just one team.

Copy that - I'm just saying if he bet while not with the team (or actively in the NFL) the damage would be less, even from a precedent point of view.

Maybe this is just self-sabotage?

[88horsepower]

From one therapist to anyone who cares, Gambling Addiction is a diagnosable mental health condition and it's very often co-morbid with other mental health disorders.

[EBCollectibles]

He wasnt even playing with the team, correct?

So that makes it right?

[rms13]

NFL is not saying gambling is bad

They're saying players shouldn't bet on games

I don't understand why some are pointing out fact there is a team in Vegas, partnership with FanDuel , Draft Kings

It's not ok if a player, coach, or owner bet on sports


The NFL has fully embraced gambling. Every show on the NFL network talks about lines. Commentators talk about betting lines during games. The NFL had a hard stance against that for decades and now they let the genie out of the bottle because they saw dollar signs. Does anyone really think Ridley betting on games while he was away from the team has any negative effect? I’m pretty sure there are players, coaches and refs involved in things that are actually swinging games or at least covering spreads. Once there is millions of dollars involved in anything there is going to be cheating and corruption.

[mc1]

So that makes it right?

I dont think what he did was wrong.:)!

The NFL obviously has their rules and policies.

[jplarson]

Ban him for good will be enough. Why you want them to give a spanking or a slap on the wrist?

Why were those two things the first that came to mind? I was curious to learn more on your ideas on punishment for non-violent infractions.

[EBCollectibles]

Why were those two things the first that came to mind? I was curious to learn more on your ideas on punishment for non-violent infractions.

Pete Rose was banned for life for non-violent thing also. So in your eyes if it's no violent they should get a slap on the wrist? What state are you from?

[asujbl]

"All NFL Personnel are prohibited from placing, soliciting or facilitating any bet, whether directly or indirectly through a third party, on any NFL game, practice or other event.

This includes betting on game outcomes, statistics, score, performance of any individual participant, or any other kind of 'proposition bet' on which wagering is offered."

That's pretty clear as day.

[mc1]

Pete Rose was banned for life for non-violent thing also. So in your eyes if it's no violent they should get a slap on the wrist? What state are you from?

He was betting on his own team as their manager.

You cant compare the two.

[jplarson]

Pete Rose was banned for life for non-violent thing also.

In the memo from the league, Ridley had gambled over a 5-day period while away from the team. Rose gambled on games as an active baseball manager, including games in which he was the manager. I don't agree that both situations are the same weight but I do agree both situations have broken the rules against gambling.



So in your eyes if it's no violent they should get a slap on the wrist? What state are you from?

I didn't say that. You're constructing straw man to argue with. What does it matter what I'm state I'm from? Is there some stereotype I'm going to help fulfill or do you plan to quote state statutes at me?

[Nester99]

Lifetime ban for anyone who dares risk the NFL gambling revenue.

If people think the games are more rigged then they are, they won’t bet. NFL is about the $$$ and if you mess with the golden goose, you are going to get cooked. As it should be.

[preakness]

He wasnt even playing with the team, correct?
But he was on the team. Sure he wasn't active that weekend, but he was still a paid employee

NFL needs to make sure there's no hint of gambling amongst it's players, coaches, owners

If dude needed a gambling fix, play poker

[asujbl]

But he was on the team. Sure he wasn't active that weekend, but he was still a paid employee

NFL needs to make sure there's no hint of gambling amongst it's players, coaches, owners

If dude needed a gambling fix, play poker

You slow down with that common sense

Or bet on any other sport…

Ridley is a moron. Flat out

[preakness]

The NFL has fully embraced gambling. Every show on the NFL network talks about lines. Commentators talk about betting lines during games. The NFL had a hard stance against that for decades and now they let the genie out of the bottle because they saw dollar signs. Does anyone really think Ridley betting on games while he was away from the team has any negative effect? I’m pretty sure there are players, coaches and refs involved in things that are actually swinging games or at least covering spreads. Once there is millions of dollars involved in anything there is going to be cheating and corruption.


Again, NFL isn't claiming gambling is evil

Heck, Manning family members are Caesars spokesmen

NFL is saying employees betting on NFL is bad

[Noles939913]

"All NFL Personnel are prohibited from placing, soliciting or facilitating any bet, whether directly or indirectly through a third party, on any NFL game, practice or other event.

