Platinum Card Breaks "G" Caught Trying to Steal a Redemption

[casebreaksllc]

Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qap3vpKLbsU

Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFApEK4UxFQ

not my video, thoughts?

[therealcjc33]

This is one of the many reasons I'm glad I quit the hobby.

[majestik101]

522632

[BostonNut]

G Homey! Fo Shozzle!!

[EBCollectibles]

Watch their videos: Perfect reason to stay away from energy drinks and drugs. They guy that opened the boxes was going to get a nice little gift. He knew that was there. Good try though.

[JeremyNick]

http://i.imgur.com/gVTFWGb.gif

[Brobocop]

What's up with how they stack the cards? They slammed them on top of one another. What an awful break and boy are they annoying.

[mnvikingstwins]

Are comments usually turned off on all their videos?

[daveyou]

wow. 11:05 pause and you can clearly see the redemption. unreal...

used to break with them before prices went insane back in 2018..

[RustyDawg37]

it doesnt matter if you are breaking cards or buying a television. Do your homework before giving away your money.

[casebreaksllc]

Are comments usually turned off on all their videos?

i dont think they are aware of this video yet, so likely

[packman80]

Cooks /99

[mmbtvs]

i dont think they are aware of this video yet, so likely

They are very likely aware of it already. The crew at Platinum are not strangers to controversy.

[JeremyNick]

How long before the Plat Fam Shills show up?

[mmbtvs]

How long before the Plat Fam Shills show up?

I'm not a plat fam shill by any means but I will say that I enjoy it when D breaks on that channel. Don't really get on when the others are there.

[I pull scrubs]

It is still showing on their break videos. I can't wait for an explanation. I never really broke with "G" because he is just not for me.(loud and I don't like rap music) The guy during the day, David, has always been great. With the amount they break and take in, just very, very foolish for a redemption card like that. But greed is greed.
BTW, great detective work and showing what happened.

[Zauron]

Man this guy that did the videos is Grade A detective lol

You can clearly see the redemption in the box and he probably did read it and knew what it was. Then sets it aside from the other boxes that got straight discarded.

Amazing.

[ddearing]

This is disgusting. We just started a (currently) small breaking company this year. We have 5 employees and we do absolutely everything the exact opposite of what I just saw with these guys. This is nuts. I guess they assume that they are big enough to get away with it. Can't be the first time its happened if they have a system for how to do it.

[mnvikingstwins]

Need to be sharing the video on any of the large facebook breaking/scam groups - preferably not scam groups where admins razz cars as scams though

[TDK39]

This is disgusting and an absolute shame....but people are still gonna break with them anyways unfortunately.

[meltedvanilluxe]

Why the hell do people buy their breaks in the first place? They literally man handle the cards and I shouldn’t have to explain why you should never buy a break where the boxes and packs aren’t ripped 1 by 1.


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[KOs Cardroom]

people still break with backyard breaks, so theyll still break with these guys

[Bob Ross]

I mean, just look at this dude. He looks like a walking scam.

[Siberian13]

How desperate do you have to be to steal a Justin Fields card? Thought it was going to be something really nice.

[WalterAZ31]

How desperate do you have to be to steal a Justin Fields card? Thought it was going to be something really nice.

Thr fields redemption is what they replaced with

Odds are the real redemption was probably shield auto

[boxbuster7]

This is malicious. Even worse than backyard breaks. Who knows what else they have stolen?

[imbluestreak23]

rY0WxgSXdEE

[BostonNut]

Gold chainz and rubber gloves...that's how we do! LETS GOOOOOOO!

[hche]

So is the double tab on the table a secret signal?

[Tumba]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/65os7odbIW6pa/giphy.gif


Explanation should be interesting. Just gonna leave this gif in response to it now.


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[Earlsnake07]

Absolutely ridiculous - no way to back out of this, but also would expect a rant video from platinum with g going insane (a la destroying the 1/1 Optic Nebula (I think) from a few years ago.

[KhalDrogo]

Backdoor Luber just announced a Plat Fam x Fanatics collab break of 2017 NT FB tonight.

[Tumba]

Backdoor Luber just announced a Plat Fam x Fanatics collab break of 2017 NT FB tonight.


https://media3.giphy.com/media/5p2wQFyu8GsFO/giphy.gif


Oh snap


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[packman80]

Backdoor Luber just announced a Plat Fam x Fanatics collab break of 2017 NT FB tonight.

Wonder what major hit was planted in the box as you know only way they announce this is if they know it's a loaded box they made sure was going to hit big cards.

[2010GBPackers]

As someone who has never participated in a break (although I watched a good deal of them in their infancy, circa 2014), I cannot believe this is what the new entrants into our hobby are exposed to. I can only hope this downturn in the market forces these scammers to move on to their next scheme.

[packman80]

As someone who has never participated in a break (although I watched a good deal of them in their infancy, circa 2014), I cannot believe this is what the new entrants into our hobby are exposed to. I can only hope this downturn in the market forces these scammers to move on to their next scheme.

As long as there are degenerate gamblers out there willing to take a chance they hit a big card the breakers will be there making a profit off them.

[2010GBPackers]

As long as there are degenerate gamblers out there willing to take a chance they hit a big card the breakers will be there making a profit off them.

I know it. We've gamified our entire society and I'm not sure there's any turning back.

[whoshotjr]

Gold chainz and rubber gloves...that's how we do! LETS GOOOOOOO!

Wears gloves and then proceeds to haphazardly re-arrange and slam the cards around.

[solt0131]

Who and what was the redemption?

[SupermanBrandon]

...and these are the types of guys that are the faces of our hobby! BYB, Plat, Luber, Gary V, etc etc.

[SleeperCards]

Who and what was the redemption?

Fields NFL Gear Auto, video states $4-5k card, didn't check value myself, but it doesn't really matter what the value was.

[meltedvanilluxe]

Fields NFL Gear Auto, video states $4-5k card, didn't check value myself, but it doesn't really matter what the value was.


Doesn’t matter for their rep hopefully but the question is now how many times and how long have they done this? They can’t be that stupid (maybe giving too much credit here) to risk their reputation for a single card that isn’t worth the amount of money they probably pull in a single hour. I mean, these guys are probably too 10 breakers in terms of volume right?


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[boxbuster7]

Fields NFL Gear Auto, video states $4-5k card, didn't check value myself, but it doesn't really matter what the value was.

No. They swapped out the redemption with a different one. People think it was a shield autograph.

[csrockerzero]

Edit: People above already said it. Redemption in question may have been swapped.

[Grid]

Edit: People above already said it. Redemption in question may have been swapped.

Which just goes to show what a well oiled scam machine they could have going.

Double tap means (I just palmed a card)

When the crew sees/hears that, the redemption gets switched with a lesser one, just in case they need to show it. Intern comes in to take out the trash, in the middle of a live stream. And what ever other pieces need to be moved around in order to pull it off.

I have no dog in this fight, and I assume the above is how the scam could work. But I do not have proof of anything. Just playing the same assumption game as most.

[Deadshot]

Rule #2: Double Tap

[2010GBPackers]

Which just goes to show what a well oiled scam machine they could have going.

Double tap means (I just palmed a card)

When the crew sees/hears that, the redemption gets switched with a lesser one, just in case they need to show it. Intern comes in to take out the trash, in the middle of a live stream. And what ever other pieces need to be moved around in order to pull it off.

I have no dog in this fight, and I assume the above is how the scam could work. But I do not have proof of anything. Just playing the same assumption game as most.

Yeah, something else was definitely going on here. At 3:45 in the 1st video you see "G" do the double-tap and in the upper right-hand corner, you see the guy "taking out the garbage" immediately go over to the right side of his desk where the box was. Whether they switched out redemptions, we may never know, but all three of those guys are in on the scheme.

[packman80]

Could always tie these guys up and beat them with a phone book until they talk. LOL.

[SupermanBrandon]

Im going to assume this isn't the 1st time. Give the internet a few minutes. If these guys have done the double tap before while scamming...it will come out!

[Earlsnake07]

Has anyone been on the channel at all today? Just curious if people are blowing them up over everything.....

[koneil]

Wears gloves and then proceeds to haphazardly re-arrange and slam the cards around.
When he tossed the empty boxes on the table right next to the stack of his customer's extremely high value cards :eek: They literally nicked the cards lol

[Siberian13]

Could always tie these guys up and beat them with a phone book until they talk. LOL.

Don’t even have to be physical. Just dangle food in front of them while they starve. They will break. Fatties can’t handle that style of torture.

[ATLOTP]

great catch. I'm sure nothing will happen.

[Boredlawyer]

Why does the hobby collectively fall for d-bags? This hobby collectively gives the benefit of the doubt to grifters, whether it's people like Platinum or Gary Vee. I wouldn't want to spend five minutes in the same room as someone like this, much less reward them with my hard earned money.

I've never seen a hobby that has so much patience for such an unappealing group of people.

[BostonNut]

Why does the hobby collectively fall for d-bags? This hobby collectively gives the benefit of the doubt to grifters, whether it's people like Platinum or Gary Vee. I wouldn't want to spend five minutes in the same room as someone like this, much less reward them with my hard earned money.

I've never seen a hobby that has so much patience for such an unappealing group of people.

