First Buzz: 2023 Topps Series 1 baseball cards

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[oldgoldy97]

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[ThoseBackPages]

reminds me of mid-2000's Fleer

https://twitter.com/Topps/status/1566788479698309121

[SupermanBrandon]

I don't mind it. Looks like another year of semi crappy parallels though. Border only. I'll never understand why they overlook the design of the most sought cards (the parallels). It should be...design the card around how the parallels will look not design the card around how the base looks.

[oldgoldy97]

Topps Big looking.

I kind of like it.

[smanzari]

Interesting - I think I like it and whatever is going on with the headshot/logo is kind of cool, giving me '55/'56 and '83 vibes

[pewe]

I don’t mind it


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[ThoseBackPages]

i just hope we get some Flagship Rookie Cards. 2021 seems like forever ago

[Drew3000]

This is going to look even worse in chrome

[Hollywood42]

That is certainly not something I was expecting. I like the team logo in the background above the player name. The headshot is pretty unexpected, not saying I don't like it, but I'm not sure if I'm 100% sold yet either

I like this better than 2020 and 2021 for sure. The 2022 design was solid but didn't really have anything special. So I think at this point this is the best flagship design of the 2020s so far, for me at least

[oldgoldy97]

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[oldgoldy97]

Now, if the headshot is a mascot but the body is Adley, is it an Adley card or mascot card???

[KhalDrogo]

I like it.

I know it doesn’t matter for S1, but woof for early releases if Adley is the headliner.

[zworykin]

I don’t mind it




Yep...

[JWBlue]

I like it. Although it looks odd that the city name is blocked out. Never seen that before. But that isn't a huge negative for me.

Did this come from Fanatics?

[Mister2Bits]

I like it but they should have just utilized the space below his name for the Team Name instead of cutting it off with the headshot. I'm a fan of borders though and I like the logo/headshot thing they have going on.

[BlowoutBuzz]

I think the headshot could overwhelm the design unless every photo is closer and cropped efficiently. (May be a challenge as mant/most flagship photos have often been distant/full-body for a long time.)

[MoreToppsPlease]

Technically not a full border with the (over?) abundance of design elements on the bottom of the card.

[NYRE2PECT]

It's okay to me...it is a lot of space for the mascot though!

[Jaypers]

Reminds me of '83 Topps.

[mikejones]

Probably minority in the design but these look ugly. Too much going on. Could do without the head picture and mascot.

[anusinha]

The bottom part looks like some sort of TV broadcast. I could do with a smaller logo and no floating head.... but overall its not terrible.

[Cpdjoe77]

big rookies for next year we know of? Adley, Harris, Carroll....
will Gunnar make series 1 or be held back for 2

[WhacksPacks]

big rookies for next year we know of? Adley, Harris, Carroll....
will Gunnar make series 1 or be held back for 2

Vaughn Grissom?

[smanzari]

big rookies for next year we know of? Adley, Harris, Carroll....
will Gunnar make series 1 or be held back for 2

I'm hearing Sidd Finch and if we're lucky, LaLoosh

[VandyCards]

Might be tough for Pro Debut as not every prospect has a uniform headshot like big leaguers do.

Design seems a bit busy to me but I like it.


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[cbeauch87]

big rookies for next year we know of? Adley, Harris, Carroll....
will Gunnar make series 1 or be held back for 2

Some "top" guys who have debuted since the apparent May 12 cutoff to make 2022 Update are...

Christopher Morel
Matthew Liberatore
Adley Rutschman
Michael Harris
Gabriel Moreno
Kyle Stowers
Riley Greene
Liover Peguero
Jeter Downs
Lenyn Sosa
Vinnie Pasquentino
Bryan Bello
Nick Pratto
Max Meyer
JJ Bleday
Tyler Freeman
Miguel Vargas
Vaughn Grissom
DL Hall
Brett Baty
Oswaldo Cabrera
Cade Cavalli
Garrett Mitchell
Corbin Carroll
Michael Toglia
Gunnar Henderson
Spencer Steer
Oswald Peraza
Tristan Casas

[hochunk5]

Might be tough for Pro Debut as not every prospect has a uniform headshot like big leaguers do.

Design seems a bit busy to me but I like it.


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Going to be awesome with the minor league logos though. Cant wait to see Montgomery biscuit cards


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[PapaStu]

I feel pretty indifferent to it overall. Not a huge fan of text being cut off when it's an identifier because following that, it means that every team's city is fully/partially blocked, which just feels like bad graphic design.

The player headshot and team mascot/graphic thing feels like I'm seeing them up on the scoreboard at a game and I actually don't mind that.

Wonder how it'll come across shiny on chrome stock.

[PumpnDumpling]

The floating head is terrible, the team logo/graphics are also terrible

[MoreToppsPlease]

With team logos on the caps on the floating heads there are probably too many team logos.

[mma138]

nope .........

[BlowoutBuzz]

With team logos on the caps on the floating heads there are probably too many team logos.

I'd put money down right now on there being head photo variations with either cap styles or expressions. Smartly done (throwbacks or as a reaction to a good photo) it could be fun and something not done before that's not impossible to find.

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I like the design - certainly better than 2021, that's for sure.

I think I would have liked it better if pic went to the edges - although sure, keep the orange stroke around the pic - got rid of the grey bar at the bottom, kept the logo / name plate the same size it is now - and I'm waffling on the mug shot. Maybe stick that on the back of the card.

[zworykin]

certainly better than 2021, that's for sure.


Serious question - is that not applicable to every single non-2021 flagship design? Interested to see the results of that poll that was posted in the other thread.

[Cpdjoe77]

Some "top" guys who have debuted since the apparent May 12 cutoff to make 2022 Update are...

Christopher Morel
Matthew Liberatore
Adley Rutschman
Michael Harris
Gabriel Moreno
Kyle Stowers
Riley Greene
Liover Peguero
Jeter Downs
Lenyn Sosa
Vinnie Pasquentino
Bryan Bello
Nick Pratto
Max Meyer
JJ Bleday
Tyler Freeman
Miguel Vargas
Vaughn Grissom
DL Hall
Brett Baty
Oswaldo Cabrera
Cade Cavalli
Garrett Mitchell
Corbin Carroll
Michael Toglia
Gunnar Henderson
Spencer Steer
Oswald Peraza
Tristan Casas


Some solid names. Thanks


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[Skipscards]

My first thought was it reminded me of 1984. Overall, I like it. Not their best but certainly not their worst. A little weird that the team logo gets so much real estate, but definitely makes the design unique. Agree that RC logo would be better in top left corner.