This includes betting on game outcomes, statistics, score, performance of any individual participant, or any other kind of 'proposition bet' on which wagering is offered."

That's pretty clear as day.

Pretty much. I’m not allowed to even smoke legal weed at my job even though I’d like to. So I don’t. Not to mention all the other avenues Ridley could’ve gone with to get his gambling fix. Hell if he insisted on betting on football he could’ve bet on college even. Just don’t bet on the NFL. He’s just a plain moron.

[Siberian13]

But he was on the team. Sure he wasn't active that weekend, but he was still a paid employee

NFL needs to make sure there's no hint of gambling amongst it's players, coaches, owners

If dude needed a gambling fix, play poker

Calvin just isn’t very bright. We all know there a bunch of players betting on sports. They’re just using friends or family members to make the bets. So the hint of gambling is already there.

What a dum dum

Won’t change anything with cap space and he wasn’t going to be with the team next year anyways. Just slows down the ability to trade him.

[Fenway55]

If you believe he just bet $1500 I got some ocean front property in Kentucky for sale for $4 an acre. Ban him for good.. We already know athletes aren't the brightest lights in the house now he confirmed it.

Oh you are absolutely right. If he admits to $1,500, the true number is much higher.

[asujbl]

Pretty much. I’m not allowed to even smoke legal weed at my job even though I’d like to. So I don’t. Not to mention all the other avenues Ridley could’ve gone with to get his gambling fix. Hell if he insisted on betting on football he could’ve bet on college even. Just don’t bet on the NFL. He’s just a plain moron.

Correct

It’s why I could never really defend Josh Gordon… even when I wanted to

Jobs have rules. Simple

NFL should embrace gambling

Doesn’t mean players can do it

[mc1]

But he was on the team. Sure he wasn't active that weekend, but he was still a paid employee

NFL needs to make sure there's no hint of gambling amongst it's players, coaches, owners

If dude needed a gambling fix, play poker

Should have just hit his gf or wife. His suspension would be less.

[asujbl]

Should have just hit his gf or wife. His suspension would be less.

Can you link the DV part of the CBA?

You’re absolutely correct in theory

The CBA is bargained for a reason

Tell players to add it next time… which they won’t do…

[therealcjc33]

"All NFL Personnel are prohibited from placing, soliciting or facilitating any bet, whether directly or indirectly through a third party, on any NFL game, practice or other event.

This includes betting on game outcomes, statistics, score, performance of any individual participant, or any other kind of 'proposition bet' on which wagering is offered."

That's pretty clear as day.

You slow down with that common sense

Or bet on any other sport…

Ridley is a moron. Flat out

Correct

It’s why I could never really defend Josh Gordon… even when I wanted to

Jobs have rules. Simple

NFL should embrace gambling

Doesn’t mean players can do it

You know that I'm a Bama guy through and through, but I absolutely agree with you on this.

Do you think this may hurt his chances of getting signed to another team?

[Siberian13]

You know that I'm a Bama guy through and through, but I absolutely agree with you on this.

Do you think this may hurt his chances of getting signed to another team?

I doubt it. Once he’s cleared someone will sign him. He’s too talented. Plus I would think most think it’s somewhat silly like weed even if it is the rules. Like others have said people sign women beaters and guys that get in trouble Al the time. Talent matters the most to these teams.

[EBCollectibles]

In the memo from the league, Ridley had gambled over a 5-day period while away from the team. Rose gambled on games as an active baseball manager, including games in which he was the manager. I don't agree that both situations are the same weight but I do agree both situations have broken the rules against gambling.




I didn't say that. You're constructing straw man to argue with. What does it matter what I'm state I'm from? Is there some stereotype I'm going to help fulfill or do you plan to quote state statutes at me?

No I just ask which state you were from. No stereotype.

[TheFrenzy]

From one therapist to anyone who cares, Gambling Addiction is a diagnosable mental health condition and it's very often co-morbid with other mental health disorders.

The fact that this is the comment that gets ignored is pretty much par for the course with this hobby.

I don't pay money to bust wax or join group breaks these days, but I do think I'd pay a bit just to have a few licensed therapists live stream their reactions to some of these group breaks.

[bloodwings19]

Ridley deserves his punishment, but whoever gave him access to gambling is just as bad. If the person knew he was an NFL player, that person should shut him down.