It's not a hobby at that point, it's an addiction.

[Siberian13]

Why does the hobby collectively fall for d-bags? This hobby collectively gives the benefit of the doubt to grifters, whether it's people like Platinum or Gary Vee. I wouldn't want to spend five minutes in the same room as someone like this, much less reward them with my hard earned money.

I've never seen a hobby that has so much patience for such an unappealing group of people.

This entire “hobby” as it’s called just feeds off addiction. We are on a forum that does breaks and has jacked up prices. Everyone is taking advantage and it’s pretty sad.

[Grid]

Rule #2: Double Tap

https://c.tenor.com/UnC6FqUSn-IAAAAC/zombieland-doubletap.gif


Why does the hobby collectively fall for d-bags? This hobby collectively gives the benefit of the doubt to grifters, whether it's people like Platinum or Gary Vee. I wouldn't want to spend five minutes in the same room as someone like this, much less reward them with my hard earned money.

I've never seen a hobby that has so much patience for such an unappealing group of people.

Its human nature, and not just cards. Being loud and putting on a show sucks in the rubes. Just like the sideshow barkers, or the pimps hanging out in the red light district.

https://y.yarn.co/fdccb67c-0ed9-4d25-89f5-45b54d2eb1c7_text.gif

[jlzinck]

I would never break with a moron wearing black gloves.

Lowlifes

[solt0131]

great catch. I'm sure nothing will happen.

Agreed. They may lose a handful of customers but will gain just as many because they won't have a clue. In the end, it will be business as usual for them raking in the money day after day after day.......

[SupermanBrandon]

Agreed. They may lose a handful of customers but will gain just as many because they won't have a clue. In the end, it will be business as usual for them raking in the money day after day after day.......

Bingo. Unfortunately in today's hobby...just be quiet about your scamming. When caught, just act as if nothing happened...let your diehards defend you...offer a free giveaway in a few weeks...and BOOM!...your back to makin' bank, bro. Don't hate the player, hate the game BOOMER!

[Tumba]

I would never break with a moron wearing black gloves.

Lowlifes


https://media1.giphy.com/media/lw75Al819OAvcsPcRu/giphy.gif

My man haha same


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[JeremyNick]

White gloves only for this guy.

Cardbutler.com

[mnvikingstwins]

Agreed. They may lose a handful of customers but will gain just as many because they won't have a clue. In the end, it will be business as usual for them raking in the money day after day after day.......

Only way to stop it is constant trolling their live breaks informing people of their scam

[mnvikingstwins]

And probably forward the video to Peach/GTS/Southern and anyone else supplying them

[mnvikingstwins]

Mods staying active

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[GMSportsCards]

Same dude is live right now. Hit em hard!

[mnvikingstwins]

Same dude is live right now on their site. Hit em hard!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrCjXpIKw-g

[whoshotjr]

claiming the box set aside for a booklet lol

[Fulmer4MVP]

Dude is going hard, he is an interesting shade of purple.

[msucollector4]

what a moron

[mossoholic]

He said this video is only for the people he f***s with!

[GMSportsCards]

Dang, I got sent to Time Out too.

[mnvikingstwins]

Instantly deleted a comment saying that the box wasn't in the trash it was on the table

[mossoholic]

All those guys buying into his breaks getting 5-10% average ROI the last 2 years straight this guy loves you! He's only sorry to those people that "f*** with us". If you break with him he f***s with you! Says he would never rip you off. Yet every break is a rip off. Seconds later says he "used to" do a bunch of grimy stuff. Yeah Im sure.

[Boo]

What a douche

[KhalDrogo]

Too many simps in the hobby.

[GMSportsCards]

At this point, any idiot that defends and continues breaking with them deserve whatever they get. Or more importantly, what they don't get.

[mnvikingstwins]

Even at 0.25x playback can't get a frame clear enough at 8:14 to see if the original redemption was the same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uAWgiAoHi0&t=1s

[AwesomeBrian]

His blow was wearing off, had to go to the back room for another bump

[csrockerzero]

And just like that, filled their first NT football break of the day.

[jlzinck]

Block whoever might call you out of your scumbaggery. Nice model

[jlzinck]

holy poop watching these fanboys lick the anus of platinum is disturbing

[msucollector4]

Even at 0.25x playback can't get a frame clear enough at 8:14 to see if the original redemption was the same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uAWgiAoHi0&t=1s

Need CSI on it ENHANCE!!!

[hche]

Even at 0.25x playback can't get a frame clear enough at 8:14 to see if the original redemption was the same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uAWgiAoHi0&t=1s

The camera was out of focus. Not much can be done.

[Boo]

I called them thieving dbags and asked if they were still tugging on their nuts and didn’t get deleted. Jon gets deleted in 5 seconds :cry::cry:

[jlzinck]

I called them thieving dbags and asked if they were still tugging on their nuts and didn’t get deleted. Jon gets deleted in 5 seconds :cry::cry:

Yours showed deleted to me.... Hmmmmm

That Tyler Koss lives on platinum semen

[packman80]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrCjXpIKw-g

Guessing that Taylor Koss is the G guy's burner account as he's the only one in the chat bashing everyone who is calling them out.

[hche]

Guessing that Taylor Koss is the G guy's burner account as he's the only one in the chat bashing everyone who is calling them out.

I was going to say the same thing. He is the only one in a different tone when defending them.

[RedMike]

I watch the video.. and it is pretty clear the dude was doing something shady because of that box he left on the side - he also did himself in because he wasn't like, we have one box here.. let me look in side.. he completely try to play it off that they were all in the bag.


checkmate.

[Coventry6546]

In his rebuttal, isn't he claiming that he opened the boxes and he always slides a box to the right for "booklets". Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't someone else open the boxes and dude in Yankees hat is the one that slid the box with a redemption???

[Boo]

Yours showed deleted to me.... Hmmmmm

That Tyler Koss lives on platinum semen

Just got my TO. After I said G was doing some lines and was a fat loser. They let me get away with a decent amount.

[mmbtvs]

In his rebuttal, isn't he claiming that he opened the boxes and he always slides a box to the right for "booklets". Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't someone else open the boxes and dude in Yankees hat is the one that slid the box with a redemption???

No, he did both.

[Bob Ross]

These dudes are truly the worst. Maybe worse than those guys that break in their backyard.

[anusinha]

Fanatics announces new partnership with G

[packman80]

Platinum Card Breaks and Backyard Breaks announce new partnership bringing you Backyard Platinum Scammers.

[kyle1707]

breaker has a routine every time he does the same thing. opens the boxes, shows the camera, and then throws them in the trash. he broke his routine, looked at the redemption, set the box off to the side and not in the trash.

Without question he saw hit

Does this surprise anyone?

These breakers are hot dirty gambling boats

Completely screwed up the hobby

The 2 biggest Layton and platinum. I don’t know what one is harder to watch

[imbluestreak23]

I don't trust fat people

Especially wearing chainz

[kyle1707]

Damage control. Lmao

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JlWf9USGlsY

[imbluestreak23]

Damage control. Lmao

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JlWf9USGlsY

This has to be Boomo's cousin

[kyle1707]

That second video shows it clear as day. He was stealing it

Then he does a 24 minute video yelling and sweating. And lying

This is awful

[packman80]

Damage control. Lmao

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JlWf9USGlsY

Guy sounds and looks like a Soprano's reject.

[JJT19]

#@#@#@#@ that dude and having comments turned off haha what a pussy, knows hes lying.

[nabzy28]

He could have immediately opened up that box and showed it well before awaiting the return of the trash. Didn't.

Who cares if it was for booklets? Why can't box 1, 2 or 4 be for booklets to ship in after the breaks?

Not buying the excuses.

[BeastMode27]

Why wouldn’t he look in the box sitting next to him? Instead of grabbing and acting like it was in the trash, and then throwing it back on the table with the rest hitting the stack of cards people just payed 20k for. No possible excuse for that.

[JeremyNick]

That second video shows it clear as day. He was stealing it

Then he does a 24 minute video yelling and sweating. And lying

This is awful

That is “G”.

[Archangel1775]

I don't trust fat people

Especially wearing chainz

I just took my chain off. Damn it, I'm still fat! fook off man! :)

[TheFrenzy]

https://i.imgur.com/G6mf19C.gif

[Archangel1775]

Why do I watch this sh*t, since when was Fields a bench player?

[Bob Ross]

Damage control. Lmao

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JlWf9USGlsY

https://c.tenor.com/ThWmIN3zO0MAAAAC/really-trading-places.gif

[Gthompson1978]

All the loud talking, cussing and rap music is all a distraction to keep attention focused elsewhere. The slapping of the cards I thought was always a bunch of BS. But they have there loyals I guess, or it seems so in the live chat…. Been busy for sure, kinda comical

[Archangel1775]

Putting his personality and music choice aside, the way he breaks is all kinds of wrong. He needs to clean that up or at least slow the heck down. My initial thought is....everything is on camera. The box and card in question is on camera. People can see it inside the box. It would just seem foolish to steal like that as a business owner.

[seanbros55]

I like when the guy that made the video paused it when the crook had his back to the camera and his neck/head looked like an 8-pack of hot dogs.