The bottom portion of the card also reminds me of Sunday Night Football introductions they do at the beginning of games.

I’ll give it solid B.

[boxbuster7]

moar cards!

[majestik101]

The bottom potion of the card also reminds me of Sunday Night Football introductions they do at the beginning of games.

I’ll give it solid B.

Right? My first thought was hearing him say something like "Adley Rutschman, Oregon State"

I agree that the RC logo would look better towards the top. The bottom is a little cluttered, but the design doesn't suck

[ThoseBackPages]

lets see the back

[Skipscards]

Right? My first thought was hearing him say something like "Adley Rutschman, Oregon State"

I agree that the RC logo would look better towards the top. The bottom is a little cluttered, but the design doesn't suck

Exactly! :)!

[ATLOTP]

looks fine. better than 2021

[bobducca]

The smaller face on the card is a Topps tradition every 20 years. ‘63, ‘83, ‘03, ‘23.


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[towerymt]

Design flaw having the city name covered by the headshot, but otherwise its fine.

[JWBlue]

I wonder if the stars on the left/right bottom have significance.

I hope they do. Silly if they didn't.

[Silent George]

My mind will shift seeing more and having them in hand, but I’m not a big fan. adley’s severed head looks strange. I have no idea why they are writing a team name where the city is designed to not be seen. And I don’t understand why there’s so much real estate taken in one corner yet there’s a border. Not a lot of picture real estate. I’m sure I’ll like them more in person. Cards are about more than design, and the card stock has been superb since 2020. For now, I’m a tad disappointed.

[oldgoldy97]

Calling a headshot a “severed head” makes some questions arise.

[OhioLawyerF5]

I like the design.

And I don't understand the complaints with the team name and logos in the background being partially obscured by a headshot in the foreground. It gives the design depth. I like it.

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[NHRonin]

big rookies for next year we know of? Adley, Harris, Carroll....
will Gunnar make series 1 or be held back for 2

Casas likely.

[gresh87]

Nolan Gorman?

[Goldhunter]

Looks great. Can't wait to see them chromed out

[WalterAZ31]

I like it.

I know it doesn’t matter for S1, but woof for early releases if Adley is the headliner.

He was the highest rated prospect across the board that wont have had a RC logo card by time 2023 topps releases.......who else would it have been? Riley greene?

[Astros19]

I like the design.

And I don't understand the complaints with the team name and logos in the background being partially obscured by a headshot in the foreground. It gives the design depth. I like it.

Sent from my SM-A505U using TapatalkIt's almost as if people don't know what city teams play for. Doesn't bother me at all that the city's name gets cut off, or if they had just left it off altogether.

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[KhalDrogo]

He was the highest rated prospect across the board that wont have had a RC logo card by time 2023 topps releases.......who else would it have been? Riley greene?
That’s my point. The available rookie crop is terrible. S1 will sell regardless. But the rest of the early releases will be rough.

[bounty37h]

My first thought was it reminded me of past release victory, think it was an ud set? I'm good w it over, few tweaks would make it better but it's not bad.

[WalterAZ31]

That’s my point. The available rookie crop is terrible. S1 will sell regardless. But the rest of the early releases will be rough.

when was the last time Series 1 and early releases like GQ had a "must have" rookie card logo guy to chase after?

2022 was supposed to be it, but then Wander got hurt

MY point is that they are always fairly rough. I cant remember last time there was a big $$$ to chase in series 1. its always been about TC and then Update or Update chrome retail

[StateEx]

Best looking Topps cards in a long time, IMHO. I like the classic features, but modern touches. The only thing I don't like is their ridiculous choice to push Adley and other current rookies to 2023. Why even have an update if you don't even bother, you know, updating? Thank goodness for BB21.

[Mandy1320]

I effing love the design.

[Ajax1723]

That’s my point. The available rookie crop is terrible. S1 will sell regardless. But the rest of the early releases will be rough.

I feel the exact opposite, theres no way you can see the 2023 RC class is horrible.

Adley, Riley Greene, Michael Harris, Nolan Gorman, Gunnar Henderson, Vinnie P, Brett Baty. There's probably more, thats just off the top of my head.

One of the strongest "known" crops in a while. At the beginning of this season it was just Wander, remember?

[KhalDrogo]

I feel the exact opposite, theres no way you can see the 2023 RC class is horrible.

Adley, Riley Greene, Michael Harris, Nolan Gorman, Gunnar Henderson, Vinnie P, Brett Baty. There's probably more, thats just off the top of my head.

One of the strongest "known" crops in a while. At the beginning of this season it was just Wander, remember?
None of those guys come close to moving the hobby needle the way Wander did.

[WattsBarBro]

I think it's great.

I'd like to see some slight variance on the front for when it's an SP or SSP other than just the main pic, as well. Maybe the stars colored in or a different ribbon or position color

[80s Kid]

None of those guys come close to moving the hobby needle the way Wander did.

More an issue of people going way overboard with Wander than anything else.

[Silent George]

I think it's great.

I'd like to see some slight variance on the front for when it's an SP or SSP other than just the main pic, as well. Maybe the stars colored in or a different ribbon or position color

I hope the legends SPs use vintage looks for the logo/mascot area.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

None of those guys come close to moving the hobby needle the way Wander did.

True, but those “Wander level” guys don’t come around too often. Don’t sleep on Michael Harris II though. He could become a real super star with a full year under his belt and not batting in the bottom of the order.

[JWBlue]

This forum overvalues top prospect RCs and undervalues star player RCs in comparison to the overall market (i.e.- this forum is mostly about investing).

[yodastories]

Argue all you like about the design and whether you love it or hate it. You'll buy the hell out of it regardless and that's all Topps cares about.

[clocsta2323]

If Bobby Witt moved the needle then this RC class should make the needle its bitch.

Riley Greene coming off a fractured foot twice as valuable as Witt in half as many games.

[bmann33]

This is going to look even worse in chrome


Totally agree - wonder if/how Fanatics will have continuity across flagship.


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[Silent George]

Argue all you like about the design and whether you love it or hate it. You'll buy the hell out of it regardless and that's all Topps cares about.

Yes I will. The design itself wouldn't stop me from getting, minimum, a complete set. Only things like opening pack after pack of damaged, or wildly mis-cut cards. Something like that. Otherwise I very much look forward to having these in hand.