[NHRonin]

So he didn’t bet on games he was playing in, hence couldn’t affect the outcome. He wasn’t even actively playing at the time.

The fact that the NFL considers this a felony level crime worthy of a one year suspension is laughable. Then again, this is the same league that suspended their GOAT for four games based on flawed science and hurt feelings.

[TheHeel]

https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/275306964_6967431693327411_5316846768673154156_n.jpg?stp=cp0_dst-jpg_e15_fr_q65&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=LRjZtokJptIAX_wogkP&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AT-N7ZqwS8Gq8JxKKJLYtFQ6XnPh9wIK89MDMY7PEaoQVg&oe=622BB727

[Noles939913]

https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/275306964_6967431693327411_5316846768673154156_n.jpg?stp=cp0_dst-jpg_e15_fr_q65&_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=LRjZtokJptIAX_wogkP&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AT-N7ZqwS8Gq8JxKKJLYtFQ6XnPh9wIK89MDMY7PEaoQVg&oe=622BB727

Incredibly fake/misleading news. Gordon didn’t just smoke weed. Regardless of the technicality’s involved regarding the actual suspension Peterson missed 15 games due to the incident with his kid. Hardy was never actually convicted. Etc, etc, etc.

[TheHeel]

Incredibly fake/misleading news. Gordon didn’t just smoke weed. Regardless of the technicality’s involved regarding the actual suspension Peterson missed 15 games due to the incident with his kid.

I thought it was funny; 6 seasons for smoking weed. A season for playing Fanduel

[mc1]

I thought it was funny; 6 seasons for smoking weed. A season for playing Fanduel

Whats ridiculous about Gordon are the number of chances the league gave him.

[Noles939913]

I thought it was funny; 6 seasons for smoking weed. A season for playing Fanduel

It’s not true though.

[msucollector4]

Pete Rose has entered the chat

[MOONBASE1]

Sacrificial lamb to send a message to all players.

[TheHeel]

It’s not true though.

It’s humor in regards to the last two entries. Good Lawd.

[EBCollectibles]

I thought it was funny; 6 seasons for smoking weed. A season for playing Fanduel

He got caught 76 times. I guess you hate rules but they are there for a reason. They were way more than weed also. You make Gordon out like he is Billy Graham. This guy is a 1000% addict.

[carlo16]

From one therapist to anyone who cares, Gambling Addiction is a diagnosable mental health condition and it's very often co-morbid with other mental health disorders.

Massage Therapist?

[therealcjc33]

I doubt it. Once he’s cleared someone will sign him. He’s too talented. Plus I would think most think it’s somewhat silly like weed even if it is the rules. Like others have said people sign women beaters and guys that get in trouble Al the time. Talent matters the most to these teams.

I 100% agree on the talent, I guess I'm concerned that teams may look at him now as him trying to affect the outcome of the game or that he may have a gambling addiction. I hope he figures it all out though.

[Boo]

Calvin just isn’t very bright. We all know there a bunch of players betting on sports. They’re just using friends or family members to make the bets. So the hint of gambling is already there.

What a dum dum

Won’t change anything with cap space and he wasn’t going to be with the team next year anyways. Just slows down the ability to trade him.

That didn't need to be said, seeing as he bet on the Falcons to win.

[Siberian13]

That didn't need to be said, seeing as he bet on the Falcons to win.

It said late November so maybe it was the game against the Jaguars. If so he probably won money

[Grid]

Ridley deserves his punishment, but whoever gave him access to gambling is just as bad. If the person knew he was an NFL player, that person should shut him down.

The old blame the casino, not the gambler stance I see.

I can only image the person that took the bet risking their own job, by refusing to accept a legal bet from someone, because their name sounded familiar.

Entry level employees should never have to play enforcer to another companies bylaws.

[fungi2510]

Pete Rose has entered the chat

Actually that was two pages ago. Thanks for the retread joke dude.

[Grid]

So he didn’t bet on games he was playing in, hence couldn’t affect the outcome. He wasn’t even actively playing at the time.

The fact that the NFL considers this a felony level crime worthy of a one year suspension is laughable. Then again, this is the same league that suspended their GOAT for four games based on flawed science and hurt feelings.