[POKTRITON]

Has anyone posted these videos on other social media? I’m sure fanatics and the distributors will love this. Nothing like growing a business on the back of fraudsters and gambling addicts

[Siberian13]

Has anyone posted these videos on other social media? I’m sure fanatics and the distributors will love this. Nothing like growing a business on the back of fraudsters and gambling addicts

Why would they care? Those companies are part of the problem and just as scummy.

[tier1dc]

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[Onepocketj]

What a scumbag. I don't believe a word of his excuse. Sadly his sheep will still follow him and the other scammers there.

[cking]

I wonder if "G" met up in the parking lot with someone named "E" and sold them the redemption

[KOs Cardroom]

just shows if you want to build your viewer base, all you have to do is do something controversial. Bc people are that stupid now.

[herdfan87]

Damage control. Lmao

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JlWf9USGlsY

https://media3.giphy.com/media/QBal0eKnbT4OY/giphy.gif

Gotta love the part where he says he isn't starring into the box. I mean if I'm opening a box of NT for the price it costs, I'm triple checking that box. Dude is a clown.

[allhustlenoluck]

Yikes...Spent a bunch of money with this guy years ago... thought he was making so much money no way he'd be crooked.

[SkipAway]

Wow, this is horrible. It's hard to dispute what's on that video. Excellent work and nice catch by the person in the live chat.

"Oh, you're right!! Look at that - wow man, you just saved a Justin Fields card for the population lmao!! :flex:"

He was caught red-handed and sweating!!

I hoped at worst they bought a bunch of spots in their own breaks, or just kept all the would-be PSA 10 base rookie cards (non-numbered) and sent out the off-centereds. Still wrong but feels not as predatory.

But always feared it was something worse... like cooking the "random.net" order or knowing what was in a case/box before the break. Hadn't imagined this, though. Can't help but think of what they've stolen in the past.

This is brutal.

[thenightman]

So, based on this, I expect Josh Luber to announce a live break with Platinum Card Breaks within the week.

[Archangel1775]

So, based on this, I expect Josh Luber to announce a live break with Platinum Card Breaks within the week.

I expect a full partnership within 30 days and for them to be a Fanatics premiere "trusted" breaker and when Luber is asked why.......

Luber: They went viral and all the videos about them got thousands of likes :D

[CableRock]

I didn't read this thread yet, but I was looking at this video as I saw it on Reddit.

Here's screenshots of the card still in the box, and the very right shot is after they "pulled it out of the trash". To me it looks like it could have indeed been the same card, but maybe someone else has better eyes than me. I do think they tried stealing it, but I'm not sure if it was replaced.

https://i.ibb.co/CtfdgR0/redemption-screenshots.jpg

https://ibb.co/KGJZdTy

[Grizzkid12]

The video of what he did was way too long/boring and inconclusive for my taste

I watched his apology video and dude has a point. All of the people trolling weren’t buying with them anyways.

In 2022 everyone has an opinion and voice and rushes to jump in and give their opinion because they can.

Knowing his/their history and the cards they have pulled along with what it takes to do even a fraction of the numbers they are doing, I doubt he purposely stole the card, but I’ll never know for sure, just like nobody else will know for sure that he did

Oh, and this is coming from a direct competitor, and one whom he has trolled in their YouTube chat in the past for no reason at all

[CableRock]

The video of what he did was way too long/boring and inconclusive for my taste

I watched his apology video and dude has a point. All of the people trolling weren’t buying with them anyways.

In 2022 everyone has an opinion and voice and rushes to jump in and give their opinion because they can.

Knowing his/their history and the cards they have pulled along with what it takes to do even a fraction of the numbers they are doing, I doubt he purposely stole the card, but I’ll never know for sure, just like nobody else will know for sure that he did

Oh, and this is coming from a direct competitor, and one whom he has trolled in their YouTube chat in the past for no reason at all

The video is pretty damning IMO. I don't think any of this matters at all if you didn't even bother looking at it.

[Grizzkid12]

The video is pretty damning IMO. I don't think any of this matters at all if you didn't even bother looking at it.

Oh, I did watch it. Just saying it was a rough watch for me personally. I'm sure others found it more enjoyable/informative

[CableRock]

Fair enough, I misunderstood.

Edit: after seeing how these guys handle cards, and how they could apparently accidentally throw a 4 digit card away, I would avoid them even if it was an accident. I can't imagine not looking into a box of NT as a professional breaker before trashing it.

[Woodsy074]

The video of what he did was way too long/boring and inconclusive for my taste

I watched his apology video and dude has a point. All of the people trolling weren’t buying with them anyways.

In 2022 everyone has an opinion and voice and rushes to jump in and give their opinion because they can.

Knowing his/their history and the cards they have pulled along with what it takes to do even a fraction of the numbers they are doing, I doubt he purposely stole the card, but I’ll never know for sure, just like nobody else will know for sure that he did

Oh, and this is coming from a direct competitor, and one whom he has trolled in their YouTube chat in the past for no reason at all

What was inconclusive in your opinion? The video exposed the scam set by step. The slight of hand was clearly there. Whether or not they swapped it is the only question for me.

[KhalDrogo]

Was only a matter of time before a Platinum apologist came around.

[Cheddar]

As someone who has been in breaks there, that video does not look good at all. I wasn’t a fan of the explanation video essentially just crapping on Justin Fields and explaining how it’s a garbage card anyway. I’ve always avoided joining when “G” is breaking because of the way he handles cards and slams them around. I also find that he has relatively little knowledge of players and products.

That being said, although it’s a family operation, the people who break for them are all very different. “D”, the actual owner of Platinum, is great to break with. He provides a ton of great insight into the business of breaking, is mild mannered, and appreciative of his customers. I had a situation where they lost about $600 worth of cards, but they quickly offered to either replace the cards by buying on eBay or send me the value of the cards, which they followed through on.

I’m torn on if I’d ever join a break of theirs again. With G, no way in hell, but I avoided him anyway. I do think D is a pretty stand up guy though.

[Brobocop]

Even if the redemption wasn’t mishandled, everything else about this break was awful. Stacking all the cards and slamming them into one another on a product that is $5k a box, what is up with that? Add to how annoying they are.


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[bloodwings19]

thought he was making so much money no way he'd be crooked.

So many Logoman they pulled. The way they handled cards is why I never joined. At the same time, I never have gotten a Gem card from any breakers.

[solt0131]

holy poop watching these fanboys lick the anus of platinum is disturbing

This is the same as the guy who loses all his money at the casino and throws his players card in the trash and vows never to come back, yet is back the next day. It's guys with addictive personalities that can't stop or help themselves.

[Kollectornet]

I tried to watch his response video and couldn't finish. First, that expose video clearly shows him lifting the box and looking at the redemption stuck in the box. That one box, he decides to put to the side and sneakily move it to the trash bag. He knew what he was doing and they all are in on it.

[2010GBPackers]

The video of what he did was way too long/boring and inconclusive for my taste

I watched his apology video and dude has a point. All of the people trolling weren’t buying with them anyways.

In 2022 everyone has an opinion and voice and rushes to jump in and give their opinion because they can.

Knowing his/their history and the cards they have pulled along with what it takes to do even a fraction of the numbers they are doing, I doubt he purposely stole the card, but I’ll never know for sure, just like nobody else will know for sure that he did

Oh, and this is coming from a direct competitor, and one whom he has trolled in their YouTube chat in the past for no reason at all

Of course you'd come in and say some dumb sh!1 like this. Everyone on God's green earth knows what happened here. Sorry your attention span can handle focusing for 12 minutes. This hobby will be better when people like you leave.

People "rush to jump in and give their opinion because they can"?! You just admitted you didn't take the time to watch the video. YOU'RE the one rushing to jump in and give an uniformed opinion!

God, I pray for our country's next generation.....

[notfast]

Why would anyone break with these guys? same with backyard breaks.

Obnoxious as sh’t, loud as hell, arrogant AND, most importantly, overpriced. Literally higher than 99% of breaks out there and people eat it up.

People really are idiots.

[Onepocketj]

Of course you'd come in and say some dumb sh!1 like this. Everyone on God's green earth knows what happened here. Sorry your attention span can handle focusing for 12 minutes. This hobby will be better when people like you leave.

People "rush to jump in and give their opinion because they can"?! You just admitted you didn't take the time to watch the video. YOU'RE the one rushing to jump in and give an uniformed opinion!

God, I pray for our country's next generation.....

Everyone would be much better off if they just put that dude on block.

[EBCollectibles]

Why would anyone break with these guys? same with backyard breaks.

Obnoxious as sh’t, loud as hell, arrogant AND, most importantly, overpriced. Literally higher than 99% of breaks out there and people eat it up.

People really are idiots.

I guess whoever breaks with Backyard and Platinum deserve each other.

[MD202041]

It’s absolutely mind blowing how anyone can defend that dude. The card and box weren’t placed in the trash it was right off to the side of the table and he was looking at it. Right there on camera in plain view.

What’s even worse is his “response” video. 25 minutes of sweating, pink and purple head coloring, and loud and obnoxious excuse making starting with Justin Fields being a bench player. What a lying dirtbag loser. Accept accountability you doofus. Seriously. Bunch of lame cockamamie excuses and trashing the redemption card and player itself.

Couldn’t be a worse look. That’s a fact.

