I don't get super-high inflated IG card prices

[gomiamigo]

We see it on eBay but I really don't get if you're selling a card that just sold for $5k and asking $12k [identical grade, non-auto] when the only people that would be interested at $5-6k are gonna be PC guys of this player.

Like, we all know what the market is and if we don't you can just look at the last sale a few weeks back. It's not like anything has changed in the offseason.

I'm even willing to pay a few dollars over last auction to get a deal done but when you ask for 120% premium....who do you think will buy it? You don't even get the 'eBay flex' out of it being listed at the top of your page.

It just ensures I will never make you offers for cards you want to sell. It makes you look like a shyster or an imbecile.

And the # of people who want this card is like....25 of us? 35? But zero at your price. No speculators would ever come near it.

Enjoy your weekend,

[jcardstore]

Why you gotta sneak diss? Just call them out directly :cry:

[mindcycle]

Yeah i’ve experienced it on there for sure. I remember for awhile a lot of the high dollar spenders were talking about how they’ll pay up, or overpay, for “grails”. Then you’d see those same cards listed with auction houses a few months later.

It’s all so predictable for us who’ve been around for awhile but they must have fooled a fair number of newbies I guess. IG certainly isn’t BO where you’d get called out pretty quicky. Those who call out stuff there are just being negative.. :cry:

I still see these guys overpriced grails pop up from time to time trying to be moved directly on IG or the Goldin/PWCC/etc auctions being posted endlessly in story posts.

[Blazed]

We see it on eBay but I really don't get if you're selling a card that just sold for $5k and asking $12k [identical grade, non-auto] when the only people that would be interested at $5-6k are gonna be PC guys of this player.

Like, we all know what the market is and if we don't you can just look at the last sale a few weeks back. It's not like anything has changed in the offseason.

I'm even willing to pay a few dollars over last auction to get a deal done but when you ask for 120% premium....who do you think will buy it? You don't even get the 'eBay flex' out of it being listed at the top of your page.

It just ensures I will never make you offers for cards you want to sell. It makes you look like a shyster or an imbecile.

And the # of people who want this card is like....25 of us? 35? But zero at your price. No speculators would ever come near it.

Enjoy your weekend,

Do you know how many cards I've bought off eBay and then flipped for 100% - 3,000%+ the same day I got it in the mail and listed it on eBay? It all depends on the card.

The sold price on eBay just shows you who was able to be on their phone/computer when the auction ended.

Ebay auctions of rare cards are a flippers paradise.

[prospectorgems]

Do you know how many cards I've bought off eBay and then flipped for 100% - 3,000%+ the same day I got it in the mail and listed it on eBay? It all depends on the card.

The sold price on eBay just shows you who was able to be on their phone/computer when the auction ended.

Ebay auctions of rare cards are a flippers paradise.

I was going to say something similar, just because an auction (either BIN/actual auction) doesn't mean that's the market value. Now if there are many of this same card and they all sell around the same price point and someone has the price jacked up, way different. Not everyone is watching ebay at the same time and happen to miss out on cards. I know I have missed out on quite a few that sold well under what they should have.

[threepointplay]

The sold price on eBay just shows you who was able to be on their phone/computer when the auction ended.



Errr...it is not as though cheap online snipe tools have been around for over a decade. Enter max bid into snipe tool at your leisure and then go about your daily business.

[Kobe101]

It is very amusing.

The other day I saw a card priced at $50K OBO. He even mentioned the last comp was $35K. The bold auto on his was apparently worth $15K.

I also enjoy the ones who make a huge show of going to buy a grail card and at the bottom of their long post note how it is available. At a 200% mark up of course. The card being bought and flown around the world some how increases the value.

[gomiamigo]

I wasn't talking about eBay *sales* the card that just auctioned wasn't on eBay.

We all know you can get an occasional deal on eBay and flip it, thanks. The eBay reference was people with a 10k card who list it at $99k so if you sort by price it's at the top of the page. Stupid, but plenty of people do it.

With a personal IG page there's no such concept of 'top of the eBay page.'

[gomiamigo]

It is very amusing.