It doesn't matter if he was playing, or can effect the game(s). He was a player, who was actively playing weeks before he placed his bets, on games from his league.

Not only can this be considered insider trading, as he clearly knew other teams, players and coaches in his league. But the fact that he did so, during a season in which he was just an active part of, was simply against the rules of the league.

This is the league that actually suspended its reigning MVP, Paul Hornung, for the same thing nearly 40 years ago. They suspended another soon to be HOFer in Alex Karras for it as well.

Both of them got the same 1 year suspension for gambling on NFL games. If anything, the league would look bad if they didn't hand out the same punishment to Ridley, now that the league is actually endorsing betting on the NFL today, by non-NFL employees that is.

[2010GBPackers]

I'm really not understanding the defending of Ridley here. I get it, he didn't commit a violent crime or engager people's safety. HOWEVER, if the integrity of NFL games comes into question, a billion-dollar business enterprise (run by 32 billionaires) is at stake. It's that simple, really. The NFL will never appear to be soft on this issue or should they.

If you are a player/coach/management - don't gamble.

There's really no nuance to this conversation; there is too much at stake.

[Earlsnake07]

Believe it or not the NFL is not in favor of bringing players down - they have TONS of additional support for players who struggle in whatever their vice may be - literally a phone call or even text away.

Every player (training camp to practice squad) is told over and over and over that gambling will not be tolerated - PERIOD. If you are caught you will face the most severe punishment the league can hand down.

Ridley hit his parlay of losing 1500 (allegedly) and turning it into an 11.1 million loss.

[graffiX]

Apparently his name on Fan Duel was: Da_Real_CvlvinRidle.

"Calvin Ridley of the Atlanta Falcons" has a nice ring to it as well.

[bradical]

That didn't need to be said, seeing as he bet on the Falcons to win.

We don't know that.

He may have taken the points to cover the spread.

[Noles939913]

Ridley deserves his punishment, but whoever gave him access to gambling is just as bad. If the person knew he was an NFL player, that person should shut him down.

Are you living under a rock or do you still think it’s the 1960s? He didn’t need a bookie or anything, he was betting right from his phone.

[Boo]

We don't know that.

He may have taken the points to cover the spread.


"The NFL determined that Ridley placed multilegged parlay bets involving three, five and eight games that included the Falcons to win via his mobile device out of state, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter."

[altaeria]

Oh no.
This year he won't get paid for not playing.

[mc1]

I'm really not understanding the defending of Ridley here. I get it, he didn't commit a violent crime or engager people's safety. HOWEVER, if the integrity of NFL games comes into question, a billion-dollar business enterprise (run by 32 billionaires) is at stake. It's that simple, really. The NFL will never appear to be soft on this issue or should they.

If you are a player/coach/management - don't gamble.

There's really no nuance to this conversation; there is too much at stake.

He wasnt active with the team. Not practicing and not playing.:)!

[EBCollectibles]

Ridley deserves his punishment, but whoever gave him access to gambling is just as bad. If the person knew he was an NFL player, that person should shut him down.

Why is it always someone else fault? The guilty is always the victim in some peoples eyes no matter what.

[Noles939913]

"The NFL determined that Ridley placed multilegged parlay bets involving three, five and eight games that included the Falcons to win via his mobile device out of state, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter."

He wasnt active with the team. Not practicing and not playing.:)!

He was still an NFL employee. It explicitly states NFL employees cannot gamble on NFL games. :)!

[mc1]

He was still an NFL employee. It explicitly states NFL employees cannot gamble on NFL games. :)!

The NFL - Where if you beat your wife, GF or kid youre welcome with open arms.

[Noles939913]

The NFL - Where if you beat your wife, GF or kid youre welcome with open arms.

You’re changing the argument. If you can’t see why having NFL employees gamble on NFL games is an issue then I just don’t know what to tell you. He broke a rule that had no doubt been reiterated to him numerous times. He knew the consequences yet chose to do it anyway.

[EBCollectibles]

It is always someone elses fault or some drugs should be legal in the NFL. Well it's not. He knew the rules when he signed up or maybe he didn't. Some of the athletes are not to bright. This seems to be another one.

[Grid]

I'm really not understanding the defending of Ridley here. I get it, he didn't commit a violent crime or engager people's safety. HOWEVER, if the integrity of NFL games comes into question, a billion-dollar business enterprise (run by 32 billionaires) is at stake. It's that simple, really. The NFL will never appear to be soft on this issue or should they.

