I Now Consider Patches a Disgusting Blight on My Cards

[SoccerRCs]

Hopefully this will generate some good conversation because I am pretty curious what other people think.

At this point, I will say that jersey cards are disgusting. I'm not necessarily talking about jersey cards that have an auto. If the auto is there that changes it for me somewhat. I'm talking pure jersey cards.

I see two issues. One is there are just way too many of them. We have obviously reached the point of overprinting even on serial number patch cards. The second thing is that even when the first UD game jerseys came out in the 90s, patch cards didn't make a lot of sense. Why butcher a nice piece of memorabilia for a swatch to put on a card? However, it was extremely innovative for the card industry and at the time, definitely cool. I loved it. But now? It has been beaten into the ground. It's nauseating looking at these cards on ebay or Goldin or wherever. Just flat out nauseating. I'd rather own just a nice looking card (with or without an auto) than a jersey card.

Think about this for a minute, we have Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb bat cards. A bat from these legends was chipped up to put a sliver of it on a card. It is absolutely obscene.

This brings me to my question/conclusion: In the 90s cards were all about the inserts and cool designs and there was nothing innovative like jerseys or autos but now it is the other end of the extreme. I'm kinda starting to think the most undervalued plays in cards are just the really rare inserts (especially cause on top of the patch issue there is also loads of pure parallels). When everyone wakes up and says, "Oh geeze, there is way too many patch cards in existence," and prices tank, what survives this era best? Well, nobody in the market paying tons of attention to unique and rare case hits outside kaboom.

Anyways, those are my thoughts. How do you guys see patch cards, rare case hits, etc?

[sportzluvr1]

Video killed the radio star

[Siberian13]

I like non auto and no Jersey/patch cards that are numbered.

[Canthardlymiss1]

I agree completely with the over saturated use of relics and jersey patches. I grew up in and collected in the 90’s era where refractors we’re just being introduced and inserts were at odds of 1:36 or every 3 boxes making it a fun chase. I know times have changed and we have all grown but nothing beats the feeling of pulling a meaningful insert that actually looked good! I remember I loved the 1994 Pinnacle Trophy Collection inserts chasing the Marshall Faulk.

Not to talk down on the crazy amount of colorful parallels of the same card, but I just don’t see the understand the desire of chasing those. I understand there are those collectors that are on a ride to complete the rainbow but it’s the same card just different color. Why not make each card a slight photo variation?

Maybe it’s more of my respect for vintage or more iconic sets, but I am completely drawn away from the inserts today. Most of the sets I have put together or held onto are mostly staple iconic base sets. But I would love a product or reintroduction to Topps Chrome or Finest Football where it was a refractor and auto per box. You would end up with a lot of base but it would make putting sets together enjoyable again or a more intriguing to those that didn’t know that era!

[49erRCCollector]

Patches/Jersey cards mean nothing to me at all.

I have zero patch only cards.

If I want a jersey it will be a full GU or repro with a genuine auto.

[Scottish Punk]

I am ok with them if they look cool. I don't really seek them out or anything. In the earlier patches, there was wording on them that indicated that they were game worn. Now it is super vague and a blanket statement. I don't have any trust whatsoever that the patch has anything to do with the player on the card. Tom Brady patches "The enclosed patch is not from any specific game or event" or "This patch is guaranteed by Panini". Just tells me these can be off the rack jerseys or "game used" from lesser known players from the same team.

[jplarson]

Video killed the radio star

Dang, /thread right there.

[roberth404]

The proliferation of relics/patches also has a lot to do with the overwhelming majority being player worn or "not from any specific game, event, etc." - those are almost worthless to me

I love the game worn stuff though, which is super hard to come by for a nice patch

[rms13]

I hate patches. I hate thick cards. Most memorabilia cards are a scam. If it is something game worn in an important game then maybe it’s cool but nobody is cutting up any of those jerseys because why would you?

[TheFrenzy]

Shiny > everything else

No stickers. No fading ink. No "player-worn" junk.