[LVDan]

None of those guys come close to moving the hobby needle the way Wander did.

Fair enough. But how many new RCs do?

18 update

19 s2

2022 s1(although 21 BBest took a teeny bit of steam out and everyone saw the printers revving)

I wasn't around when 15 update(Bryant, Correa, Buxton, Lindor, Thor?) released but Im pretty sure that was before flagship in general started rising in 2019 due mostly to 2018 Update. So since 2016:

2016 s1
2016 s2
2016 update
2017 s1 (got hot-ish later I believe?)
2017 s2
2017 update
2018 s1
2018 s2
2018 Update
2019 s1
2019 s2
2019 update
2020 s1
2020 s2
2020 update
2021 s1
2021 s2
2021 update
2022 s1
2022 s2


That's 16 ok / meh / horrible RC checklists and 3 that had "hobby good" young potential superstar RCs?
I think the list of potential names is slightly above average in the last 15 or so IMO.
The occourence of 19-20 year old prospects even making a flagship checklist
is pretty rare in itself...much less playing like immediate all star or MVP level is even more far fetched.

[LVDan]

Who knows- Wander's injury and disappointing year may lead to more affordable singles of the Harris' and Greens and Adleys of the world as a cautionary tale?

[ObanMontecristo]

I feel the exact opposite, theres no way you can see the 2023 RC class is horrible.

Adley, Riley Greene, Michael Harris, Nolan Gorman, Gunnar Henderson, Vinnie P, Brett Baty. There's probably more, thats just off the top of my head.

One of the strongest "known" crops in a while. At the beginning of this season it was just Wander, remember?

Glad to see the RC I’ll probably be going for flies under the radar of most…. there will be a lot of choices in 2023…

[Silent George]

Glad to see the RC I’ll probably be going for flies under the radar of most…. there will be a lot of choices in 2023…

Corbin Carroll, Vaughn Grissom - I mean realistically Topps is gonna have to push a lot of these guys to series 2.

[towerymt]

2020 s1
I'd throw '20 s1 in there with Alvarez & Bichette.

[LVDan]

I'd throw '20 s1 in there with Alvarez & Bichette.

Maybe. Although I have a tough time discerning anything during pandemic lather. And although very talented at callup neither one was at an age that everyone started anointing them probable HOFers right off the bat like Ron, Juan, Tatees and Wander.

[rwperu34]

This is the quantity vs quality debate. 2022 had Wander, who was the highest quality S1 RC in a long time. 2023 is going to have a lot of depth. That didn't work out for 2021 (yet), but I think more often than not the deeper classes are underrated.

[k13]

This forum overvalues top prospect RCs and undervalues star player RCs in comparison to the overall market (i.e.- this forum is mostly about investing).

Because that's what sells.
Only thing that matters is what sells.
Young prospects sell.

[WallyatJCCards]

This is the quantity vs quality debate. 2022 had Wander, who was the highest quality S1 RC in a long time. 2023 is going to have a lot of depth. That didn't work out for 2021 (yet), but I think more often than not the deeper classes are underrated. Quantity would be my preference!

[rwperu34]

Quantity would be my preference!

Agree. It keeps the price of wax down and I think people sometimes forget that it's not always the top RC at release that ends up the best. I'm thinking specifically of Aaron Judge.

[WalterAZ31]

the way too early to think about RC logo cards for 2023 Topps

just the more notable names i suppose, will be interesting to see who gets left out for Series 2, which is absolutely ridiculous but oh well

Christopher Morel
Nolan Gorman
Adley Rutschman
Michael Harris
Gabriel Moreno
Riley Greene
Vinnie Pasquantino
Max Meyer
Nick Pratto
JJ Bleday
Joey Meneses
Cole Ragans
Vaughn Grissom
Shea Langeliers
Oswaldo Cabrera
Brett Bady
Drew Waters
Corbin Carroll
Gunnar Henderson
Josh Jung

[premium1981]

the way too early to think about RC logo cards for 2023 Topps

just the more notable names i suppose, will be interesting to see who gets left out for Series 2, which is absolutely ridiculous but oh well

Christopher Morel
Nolan Gorman
Adley Rutschman
Michael Harris
Gabriel Moreno
Riley Greene
Vinnie Pasquantino
Max Meyer
Nick Pratto
JJ Bleday
Joey Meneses
Cole Ragans
Vaughn Grissom
Shea Langeliers
Oswaldo Cabrera
Brett Bady
Drew Waters
Corbin Carroll
Gunnar Henderson
Josh Jung

All of them will be held for Series 2. Topps will come up with some sort of "reasoning" for it, and Series 1 will have no rookies.

[dbodbodbo]

the way too early to think about RC logo cards for 2023 Topps

just the more notable names i suppose, will be interesting to see who gets left out for Series 2, which is absolutely ridiculous but oh well

Christopher Morel
Nolan Gorman
Adley Rutschman
Michael Harris
Gabriel Moreno
Riley Greene
Vinnie Pasquantino
Max Meyer
Nick Pratto
JJ Bleday
Joey Meneses
Cole Ragans
Vaughn Grissom
Shea Langeliers
Oswaldo Cabrera
Brett Bady
Drew Waters
Corbin Carroll
Gunnar Henderson
Josh Jung

As an A's fan, I'm excited for Nick Allen (unless he's in Update this year), Jordan Diaz, and Ken Waldichuk.

[theshowandme]

How many SPs will be missing from this set?

[rwperu34]

All of them will be held for Series 2. Topps will come up with some sort of "reasoning" for it, and Series 1 will have no rookies.

Then they'll hold them back for Update, then to headline 2024 Flagship. Finally in 2030 it will be a set of pure RC, everybody who debuted over the previous five years.

[matt roberson]

Now, if the headshot is a mascot but the body is Adley, is it an Adley card or mascot card???

Depends on your spot in the break?

[mfw13]

If they wanted to include a headshot, 2019 On-Demand Reflections was a much cleaner design.....

[txrngr34]

The design feels more like Big League Baseball than Topps Flagship.

[StlBen]

With all of their Rip party activities of the last few years I imagine this release typically has one of the biggest roll out periods to get everything prepped. ... so when should we expect to see a rough release date?

[ThoseBackPages]

With all of their Rip party activities of the last few years I imagine this release typically has one of the biggest roll out periods to get everything prepped. ... so when should we expect to see a rough release date?

possibly by opening day.

the only thing topps has said/done is release that mock up Adely base card

[timber63401]

It's gonna be printed to the moon. The end.