If you are a player/coach/management - don't gamble.

There's really no nuance to this conversation; there is too much at stake.

Cosigned. It was bad enough if players gambled on NFL games before. It is even worse, if they do so while the NFL (and the owners) are bringing in a predicted $2.3BIL more a year, that comes from their gambling deals with the big books.

https://www.americangaming.org/resources/how-much-does-the-nfl-stand-to-gain-from-legal-sports-betting/

[Bosoxfan5990]

It is always someone elses fault or some drugs should be legal in the NFL. Well it's not. He knew the rules when he signed up or maybe he didn't. Some of the athletes are not to bright. This seems to be another one.

"not to bright" :doh:

[DiamondDonovan]

Alternate theory here but maybe he needed more time off for his "mental health" and wasn't ready to come back to the NFL. Place a couple bets and do something not allowed to get some additional time off?

Anyways from a societal stand point, gambling seems so harmless compared to what other things NFL players have done and gotten suspended for.

[mc1]

You’re changing the argument. If you can’t see why having NFL employees gamble on NFL games is an issue then I just don’t know what to tell you. He broke a rule that had no doubt been reiterated to him numerous times. He knew the consequences yet chose to do it anyway.

I understand.

Like I already said many times, he wasnt even active with the team. Im not going to change my opinion about that fact.

He wasnt a coach on the sidelines or a player on the field. He wasnt even an injured player on the sidelines.

"not to bright" :doh:

Perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black.

[Noles939913]

I understand.

Like I already said many times, he wasnt even active with the team. Im not going to change my opinion about that fact.

He wasnt a coach on the sidelines or a player on the field. He wasnt even an injured player on the sidelines.



Perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black.

You don’t think he was still privy to some insider information? I don’t think communication with his friends on the team was completely cut off during his time away.

[mc1]

You don’t think he was still privy to some insider information? I don’t think communication with his friends on the team was completely cut off during his time away.

The bets happened late November. When they played the Jaguars. I dont think he needed inside info there.

He didnt bet only on the Falcons. He had 3, 5 and 8 team parlays. Not sure if they were ML or spread bets.

[Grid]

Alternate theory here but maybe he needed more time off for his "mental health" and wasn't ready to come back to the NFL. Place a couple bets and do something not allowed to get some additional time off?

Anyways from a societal stand point, gambling seems so harmless compared to what other things NFL players have done and gotten suspended for.


The bets happened late November. When they played the Jaguars. I dont think he needed inside info there.

He didnt bet only on the Falcons. He had 3, 5 and 8 team parlays. Not sure if they were ML or spread bets.

From my earlier post, this is likened to insider trading in stocks. When you can have information that the general public does not, and can gain financially based on that, it is an issue.

It doesn't matter if gambling is legal and considered harmless by most. The fact that, in his position as a player who knows other players, systems and coaches, he has an advantage. And the fact that any player can then place a bet on a game is an issue.

Even if he isn't that bright, the fact that a player can bet on games in their league can easily give the appearance that a game can, or will be, rigged. And they cant have the integrity of the game compromised.

No matter your opinion on gambling, it is against the rules and each player is given the below notice to agree to in this regard.

League policy strictly prohibits NFL Personnel from participating in or facilitating any form of illegal gambling. In addition, NFL Personnel are prohibited from engaging in any of the following gambling-related activities, regardless of whether such activities are legal:

Accepting a bribe or agreeing to throw or fix a game or illegally influence its outcome, statistics or score;

Failing promptly to report any bribe offer or any attempt to throw or fix a game or to illegally influence its outcome, statistics or score;

Betting on any NFL game or practice, or any other professional (e.g., NBA, MLB, NHL,PGA, USTA), college (e.g., NCAA basketball), or Olympic sport. including but not limited to wagers related to game outcome, statistics, score, or performance of any individual participant

Sharing confidential information regarding any game or any participating individual’s Status for or performance in any game without authorization or for the purpose of enabling or facilitating gambling;

Participating in or condoning any form of gambling while in any Club or League setting including, without limitation, locker rooms, practice or office facilities, or while traveling on Club or League business; or

Entering into, utilizing or otherwise visiting a “sports book ” at any time during the NFL playing season.