Just a shiny piece of cardboard with some element of scarcity is all I want.

[SkolVikesCards]

I definitely agree with most of what you said. However, with how panini is producing their “ssp” inserts now, those seem incredibly overvalued. Genesis from mosaic are supposed to be ssp but I would guess there are hundreds. I think serial numbered or autographed is definitely the way to go

[Canthardlymiss1]

I have been all in shiny since the early Chrome days. The gloss of the 1998 Topps Chrome Football Set still pops today, along with that fresh pack chromium smell! Am I the only one that actually loves the smell of chrome? I still sneak in a sniff here and there the past few years.

And serial numbered (autos+base+refractor) is the only way I go now unless I see a modern football set I look to complete which might not happen unless Topps returns. The last Football set has been 1998 Topps Chrome and 1996 Bowman’s Best since I have been back collecting.

[Seahawks fan]

Shiny > everything else

No stickers. No fading ink. No "player-worn" junk.

Just a shiny piece of cardboard with some element of scarcity is all I want.

I agree but with the 90s Chrome/Finest cards turning green, 99 Contenders rusting, mid 2000s UD Exquisite /Premier peeling/flaking without being touched. Makes me fear what will happen to future cards. We've all seen autos fade especially those sweet spot autos.

In this state of the hobby the 1st line of the OPs 3rd paragraph pertains to all cards even 1/1s. Too many cards made.

[rms13]

Shiny > everything else

No stickers. No fading ink. No "player-worn" junk.

Just a shiny piece of cardboard with some element of scarcity is all I want.


For PC I just want shiny. They shiner the better. I collect refractors and chromium type cards. I could care less about patches, autos or numbers. Scarcity is nice but I’m only collecting for PC now and not as an investment or a business.

[jplarson]

I agree but with the 90s Chrome/Finest cards turning green, 99 Contenders rusting, mid 2000s UD Exquisite /Premier peeling/flaking without being touched. Makes me fear what will happen to future cards. We've all seen autos fade especially those sweet spot autos.

In this state of the hobby the 1st line of the OPs 3rd paragraph pertains to all cards even 1/1s. Too many cards made.

1998 was the last years Topps Finest encountered greening. I can't speak for chrome though many of my 1999 chrome and stadium club chrome cards have weird dusty/cloudy/smudgy issues. Does seem like some microfiber cloth action takes care of it though.

[Viking6]

Patches/Jersey swatches were awesome when they were game worn.

They are all junk now... Even with an Auto on the card.

[majestik101]

Personally I love patch cards. Some of the best looking and more valuable cards in my collection are game-used/worn relics.

[Tiger23]

Patches/Jersey swatches were awesome when they were game worn.

They are all junk now... Even with an Auto on the card.

I’m honestly surprised the early 2000s ones from DLP haven’t made a rebound some. They have pictures of the actual jersey and pants on the back of the card. I like picking some of those up on the cheap.


Todays cards with a generic statement that guarantees nothing are a waste

[PrimeTimeScott]

I thought it was so revolutionary at first; however, even then I thought it was weird to cut up a game worn jersey (or a bat or whatever) and put a tiny piece of it in a card. I would almost rather let someone else have the actual jersey than to own a tiny piece of it. Now that the jersey swatches aren't game used, it is just stupid to waste time doing it. It did mean something when the player actually wore (or used) the item. Now that it is just a random jersey that is cut up, is there even a point?

I do think autographs are cool (even if they are on a sticker--but much less so this way), but as others have said, they often fade on the stickers. I also am not sure of the various pen colors in the long run. Even when they first come out they often look faded or just ugly.

The beating of a dead horse statement was perfect. We all get it, you put a piece of a jersey in a card. OK, lets move on to something else now.

[Grid]

If you take memorabilia cards out of the mix, then you would have to add more autos, SP inserts and numbered cards to each box, to justify the "value".

Then, you would be even more overpopulating those cards.

I think if these companies tuned down just how many jersey cards are made, they would hold even more value. Just like in the 90's, when they were rare, everyone wanted one.