[PeteD]

When can we get an checklist?

[mikejones]

With all of their Rip party activities of the last few years I imagine this release typically has one of the biggest roll out periods to get everything prepped. ... so when should we expect to see a rough release date?

I like the rip party idea. Gets these breakers to rip, sort, and ship cards. 😆 we need a heritage rip party too or how about opening day.

[PeteD]

the way too early to think about RC logo cards for 2023 Topps

just the more notable names i suppose, will be interesting to see who gets left out for Series 2, which is absolutely ridiculous but oh well

Christopher Morel
Nolan Gorman
Adley Rutschman
Michael Harris
Gabriel Moreno
Riley Greene
Vinnie Pasquantino
Max Meyer
Nick Pratto
JJ Bleday
Joey Meneses
Cole Ragans
Vaughn Grissom
Shea Langeliers
Oswaldo Cabrera
Brett Bady
Drew Waters
Corbin Carroll
Gunnar Henderson
Josh Jung

Possible Rookie Gold Cups for those who collect them.

Julio
Tork
Kwan
Kirby
Witt
Miranda
O'Neil Cruz
Lodolo
J.Pena
M.Harris
Strider
Abrams
Alek Thomas
Gorman
Stott
Ed Cabera
Detmers
Gore
H.Greene
G.Moreno

[zworykin]

Possible? Don't we already know them all?

https://www.topps.com/2022-mlb-topps-nowr-all-star-rookie-team-set.html

• 1. Adley Rutschman - Call-up
• 2. Joey Meneses - Call-up
• 3. Brendan Donovan - RC
• 4. Bobby Witt Jr. - RC
• 5. Jeremy Peña - RC
• 6. Michael Harris II - Call-up
• 7. Julio Rodriguez - RC
• 8. Steven Kwan - RC
• 9. Spencer Strider - RC
• 10. Reid Detmers - RC
• 11. Alexis Diaz - RC
• 12. Vinnie Pasquantino - Call-up

[ThoseBackPages]

It's gonna be printed to the moon. The end.

as every initial annual release of Flagship has, and should be

[cardsin47]

Delete - wrong thread

[JAM061200]

the way too early to think about RC logo cards for 2023 Topps

just the more notable names i suppose, will be interesting to see who gets left out for Series 2, which is absolutely ridiculous but oh well

Christopher Morel
Nolan Gorman
Adley Rutschman
Michael Harris
Gabriel Moreno
Riley Greene
Vinnie Pasquantino
Max Meyer
Nick Pratto
JJ Bleday
Joey Meneses
Cole Ragans
Vaughn Grissom
Shea Langeliers
Oswaldo Cabrera
Brett Bady
Drew Waters
Corbin Carroll
Gunnar Henderson
Josh Jung

Also:

Oswald Peraza
Miguel Vargas
Tristan Casas
Bryan Bello
Logan OHoppe
Oscar Gonzalez
DL Hall
Michael Toglia
Spencer Steer
Mark Vientos
Ezequiel Tovar
Francisco Alvarez
Garrett Mitchell

[speedyjg13]

When can we get an checklist?

A day or two before release if we lucky.

[glassofwater]

1st edition here we go I hope us mc get first dibs again

[PeteD]

Possible? Don't we already know them all?

https://www.topps.com/2022-mlb-topps-nowr-all-star-rookie-team-set.html

No we didn't...thx for bringing this to my attention, kind sir.

[rwperu34]

Do you think the new normal is we won't know the release date until shortly before release or is this just Fanatics still trying to catch up?

[Middies31985]

Oscar Gonzalez, Will Brennan, Tyler Freeman, Bo Naylor

Very likely by Update... Logan Allen, George Valera, Brayan Rocchio, and one of Espino, Bibee, or Williams.

2023 could be a good year for Guardians fans/collectors.

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[ThoseBackPages]

Do you think the new normal is we won't know the release date until shortly before release or is this just Fanatics still trying to catch up?

could be like the old days .. it's out when you see it on the shelves

[jhssketchcards]

These look like Panini stickers


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[PeteD]

These look like Panini stickers


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yeah that's what i thought.

[cj828282]

Mark your calendars. 23 Series 1 on the schedule for February 15.

[SupermanBrandon]

How many 2022 releases will drop after '23 S1?

[ThoseBackPages]

How many 2022 releases will drop after '23 S1?

at least 3

[anusinha]

at least 3

What's left? Bowman's Best? Bowman Inception, Finest, Gold label, and Gilded are supposed to released before mid Feb.

[ThoseBackPages]

What's left? Bowman's Best? Bowman Inception, Finest, Gold label, and Gilded are supposed to released before mid Feb.

Ryan tweeted this tonight

"There will be a 2022 Topps Allen & Ginter Chrome Baseball.

No info other than tentative release date of February 24."

[PunsRTonsOfFun]

What's left? Bowman's Best? Bowman Inception, Finest, Gold label, and Gilded are supposed to released before mid Feb.


Don’t forget about Cosmic Chrome Flashback Sapphire Update 1st Edition.


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[towerymt]

at least 3

Plus one 2021 release :coffee:

[anusinha]

Ryan tweeted this tonight

"There will be a 2022 Topps Allen & Ginter Chrome Baseball.

No info other than tentative release date of February 24."

Hmmmm..... would rather have stadium club chrome

[rwperu34]

How many 2022 releases will drop after '23 S1?

I don't follow the future release calendar very closely. How long do you guys think it will take before we're back to a normal schedule?

What I mean by that is the Flagship type of products (Flagship, Heritage, Bowman) releasing at their normal time and everything not scrunched together. Oh, and most importantly; no last year's product releasing after that year's Flagship.

[theshowandme]

I don't follow the future release calendar very closely. How long do you guys think it will take before we're back to a normal schedule?

What I mean by that is the Flagship type of products (Flagship, Heritage, Bowman) releasing at their normal time and everything not scrunched together. Oh, and most importantly; no last year's product releasing after that year's Flagship.


In this economy? It’s going to be a while


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[JAM061200]

Mark your calendars. 23 Series 1 on the schedule for February 15.

Is this posted anywhere? On Twitter? You have the Twitter handle of who posted? Thanks!

[DioBrando]

Nolan Gorman?

I hope so, will pick up some parallels of him. Could see him geld for series 2. The more I look at the design, the uglier it gets. I loved 83 and 84 topps but 23 just looks stupid

[cj828282]

Ryan tweeted this tonight

"There will be a 2022 Topps Allen & Ginter Chrome Baseball.