The other day I saw a card priced at $50K OBO. He even mentioned the last comp was $35K. The bold auto on his was apparently worth $15K.

I also enjoy the ones who make a huge show of going to buy a grail card and at the bottom of their long post note how it is available. At a 200% mark up of course. The card being bought and flown around the world some how increases the value.

Exactly. You get it.

'Last sale $20k but my price in same grade a week later.....$44k! Come and buy it!!!!'

[gomiamigo]

Why you gotta sneak diss? Just call them out directly :cry:

Dissing the concept more than any one person. It's not like they're the only guy who does this.

It's really stupid and turns off many potential buyers. As I said, I'd happily pay a few bucks over market to do a deal for a card I want. :coffee:

Just ensures I'll buy the card elsewhere when I get to it. Probably at a lower price given this card market....

In fact, for the price asked I could get the same card 1.5-2 grades higher.

[Blazed]

Exactly. You get it.

'Last sale $20k but my price in same grade a week later.....$44k! Come and buy it!!!!'

Like I said, it depends on the card, you keep missing that part. You never stated what card, but clearly high-end, doesn't matter where the last sale price came from. If it's rare or desirable enough someone will gladly pay $5k-$20k over last weeks sold price.

Like I tell people who message me on eBay with "well the last one sold for $x". My reply, "then you should have bought that one."

[AbraCalabro]

Exactly. You get it.

'Last sale $20k but my price in same grade a week later.....$44k! Come and buy it!!!!'

same breed as scalpers are when new video game consoles come out, or shortages of toilet paper come around.

[gomiamigo]

If it's rare or desirable enough someone will gladly pay $5k-$20k over last weeks sold price.

Motte and Bailey fallacy/doctrine.

[GOATcards]

"Originally Posted by Blazed View Post
If it's rare or desirable enough someone will gladly pay $5k-$20k over last weeks sold price."

Motte and Bailey fallacy/doctrine.

huh? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy)

maybe this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect) is more applicable here

[SoccerRCs]

Like I said, it depends on the card, you keep missing that part. You never stated what card, but clearly high-end, doesn't matter where the last sale price came from. If it's rare or desirable enough someone will gladly pay $5k-$20k over last weeks sold price.

Like I tell people who message me on eBay with "well the last one sold for $x". My reply, "then you should have bought that one."

Completely agree with this. I just bought a Barry Bonds grail card that hasn’t hit the market in over 20 years. I have no plans to list for years, if ever, but I can promise you if I did it would go up for 8-10x the price I paid. I like it too much and will never let it go unless I get a handsome sum. Same goes for basically any other investment worthy cards. No problem listing them at multiples higher than the last purchase. Comps are meaningless on high end investment worthy stuff especially as the market has been waking up to the fact that the investment grade strata is very thin. Which is why I’m not waiting as investment worthy material falls. Because when this is over you will start to see investment worthy material at 2x-3x the previous purchase. Their will be a scramble to get in quality stuff once we trough. Not saying that moment is imminent but that is what will happen when it ends.

[gomiamigo]

Oooh, got offered a nice one at 200-300% premium to recent comps at same grade in this declining market!

I guess all these people who can supposedly sell at $5-25k more than last sold price....really can't.

[AbraCalabro]

Oooh, got offered a nice one at 200-300% premium to recent comps at same grade in this declining market!

I guess all these people who can supposedly sell at $5-25k more than last sold price....really can't.

love it lmao

let the whole thing burn

[GOATcards]

Oooh, got offered a nice one at 200-300% premium to recent comps at same grade in this declining market!

I guess all these people who can supposedly sell at $5-25k more than last sold price....really can't.

fallacy of begging the antecedent

[Starman101]

Yeah i’ve experienced it on there for sure. I remember for awhile a lot of the high dollar spenders were talking about how they’ll pay up, or overpay, for “grails”. Then you’d see those same cards listed with auction houses a few months later.

It’s all so predictable for us who’ve been around for awhile but they must have fooled a fair number of newbies I guess. IG certainly isn’t BO where you’d get called out pretty quicky. Those who call out stuff there are just being negative.. :cry:

I still see these guys overpriced grails pop up from time to time trying to be moved directly on IG or the Goldin/PWCC/etc auctions being posted endlessly in story posts.