If you consider them a blight, then don't collect them. By far more cards are "swatchless" anyway. Nothing stopping you from avoiding them.

I would rather have a jersey card, then another generic insert card.

I would rather have a patch card, then another generic jersey card.

I would rather have a signed jersey card, then a generic patch card.

I would rather have a signed patch card, then a generic signed jersey card.

And finally, I would rather have a signed logo patch card, then just a generic signed patch card.

I say generic, to take things like 1/1's out of consideration.

[Grid]

And as for those Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb bat cards, I would rather have 500 people have a piece of history in their hands, like part of those bats. Then 2 rich guys, hiding the entire bat in their safe deposit box.

The whole reason these became a "thing" was to get people closer to their heroes. Lets face it, 99% of collectors could never afford one of those bats. But maybe half of collectors could afford the cards.

I like that they exist.

[salthill]

Just tells me these can be off the rack jerseys or "game used" from lesser known players from the same team.
I disagree, but am open to being convinced otherwise. I think there are commercial (reputational) reasons for them not to do that, and suspect there may be legal ones too (ie a legitimate expectation that unless indicated otherwise the game-used jersey is used by the player named and pictured).

Topps has been stretching it lately though. They’ve been putting “game used” jerseys from spring training games into Dynasty for a few years now. To me a jersey isn’t game-used unless it was during a regular or post-season MLB game.

[TheFrenzy]

And as for those Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb bat cards, I would rather have 500 people have a piece of history in their hands, like part of those bats. Then 2 rich guys, hiding the entire bat in their safe deposit box.

It's really nothing new.

For thousands of years religious communities have fought over relics associated with their holy figures.

Forget housing the entire body of a saint, famous churches and royal families have paid handsomely for a relics like a splinter from the cross of Jesus to a single bone from a saint to vials supposedly containing tears or breast milk from the Virgin Mary. And if you think collectors fighting in the aisles of Target are bad, professional relic hunters used to camp out for weeks when they learned of a saint on their death bed—all in hopes of stealing some hair or blood (or maybe snipping off a finger) when the person passed.

I think my favorite relic-related fact is that Frederick III (the German prince who protected Martin Luther from the Pope) had a relic collection containing over 15,000 items. If one were to pay their respects to each item, they could earn nearly 2,000,000 years of penance (taking time off one's stay in purgatory).

[ShoutFan2020]

The pyramid scheme that keeps on going. Take a meaningless jersey and cut it into separate patch pieces that all have more "value" than the actual jersey itself (or simply pump it that way).
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[rgc73]

For PC I just want shiny. They shiner the better. I collect refractors and chromium type cards. I could care less about patches, autos or numbers. Scarcity is nice but I’m only collecting for PC now and not as an investment or a business.Where/how do you store them? Sleeves and toploaders? Pages in binders?

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[cking]

vials supposedly containing tears or breast milk from the Virgin Mary.

Boo is licking his chops somewhere after hearing this

[SandStoneSports]

Generally hate them. Seems like another way for card companies to rip off collectors and not provide actual autos or low serial numbers as hits. In all the years I've collected I've had two patch cards I could deal with, both were multi-color and had actual stitching.

Hate the bat, helmet, and glove pieces as well. To me whether they are authentic or not, they all look like fakes. Much rather have a good looking rookie card. To be honest, I am not even that hot on autos. A lot of times they take away the art of the card. And unless the manufacturer witnesses the player signing the card or sticker, common sense would make me think plenty of those are faked as well.

[jzx1103]

I actually have no issues with Ruth or Cobb Jersey or Bat cards cause honestly, if they never made them, I would've definitely never be able to own a piece of that history as I don't have $1 mil to shell out for a full size Ruth GU jersey. With that said I wouldn't touch any of the recent Panini jersey or relic cards with their obscure COA on the back, who knows if they're even game worn. I have the Ruth Jumbo Jersey from 2005 Absolute and I actually know exactly where that jersey piece came from. Its one of the top 3 cards in my collection that I'll probably have a very difficult time parting with.