No info other than tentative release date of February 24."

Probably SC Chrome as well. We will see that in August. Fun times.

[cj828282]

Is this posted anywhere? On Twitter? You have the Twitter handle of who posted? Thanks!

https://www.beckett.com/news/sports-card-release-calendar-dates/

[Zauron]

I don't follow the future release calendar very closely. How long do you guys think it will take before we're back to a normal schedule?

What I mean by that is the Flagship type of products (Flagship, Heritage, Bowman) releasing at their normal time and everything not scrunched together. Oh, and most importantly; no last year's product releasing after that year's Flagship.

If you think baseball is bad, just wait until you see how far behind NBA and NFL are with releases at Panini.

We're still getting 2021-22 NBA releases, and nearly everything is still slated to come out for both in the 2022 season.

I think we won't see any catchup for a very long time. Not so bad for baseball IMO, as the main products are still coming out during the season, but good lord the main products in NFL still haven't released and we're in the playoffs.

[cj828282]

What's left? Bowman's Best? Bowman Inception, Finest, Gold label, and Gilded are supposed to released before mid Feb.

Archives Snapshots moved to February 17.

[NCWolf]

None of those guys come close to moving the hobby needle the way Wander did.

Then they aren't paying attention...

Go compare Wander Franco's numbers to those of Michael Harris

[towerymt]

Then they aren't paying attention...

Go compare Wander Franco's numbers to those of Michael Harris
Best 50 grade prospect since Soto? Not much hype for sure.

Fangraphs puts it well:
"Graduation TLDR: While his rookie season walk rate indicates some regression is coming, Harris is still poised to blow through his prospect projection as a 70 CF defender with power."

Wander projected higher WAR, wRC+, etc. but Harris projected 20/20 (which would seem highly unlikely for Wander to achieve.) Which do collectors prefer???

[Jolten Joe]

I think the reason why guys like Harris aren't getting a ton of hype is because we've seen way more often than not a guy come up have a great half a season then fall off a cliff the next year. People are a lot more pessimistic now on young guys now days. I mean really look at all the money that was thrown around in the last 4-5 yrs on Acuna, Soto, Tatis Jr., Vlad Jr thinking after 1 season they were going to be the next Trout. No doubt they are in the Hall Of Very Good they aren't close to Trout level which is how the money was thrown out there for them implied. I mean seriously do we think Harris is even Acuna or Soto good at this point? Not likely.....Is he fun to watch ? Absolutely....But fun to watch and Hobby great are 2 totally different universes.

[theplasticman]

I hope so, will pick up some parallels of him. Could see him geld for series 2. The more I look at the design, the uglier it gets. I loved 83 and 84 topps but 23 just looks stupid

Same. Probably my least favorite flagship product design in years.

[ThoseBackPages]

Hobby Atlanta belongs to Ronny

[theshowandme]

Only three players since WWII have had a rookie year of:

.290 batting average or higher
15 home runs or more
20 stolen bases or more
125+ OPS

Mike Trout, Michael Harris II, and Mitchell Page

My bet is Harris II is more Page than Trout

[Silent George]

Only three players since WWII have had a rookie year of:

.290 batting average or higher
15 home runs or more
20 stolen bases or more
125+ OPS

Mike Trout, Michael Harris II, and Mitchell Page

My bet is Harris II is more Page than Trout

Page battled his addiction his entire career. Great chance Page would have been a far better player if not for his demons.

[PDCCollectibles]

That’s my point. The available rookie crop is terrible. S1 will sell regardless. But the rest of the early releases will be rough.

No matter what's in Series 1 Flagship, it's hard to lose $$ if rippin and flippin cases....just got to put the time in.

[NCWolf]

I think the reason why guys like Harris aren't getting a ton of hype is because we've seen way more often than not a guy come up have a great half a season then fall off a cliff the next year. People are a lot more pessimistic now on young guys now days. I mean really look at all the money that was thrown around in the last 4-5 yrs on Acuna, Soto, Tatis Jr., Vlad Jr thinking after 1 season they were going to be the next Trout. No doubt they are in the Hall Of Very Good they aren't close to Trout level which is how the money was thrown out there for them implied. I mean seriously do we think Harris is even Acuna or Soto good at this point? Not likely.....Is he fun to watch ? Absolutely....But fun to watch and Hobby great are 2 totally different universes.

We shall see.

[rwperu34]

If you think baseball is bad, just wait until you see how far behind NBA and NFL are with releases at Panini.

We're still getting 2021-22 NBA releases, and nearly everything is still slated to come out for both in the 2022 season.

I think we won't see any catchup for a very long time. Not so bad for baseball IMO, as the main products are still coming out during the season, but good lord the main products in NFL still haven't released and we're in the playoffs.


Yeesh! That's terrible. And here I was upset because Bowman Draft came out three weeks later than normal.

[AnthonyCorona]

I think the reason why guys like Harris aren't getting a ton of hype is because we've seen way more often than not a guy come up have a great half a season then fall off a cliff the next year. People are a lot more pessimistic now on young guys now days. I mean really look at all the money that was thrown around in the last 4-5 yrs on Acuna, Soto, Tatis Jr., Vlad Jr thinking after 1 season they were going to be the next Trout. No doubt they are in the Hall Of Very Good they aren't close to Trout level which is how the money was thrown out there for them implied. I mean seriously do we think Harris is even Acuna or Soto good at this point? Not likely.....Is he fun to watch ? Absolutely....But fun to watch and Hobby great are 2 totally different universes.


I agree. Acuna, Soto, Tatis are not close to Trout level so I can’t imagine they even sniff Julio level


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[mfw13]

Have Topps released any images other than that single base card?

[towerymt]

Only three players since WWII have had a rookie year of:

.290 batting average or higher
15 home runs or more
20 stolen bases or more
125+ OPS

Mike Trout, Michael Harris II, and Mitchell Page

My bet is Harris II is more Page than Trout
Trout was 7 ABs shy of a .220 rookie season. Good for him, drawing enough walks. :D

[StlBen]

No Rip Party this year.

[DylanPowers92]

any clue when pre-orders will drop?

[notoriousrmb]

any clue when pre-orders will drop?

The days of pre-orders are probably gone - with Fanatics cutting out distributors you'll likely have to wait until release day and pick up hobby for $200 on Topps' website, or Jumbo for $400.