[Mac302]

The video of what he did was way too long/boring and inconclusive for my taste

I watched his apology video and dude has a point. All of the people trolling weren’t buying with them anyways.

In 2022 everyone has an opinion and voice and rushes to jump in and give their opinion because they can.

Knowing his/their history and the cards they have pulled along with what it takes to do even a fraction of the numbers they are doing, I doubt he purposely stole the card, but I’ll never know for sure, just like nobody else will know for sure that he did

Oh, and this is coming from a direct competitor, and one whom he has trolled in their YouTube chat in the past for no reason at all


I'll agree as well it was painful listening and watching that guy narrate the scam video he made.....he was terribly boring and SLOW.

BUT the video still clearly shows something very shady going on...not sure how you can't conclude that from the video. I break with some breakers from time to time but I've never used Platinum....I certainly wouldn't now.

[packman80]

Why would anyone break with these guys? same with backyard breaks.

Obnoxious as sh’t, loud as hell, arrogant AND, most importantly, overpriced. Literally higher than 99% of breaks out there and people eat it up.

People really are idiots.

Because there are enough idiots with money that have the same type of personality as these morons and think hey they are as dumb and annoying like me I will follow them and give them my money.

[koneil]

It’s absolutely mind blowing how anyone can defend that dude. The card and box weren’t placed in the trash it was right off to the side of the table and he was looking at it. Right there on camera in plain view.

What’s even worse is his “response” video. 25 minutes of sweating, pink and purple head coloring, and loud and obnoxious excuse making starting with Justin Fields being a bench player. What a lying dirtbag loser. Accept accountability you doofus. Seriously. Bunch of lame cockamamie excuses and trashing the redemption card and player itself.

Couldn’t be a worse look. That’s a fact.
Isn't the video accusing him of pulling a swap? I don't get why part of his excuse would be to bash Fields in a "why would I ever steal that card?!?" type of way. No one is accusing him of stealing the Fields card, right? We are thinking Fields was swapped in for a different monster redemption. Maybe I misunderstood the scam video. If anything he is being a moron and furthering the case. Yes we agree... you swapped out an amazing card for that of Justin Fields, the bench player.

[SupermanBrandon]

If you’re defending BYB or Plat…you too should be considered a scammer in our hobby. You are who you associate with!


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[packman80]

Isn't the video accusing him of pulling a swap? I don't get why part of his excuse would be to bash Fields in a "why would I ever steal that card?!?" type of way. No one is accusing him of stealing the Fields card, right? We are thinking Fields was swapped in for a different monster redemption. Maybe I misunderstood the scam video. If anything he is being a moron and furthering the case. Yes we agree... you swapped out an amazing card for that of Justin Fields, the bench player.

I think people were accusing him of stealing because he would have never shown that card had he not got called out on it. So in fact he was stealing. The I threw it away by mistake holds no water.

[Grid]

The video of what he did was way too long/boring and inconclusive for my taste

I watched his apology video and dude has a point. All of the people trolling weren’t buying with them anyways.

In 2022 everyone has an opinion and voice and rushes to jump in and give their opinion because they can.

Knowing his/their history and the cards they have pulled along with what it takes to do even a fraction of the numbers they are doing, I doubt he purposely stole the card, but I’ll never know for sure, just like nobody else will know for sure that he did

Oh, and this is coming from a direct competitor, and one whom he has trolled in their YouTube chat in the past for no reason at all

And spoken like a direct competitor. When bad breakers get exposed, its bad for the brand of all breakers. The entire industry is built on trust. And if people start questioning breakers, that inherently is bad for you.

So I completely understand why you made this post.

With that said, why does it matter if someone has broken with them before? Those opinions somehow don't qualify? Shouldn't it be the other way around, and the loyalists or those with a direct interest in Platinum should have their opinions taken with a grain of salt?

After all, sports bring in refs, judges and umpires since you cant have the players decide what infractions happened. Those not involved directly in the game, should have the most just opinion I'd think.

[Grid]

Isn't the video accusing him of pulling a swap? I don't get why part of his excuse would be to bash Fields in a "why would I ever steal that card?!?" type of way. No one is accusing him of stealing the Fields card, right? We are thinking Fields was swapped in for a different monster redemption. Maybe I misunderstood the scam video. If anything he is being a moron and furthering the case. Yes we agree... you swapped out an amazing card for that of Justin Fields, the bench player.

IMO, while it might have been implied that the redemption could have been swapped. But that really isn't the point of debate. The scam video was calling out the theft of a redemption. What redemption it was, really doesn't matter.

I think this G Dude saw a redemption, which would have really only been for a signed card, possibly saw Justin Fields on it, and had to made a quick decision to palm it.

Fields RPAs are selling for $7K plus. If you are stealing, that is a good one to grab.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

I’m sure they’ll be breaking with Josh Luber soon.

[KhalDrogo]

Makes perfect sense that Grizzchild is a breaker.

[MattSobel2]

A few years ago I joined a break with them after not doing any breaks with them for about a year. I had moved. I joined a filler and paid direct and hit a $150 card or so and never received my card so I contacted them. They said I had to send them an e-mail with a change of address on their website. I had joined a filler though and they told me to pay direct paypal goods which had my new address. Not really scammy persay, just really crappy and bad customer service by them. It was on the checkout feature of the website that I needed to contact them to change address but I had joined the filler and paid direct as their instruction.

[tier1dc]

Isn't the video accusing him of pulling a swap? I don't get why part of his excuse would be to bash Fields in a "why would I ever steal that card?!?" type of way. No one is accusing him of stealing the Fields card, right? We are thinking Fields was swapped in for a different monster redemption. Maybe I misunderstood the scam video. If anything he is being a moron and furthering the case. Yes we agree... you swapped out an amazing card for that of Justin Fields, the bench player.

No. The 2 part video is only pointing out that he attempted to steal the redemption outright and got caught by the chat.

That is all.

Others suggested he might have swapped it out. No way of knowing.

[WYTMKE]

A few years ago I joined a break with them after not doing any breaks with them for about a year. I had moved. I joined a filler and paid direct and hit a $150 card or so and never received my card so I contacted them. They said I had to send them an e-mail with a change of address on their website. I had joined a filler though and they told me to pay direct paypal goods which had my new address. Not really scammy persay, just really crappy and bad customer service by them. It was on the checkout feature of the website that I needed to contact them to change address but I had joined the filler and paid direct as their instruction.

Not defending but I do not think they use PayPal for shipping that's why you have to register on their site and everything like that I think they use stamps.com or something like that

[MattSobel2]

A few years ago I joined a break with them after not doing any breaks with them for about a year. I had moved. I joined a filler and paid direct and hit a $150 card or so and never received my card so I contacted them. They said I had to send them an e-mail with a change of address on their website. I had joined a filler though and they told me to pay direct paypal goods which had my new address. Not really scammy persay, just really crappy and bad customer service by them. It was on the checkout feature of the website that I needed to contact them to change address but I had joined the filler and paid direct as their instruction.

Forgot to say, when I told them about this, they said tough cookies, card is gone, no credit, nothing

[MattSobel2]

Not defending but I do not think they use PayPal for shipping that's why you have to register on their site and everything like that I think they use stamps.com or something like that

I hadn't joined a break of theirs in 3 years prior to that break lol so I didn't think they would have an old address and they didn't inform me of needing to change it as they told me to pay via paypal for the filler and not thru site

[WYTMKE]

I hadn't joined a break of theirs in 3 years prior to that break lol so I didn't think they would have an old address and they didn't inform me of needing to change it as they told me to pay via paypal for the filler and not thru site

Gotcha

[halldogg]

I watched 2 minutes of his apology video...

In my best Maury Povich voice:

The test is conclusive, He is a liar!

Once some gets louder and louder, red in the face and sweats profusely, they are lying. Anyone that trusts them from here on out has it coming to them. Though they may find better ways to conceal it in the future. Last nights breaks were incredible with the amount of fanboys that they have sticking up for them. At $1869 per slot of an NT break, I would be concerned if I was getting the actual cards that belong to me or if I will be missing out on future cards and not know it. He tried to pull a fast one and got caught. Plain and simple. It is indisputable evidence. He is a crook and the rest are too if they allow him to stay on with them.

[koneil]

IMO, while it might have been implied that the redemption could have been swapped. But that really isn't the point of debate. The scam video was calling out the theft of a redemption. What redemption it was, really doesn't matter.

I think this G Dude saw a redemption, which would have really only been for a signed card, possibly saw Justin Fields on it, and had to made a quick decision to palm it.

Fields RPAs are selling for $7K plus. If you are stealing, that is a good one to grab.
Waters are getting muddied. That Fields card sold for $1.2k on eBay. Maybe not at the time the video was made because OP stating the guy stole a $4-5k card confused the heck out of me. And several others I assume by looking at the first few pages

[JJT19]

Why hasnt the owner of the site said anything? You think he would want to be on top of whats going on.

[kobemagee29]

Why hasnt the owner of the site said anything? You think he would want to be on top of whats going on.

Probably hard to get ahold of the owner when maybe there on vacation or doing something else with all the money they make of the suckers

[POKTRITON]

Why hasnt the owner of the site said anything? You think he would want to be on top of whats going on.