[Noles939913]

The bets happened late November. When they played the Jaguars. I dont think he needed inside info there.

He didnt bet only on the Falcons. He had 3, 5 and 8 team parlays. Not sure if they were ML or spread bets.

It literally doesn’t matter. He’s not allowed to bet on ANY NFL games even if he’s away from the team. He knew the rules and chose to ignore them and it’s going to cost him $11 million and a year of his prime. Talk about dumb. Also the fact the Jaguars only won 3 games last year doesn’t take away the fact he could also have insider information regarding things such as injuries.

[Noles939913]

From my earlier post, this is likened to insider trading in stocks. When you can have information that the general public does not, and can gain financially based on that, it is an issue.

It doesn't matter if gambling is legal and considered harmless by most. The fact that, in his position as a player who knows other players, systems and coaches, he has an advantage. And the fact that any player can then place a bet on a game is an issue.

Even if he isn't that bright, the fact that a player can bet on games in their league can easily give the appearance that a game can, or will be, rigged. And they cant have the integrity of the game compromised.

No matter your opinion on gambling, it is against the rules and each player is given the below notice to agree to in this regard.

League policy strictly prohibits NFL Personnel from participating in or facilitating any form of illegal gambling. In addition, NFL Personnel are prohibited from engaging in any of the following gambling-related activities, regardless of whether such activities are legal:

Accepting a bribe or agreeing to throw or fix a game or illegally influence its outcome, statistics or score;

Failing promptly to report any bribe offer or any attempt to throw or fix a game or to illegally influence its outcome, statistics or score;

Betting on any NFL game or practice, or any other professional (e.g., NBA, MLB, NHL,PGA, USTA), college (e.g., NCAA basketball), or Olympic sport. including but not limited to wagers related to game outcome, statistics, score, or performance of any individual participant

Sharing confidential information regarding any game or any participating individual’s Status for or performance in any game without authorization or for the purpose of enabling or facilitating gambling;

Participating in or condoning any form of gambling while in any Club or League setting including, without limitation, locker rooms, practice or office facilities, or while traveling on Club or League business; or

Entering into, utilizing or otherwise visiting a “sports book ” at any time during the NFL playing season.

Now this I didn’t know. I didn’t know players couldn’t bet on other sports.

[mc1]

It literally doesn’t matter. He’s not allowed to bet on ANY NFL games even if he’s away from the team. He knew the rules and chose to ignore them and it’s going to cost him $11 million and a year of his prime. Talk about dumb. Also the fact the Jaguars only won 3 games last year doesn’t take away the fact he could also have insider information regarding things such as injuries.

Hes only dumb because he got caught.

Thats my opinion.

[Grid]

Now this I didn’t know. I didn’t know players couldn’t bet on other sports.

Yup, its known in the NFL as the Art Schlichter rule.

Schlichter was the fourth overall pick by the Colts back in 82. The next big QB out of Ohio State.

Turns out, he was a huge gambler, and bet on plenty of other sports. But seemed to like to bet on the NCAA the most. Even blew his signing bonus on gambling.

The league suspended him when it all came out. And the rule was added so the league didn't get another black eye, when a top QB prospect turns out to be a degenerate gambler.

[Grid]

And just throwing this out there, players are allowed to gamble "during their personal time". They just cant bet on sports, while they are part of the league.

They can play poker, black jack, slots or any casino game. Most don't do it, because they still cant take comps from casinos. And, it can be bad for their brand. Like a player coming off a down season, and pissing away the teams money playing roulette in Vegas.

If you are betting with an NFL bankroll, you cant accept the free suites, free play, free meals ETC like other gamblers get as comps. I think they changed it to a few hundred bucks in comps a few years ago, but still peanuts.

Without the comps, gambling in a casino is really a losing proposition. So many don't bother.

[marl1220]

He can bet on anything other than NFL games. NBA, MLB, NHL, MMA, NCAA, NASCAR, Corn Hole, PGA, Tennis, Boxing. ANYTHING other than NFL games. So what does the dumb ass do? He bets on NFL games. He's lucky all he got was 1 year. He should be kicked out permanently based on stupidity alone.