[Grid]

Generally hate them. Seems like another way for card companies to rip off collectors and not provide actual autos or low serial numbers as hits. In all the years I've collected I've had two patch cards I could deal with, both were multi-color and had actual stitching.

Hate the bat, helmet, and glove pieces as well. To me whether they are authentic or not, they all look like fakes. Much rather have a good looking rookie card. To be honest, I am not even that hot on autos. A lot of times they take away the art of the card. And unless the manufacturer witnesses the player signing the card or sticker, common sense would make me think plenty of those are faked as well.

You do know that it costs these companies more money to create memorabilia cards, then just serial numbered cards, right?

Beyond the cost of the actual material, which could be nominal for player "used" to considerable for "game used" by a star. Just the creation of these cards, having to cut, skin and inventory the swatches to be used. Having to create thicker cards to house them, and die or laser cut the windows. Having to stack all those pieces, and glue them together.

Much cheaper process to just hot stamp a serial number on a base card. And serial numbering a 1/1 costs as much as serial numbering a card numbered to 1,000

I get you don't like them. But no one is saving a buck by creating jersey cards instead of serial numbered cards.

[imbluestreak23]

My pet peeves are
I) Swatches should not be inserted if not from a game
2) This new phenomenon where sellers in the hobby are calling anything and everything a patch including a single color Jersey. Some pumper along the way led the flock astray as I even had folks at a show see Jersey cards of mine and call them patches :doh:

Otherwise, yeah I get the premise to preserve stuff but so long as not everything is cut up into a card I’m cool with it

[Fenway55]

Personally I love patch cards. Some of the best looking and more valuable cards in my collection are game-used/worn relics.
Me too. Patch cards are what I primarily collect. I’m usually happy with just one auto of a player but I enjoy getting all sorts of different patches.

[Zauron]

My pet peeves are
I) Swatches should not be inserted if not from a game
2) This new phenomenon where sellers in the hobby are calling anything and everything a patch including a single color Jersey. Some pumper along the way led the flock astray as I even had folks at a show see Jersey cards of mine and call them patches :doh:

Otherwise, yeah I get the premise to preserve stuff but so long as not everything is cut up into a card I’m cool with it

I sure would like to know where the bolded started because it is getting annoying seeing people call single color jersey swatch a patch.

Also people calling a patch autograph of a veteran a RPA, or a non rookie card a RPA.

[BlockShotStop]

And as for those Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb bat cards, I would rather have 500 people have a piece of history in their hands, like part of those bats. Then 2 rich guys, hiding the entire bat in their safe deposit box.

The whole reason these became a "thing" was to get people closer to their heroes. Lets face it, 99% of collectors could never afford one of those bats. But maybe half of collectors could afford the cards.

I like that they exist.

I don't see how anyone could be rationally opposed to this take.

[JeremyNick]

If it’s not game used it’s just hyped up window dressing.

I don’t own sticker autos or non GU patches. Their value is incredibly overhyped.

[Giroux]

I sure would like to know where the bolded started because it is getting annoying seeing people call single color jersey swatch a patch.



Also people calling a patch autograph of a veteran a RPA, or a non rookie card a RPA.I have not seen Veteran cards being called RPAs but I think it might answer your first question.

I see that pretty much any rookie jersey card with an auto gets called an RPA, maybe that's where it started?

[Giroux]

And as for those Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb bat cards, I would rather have 500 people have a piece of history in their hands, like part of those bats. Then 2 rich guys, hiding the entire bat in their safe deposit box.

The whole reason these became a "thing" was to get people closer to their heroes. Lets face it, 99% of collectors could never afford one of those bats. But maybe half of collectors could afford the cards.

I like that they exist.This plus the storage factor. I wouldn't want to and physically couldn't store hundreds of bats, jerseys, etc., but can with cards.

[Anish]

I don't see how anyone could be rationally opposed to this take.