I believe his brother David is the owner and he should be making a statement. They won't though as the majority of platinums business is guys who are looking for high stakes gambling and have no interest in collecting. David is a knowledgeable breaker but once he is off air Platinum goes downhill real fast. G, Megz, Austin & JoJo are mostly clueless with current product

[Orangejello727]

Was only a matter of time before a Platinum apologist came around.

Reminds me off the same apologist who keep giving PSA, Goldin and PWCC the benefit of the doubt as they screw up weekly. The scam people and a quick response with "we'll do better" and BAM.. all you guys are back on their sacks again.

So typical of this industry

[Bob Ross]

Why is he so purple and shiny looking?

[mallowciraptor]

I rarely do breaks (outside of a couple close friends I have that do them) but I always love when scammers get exposed like this. Anyone that chooses to do business with Platinum at this point gets what they deserve.

I'm curious but does anyone know what monster cards haven't been hit from NT yet that this mystery card could be...

[I pull scrubs]

Just giving my opinion, I have broken with Platinum for probably 6 or 7 years and never expected to see this. I am not an apologist and can only give the facts of what I've experienced with them over the years. I never felt cheated by them and they have responded within hours if there has ever been a mail issue. (twice with probably 100+ orders) I think back now of all the valuable cards acquired from their breaks that could have disappeared if they were dishonest because I never got insurance. Every last card was received and quicker than any other breaker I've spent with. The main breaker during the day for me, "D" is in my opinion, the best breaker out there. He acts how I want a breaker to act. But I am just one person, with one opinion, to each his own. That being said, I don't care for "G" at all. He is loud and a complete distraction when it comes to breaking for me and I truly do not care for his taste in music. He moves around real fast, has his kids and pets in and out of the room etc. But he can do what he wants because it is his channel. Therefore, I refrain from breaking with him if possible, but I can't control the one or two times he comes into the room and my breaks with Plat are still going on. But I have seen enough of him over the years to know this is how he acts all of the time and this could happen. I'm not going to argue about the video because it is what it is, and your minds are made up no matter what was said afterwards. And I'm not looking for any response at all here, just giving my opinion with what I've dealt with over the years.

[Bob Ross]

Are we sure that young dude with the glasses isn't being held captive?

[BostonNut]

Why is he so purple and shiny looking?

Probably because he chain swallows Slim Jims?

[I pull scrubs]

Are we sure that young dude with the glasses isn't being held captive?

Oh, you mean McLovin :)

[Bob Ross]

Oh, you mean McLovin :)

Yes, him. Should we be worried about him and call authorities?

[Grid]

Waters are getting muddied. That Fields card sold for $1.2k on eBay. Maybe not at the time the video was made because OP stating the guy stole a $4-5k card confused the heck out of me. And several others I assume by looking at the first few pages

Read what you quoted.

I said "I think this G Dude saw a redemption, which would have really only been for a signed card, possibly saw Justin Fields on it, and had to made a quick decision to palm it.

Fields RPAs are selling for $7K plus."

He saw Fields, saw that it was a redemption, and then palmed it. This was all done split second. If the card turned out to not be the RPA, and was worth less, that is not muddying up anything.

You are using his defense. That he wouldn't have done this for a lesser valued card. But in that instant, he could have very well thought it was a card that could have been worth thousands more. Its not like he stopped to read if it was an insert, and then went on ebay looking for comps before he stole it.

Besides, it could have been a $1 card. It doesnt change what seemed to have happened.

[TheFrenzy]

So many Logoman they pulled. The way they handled cards is why I never joined. At the same time, I never have gotten a Gem card from any breakers.

It's deviously ingenious of them.

Treat the cards like #### because:

- The cards meant for you and your friends are getting trimmed anyways.

- The cards meant for all the scrubs who joined the break get dinged and bring down the Gem 10 pop reports.

The perfect crime.

[casebreaksllc]

what really gets me is when he's showing Austin untie the garbage bag, he is still concealing that box he picked up off the table. he then does a turbo 180 spin move to put his back to the garbage again concealing that box.

if he just set it to the side for a booklet why not open it right away? why go through all this to conceal it and then stuff it back in the garbage and pull it out. then when its on the table he has his hand on it, takes it off to grab the box next to it, then does that one last like he knows it's in there.

watch the way he opens it then, almost pulling it off camera again. looks like hes trying to fling the redemption out without the camera seeing because he knows he's caught.

i have broken a lot with these guys in the past, never felt cheated, but i just think the temptation got him on this one and he made a poor choice of judgement. he himself said in his apology he's done some really scummy stuff in his past.

[SupermanBrandon]

Stealing is Stealing! Price of the item...DOES NOT MATTER!

[davz13]

Crazy.
Plus, like many people commented, the breakers slams the cards into a pile after he gets them out of the box; he's probably damaging good cards.
Very unprofessional on multiple fronts.

[TheFrenzy]

i just think the temptation got him on this one and he made a poor choice of judgement. he himself said in his apology he's done some really scummy stuff in his past.

I can only imagine the stories his ex-girlfriends could tell.

[beavers]

If he was innocent, the second someone said there was a redemption in a box he should have shown and checked the "booklet" box. Instead he snuck it into the trash and pretended all of the boxes came back out of the trash. Something like, "I have a box I'm saving for a booklet here let me check it." Handling it and not mentioning it and then pretending it came back out of the trash is plain as day to me. SCAMMERS

[mallowciraptor]

i have broken a lot with these guys in the past, never felt cheated, but i just think the temptation got him on this one and he made a poor choice of judgement. he himself said in his apology he's done some really scummy stuff in his past.

Which now makes you wonder how many other times he's pulled this same scam and gotten away with it scot-free.

I'm sure BODA's finest could review the tape of previous breaks and find similar instances of sliminess. Wouldn't shock me to see Platinum mysteriously remove some old breaks to prevent this detective work...

[Cheddar]

I believe his brother David is the owner and he should be making a statement. They won't though as the majority of platinums business is guys who are looking for high stakes gambling and have no interest in collecting. David is a knowledgeable breaker but once he is off air Platinum goes downhill real fast. G, Megz, Austin & JoJo are mostly clueless with current product

I believe David is his brother-in-law, and Megz is his sister and married to G. David is undoubtedly one of the better breakers out there. I actually like Austin, as well. He's passionate about it without being annoying. He's not perfect, but he tries, and I don't think he'd ever try and scamming anyone.

I personally think it would go a long way if D parted ways with G... It'd show that they really value their customers. Every issue that they've had stems from G... ripping cards, hiding cards, slamming cards, etc. When there is smoke, there is usually fire. If it were Austin that did this, he'd be gone in a second.

[Boo]

I can only imagine the stories his ex-girlfriends could tell.

You think he's had girlfriends?

[blackbears86]

Which now makes you wonder how many other times he's pulled this same scam and gotten away with it scot-free.

I'm sure BODA's finest could review the tape of previous breaks and find similar instances of sliminess. Wouldn't shock me to see Platinum mysteriously remove some old breaks to prevent this detective work...




Exactly.

[blackbears86]

Stealing is Stealing! Price of the item...DOES NOT MATTER!




100%.


The fact it's Justin Fields doesn't make any difference.

[kyle1707]

Why hasnt the owner of the site said anything? You think he would want to be on top of whats going on.

Well if the owner lets a guy like G be the face of his business i doubt he cares about to many things besides money and gamblers

I can’t take 1 minute of that guy talking and slamming cards ….

Some people love to gamble and loud obnoxious people ?

[POKTRITON]

I hope BODA does look into this and if discovered there have been other instances people should be made aware especially those in the breaks.

[TheFrenzy]

You think he's had girlfriends?

I think girls have regained consciousness at his apartment.

[SupermanBrandon]

Word on IG is that Plat has deleted some of their past break videos, as of this morning.

[BostonNut]

G-Unit!

Go go go go go Shawty, it's yer berfday! We gun party like it's yo berfday!

[Boo]

Word on IG is that Plat has deleted some of their past break videos, as of this morning.

https://i.imgur.com/i7qou2C.gif

[koneil]

Read what you quoted.

I said "I think this G Dude saw a redemption, which would have really only been for a signed card, possibly saw Justin Fields on it, and had to made a quick decision to palm it.

Fields RPAs are selling for $7K plus."

He saw Fields, saw that it was a redemption, and then palmed it. This was all done split second. If the card turned out to not be the RPA, and was worth less, that is not muddying up anything.

You are using his defense. That he wouldn't have done this for a lesser valued card. But in that instant, he could have very well thought it was a card that could have been worth thousands more. Its not like he stopped to read if it was an insert, and then went on ebay looking for comps before he stole it.

Besides, it could have been a $1 card. It doesnt change what seemed to have happened.
I suppose I disagree with this notion that the scam attempt was as cut and dry tossing aside the Justin Fields auto and hoping his stream didn't notice. Are boxes guaranteed autos? I legitimately don't know much about NT so I don't know how commonplace it would be to just tell your customers they got shorted an auto. Which is what he would've had to do if they hadn't noticed right? Unless he involved a swap in which case the value of the Fields became relevant. I agree it does not matter in the case of theft in principle. Totally understood there

[TSonn]

The video of what he did was way too long/boring and inconclusive for my taste

I watched his apology video and dude has a point. All of the people trolling weren’t buying with them anyways.