Yep

Spot on post right here

The Good Ol' Boys Circle Jerk Auctions Buyers Club :)!

[Kobe101]

Completely agree with this. I just bought a Barry Bonds grail card that hasn’t hit the market in over 20 years. I have no plans to list for years, if ever, but I can promise you if I did it would go up for 8-10x the price I paid. I like it too much and will never let it go unless I get a handsome sum. Same goes for basically any other investment worthy cards. No problem listing them at multiples higher than the last purchase. Comps are meaningless on high end investment worthy stuff especially as the market has been waking up to the fact that the investment grade strata is very thin. Which is why I’m not waiting as investment worthy material falls. Because when this is over you will start to see investment worthy material at 2x-3x the previous purchase. Their will be a scramble to get in quality stuff once we trough. Not saying that moment is imminent but that is what will happen when it ends.


Is your name Andrew?

[nbahobbyaddict]

Like I said, it depends on the card, you keep missing that part. You never stated what card, but clearly high-end, doesn't matter where the last sale price came from. If it's rare or desirable enough someone will gladly pay $5k-$20k over last weeks sold.

Yeah this happens all the time.

[gomiamigo]

I love how people keep comparing cards that haven't been seen in '20 years' to cards that come up every couple of months in the most widely watched auctions going.

It's almost like they're totally different things. Maroons.

[tjforce]

I love how people keep comparing cards that haven't been seen in '20 years' to cards that come up every couple of months in the most widely watched auctions going.

It's almost like they're totally different things. Maroons.

I think people are just pointing out nuances. No need to insult them.

Another nuance I experience: As someone who doesn't really sell much on IG, just shows off collection, I get asked from time to time what my price is on some big time PC items. I tell the person that I'm not interested in selling, but a few times they persist that I give them a number (thinking I don't know the value of my card?). I've thrown out an insane number, because again, I don't want to sell the card, and the usual reaction is that they get offended because the price is so far above what would be the fair market. But that's my point. I don't want to get rid of the card.

[rhigh2390]

I think people are just pointing out nuances. No need to insult them.

Another nuance I experience: As someone who doesn't really sell much on IG, just shows off collection, I get asked from time to time what my price is on some big time PC items. I tell the person that I'm not interested in selling, but a few times they persist that I give them a number (thinking I don't know the value of my card?). I've thrown out an insane number, because again, I don't want to sell the card, and the usual reaction is that they get offended because the price is so far above what would be the fair market. But that's my point. I don't want to get rid of the card.

Lol I've had this happen a bit too.

[Spacemanspif]

I think people are just pointing out nuances. No need to insult them.

Another nuance I experience: As someone who doesn't really sell much on IG, just shows off collection, I get asked from time to time what my price is on some big time PC items. I tell the person that I'm not interested in selling, but a few times they persist that I give them a number (thinking I don't know the value of my card?). I've thrown out an insane number, because again, I don't want to sell the card, and the usual reaction is that they get offended because the price is so far above what would be the fair market. But that's my point. I don't want to get rid of the card.


The amount of people that go around looking to cherry pick prices on cards that they like (and yet didn't bid on) is out of control. The endless stream of "how much?" and "lowest?" messages I ignore on Ebay and IG every week needs it's own spam folder. And yeah it's funny watching some of them get salty when I give them a price that's not 10% under the lowest auction. Goes double for the cards I'm not selling, or asking me about a specific card when the entire post was about how long it took me to complete the set

[rhigh2390]

The amount of people that go around looking to cherry pick prices on cards that they like (and yet didn't bid on) is out of control. The endless stream of "how much?" and "lowest?" messages I ignore on Ebay and IG every week needs it's own spam folder. And yeah it's funny watching some of them get salty when I give them a price that's not 10% under the lowest auction.

I love when people give me the old "what are comps?" on a card that is 20 years old and /25 or /50 lol

I miss the days when if you saw a card you wanted, you made an offer based on how much you wanted it.