Cutting something up = destroying it

[Grid]

Cutting something up = destroying it

Cutting something up = sharing it. Like Frenzy pointed out, this has been happening to desirable items for centuries.

While a single game used jersey might end up being lost over the years. If 2,000 swatches are out there, it will never truly be gone.

[Scottish Punk]

Cutting something up = sharing it. Like Frenzy pointed out, this has been happening to desirable items for centuries.

While a single game used jersey might end up being lost over the years. If 2,000 swatches are out there, it will never truly be gone.

Never truly gone and never truly authenticated. I get putting this stuff in cards is cool and more people get to touch it. Cutting it up is destroying the item. Whether you are ok with the trade off of destroying to putting in cards is a personal opinion.

I would side with however rare it is. Cutting up Tom Brady jerserys is no big deal. I wouldn't want the jersery of his first game or last game ripped up into a jersey card. If there is stockpile of 100's Ty Cobb bats, sure grind down a few. If we get down to 100 or below or whatever, preserve that piece of history. Same token, don't cut up his 3000 hit bat or any other special event.

[Giroux]

Cutting something up = destroying it

I can definitely understand this view too.

[Grid]

Never truly gone and never truly authenticated. I get putting this stuff in cards is cool and more people get to touch it. Cutting it up is destroying the item. Whether you are ok with the trade off of destroying to putting in cards is a personal opinion.

I would side with however rare it is. Cutting up Tom Brady jerserys is no big deal. I wouldn't want the jersery of his first game or last game ripped up into a jersey card. If there is stockpile of 100's Ty Cobb bats, sure grind down a few. If we get down to 100 or below or whatever, preserve that piece of history. Same token, don't cut up his 3000 hit bat or any other special event.

I totally get it. The same debate happened when the old Donruss cutup the only known Red Grange helmet to use in cards.

I guess the debate is fairly moot these days, as all they seem to be cutting up are mostly event or player touched stuff. At least for sports.

People seem OK cutting up documents, to take the auto and use in cards or displays. Its the same debate though. No perfect answer, but if people couldn't gain more from the yield of the item, they wouldn't sell for as much.

If Topps (just as an example) couldn't justify cutting up a Babe Ruth jersey into pieces, and therefor selling boxes of cards that could contain them for more money. They wouldn't push the bidding up so high as to win the item.

Leaving those that hold full versions, with items that are inherently worth less money.

[Giroux]

I would side with however rare it is. Cutting up Tom Brady jerserys is no big deal. I wouldn't want the jersery of his first game or last game ripped up into a jersey card. If there is stockpile of 100's Ty Cobb bats, sure grind down a few. If we get down to 100 or below or whatever, preserve that piece of history. Same token, don't cut up his 3000 hit bat or any other special event.

I think this is the correct take on this

[SoccerRCs]

And as for those Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb bat cards, I would rather have 500 people have a piece of history in their hands, like part of those bats. Then 2 rich guys, hiding the entire bat in their safe deposit box.

The whole reason these became a "thing" was to get people closer to their heroes. Lets face it, 99% of collectors could never afford one of those bats. But maybe half of collectors could afford the cards.

I like that they exist.

Just getting around to reading replies. I appreciate the perspective you bring here. Hadn't thought of that but it's probably the best counter to my frustration. Also, I think your point on the value of the boxes is well taken.

[Grid]

Just getting around to reading replies. I appreciate the perspective you bring here. Hadn't thought of that but it's probably the best counter to my frustration. Also, I think your point on the value of the boxes is well taken.

I just don't see why you would consider them a blight. They make so many different cards, because so many collectors chase different things. The same reason casinos don't just have 1 type of slot machine to play.

No matter your stance on player worn cards. Even if the player only wore the jersey during a photo shoot, or worse than that, wore it for a few seconds before signing his cards/stickers at home/show/elsewhere. That worthless swatch still has more of a connection to the player on the card, than just the ink used to print them.

And that is still kinda cool, after all these years. Even if its played out some by now, its still better than having no connection at all IMO.

