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elontusk1119
08-21-2022, 09:51 PM
https://goldin.co/item/1957-topps-77-bill-russell-signed-rookie-card-psa-ex-mt-6-5-psa-dna-1083azv?fbclid=IwAR0DxKw2TVl6tFc__J1-wZql8A-Z2jXeU6JKyysbyZ02Ze694LCSvH5G6BY

Can't believe this went $181k. This could be had for less than $10k for years. I know Bill Russell was a pretty easy signers the past decade or so, so there must be a quite a few of these out there. Am i missing something here?

hermanotarjeta
08-21-2022, 10:04 PM
Maybe highest-graded signed copy?

aro13
08-21-2022, 10:20 PM
A PSA 6.5 without the autograph is a $40K card right now.

A signed copy with a PSA 10 rating would be a 4 x multiple. Maybe?

There are around 150 PSA 6.5 copies or better of the Russell RC - and not certain of those 150 how many would be signed.

boxbuster7
08-21-2022, 10:37 PM
seems like a lot to me for an ip auto.

rats60
08-22-2022, 12:07 AM
seems like a lot to me for an ip auto.

Bill Russell didn't sign IP autos. He didn't do shows for a long time. It wasn't until the 90s that he started doing them and he charge $300 per auto when everyone else was much cheaper. This is the highest graded one with an auto and it is a 10 auto.

sonnyday
08-22-2022, 04:28 AM
Probstein did an Instagram Reel on this card. He was the buyer. Only Rookie Auto that is inscribed with #6, which is being retired in the NBA.

Arianny_Fan
08-22-2022, 07:50 AM
.....Death Merchants.....

Asian62150
08-22-2022, 08:30 AM
Probstein did an Instagram Reel on this card. He was the buyer. Only Rookie Auto that is inscribed with #6, which is being retired in the NBA.

Yeah Russell inscriptions are very rare.

.....Death Merchants.....

If sellers are called Death Merchants, what are the buyers called?

bmf
08-22-2022, 10:42 AM
I don’t find this surprising at all. This has to be one of the top autographed and inscribed Bill Russell Rookies out there. There’s always going to be high demand for the cream of the crop items for the most elite and iconic players.

BlowoutBuzz
08-22-2022, 11:55 AM
I mean, it's his Rookie Card ... so if anything would be big it should be that.

Deadshot
08-22-2022, 02:13 PM
Bill Russell didn't sign IP autos. He didn't do shows for a long time. It wasn't until the 90s that he started doing them and he charge $300 per auto when everyone else was much cheaper. This is the highest graded one with an auto and it is a 10 auto.

This is the correct answer. I'll also add that getting rookies signed wasn't as common for a long time.

gespaco
08-22-2022, 02:50 PM
This is the correct answer. I'll also add that getting rookies signed wasn't as common for a long time.

I’ll echo this as well. As early as 15-20 years ago, to have a player such as this sign a RC was thought by many, if not most, as destroying the card.

Retired hobbist
08-22-2022, 03:11 PM
I’ll echo this as well. As early as 15-20 years ago, to have a player such as this sign a RC was thought by many, if not most, as destroying the card.

Yes it was instant downgrade to a 1. People got autographs on random cheap cards of the players ie veteran all star cards or in action cards.

timfsu2k
08-22-2022, 08:49 PM
I’ll echo this as well. As early as 15-20 years ago, to have a player such as this sign a RC was thought by many, if not most, as destroying the card.

I remember back when the 1984 Donruss Mattingly card was at it's peak a guy I know took one to a show to have him sign the card. When he handed the card over, Mattingly refused to sign it, saying that he didn't want to ruin such an expensive card.

mc1
08-22-2022, 09:15 PM
Yes it was instant downgrade to a 1. People got autographs on random cheap cards of the players ie veteran all star cards or in action cards.

Not pack-pulled = ruined

Should have an MK qualifier

Asian62150
08-22-2022, 10:58 PM
I remember back when the 1984 Donruss Mattingly card was at it's peak a guy I know took one to a show to have him sign the card. When he handed the card over, Mattingly refused to sign it, saying that he didn't want to ruin such an expensive card.

It's cool that Donnie knew the value of his cards and cared enough to refuse to sign in what he thought was the best interests of the fans.

Inferno
08-23-2022, 03:23 AM
If someone brings a card, any card, to a signing or wherever and pays for your auto, shut up and sign the damn card. If the owner of the card wants it signed that’s his choice. I’d be pissed if the player tried to police my collection by refusing to sign the card I chose to get signed.

Asian62150
08-23-2022, 07:23 AM
If someone brings a card, any card, to a signing or wherever and pays for your auto, shut up and sign the damn card. If the owner of the card wants it signed that’s his choice. I’d be pissed if the player tried to police my collection by refusing to sign the card I chose to get signed.

Yes. Sorry I should have worded that differently. Donnie should have signed.

It's just cool that he seemed to be knowledgable about his own cards.

rats60
08-23-2022, 08:45 AM
I remember back when the 1984 Donruss Mattingly card was at it's peak a guy I know took one to a show to have him sign the card. When he handed the card over, Mattingly refused to sign it, saying that he didn't want to ruin such an expensive card.

Mattingly didn't have an issue signing his Topps RC for me. I was getting RCs signed in the mid-80s. It wasn't rare to see signed RCs. It was rare to get expensive cards signed. Russell is a perfect storm of not signing except recently for a high fee, having an expensive RC and one that is difficult in high grade. There are quite a few Russell RCs signed, but most are low grade, only a few mid-grade with this being the highest graded. That creates a 6 figure price for this card.

ReggieBush22
08-23-2022, 07:10 PM
I'm also not attracted to signed RC cards. I feel like they should be separate but it has definitely caught on more over the years where now, it's considered a great item to pick up by many.