[gomiamigo]

nu·ance
/ˈn(y)o͞oˌäns/
noun
a subtle difference in or shade of meaning, expression, or sound."

20 years vs a few weeks/months is not 'nuance.'

[gomiamigo]

I miss the days when if you saw a card you wanted, you made an offer based on how much you wanted it.

Yep, they first offered it to me at 4x comps, I bid current market - not market minus - and there it ended. I didn't bid on a card NFS.

Well, not quite, they kept agitating for me to bid more, lmao. I would have bid 10% over, but as they showed no inclination to drop price, I ended it there.


If they can swindle some dumb, ignorant rube into paying a 300% premium, more power to them! I am extremely confident they will be unable to do so. Just as they were unable to do so at the NSCC. ;)

[jova888]

Do you know how many cards I've bought off eBay and then flipped for 100% - 3,000%+ the same day I got it in the mail and listed it on eBay? It all depends on the card.

The sold price on eBay just shows you who was able to be on their phone/computer when the auction ended.

Ebay auctions of rare cards are a flippers paradise.

I'll be sure to stay clear of your auctions..

[gomiamigo]

Credit where due to the guy who is trying to flip a Goldin purchase for only 40% over comps. No, seriously, that's how you do it. Can probably rake somebody into to paying 15-20% more.

[Ericc5Bears]

Credit where due to the guy who is trying to flip a Goldin purchase for only 40% over comps. No, seriously, that's how you do it. Can probably rake somebody into to paying 15-20% more.

It's actually hilarious that this somehow works. I follow 1-2 guys on Instagram who don't even try to hide it, they'll make a story post that says "auction wins tonight, all for sale" with 4-5 cards they won at Goldin/PWCC/Whatever. Then 1-2 hours later, they'll post a story of each of the cards individually with an asking price of 40-100% higher than what they paid on auction LITERALLY LESS THAN 90 MINUTES AGO.

It seems so absurd that I can't possibly understand how it's successful, but they do it for every weekly auction and I see a good amount of "sold" posts so clearly it's working to some degree. I just will never understand how a buyer could rationalize paying a 40+% markup on a card they could've won on auction for significantly less the same day, especially in a falling market.

[jstephens24]

alot of people dont go to other auction sites besides ebay. I can see the rarer stuff get posted for more, iv only just recently been going to pwcc

[gomiamigo]

Got a great new one. IG Guy has card way over market 13-14k.

Card sells at auction for 7.5k, only went over 5k because I got into a bidding war with the winner [we were only bidders left.]

IG raises his price to 17.5k. LMAOOOOOOO.

[AbraCalabro]

Got a great new one. IG Guy has card way over market 13-14k.

Card sells at auction for 7.5k, only went over 5k because I got into a bidding war with the winner [we were only bidders left.]

IG raises his price to 17.5k. LMAOOOOOOO.

lmao, freaking goofballs man, I swear

you should see COMC and eBay as well, everything overpriced like they're sitting on the non-cursed version of the Hope Diamond.

[Blazed]

Got a great new one. IG Guy has card way over market 13-14k.

Card sells at auction for 7.5k, only went over 5k because I got into a bidding war with the winner [we were only bidders left.]

IG raises his price to 17.5k. LMAOOOOOOO.

I bet you're also a member of the red pill community too.

Who cares what people do with their cards? I've never understood grown adults crying and whining about other grown adults?

People use to laugh at people who listed their PMG's for $300... you see where PMG's are now, right? Think long term McFly.

[JumpshotMcGavin]

Not IG but eBay... I collect Ray Allen Topps Chrome Refractors and just saw a seller list a rayray Superfractor for $49,500... LOL...

The seller then had the balls to send out an offer to me for $48,510... 2% discount from his list price...

[mindcycle]

People use to laugh at people who listed their PMG's for $300... you see where PMG's are now, right? Think long term McFly.

I highly doubt scrub PMGs will be 2k + for much longer. That pump can’t last forever, and that’s the only reason they reached that price in the first place.

[AbraCalabro]

I bet you're also a member of the red pill community too.

Who cares what people do with their cards? I've never understood grown adults crying and whining about other grown adults?