In 2022 everyone has an opinion and voice and rushes to jump in and give their opinion because they can.

Knowing his/their history and the cards they have pulled along with what it takes to do even a fraction of the numbers they are doing, I doubt he purposely stole the card, but I’ll never know for sure, just like nobody else will know for sure that he did

Oh, and this is coming from a direct competitor, and one whom he has trolled in their YouTube chat in the past for no reason at all

Stealing a non-redemption card would be tough because it would be easy to see left in a pack/box - so I don't think they've had an opportunity to do this scam with a real card.

So then how many products have possible redemptions on the bottom of the box? Most redemptions in low to mid products are in the middle and in a pack, not a box. NT, Flawless, Immac, Noir, Opulence are the products that come to mind where a redemption could be and is typically on the bottom of the box.

Basically what I'm saying is that they haven't had endless opportunities - they can only do this scam with certain products. I don't want to watch any more of this sweaty dude yelling at me so hopefully others do the detective work to see if they've pulled it off in other breaks of NT, Immac, Flawless, Noir, etc.

If they've pulled a huge 1/1 card or some 6 figure card, it absolutely does not prove that this Fields redemption wasn't a scam. Totally different opportunity.

[TheFrenzy]

https://i.imgur.com/i7qou2C.gif

This causes me physical pain to say, but perfect gif.

[kyle1707]

For people up in the air about this

Just watch the first minute of the second video. Part 2

They’re is nothing to discus. He stole it. Plain and simple

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFApEK4UxFQ

[Boo]

This causes me physical pain to say, but perfect gif.

https://i.imgur.com/VnVxFOj.gif

[TheFrenzy]

If they've pulled a huge 1/1 card or some 6 figure card, it absolutely does not prove that this Fields redemption wasn't a scam. Totally different opportunity.

All that matters to scammers is the $$$ they've got at the end of the day. They don't care about the prestige of listing a 1/1. They'd rather steal and sell ten $1k cards than one $7k card.

[glen87]

Word on IG is that Plat has deleted some of their past break videos, as of this morning.

probably just reached their storage limit :coffee:

[TSonn]

For people up in the air about this

Just watch the first minute of the second video. Part 2

They’re is nothing to discus. He stole it. Plain and simple

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFApEK4UxFQ

Yep. If he was holding a box for a booklet then he'd say "Ok - we always set aside 1 or 2 boxes to ship a booklet - let me look in this one".

Instead, he hid the fact that he was holding a box and tried to play it off like it came out of the trash.

[KhalDrogo]

For people up in the air about this

Just watch the first minute of the second video. Part 2

They’re is nothing to discus. He stole it. Plain and simple

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFApEK4UxFQ
But he makes too much money and we are just haters.

[packman80]

Like the Backdoor takers this will blow over for Platinum they will keep scamming sorry mean breaking and probably be the next one to be given a big card to hit by the card companies

[Grid]

I personally think it would go a long way if D parted ways with G... It'd show that they really value their customers. Every issue that they've had stems from G... ripping cards, hiding cards, slamming cards, etc. When there is smoke, there is usually fire. If it were Austin that did this, he'd be gone in a second.

If they fired him, that is an admission of guilt. I actually think it would work against them if they did it.

[TDK39]

I was shocked how many of their loyal members were defending them during the live vid on youtube last night. WOW

[JeremyNick]

I think girls have regained consciousness at his apartment.

They probably still flinch every time someone says “boom”.

[blackbears86]

Word on IG is that Plat has deleted some of their past break videos, as of this morning.



Probably nothing shady at all in those videos:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[hche]

For people up in the air about this

Just watch the first minute of the second video. Part 2

They’re is nothing to discus. He stole it. Plain and simple

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DFApEK4UxFQ

That's the part that got me into believing he knew what he was doing.

I was shocked how many of their loyal members were defending them during the live vid on youtube last night. WOW

And their rebuttal makes zero sense. They all said Plat is big, they wont steal a small card, we all received the big hits that were shown, blah blah blah....... but how about the hits that weren't shown?

[cking]

You are who you associate with!


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I agree.

However, what does that say about all the people who still deal with PWCC?

[Onepocketj]

Probably nothing shady at all in those videos:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I have to imagine a few people archived them when this first came out.

[whoshotjr]

Instead, he hid the fact that he was holding a box and tried to play it off like it came out of the trash.


That's the worst part.

* Break stops because chat said a redemption was missed
* Instantly grabs the box set aside
* Yells at guy to bring the trash back
* Makes a huge show of the trash being brought back and wants the camera pointed at it
* Then with the camera moved, palms the box to hide it, and then moves back and obstructs the trash view which was previously a huge deal



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[Cheddar]

If they fired him, that is an admission of guilt. I actually think it would work against them if they did it.

It would be D believing that his brother-in-law was doing something shady...not that the whole operation is guilty (both of which I believe are true).

[mfisher27]

Ignorance or malice, take your pick. Neither are a good look.

[Bob Ross]

https://c.tenor.com/QTmlfDQY90QAAAAC/people-of-earth-blink-twice.gif

[lemongoat1134]

So the best case scenario is he threw away a $7,000 card lol

[TheFrenzy]

Let's see what level in the Narcissist's Prayer we reach before this is all over.

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

[boxbuster7]

The video of what he did was way too long/boring and inconclusive for my taste

I watched his apology video and dude has a point. All of the people trolling weren’t buying with them anyways.

In 2022 everyone has an opinion and voice and rushes to jump in and give their opinion because they can.

Knowing his/their history and the cards they have pulled along with what it takes to do even a fraction of the numbers they are doing, I doubt he purposely stole the card, but I’ll never know for sure, just like nobody else will know for sure that he did

Oh, and this is coming from a direct competitor, and one whom he has trolled in their YouTube chat in the past for no reason at all

This is one of the worst takes I've read on here in a long time.

Stealing the card aside, The guy is an unprofessional scumbag right off the bat.

[footfutbol]

So the best case scenario is he threw away a $7,000 card lol

This card is turning into Gob's suit in Arrested Devlopment. Next week it will be $25k card.

[TSonn]

This card is turning into Gob's suit in Arrested Devlopment. Next week it will be $25k card.

Chyeah right, the guy with the $500,000 breaker job is gonna stop a break to steal a $50,000 Fields shield - CMON

[Boo]

This is one of the worst takes I've read on here in a long time.

Stealing the card aside, The guy is an unprofessional scumbag right off the bat.

Apparently you haven't read his posts in the basketball forum.

[CableRock]

Okay I did my best to transcribe just a little bit of the video here. This is NOT related to the attempted stealing of the redemption, but I thought it was at the very least, EXTREMELY telling of something. If somebody treated me like this in public I'd walk right that second. This is supposed to be his employee I guess.


@7:35 Fat Guy walks in and says to the assistant dude:
"move, get the #@#@#@#@ out of the way. Take the garbage out. Damnit
Hey I need one more garbage too.

Then shortly thereafter.

@8:10
FG "Aus - Me, just so you know. Me, and um.. Jojo have been
talking"
Aus- "okay"
FG- "And I think that you're gonna be fired soon"
Aus- "Is that so?"
FG- "I'm dead serious"
Aus- "Really?"
FG- "Yes"
Aus- "Okay"
FG- "I'm not kidding you bro"
Aus- "I'm not either"


1 - this guys treats his employees like garbage. 2 - if he was not just hamming it up for the camera to throw suspicion off his hands, he did it in the most disrespectful way possible to an employee. If you need to have that conversation do it in private. ESPECIALLY do not do it in front of an audience.

[Siberian13]

Okay I did my best to transcribe just a little bit of the video here. This is NOT related to the attempted stealing of the redemption, but I thought it was at the very least, EXTREMELY telling of something. If somebody treated me like this in public I'd walk right that second. This is supposed to be his employee I guess.


@7:35 Fat Guy walks in and says to the assistant dude:
"move, get the #@#@#@#@ out of the way. Take the garbage out. Damnit
Hey I need one more garbage too.

Then shortly thereafter.

@8:10
FG "Aus - Me, just so you know. Me, and um.. Jojo have been
talking"
Aus- "okay"
FG- "And I think that you're gonna be fired soon"
Aus- "Is that so?"
FG- "I'm dead serious"
Aus- "Really?"
FG- "Yes"
Aus- "Okay"
FG- "I'm not kidding you bro"
Aus- "I'm not either"


1 - this guys treats his employees like garbage. 2 - if he was not just hamming it up for the camera to throw suspicion off his hands, he did it in the most disrespectful way possible to an employee. If you need to have that conversation do it in private. ESPECIALLY do not do it in front of an audience.

Wonder what the HR department looks like :)

[Grizzkid12]

Makes perfect sense that Grizzchild is a breaker.

I took a vow to do my best and stop personally attacking others on here, so i will let this one slide.

Along with the other useless responses and things like saying "the hobby will be better when people like me leave"

I think that statement time and time again when I see/hear certain people or influencers speak, but I also know in my heart of hearts I am the exact demographic I wish we had more of in this hobby.

I eat, sleep & breathe this hobby, but also don't take myself super seriously and do the things that I find off putting and make me cringe.