[ThoseBackPages]

The days of pre-orders are probably gone - with Fanatics cutting out distributors you'll likely have to wait until release day and pick up hobby for $200 on Topps' website, or Jumbo for $400.

i agree. no need to offer discounts

[marl1220]

So less than a month until release date and still no pre-sale.:confused::confused::confused:

[ThoseBackPages]

So less than a month until release date and still no pre-sale.:confused::confused::confused:

i dont think Fanatics needs to pre sell anything this year

[mcwildcats]

Planning on likely skipping all flagship for the first time this year since I started collecting sealed. Will still do the Bowman releases.

[ThoseBackPages]

Planning on likely skipping all flagship for the first time this year since I started collecting sealed. Will still do the Bowman releases.

with no Rookie Cards (outside of maybe Greene) of note, i could see why

also, plenty made for everyone, like all S1's

[mcwildcats]

with no Rookie Cards (outside of maybe Greene) of note, i could see why

also, plenty made for everyone, like all S1's

#ThanksBB21

[JAM061200]

with no Rookie Cards (outside of maybe Greene) of note, i could see why

also, plenty made for everyone, like all S1's

Not sure if they’ll be in Series 1 but no love for Pasquantino, Rutchman, Menesis, Carroll, Vargas, Harris, Grissom, Baty, O. Cabrera, O. Peraza, Casas, Moreno, Gunnar Henderson, O. Gonzalez or Toglia? Got some pretty good names here that should have the RC logo this year. Again, not sure if they’ll be in Series 1.

[mcwildcats]

Not sure if they’ll be in Series 1 but no love for Pasquantino, Rutchman, Menesis, Carroll, Vargas, Harris, Grissom, Baty, O. Cabrera, O. Peraza, Casas, Moreno, Gunnar Henderson, O. Gonzalez or Toglia? Got some pretty good names here that should have the RC logo this year. Again, not sure if they’ll be in Series 1.

I like Harris but there's no one on the hype level of what we saw with Wander and Julio last year and look how prices on those relevant releases have since fallen. Can never say never but seems hard to believe you won't be able to get things cheaper after release.

[towerymt]

with no Rookie Cards (outside of maybe Greene) of note, i could see why

also, plenty made for everyone, like all S1's

Wisdom.

[base set]

So less than a month until release date and still no pre-sale.:confused::confused::confused:

There is a release date?

[cj828282]

There is a release date?

Yep, February 15th. May be a good idea to go off of Beckett's/CC release schedule since BO is not keeping track of all of the release dates unless there are pre-sales. Maybe a sign of things to come.

[jduds]

Not sure if they’ll be in Series 1 but no love for Pasquantino, Rutchman, Menesis, Carroll, Vargas, Harris, Grissom, Baty, O. Cabrera, O. Peraza, Casas, Moreno, Gunnar Henderson, O. Gonzalez or Toglia? Got some pretty good names here that should have the RC logo this year. Again, not sure if they’ll be in Series 1.

Yeah, I think it is a great group overall. I'm a bit biased as a Braves fan though. The question is who gets held for Series 2 though.

[cj828282]

I bet we find out real soon.

[rwperu34]

So less than a month until release date and still no pre-sale.:confused::confused::confused:

i dont think Fanatics needs to pre sell anything this year

I still wonder if this is the new normal or just for now.

[jkampis]

So less than a month until release date and still no pre-sale.:confused::confused::confused:


They haven’t even put up orders for dealers’ presale yet. It seems like since Fanatics took over thru started doing those closer to release date, usually just a couple of weeks before.

[premium1981]

All 2023 products will be available in Lids store only. You must purchase a hat to qualify for a hobby box purchase. 2023 Topps Series 1 will be available for purchase starting August 2024.

[SleepyWill]

Is Triston Casas going to be in this?

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Is Triston Casas going to be in this?

I would expect to see him in Series 2 (see Oneil Cruz for a 2022 example).

[Stech36]

I would expect to see him in Series 2 (see Oneil Cruz for a 2022 example).

I don’t think we have any idea who will be held back or who will be in this,

We know Adley is in this and I assume Harris will be in series 1. I think anyone else could be held back. Generally only 1-2 bigger names are held back.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

I don’t think we have any idea who will be held back or who will be in this,

We know Adley is in this and I assume Harris will be in series 1. I think anyone else could be held back. Generally only 1-2 bigger names are held back.

Yeah, just a guess on my part.

[Jolten Joe]

Biggest question will be who's going to be the 1 or 2 guys that are SP Rc's in Series 2. Those are the guys who will carry Update because usually that's where their first colored Rc's will come from. It's all about marketing strategy.

My bet is Volpe is one of them if he gets called up early enough in the season.

[glassofwater]

Last year we knew who card #1 was and who the cover player was.

[cj828282]

Some details:

2022 Topps Series 1 Baseball - release date Feb 15

Hobby - 14 cards per pack, 24 packs per box +1 Silver
1 auto or relic
Jumbo - 46 cards per pack, 10 packs per box + 2 Silver
1 auto, 1 relic, 1 manu relic per box.

https://twitter.com/tradercracks/status/1616179456728797186

1988 design is coming back:

https://twitter.com/tradercracks/status/1616179665844199424

Insert pics:

https://twitter.com/tradercracks/status/1616179894995533843

Autos:

https://twitter.com/tradercracks/status/1616179897801805824

[cj828282]

Per Ryan Cracknell: "All 330 cards in 2023 Topps Series 1 Baseball has a "Golden Mirror Image Variation."

[ThoseBackPages]

lol @ 1988

[JRX]

lol @ 1988

Hey now, that was my first set

[BlowoutBuzz]

full details now on site >> BlowoutBuzz.com (http://bit.ly/3ANrtws)

https://www.blowoutcards.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/2023-topps-MLB-series-1-first-buzz-preview-blowoutbuzz.com-9-PM.png

[yodastories]

lol @ 1988

Looks better than this 2023 garbage.

[ThoseBackPages]

Looks better than this 2023 garbage.

low bar! LOL

[Silent George]

Hey now, that was my first set

yeah, can't help but love that Adley. I became 6 years old again.

[ThoseBackPages]

a lot of youngins here! LOL

[Bunny Hop]

looks like they removed the city behind the head that was bothering so many.

[yodastories]

low bar! LOL

I know '88 is ugly but it has that 14-year-old nostalgia for me, haha

[yodastories]

looks like they removed the city behind the head that was bothering so many.