People use to laugh at people who listed their PMG's for $300... you see where PMG's are now, right? Think long term McFly.

Who cares if people share their opinions? I've never understood grown adults crying and whining about other grown adults?

[Blazed]

Who cares if people share their opinions? I've never understood grown adults crying and whining about other grown adults?

I won't drop any names, but I'm pretty sure there was an "Amigo" on the forum doing a little pumping him self. I seem to remember gold/silver prizms... I also remember a Lebron James.

So I hope the pot met the kettle.

[Blazed]

I highly doubt scrub PMGs will be 2k + for much longer. That pump can’t last forever, and that’s the only reason they reached that price in the first place.

Why do people get upset when prices go up? I noticed your signature says you collect "Rare 90's/00's"... why rare 90's? Could it be because they hold value and have a higher potential to increase over time?

[mindcycle]

Why do people get upset when prices go up? I noticed your signature says you collect "Rare 90's/00's"... why rare 90's? Could it be because they hold value and have a higher potential to increase over time?

Not sure where I said I was upset about prices going up.. I do, however, believe there is a social media pump of PMGs happening atm that I don't feel will last. Whether it was intentional or not.

I collect rare 90's because it's the time period I was most into collecting as a kid and it's a fun chase. I'm not concerned with what they are worth or if they will hold value. Seeing people pay 2K+ for a Matt Maloney red PMG is pretty humorous if nothing else. GL I guess..

[gomiamigo]

I won't drop any names, but I'm pretty sure there was an "Amigo" on the forum doing a little pumping him self. I seem to remember gold/silver prizms... I also remember a Lebron James.

So I hope the pot met the kettle.

Not me I hate Lebron, and I don't pump since I'd rather buy up all my cards cheap.

I await your apology. :)!


[and you post on average, once a month and you came in here butthurt because I'm mocking guys with stupid prices? Hooookay.]

[gomiamigo]

Happened again today, guy msgs & offers me, outta the blue, a gold prizm of a star player that is valued in the $750 range for psa 10. Many, many, many auctions have determined the price.

I ask how much he says 1500 for the psa 10 and 1300 for the psa 9.
Hard pass, bro.

Guess they really are just trying to swindle anyone and everyone on the internet.

[98pmgs]

Who cares if people share their opinions? I've never understood grown adults crying and whining about other grown adults?

Lmao, you're literally the captain of the crying and whining team.

Show us more useless screen shots that you've saved up over the years please.
BTW, the MJ PMG Red 500K+ was paid for. Screen shot that baby!!!

[AbraCalabro]

Lmao, you're literally the captain of the crying and whining team.

Show us more useless screen shots that you've saved up over the years please.
BTW, the MJ PMG Red 500K+ was paid for. Screen shot that baby!!!

What's your previous account name(s)? I really got under your skin.

EDIT: LOL @ the avatar, a crying troll? Because of my old avatar?


What's your previous account name(s)?

[Blazed]

Not me I hate Lebron, and I don't pump since I'd rather buy up all my cards cheap.

I await your apology. :)!

Actually you did a little over 2 years ago right when prizm golds started to take off.


[and you post on average, once a month and you came in here butthurt because I'm mocking guys with stupid prices? Hooookay.]

Not butthurt at all. Just tired of seeing people complain only to see the complaint isn't directed at the real problem. So to prove that point why don't you name drop who you're mocking for having high prices? I guarantee it won't be any well known members aka, "big players" in the hobby ;)

Another good example was at the national this year. What booth had the highest of the highest when it comes to prices who are also well known members in the collecting world? Not one person blasted them for their prices. In fact it was the exact opposite. But kids and adults/dealers who weren't as well known were put on blast.... some were even blasted on camera... why is that?

If you want to complain (sneak dissing and not naming names is pretty weak as it is), but start at the top where the real problem is.

[mc1]

What's your previous account name(s)? I really got under your skin.

EDIT: LOL @ the avatar, a crying troll? Because of my old avatar?


What's your previous account name(s)?

https://c.tenor.com/74lPb8mSRQMAAAAM/abe-simpson-abe-simpson-cloud.gif

[Ericc5Bears]

I bet you're also a member of the red pill community too.