I don't think I've ever sent a card back that I purchased online whether it be because of a flaw I didn't see in pics (and I don't inspect pics like a double agent) or any other reason. I open what I can afford for myself because I still get joy out of opening packs like a kid. I probably sell about 1% of anything I pack pull and have never bought a single in my life with the intention of reselling it. I don't haggle on prices, I have pulled exactly zero scams in my life and go above and beyond to be honest and forthcoming with anyone I buy/sell from.

But yea, that's definitely the kind of collector we should hope leaves. Lets just continue letting the influencers take over, the greedy/seedy dealers do their thing and the sports card geeks that put together videos like this exposing scammers and trolling/blackballing/bullying them on all forms of social media. That definitely should put the hobby in a good place to grow.

[Grizzkid12]

Stealing a non-redemption card would be tough because it would be easy to see left in a pack/box - so I don't think they've had an opportunity to do this scam with a real card.

So then how many products have possible redemptions on the bottom of the box? Most redemptions in low to mid products are in the middle and in a pack, not a box. NT, Flawless, Immac, Noir, Opulence are the products that come to mind where a redemption could be and is typically on the bottom of the box.

Basically what I'm saying is that they haven't had endless opportunities - they can only do this scam with certain products. I don't want to watch any more of this sweaty dude yelling at me so hopefully others do the detective work to see if they've pulled it off in other breaks of NT, Immac, Flawless, Noir, etc.

If they've pulled a huge 1/1 card or some 6 figure card, it absolutely does not prove that this Fields redemption wasn't a scam. Totally different opportunity.

Completely valid. We will see if others pull up more of this stuff (I'm sure they are trying now). If he did steal that Fields I'm sure it's not the first time

[CableRock]

Wonder what the HR department looks like :)

An even fatter, louder guy.

[KhalDrogo]

I took a vow to do my best and stop personally attacking others on here, so i will let this one slide.

Along with the other useless responses and things like saying "the hobby will be better when people like me leave"

I think that statement time and time again when I see/hear certain people or influencers speak, but I also know in my heart of hearts I am the exact demographic I wish we had more of in this hobby.

I eat, sleep & breathe this hobby, but also don't take myself super seriously and do the things that I find off putting and make me cringe.

I don't think I've ever sent a card back that I purchased online whether it be because of a flaw I didn't see in pics (and I don't inspect pics like a double agent) or any other reason. I open what I can afford for myself because I still get joy out of opening packs like a kid. I probably sell about 1% of anything I pack pull and have never bought a single in my life with the intention of reselling it. I don't haggle on prices, I have pulled exactly zero scams in my life and go above and beyond to be honest and forthcoming with anyone I buy/sell from.

But yea, that's definitely the kind of collector we should hope leaves. Lets just continue letting the influencers take over, the greedy/seedy dealers do their thing and the sports card geeks that put together videos like this exposing scammers and trolling/blackballing/bullying them on all forms of social media. That definitely should put the hobby in a good place to grow.
Nobody asked for your sob story.

[Grid]

I suppose I disagree with this notion that the scam attempt was as cut and dry tossing aside the Justin Fields auto and hoping his stream didn't notice. Are boxes guaranteed autos? I legitimately don't know much about NT so I don't know how commonplace it would be to just tell your customers they got shorted an auto. Which is what he would've had to do if they hadn't noticed right? Unless he involved a swap in which case the value of the Fields became relevant. I agree it does not matter in the case of theft in principle. Totally understood there

If you don't know about NT, or maybe even breaks, then I really don't understand why you would disagree with anything anyone is saying.

NT, as many other higher end Panini brands, typically have the redemption at the bottom/top of the box. And they are mostly white, which blends in with the inside of the box itself. Making it an easier grift to pull off.

Opening and stacking all the cards from the case in one big pile, makes it much less obvious that a single card was missing.

If it was you, opening a case on your own, box by box, I am sure you would have noticed a missing hit.

In this case, it was a group break by team. So, your focus at the end of the break was if you hit anything, with your 1 in 32 chance. And not recounting all the possible hits there should have been. Which again, would make doing something like this easier to do.

[Grizzkid12]

And spoken like a direct competitor. When bad breakers get exposed, its bad for the brand of all breakers. The entire industry is built on trust. And if people start questioning breakers, that inherently is bad for you.

So I completely understand why you made this post.

With that said, why does it matter if someone has broken with them before? Those opinions somehow don't qualify? Shouldn't it be the other way around, and the loyalists or those with a direct interest in Platinum should have their opinions taken with a grain of salt?

After all, sports bring in refs, judges and umpires since you cant have the players decide what infractions happened. Those not involved directly in the game, should have the most just opinion I'd think.

Actually some good, constructive points above. I didn't think about it as being another black eye for the hobby/breakers, but I can see where it would come off that I am biased and that'a a fair conclusion to make.

The only thing I was getting at when I mentioned the someone who has never broken with them before part was that there is always a lot of chatter/chirping when something like this happens and everyone gives their opinion.

If I were them (assuming he is innocent and it was just a mistake) I would have to block out the noise and remind myself that these people aren't important. They're just here for the show and trying to jump on an online bully bandwagon where the majority of people talking didn't even know who he was a day ago and have never/ would never have never spent a dollar with him

If he is guilty, he does deserve to be exposed, but I think there is far too much guilty until proven innocent in this hobby currently and there are a ton of "hobbyists" on social media who all feel the need to pile on when they smell blood in the water.

[heatdawg]

The saddest part to this story is that I am not shocked at all. I would not be surprised if 20-30% of breakers rip off their customers.

[KhalDrogo]

If you don't know about NT, or maybe even breaks, then I really don't understand why you would disagree with anything anyone is saying.

NT, as many other higher end Panini brands, typically have the redemption at the bottom/top of the box. And they are mostly white, which blends in with the inside of the box itself. Making it an easier grift to pull off.

Opening and stacking all the cards from the case in one big pile, makes it much less obvious that a single card was missing.

If it was you, opening a case on your own, box by box, I am sure you would have noticed a missing hit.

In this case, it was a group break by team. So, your focus at the end of the break was if you hit anything, with your 1 in 32 chance. And not recounting all the possible hits there should have been. Which again, would make doing something like this easier to do.
Exactly. And Plat is very sloppy with their breaks because they have no incentive to do it the right way. People line up left and right to piss away money with them no matter what they get exposed for.

[CanadianKid]

That's the worst part.

* Break stops because chat said a redemption was missed
* Instantly grabs the box set aside
* Yells at guy to bring the trash back
* Makes a huge show of the trash being brought back and wants the camera pointed at it
* Then with the camera moved, palms the box to hide it, and then moves back and obstructs the trash view which was previously a huge deal



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[Grizzkid12]

Nobody asked for your sob story.

There were a lot of comments based on my post somewhat defending him so I decided to explain where my head was at to the majority of them and what some had said about "collectors like me"

I appreciate your feedback though

(I'm trying very hard TSonn)

[Cheddar]

Okay I did my best to transcribe just a little bit of the video here. This is NOT related to the attempted stealing of the redemption, but I thought it was at the very least, EXTREMELY telling of something. If somebody treated me like this in public I'd walk right that second. This is supposed to be his employee I guess.


@7:35 Fat Guy walks in and says to the assistant dude:
"move, get the #@#@#@#@ out of the way. Take the garbage out. Damnit
Hey I need one more garbage too.

Then shortly thereafter.

@8:10
FG "Aus - Me, just so you know. Me, and um.. Jojo have been
talking"
Aus- "okay"
FG- "And I think that you're gonna be fired soon"
Aus- "Is that so?"
FG- "I'm dead serious"
Aus- "Really?"
FG- "Yes"
Aus- "Okay"
FG- "I'm not kidding you bro"
Aus- "I'm not either"


1 - this guys treats his employees like garbage. 2 - if he was not just hamming it up for the camera to throw suspicion off his hands, he did it in the most disrespectful way possible to an employee. If you need to have that conversation do it in private. ESPECIALLY do not do it in front of an audience.

It's sort of their "schtick"... Austin gets "fired" by G about 3-4 times a week. It's pretty lame, because I'd much rather break with Austin than G.

I've given the whole thing some thought, and asked myself what I would do in the instance if I had genuinely made a mistake of leaving a card in a box of NT and was called out on camera. I personally would be so embarrassed by the situation and feel incredibly bad that I almost lost someone's card in $20k case break. Aside from an immediate apology for being reckless, I'd probably offer something to guy that almost got screwed... It'd certainly be an eye-opener that I need to slow down and be much more careful with what I'm doing.

His reaction of "I throw cards away all the time! No big deal!" as he continues to thrash around breaks really irritates me.

[Boo]

It's sort of their "schtick"... Austin gets "fired" by G about 3-4 times a week. It's pretty lame, because I'd much rather break with Austin than G.

I've given the whole thing some thought, and asked myself what I would do in the instance if I had genuinely made a mistake of leaving a card in a box of NT and was called out on camera. I personally would be so embarrassed by the situation and feel incredibly bad that I almost lost someone's card in $20k case break. Aside from an immediate apology for being reckless, I'd probably offer something to guy that almost got screwed... It'd certainly be an eye-opener that I need to slow down and be much more careful with what I'm doing.