Good catch!

[Silent George]

looks like they removed the city behind the head that was bothering so many.

interesting, there does seem to be a skinnier font on the Betts. They didn't update the Adley card picture.

[DioBrando]

lol @ 1988

88 topps has a much better design than 23 topps....though there might be as much 23 topps printed as 88 topps

[towerymt]

Biggest question will be who's going to be the 1 or 2 guys that are SP Rc's in Series 2. Those are the guys who will carry Update because usually that's where their first colored Rc's will come from. It's all about marketing strategy.

My bet is Volpe is one of them if he gets called up early enough in the season.
I'd bet against him being up in April. Only 22 games at AAA with a 30% K rate. I would guess after super 2, so maybe July'ish?

[mudder35]

I don’t think we have any idea who will be held back or who will be in this,

We know Adley is in this and I assume Harris will be in series 1. I think anyone else could be held back. Generally only 1-2 bigger names are held back.

Are all the Rookie Cup guys always in Series 1? I don't the history, but I think I'd guess so. That would mean Rutschman, Meneses, Harris, and Pasquantino will all have RC's in this.

[BlowoutBuzz]

looks like they removed the city behind the head that was bothering so many.

Actually, they just use "Angels" in lieu of "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim" ... Dodgers has full name if you go to gallery.

[Bunny Hop]

Actually, they just use "Angels" in lieu of "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim" ... Dodgers has full name if you go to gallery.

It's true. Even for the Dodgers they shrunk it down to get it out from under the noggin toboggan. Los Angeles Dodgers is probably adequately long enough to give us an idea of how other teams will fit.

[Bunny Hop]

I think they just use Los Angeles for the Angels now.

[jduds]

No Homefield Advantage is a worse choice than 2022 Sapphire's pricing. Hyperbole, but I am seriously bummed. I had planned on building this set yearly for the foreseeable future.

[BlowoutBuzz]

I think they just use Los Angeles for the Angels now.

Didn't look at team's pages but on cards it's just "Angels" when other teams use full names.

[atk825]

No Homefield Advantage is a worse choice than 2022 Sapphire's pricing. Hyperbole, but I am seriously bummed. I had planned on building this set yearly for the foreseeable future.

I don't think HFA was announced in the preview last year either...

[jduds]

I don't think HFA was announced in the preview last year either...

I hope they keep it. Maybe a retail exclusive is possible too.

[rwperu34]

lol @ 1988

Personally, 1988 Topps is at least average for me from that era. I'm looking forward to the silver pack refractors for sure.

[cj828282]

Some prices are being listed already. $875 for jumbo case and $1040 for a hobby case. Nothing special.

[Bcr]

I don't think HFA was announced in the preview last year either...

It definitely wasn't. You never know what Topps will or won't include these days...

[mcwildcats]

Some prices are being listed already. $875 for jumbo case and $1040 for a hobby case. Nothing special.
You can buy 2022 S1 for cheaper than that. I'd rather have that. Beyond just the players available (Wander), I'm just assuming there will be another increase in print run for 2023 S1.

[bub838]

You can buy 2022 S1 for cheaper than that. I'd rather have that. Beyond just the players available (Wander), I'm just assuming there will be another increase in print run for 2023 S1.

1,000,000+ Adley Rutschman base cards is a sobering thought.

[ThoseBackPages]

1,000,000+ Adley Rutschman base cards is a sobering thought.

Wander's First Flagship topped that.

Adley's First Flagship will top Wanders

[bub838]

Wander's First Flagship topped that.

Adley's First Flagship will top Wanders

2022 Series 1 Base was just under a million. Something like 970k.

[oldgoldy97]

What the hell kind of significance is a 35th anniversary?

[glassofwater]

1,000,000+ Adley Rutschman base cards is a sobering thought.

Get the topps series 1st edition, if like last year it was kille with all the # cards you get in a box

[BoofBonser26]

What the hell kind of significance is a 35th anniversary?

Dunno but they've been doing it for years. I just hope they don't change it up to 40th anniversary in 4 years so they can hit us with 1987 again.

[eldustino]

Dunno but they've been doing it for years. I just hope they don't change it up to 40th anniversary in 4 years so they can hit us with 1987 again.

Spot on answer and agree.... but for someone who remembers getting mind blown with how great 1991 was compared to prior years (the photography in particular), and the fact it had "40th anniversary" on each card.... I kind of wish they would have started with 40 instead of 35.

I'm personally happy to see 1988 and even more so 1989, 1990, and 1991 (my peak kid collecting years). But the question is a good one, 35 anniversary is an odd choice.

[ThoseBackPages]

1991 was so. damn. good.

little did we know that would be the end of proper wax packs

[towerymt]

1991 was so. damn. good.

little did we know that would be the end of proper wax packs

I ripped a bunch of those. Every time I got 52 cents. What a waste of money.

https://pbase.com/towerymt/image/171869948.jpg

[ObanMontecristo]

Spot on answer and agree.... but for someone who remembers getting mind blown with how great 1991 was compared to prior years (the photography in particular), and the fact it had "40th anniversary" on each card.... I kind of wish they would have started with 40 instead of 35.

I'm personally happy to see 1988 and even more so 1989, 1990, and 1991 (my peak kid collecting years). But the question is a good one, 35 anniversary is an odd choice.

the significance is

2018 - 1983 = 35
2019 - 1984 = 35
2020 - 1985 = 35
2021 - 1986 = 35
2022 - 1987 = 35
etc.

Topps apparently wanted to harken back to the start of the junk wax era #1 when starting junk wax era #2. When did the first bubble burst again?

[eldustino]

the significance is

2018 - 1983 = 35
2019 - 1984 = 35
2020 - 1985 = 35
2021 - 1986 = 35
2022 - 1987 = 35
etc.

Topps apparently wanted to harken back to the start of the junk wax era #1 when starting junk wax era #2. When did the first bubble burst again?

I get the 35 year math, that's the easy part of the answer. I've been following along the whole time waiting for them to got to the years I collected for (in my case, 1989-1993 or so). [I guess I see your point, anchoring to 1983 from 2018]

What I mean is why 35, instead of 40?

The first set that blew my mind, 1991, was also the first time Topps made reference to the number of years since another release happened, and it was to commemorate 40. (I'm sure there are other examples, but that one is glaring, with the 40 proudly shown on the front of each card)

Like TPB said, that set ruled.

[rwperu34]

What the hell kind of significance is a 35th anniversary?