[asujbl]

He can bet on anything other than NFL games. NBA, MLB, NHL, MMA, NCAA, NASCAR, Corn Hole, PGA, Tennis, Boxing. ANYTHING other than NFL games. So what does the dumb ass do? He bets on NFL games. He's lucky all he got was 1 year. He should be kicked out permanently based on stupidity alone.

This

Thank you

How stupid do you have to be to bet on your own sport?

No way the NFL could wrist slap this based on the precedence it would set… even if they are embracing gambling

If you have to bet on your own sport have a random do it for you

Dummy

[jplarson]

He can bet on anything other than NFL games. NBA, MLB, NHL, MMA, NCAA, NASCAR, Corn Hole, PGA, Tennis, Boxing. ANYTHING other than NFL games. So what does the dumb ass do? He bets on NFL games. He's lucky all he got was 1 year. He should be kicked out permanently based on stupidity alone.

Please scroll up to post 90. Yes it's dumb he bet on NFL games. No he can't bet on other professional sports, international sports, Olympic sports, etc.


Betting on any NFL game or practice, or any other professional (e.g., NBA, MLB, NHL,PGA, USTA), college (e.g., NCAA basketball), or Olympic sport. including but not limited to wagers related to game outcome, statistics, score, or performance of any individual participant


Here's the source. See section 2, subsection 2. https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2018%20Policies/2018%20Gambling%20Policy%20-%20FINAL.pdf

[Boo]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/08/nfl-players-can-bet-on-sports-other-than-nfl-football/
:coffee::coffee:

Personnel OTHER THAN players:coffee::coffee:

[marl1220]

Please scroll up to post 90. Yes it's dumb he bet on NFL games. No he can't bet on other professional sports, international sports, Olympic sports, etc.



Here's the source. See section 2, subsection 2. https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2018%20Policies/2018%20Gambling%20Policy%20-%20FINAL.pdf

Taken from document:
Betting on Other Sports: All NFL Personnel other than Players are further prohibited from placing, soliciting, or facilitating bets on any other professional (e.g., NBA, MLB, NHL, PGA, USTA, MLS), college (e.g., NCAA basketball), international (e.g., World Baseball Classic, World Cup), or Olympic sports competition, tournament or event.

[Siberian13]

Taken from document:
Betting on Other Sports: All NFL Personnel other than Players are further prohibited from placing, soliciting, or facilitating bets on any other professional (e.g., NBA, MLB, NHL, PGA, USTA, MLS), college (e.g., NCAA basketball), international (e.g., World Baseball Classic, World Cup), or Olympic sports competition, tournament or event.

Those Bears fans have trouble reading :)!

[jplarson]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/08/nfl-players-can-bet-on-sports-other-than-nfl-football/
:coffee::coffee:

Personnel OTHER THAN players:coffee::coffee:

Dang, I completely missed that part. Thanks for the correction on that. Seems REALLY weird that players aren't barred but everyone else is. Looks like I'm in good company with that miss.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-players-bet-sports-other-152416506.html

[marl1220]

Dang, I completely missed that part. Thanks for the correction on that. Seems REALLY weird that players aren't barred but everyone else is. Looks like I'm in good company with that miss.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-players-bet-sports-other-152416506.html

I agree. Seems kind of strange. I wonder what the rational is in this rule.:confused:

[jplarson]

Those Bears fans have trouble reading :)!

Chicago public schools are more concerned with teachers striking rather than reading comprehension. Duh.

[Siberian13]

Chicago public schools are more concerned with teachers striking rather than reading comprehension. Duh.

Babysitters striking is pretty funny

[KhalDrogo]

I agree. Seems kind of strange. I wonder what the rational is in this rule.:confused:
League probably couldn't get the Player's Association to agree to it, but were able to force it on all other parties.

[marl1220]

Babysitters striking is pretty funny

Let's not make this personal. :D

[marl1220]

League probably couldn't get the Player's Association to agree to it, but were able to force it on all other parties.

Good point.

[asujbl]

KD is joking. The thread goes on and you get the context… but this is why the NFL can’t have this… even if you suspend less for DV or drugs

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-L559TdG/0/L/i-L559TdG-L.jpg (https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/Traded-Items/i-L559TdG/A)

[Noles939913]

KD is joking. The thread goes on and you get the context… but this is why the NFL can’t have this… even if you suspend less for DV or drugs

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-L559TdG/0/L/i-L559TdG-L.jpg (https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/Traded-Items/i-L559TdG/A)

I still can’t fathom how there are people in this thread who can’t understand why having NFL employees gambling on games is no big deal even though the league itself is affiliated with gambling sites (Post #8 for example). Maybe the tweet from Durant you posted will help them see the light.