His reaction of "I throw cards away all the time! No big deal!" as he continues to thrash around breaks really irritates me.

It wasn't a "mistake" though. :doh::doh::doh:

[CableRock]

It's sort of their "schtick"... Austin gets "fired" by G about 3-4 times a week. It's pretty lame, because I'd much rather break with Austin than G.

I've given the whole thing some thought, and asked myself what I would do in the instance if I had genuinely made a mistake of leaving a card in a box of NT and was called out on camera. I personally would be so embarrassed by the situation and feel incredibly bad that I almost lost someone's card in $20k case break. Aside from an immediate apology for being reckless, I'd probably offer something to guy that almost got screwed... It'd certainly be an eye-opener that I need to slow down and be much more careful with what I'm doing.

His reaction of "I throw cards away all the time! No big deal!" as he continues to thrash around breaks really irritates me.

I've never watched them before so when I watched this video it just kinda rubbed me the wrong way. I guess just being a douche attracts a certain type of people. Not surprising.

EDIT: But I completely agree. I'd be extremely embarrassed and apologetic if I did something like that. I'd have even offered something to the guy who called it out on stream too.

[Grid]

But yea, that's definitely the kind of collector we should hope leaves. Lets just continue letting the influencers take over, the greedy/seedy dealers do their thing and the sports card geeks that put together videos like this exposing scammers and trolling/blackballing/bullying them on all forms of social media. That definitely should put the hobby in a good place to grow.

Again? Comeon Grizz. OP is a Geek, because he put together a scammer video to draw light to what they saw?

It should just be ignored, so the hobby can continue to grow?

Grow it might, but giving a pass to scammers just so that can happen, isn't the growth most are hoping for. It is just allowing more scammers in, and the scammers that are already here, will get a free pass.

You cant honestly believe the stuff you are writing, can you?

[CableRock]

It wasn't a "mistake" though. :doh::doh::doh:

That's the point. He acted extremely suspiciously, unlike what a normal person would after such a huge "blunder".

[blackbears86]

It wasn't a "mistake" though. :doh::doh::doh:




NO WAY what he did was a "mistake" it was theft.

[SmokeyJ]

Ah...the same guy that cut the card up years ago. Makes complete sense.

Whenever a response video talks about the "haterz", it's basically a complete admission of guilt. That's the go to move.

Also, it's weird for a breaker to say "I love you all to death." Do people really believe that breakers personally care about them outside of the $$?

[CableRock]

Ah...the same guy that cut the card up years ago. Makes complete sense.

Whenever a response video talks about the "haterz", it's basically a complete admission of guilt. That's the go to move.

link?

[SmokeyJ]

link?

To the card cutting? Someone claimed he damaged the cards by how he put them in a one touch (clamped on the edges). He got the card back (by purchasing it) and then this.

https://twitter.com/CardsChop/status/1212009671839629312

[Miz]

I've got 50 bucks on Grizz in a Grizz vs Khal Drogo bare knuckle brawl

[49ersSF]

It's sort of their "schtick"... Austin gets "fired" by G about 3-4 times a week. It's pretty lame, because I'd much rather break with Austin than G.

I've given the whole thing some thought, and asked myself what I would do in the instance if I had genuinely made a mistake of leaving a card in a box of NT and was called out on camera. I personally would be so embarrassed by the situation and feel incredibly bad that I almost lost someone's card in $20k case break. Aside from an immediate apology for being reckless, I'd probably offer something to guy that almost got screwed... It'd certainly be an eye-opener that I need to slow down and be much more careful with what I'm doing.

His reaction of "I throw cards away all the time! No big deal!" as he continues to thrash around breaks really irritates me.

Agreed. There are people spending tens of thousands of dollars each break and doing so with the confidence that the breakers are honest, careful, and on the up and up. People point out the schtick and I have never had a problem with any of their schtick. It's entertainment such as G fake firing Austin for years. I have zero problem with that.

The actual problem with his comment is that when he is tossing out comments about his previous actions that were beyond reckless to justify in an attempt to cover up his actions caught on the video. It's as if he is pouring gasoline while trying to put out the fire. Now you leave your entire client base questioning everything Platinum Breaks has done in the past by bringing up the past and previous cards and boxes you have "accidentally" tossed. Of course, they should already be questioning this given the slight of hand attempt caught red handed on video which is the primary issue at hand.

[boxbuster7]

I've got 50 bucks on Grizz in a Grizz vs Khal Drogo bare knuckle brawl

I'd pay $50 just to see that

[Miz]

I'd pay $50 just to see that

I'd put 50 on Grizz because he'd be the dog.

[KhalDrogo]

We’ll use the proceeds to break wax with Plat and Backdoor Breakers. Think of it as charity toward those in need.

[CableRock]

Agreed. There are people spending tens of thousands of dollars each break and doing so with the confidence that the breakers are honest, careful, and on the up and up. People point out the schtick and I have never had a problem with any of their schtick. It's entertainment such as G fake firing Austin for years. I have zero problem with that.



Like I said I haven't watched them before so I had no idea that was a thing. It seemed super disrespectful and off putting to me out of context. Still not a fan of it but I'd let that slide if there weren't 1000 more red flags.

[SupermanBrandon]

I’ve got my collection on Khals. I’ve seen him in person.


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[sethc1020]

I wonder if "G" met up in the parking lot with someone named "E" and sold them the redemption

OMG, the Matrix is real!

[koneil]

If you don't know about NT, or maybe even breaks, then I really don't understand why you would disagree with anything anyone is saying.

NT, as many other higher end Panini brands, typically have the redemption at the bottom/top of the box. And they are mostly white, which blends in with the inside of the box itself. Making it an easier grift to pull off.

Opening and stacking all the cards from the case in one big pile, makes it much less obvious that a single card was missing.

If it was you, opening a case on your own, box by box, I am sure you would have noticed a missing hit.

In this case, it was a group break by team. So, your focus at the end of the break was if you hit anything, with your 1 in 32 chance. And not recounting all the possible hits there should have been. Which again, would make doing something like this easier to do.
So far the only example we have of his customers attention to detail is OP who made a 20 minute video dissecting every move the guy made. But yes of course, we should still safely assume all of these high value spot owners are asleep at the wheel and wouldn't notice a missing auto from a product who's value is entirely dependent on said autos

[Grid]

The only thing I was getting at when I mentioned the someone who has never broken with them before part was that there is always a lot of chatter/chirping when something like this happens and everyone gives their opinion.

If I were them (assuming he is innocent and it was just a mistake) I would have to block out the noise and remind myself that these people aren't important. They're just here for the show and trying to jump on an online bully bandwagon where the majority of people talking didn't even know who he was a day ago and have never/ would never have never spent a dollar with him

If he is guilty, he does deserve to be exposed, but I think there is far too much guilty until proven innocent in this hobby currently and there are a ton of "hobbyists" on social media who all feel the need to pile on when they smell blood in the water.

Twice now you are referring to a call out as bullying. This is all we have. Innocent until proven guilty works in a court of law. Very rarely do hobby scams make it that far.

What we have, is each other. Its sharing a list of names from ebay scammers, once we ourselves have been scammed. Its posting PBM ID's in threads, to keep others from getting conned.

You call it "chirping" I call it warning. Is it always 100% fair? No. But others have bounced into call it threads before, and flipped the script on those doing the calling when the "facts" didn't add up.

The hobby has social media, public forums and word of mouth to others when things like this happen. It may not be perfect, but it is what we have. If Platinum didn't do anything wrong, then none of this would hurt them.

But it sure seems like a stream on endless rants from them, downplaying the situation by attacking the player, and the value of the redemption and just otherwise showing who they are in response.

[Grid]

So far the only example we have of his customers attention to detail is OP who made a 20 minute video dissecting every move the guy made. But yes of course, we should still safely assume all of these high value spot owners are asleep at the wheel and wouldn't notice a missing auto from a product who's value is entirely dependent on said autos

What? Obviously people were not asleep at the wheel, and that is why this got called out. I truly dont understand your rant.

They got called out during the scam. Someone who was breaking with them, saw what happened. And said so during the stream. That is what lead to the entire chain of events. From the hiding box to the left, to the fake garbage dive, to the endless excuses from them on how/why it happened.

OP made the video. And the video happened because someone caught them in the act.

I didn't tell you it was a good scam. I explained how a scam like this works. Google "Brandon Cooks 99" which is probably the most famous breaker stealing a card scam out there.

[KhalDrogo]

What would Del’s dad do to him?

[49erRCCollector]

This situation and some of the posts here make me tired.

A crazy old wizard once said "you will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly upon our point of view"

Of course he said this to take the heat off of him for not telling Luke that (40 year old spoiler alert) Darth was Luke's dad.

[halldogg]

OP made the video.

OP did not make the video.

[Siberian13]

I've got 50 bucks on Grizz in a Grizz vs Khal Drogo bare knuckle brawl

Blowout battle Royal!


https://c.tenor.com/a6iX72cSrxgAAAAd/dog-fight.gif

[kyle1707]

To the card cutting? Someone claimed he damaged the cards by how he put them in a one touch (clamped on the edges). He got the card back (by purchasing it) and then this.

https://twitter.com/CardsChop/status/1212009671839629312

I can’t believe people let this POS break for them