[Astros19]

I've always looked at the swatches as being part of the card design. I hate it when the spot for the jersey is just random and cuts into a player on the card like the Pujols pictured. They look much nicer when incorporated into the design like the Bulger pictured.
Put me down in the minority who really doesn't care about game-used or player worn.
It's a 1 square inch piece of fabric. It just doesn't matter to me.520377520378

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[rogueriver]

I don’t mind the jersey cards from the 1990s back when they were tough to pull, the problem for me is how now every pack has one there is nothing fun about pulling it when you are guaranteed 2-3 of them in every pack. Go back to 1 in 720 packs and they will be collectible again. However I guess when you are paying $100 for a single pack like today it would get pricey to chase....We have become too spoiled 4 hits or more per box, I miss 1 hit per case, and not a 4 box case either, real 20 box cases.

[Canthardlymiss1]

I don’t mind the jersey cards from the 1990s back when they were tough to pull, the problem for me is how now every pack has one there is nothing fun about pulling it when you are guaranteed 2-3 of them in every pack. Go back to 1 in 720 packs and they will be collectible again. However I guess when you are paying $100 for a single pack like today it would get pricey to chase....We have become too spoiled 4 hits or more per box, I miss 1 hit per case, and not a 4 box case either, real 20 box cases.

^This x100

[salthill]

I don’t mind the jersey cards from the 1990s back when they were tough to pull, the problem for me is how now every pack has one there is nothing fun about pulling it when you are guaranteed 2-3 of them in every pack. Go back to 1 in 720 packs and they will be collectible again. However I guess when you are paying $100 for a single pack like today it would get pricey to chase....We have become too spoiled 4 hits or more per box, I miss 1 hit per case, and not a 4 box case either, real 20 box cases.


That’s when people collected base and the hits were nice extras. Now people collect hits and the base are treated like packing peanuts.

[NHRonin]

My pet peeves are
I) Swatches should not be inserted if not from a game
2) This new phenomenon where sellers in the hobby are calling anything and everything a patch including a single color Jersey. Some pumper along the way led the flock astray as I even had folks at a show see Jersey cards of mine and call them patches :doh:

Otherwise, yeah I get the premise to preserve stuff but so long as not everything is cut up into a card I’m cool with it

It’s not a new phenomenon. People have been doing it for at least 20 years. Some out of ignorance, many to deceive buyers.

I personally am bored to death with jersey swatches. They’re of zero value to me at this point, especially since many suspect Panini is using off the rack crap.

That said, there are still mem cards I find appealing. The UD Premier Patches in hockey are outstanding.

[imbluestreak23]

It’s not a new phenomenon. People have been doing it for at least 20 years. Some out of ignorance, many to deceive buyers.

I personally am bored to death with jersey swatches. They’re of zero value to me at this point, especially since many suspect Panini is using off the rack crap.

That said, there are still mem cards I find appealing. The UD Premier Patches in hockey are outstanding.

It's gotten exponentially worse. Before, it was just the idiots like Kevin Burge before they faked the patch.

Now it's every kid wearing Joggers, rocking a Pelican Case and wearing all black attire while spouting the Gary Gospel

[Grid]

I personally am bored to death with jersey swatches. They’re of zero value to me at this point, especially since many suspect Panini is using off the rack crap.


Really not suspect, pretty much fact these days. Most everything is pretty much retail jerseys. I mean, they do go to Nike for some, and have generic jerseys made to be "used" for a hot second. But hardly anything is game used now, and they dont even try to hide it.

I do signings with players, and sometimes I'll take in stickers from Panini to be signed. As a certified agent, I witness the signings, attest to them, and often times they send generic jerseys for me to get the player to wear at the signing, so they can cut it up into cards.

In other words, the "player worn" jersey was worn for a moment at a hotel room signing, or even in Grid's Basement during a signing.

[PatsCollector]

I’m a fan of jersey cards, but only in the National Treasures set, and preferably when game used. They feel tacky in other products, but look nicely done in most of the NT product over the years.