Who cares what people do with their cards? I've never understood grown adults crying and whining about other grown adults?

People use to laugh at people who listed their PMG's for $300... you see where PMG's are now, right? Think long term McFly.

And for every person who listed their "PMGs for $300" there's someone who listed their PSA 10 chrome Lebron rookie for 50k when they were going for 40 and now, a year later, would be lucky to get 8k for it.

[98pmgs]

What's your previous account name(s)? I really got under your skin.

EDIT: LOL @ the avatar, a crying troll? Because of my old avatar?


What's your previous account name(s)?

deeeeznuts.
you think you're cool just cause you've been in the hobby longer?

honestly, i come here just to clown on you most of the time. you've been around the hobby longer then most here and you've got less than most to show for it. it's quite amusing.
your saltiness and thirst for drama is top notch.

i'm glad you quit games and sold your game boy advance though! finally ready to move on from the kiddie table.

[Blazed]

And for every person who listed their "PMGs for $300" there's someone who listed their PSA 10 chrome Lebron rookie for 50k when they were going for 40 and now, a year later, would be lucky to get 8k for it.

What world do you live in where you're going to compare a PMG to a Lebron James base rookie card?

The Lebron was a pump and dump, I could see that coming from a mile away. Pump and dumps are so easy to do in this hobby if you get the right person to pump the first one, the minions who want to be "cool" and part of the "in crowd" will follow.

I will also admit that I cashed in on the base card frenzy and I don't feel bad at all for the people left holding the bag.

Cards are just like the stock market, watch what's getting bought in the dark pool and get ready to pump it to the moon. Then you wait for the pump so you can dump, wash and repeat.

[AbraCalabro]

https://c.tenor.com/74lPb8mSRQMAAAAM/abe-simpson-abe-simpson-cloud.gif

lmao that's not even appropriate for what I posted

deeeeznuts.
you think you're cool just cause you've been in the hobby longer?

honestly, i come here just to clown on you most of the time. you've been around the hobby longer then most here and you've got less than most to show for it. it's quite amusing.
your saltiness and thirst for drama is top notch.

i'm glad you quit games and sold your game boy advance though! finally ready to move on from the kiddie table.

Your response is all over the place. You're desperate.


Show us some of your collection. What is your previous account name(s)?


P.S. I still have my GBA. Try again, or no more quarters left?

[k13]

Pmg's are a pump and dump just manipulated in a different way.
You still need sheep for it.

Look at other sports.
Sheep still pay thousands for base raw paper but pmgs are cheap.

[mindcycle]

Cards are just like the stock market, watch what's getting bought in the dark pool and get ready to pump it to the moon. Then you wait for the pump so you can dump, wash and repeat.

Great advice here for ensuring future growth of the hobby. Pat yourself on the back, you cracked the code.:)!

[mindcycle]

Show us some of your collection. What is your previous account name(s)?

Still waiting for this as well.. :cry:

[Blazed]

Great advice here for ensuring future growth of the hobby. Pat yourself on the back, you cracked the code.:)!

This you? ⬇️

I'm not concerned with what they are worth or if they will hold value.

I think that's called an oxymoron. So which is it? Do you care about the value and future worth or are you collecting for "fun" and could care less if they go to $0? I would think the number of collectors would out number the investors... so where's the disconnect?

[mindcycle]

This you? ⬇️



I think that's called an oxymoron. So which is it? Do you care about the value and future worth or are you collecting for "fun" and could care less if they go to $0? I would think the number of collectors would out number the investors... so where's the disconnect?

Valiant effort, but talking about future growth of the hobby doesn't go hand in hand with card values. We still call it a "hobby" right? I know it's hard concept to grasp but some of us do still collect for fun.

[Blazed]

Valiant effort, but talking about future growth of the hobby doesn't go hand in hand with card values. We still call it a "hobby" right? I know it's hard concept to grasp but some of us do still collect for fun.

Actually it does go hand in hand. How do you get new people into the hobby? By showing that your "hobby" will have a value in the future.