[asujbl]

I still can’t fathom how there are people in this thread who can’t understand why having NFL employees gambling on games is no big deal even though the league itself is affiliated with gambling sites (Post #8 for example). Maybe the tweet from Durant you posted will help them see the light.

It should

It won’t

[mc1]

I still can’t fathom how there are people in this thread who can’t understand why having NFL employees gambling on games is no big deal even though the league itself is affiliated with gambling sites (Post #8 for example). Maybe the tweet from Durant you posted will help them see the light.

Active players, staffers and executives should definitely be prohibited from gambling.

Ridley wasnt active.

[asujbl]

Active players, staffers and executives should definitely be prohibited from gambling.

Ridley wasnt active.

You can’t be this dumb

I have faith in you

[mc1]

You can’t be this dumb

I have faith in you

He wasnt playing and wasnt practicing with the team.

Was he getting paid and under contract? Sure. Still not active.

Seems to be the dumb ones are the ones that cant think for themselves. Guys that pay thousands for slabbed 10s, for example.

[asujbl]

He wasnt playing and wasnt practicing with the team.

Was he getting paid and under contract? Sure. Still not active.

Seems to be the dumb ones are the ones that cant think for themselves. Guys that pay thousands for slabbed 10s, for example.

So you are this dumb

Sad

Solid deflection though

[mc1]

So you are this dumb

Sad

Solid deflection though

Youre not dumb. I wont say what you are so as not to derail the thread.:)! Or so I dont get reported. Shame if you did.

[asujbl]

Youre not dumb. I wont say what you are so as not to derail the thread.:)!

You’re super dumb

I’ll say it

Don’t hold back. I’m rich and will survive

[mc1]

You’re super dumb

I’ll say it

Don’t hold back. I’m rich and will survive

So thats why you only buy PSA 10s? You need to have the best only? Elitist!

[asujbl]

So thats why you only buy PSA 10s? You need to have the best only? Elitist!

Yep

I make a lot of money

God bless

[mc1]

Yep

I make a lot of money

God bless

Ridley is only dumb cause he got caught. I hope coaches, refs and all the players are gambling through someone else.:)!

Youre dumb if you think many arent.

[asujbl]

Ridley is only dumb cause he got caught. I hope coaches, refs and all the players are gambling through someone else.:)!

Youre dumb if you think many arent.

I’m not dumb. They absolutely are

They are smarter than Ridley as they use a third party

Your literally proving my point

So you’re still super dumb. Hasn’t changed

[mc1]

I’m not dumb. They absolutely are

They are smarter than Ridley as they use a third party

Your literally proving my point

So you’re still super dumb. Hasn’t changed

I dont think what he did was wrong. I dont care.

Go have some beers and wipe off your sweat with hundreds.

[asujbl]

I dont think what he did was wrong. I dont care.

Go have some beers and wipe off your sweat with hundreds.

Already did both

[Soxrule111]

No post of Ridleys Tweet $1500 on the Broncos winning the Division now lol.

[Noles939913]

Youre not dumb. I wont say what you are so as not to derail the thread.:)! Or so I dont get reported. Shame if you did.

https://i.gifer.com/3GNd.gif

I can’t handle this amount of passive aggressiveness.

[ninjacookies]

The NFL's only fearful of things that have the capability of destroying their bottom line -- $$.

Employees betting on outcomes makes degen casuals on their FD and DK accounts think the league is rigged (which probably contains some element of truth).

Tyreek beating his pregnant gf and subsequently McGregor'ing his 3 year old son doesn't prevent fans at large from tuning in and buying merch.


Perspective.

[SK40]

The NFL's only fearful of things that have the capability of destroying their bottom line -- $$.

Employees betting on outcomes makes degen casuals on their FD and DK accounts think the league is rigged (which probably contains some element of truth).

Tyreek beating his pregnant gf and subsequently McGregor'ing his 3 year old son doesn't prevent fans at large from tuning in and buying merch.


Perspective.

I laughed a lot harder at this than I should have but it is accurate.