Century Materials is probably my favorite.

[TawkCards]

I like older patch cards that actually state it was worn by the player featured on the card. Even with the new Topps I see they have have switched from "player worn" to game-used jersey. But it doesn't specifically say it was worn by the player featured on the card.

[Nester99]

Game used is great.

Player worn is a scam.

[flinchfree]

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[fatjacksonfan]

Jersey cards were always my favorites as a kid. I would rub the little swatch all the time, and thought it was so cool to have a piece of the player's jersey.

Like most everyone else here, I only really like game worn jerseys.

The player worn jerseys are kind of more gimmicky than actual memorabilia. Like those manufactured patches/medallions topps and panini make.

My favorite swatch card is actually this one:

Now some may see this as ruining a rare piece of memorabilia, but I see it as a way for collectors to own a piece of history that they would never dream of owning if it wasn't cut up.

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[Inferno]

Game worn jersey cards got me into this hobby in the first place 15 years ago and I will ALWAYS have an appreciation for them. But they have to be game worn, which luckily is still easy to come by in my sport (hockey) vs football where almost everything is at best player worn now. The Walmart rack, worn for 30 seconds in a hotel room crap has no value to me either. But I will never not pick up a game used jersey card without giving the swatch a little rub.

With that being said sentimentality plays a big role in my collecting. If you’re not the sentimental type who forms a connection to the player through the memorabilia and views them more as an aesthetic aspect of the card then I can understand why you may have jersey fatigue after 25 years of mem cards. But for me I can’t imagine a hobby without them. It’s sad to see game worn going to the wayside in favor of cheap and convenient alternatives. I for one don’t take game worn for granted and if anything I’m trying to get more of it while it’s still plentiful in hockey.

[Chris P]

I think for me Panini's lack of game used cards in Football has rekindled my interest in game used cards as a whole. I too remember when game used cards were "holy grail" pulls. Still remember my best friend pulling a game used Terrell Davis jersey card out of a single pack of 1999 Upper Deck from Target. It was the first time i saw a game used card in person and it was amazing. My first game used pull was a Steve Young Piece of History Game Used Football card out of a Blaster of Ovation Football and even that was an amazing pull back then. Anyways as game used became more common and oversaturated I stopped caring for the most part but they are on my radar again especially football. Do we think guys like Mahomes Herbert Burrow etc will ever have game used cards in the future? They don't as of now right?

[Seahawks fan]

Do we think guys like Mahomes Herbert Burrow etc will ever have game used cards in the future? They don't as of now right?

I think they will but it will just blend in with the crap and not make a difference in price. It took awhile for Russell Wilson to get Game used cards and they don't sell for any more/less than the player worn junk. Always enjoy seeing his Reebok logo cards go for a ton of money despite him starting in 2012 when Nike took over making jerseys.

Only way I could see Game Used mem cards making a splash in prices is if they make a big deal out of having a ALL GAME USED SET and advertising the crap out of it. Most of the game used sets that are even dated are in low end sets and lost in the shuffle.

[Stifle]

Shiny > everything else

No stickers. No fading ink. No "player-worn" junk.

Just a shiny piece of cardboard with some element of scarcity is all I want.

No fading Ink is “Winner, Winner, Chicken dinner”.

Event Worn is like receiving a auto card that came from the hands of the players girlfriend or brother.

[mike1498]

The reason for the most part I trust when panini writes game worn on the back is because of primarily what’s written above. They aren’t even trying to hide that they aren’t putting game worn stuff into their products anymore and people still buy it regardless. It just shows they understand that their market couldn’t care if they did or did not put game worn patches in their products at all and as a result why would they lie about it?

[Samiamryan]

For me, On card Autos and game used cards. They are bringing you closer to the game and/or athlete. Inserts Like Kaboom or Downtown, just cardboard to me. Ne desire for me at all. And I think the market is FINALLY putting a premium on "game used" over player worn. I think THOSE will be the cards that stand out.