I collect for fun, but I also flip because flipping is fun too. I'm not going to drop $1k+ on a card and say, "I don't care about future value". There's no one in any hobby that buys a collectable (car, cards, action figures, etc..) and doesn't care about future value. None.

[AbraCalabro]

Actually it does go hand in hand. How do you get new people into the hobby? By showing that your "hobby" will have a value in the future.

I collect for fun, but I also flip because flipping is fun too. I'm not going to drop $1k+ on a card and say, "I don't care about future value". There's no one in any hobby that buys a collectable (car, cards, action figures, etc..) and doesn't care about future value. None.

That's not true. I don't care about future value at all.

[mindcycle]

There's no one in any hobby that buys a collectable (car, cards, action figures, etc..) and doesn't care about future value. None.

Don’t even know what to say to this..lol

Believe what you want I guess..

[duron]

Blazed, collectors aren’t leprechauns. They exist.

98pmgs, you might as well just say who you are at this point. Really enjoying your scorned lover style posts, though. They’re more entertaining than even your edgelord covid takes.

[90skid]

I was going to make a new thread for this, but saw this again and figured it would be fitting:

A card you want, but you can't buy it...

Attn Sellers:

Don't bother listing a card if you truly aren't interested in selling it. What is the deal with people "brag" listing cards for sale at absurd prices and having no true intentions to sell unless "the offer is where I want it"?

Who are you bragging to? I see a card listed, I'm interested in buying it. I message the seller first and start a conversation, ultimately leading to offers getting rejected. Realistic offers at the start get ridicouled, leading to my final absolutely overpriced max absurd offer and STILL get declined. Price expectations is out of this world at this point. It's just insanity and I'm disappointed as a collector that you come across sellers like this in the hobby who are just looking for a jackpot of $$, essentially holding a card hostage, and don't care about anything else.

Yes, the card is a 1/1.

/rant.

[mindcycle]

We should start calling it “clout tax”.

After you overpay for your new kardboard ”grail” make sure you document it by snapping a photo for the gram with the card next to a stack of hundreds. Extra points if you hold it and get a shot of your Rolex in the photo. Gotta get those likes before listing it with Goldin in two months.

[BarryAllen]

We should start calling it “clout tax”.

After you overpay for your new kardboard ”grail” make sure you document it by snapping a photo for the gram with the card next to a stack of hundreds. Extra points if you hold it and get a shot of your Rolex in the photo. Gotta get those likes before listing it with Goldin in two months.


I hate it when people post pics of their cards with their watches or car steering wheel taking up 3/4 of the photo. Can’t even see the card clearly because of how zoomed out it is just to see the car logo. Cringe.

[mindcycle]

I hate it when people post pics of their cards with their watches or car steering wheel taking up 3/4 of the photo. Can’t even see the card clearly because of how zoomed out it is just to see the car logo. Cringe.

Oh man.. those are the worst, lol. Like, wow.. you own a Porsche, Lexus, whatever.. good for you.

I miss the days of guys trying their hardest to show off the qualities of the actual card instead of some background prop.

[Blazed]

I hate it when people post pics of their cards with their watches or car steering wheel taking up 3/4 of the photo. Can’t even see the card clearly because of how zoomed out it is just to see the car logo. Cringe.

Good one. But remember, they "gotta look cool, brah!" and do it for the "likes" and "richard riders" on IG. It sucks that social media has turned people into attention seeking narcissists. We're doomed.

[gomiamigo]

Actually you did a little over 2 years ago right when prizm golds started to take off.

Wrong again.

[gomiamigo]

There's no one in any hobby that buys a collectable (car, cards, action figures, etc..) and doesn't care about future value. None.

This shows a truly retarded understanding of collectors. I'm not out here buying 2015 Select KD cards because of possible future value, but to build my collection.

My 'future value' could get cut in half tomorrow and I'd still be happy with my collection. Very.

As long as cards I want are 67% cheaper on Goldin than IG, I guess I'll keep using auction sites.

[gomiamigo]

Rookie card with low print run in PSA 9 goes for $8k at auction.

Guy offers psa 7 for 1k less. Sure thing bro.