Coral.

[rwperu34]

I ripped a bunch of those. Every time I got 52 cents. What a waste of money.

https://pbase.com/towerymt/image/171869948.jpg

Doesn't even have the RC logo.

[premium1981]

I ripped a bunch of those. Every time I got 52 cents. What a waste of money.


I loved every second of ripping 1991 Topps. Overproduced or not, it was a great memory from my childhood. I do have PTSD from 1991 Fleer though. Ewwww.

[ObanMontecristo]

I get the 35 year math, that's the easy part of the answer. I've been following along the whole time waiting for them to got to the years I collected for (in my case, 1989-1993 or so). [I guess I see your point, anchoring to 1983 from 2018]

What I mean is why 35, instead of 40?

The first set that blew my mind, 1991, was also the first time Topps made reference to the number of years since another release happened, and it was to commemorate 40. (I'm sure there are other examples, but that one is glaring, with the 40 proudly shown on the front of each card)

Like TPB said, that set ruled.

My point was that there is no real significance to a “35th Anniversary”- Topps was just looking for an excuse to harken back to the last era when baseball cards exploded (and when they started mass-producing cards to make a ton of money). So trying to basically re-kindle nostalgia among collectors, they came up with the “35th anniversary” schtick.

The card designs were also a little better during that period- had they gone with the 40th anniversary instead, we’d be looking at the designs from 1978-1982 (most of which weren’t too great)

[DioBrando]

I loved every second of ripping 1991 Topps. Overproduced or not, it was a great memory from my childhood. I do have PTSD from 1991 Fleer though. Ewwww.

You know, if they just muted the yellow 91 fleer woukdnt have been that bad at all. Even better would have been making the yellow parts black

[techtre2003]

You know, if they just muted the yellow 91 fleer woukdnt have been that bad at all. Even better would have been making the yellow parts black

That was actually one of my favorite sets as a kid; probably because of the Pro-Vision inserts. But looking at them now, yeah they're pretty ugly.

[BlowoutBuzz]

Pre-sale prices are now live >> https://www.blowoutcards.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=2023+topps+series+1

[jduds]

Pre-sale prices are now live >> https://www.blowoutcards.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=2023+topps+series+1

Not awful. I might go ahead and just get those, but I'm going to hold out a couple of weeks to see if I can find a few for $75 (I did for Update). I'm guessing Topps will be $80 on the website.

[JAM061200]

Not awful. I might go ahead and just get those, but I'm going to hold out a couple of weeks to see if I can find a few for $75 (I did for Update). I'm guessing Topps will be $80 on the website.

Gotta see a checklist first.

[ewokpelts]

Not awful. I might go ahead and just get those, but I'm going to hold out a couple of weeks to see if I can find a few for $75 (I did for Update). I'm guessing Topps will be $80 on the website.

Most likely $80 and it’ll sell out in minutes.

[anusinha]

Gotta see a PR first. The RC chase in this doesnt seem all that exciting.

[JAM061200]

Gotta see a PR first. The RC chase in this doesnt seem all that exciting.

We don't know what the RC chase is except for Adley.

[premium1981]

This stuff will be everywhere. No way I am dropping $1k+ for a case.

[jduds]

Gotta see a checklist first.

It'll have either Grissom or Harris so as a Braves fan I'm in and it's Flagship anyways so I'm in for two boxes at least due to years of conditioning.

[towerymt]

Pre-sale prices are now live >> https://www.blowoutcards.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=2023+topps+series+1

When I opened the link late-morning:
Jumbo: 179.95/1049.95
Hobby: 89.95/1049.95

Now:
Jumbo: 154.95/889.95
Hobby: 89.95/1049.95

[NCWolf]

Need to see a checklist first. 2022 Topps Chrome Flagship taught me a lesson.

[SupermanBrandon]

Do we really need to see checklist first? There's almost no incentive to buy early (unless you rip and sell on the first day of release). Prices will most likely go down or at best stay the same, around release. And I think we can all agree on the majority of the rookies that will/should be in it. Plus there's not an out of this world rookie logo chase in S1.

[varjakpaul]

Love how the 1988 inserts look, as someone who has become absolutely sick of the 1987 design used everywhere and in everything (and excited for a revival or 1989 and PLEASE some chrome-style 1990s soon).

[notoriousrmb]

Do we really need to see checklist first? There's almost no incentive to buy early (unless you rip and sell on the first day of release). Prices will most likely go down or at best stay the same, around release. And I think we can all agree on the majority of the rookies that will/should be in it. Plus there's not an out of this world rookie logo chase in S1.

Way too much stock put in rookies with flagship. Sure rookies are a nice addition, but flagship sells regardless of those. Its the first release of the 2023 season, people have made flagship sets for years. The rookies are not the main draw.

[Funkster]

It’s hard to overstate how much I hate this design.


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[BlowoutBuzz]

It’s hard to overstate how much I hate this design.


Has a very Fleer Focus/1991 Pacific feel to me.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/VNcAAOSwFu1gG3uJ/s-l500.jpg

[SaltyCracker]

LOCK IN NOW??

[rwperu34]

This stuff will be everywhere. No way I am dropping $1k+ for a case.

No different than when brentandbecca would rip 100 cases of this...and sell almost everything within two weeks.

[jkampis]

It’s hard to overstate how much I hate this design.


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You preferred the 2021 design where you needed a magnifying glass to read the names?

[mma138]

Do we really need to see checklist first? There's almost no incentive to buy early (unless you rip and sell on the first day of release). Prices will most likely go down or at best stay the same, around release. And I think we can all agree on the majority of the rookies that will/should be in it. Plus there's not an out of this world rookie logo chase in S1.

the cards are ugly ......... that's all that matters to me . the bottom portion of the card with the players face looks so out of place .

[towerymt]

Can't wait for 2053 Topps (for 2018 35th :D )

[justrun7]

It looks like there will be art card variations from at least Luke the Cardist in the set. He states in the video he is in the process of painting and designing the cards and has done 12 of 25. I'm assuming these will have a similar market to sketch cards.

You can also see some more base images. I think this years set will look good in hand.

https://i.imgur.com/1Rwi7KPh.png
https://i.imgur.com/yWA5oGAh.png

Source and timestamp from a recent Mojo Sports video showing them for anyone interested. https://youtu.be/BTC0Fkt_TUc?t=501

[KhalDrogo]

Who is going to save 2023 products? Baseball needs a Brock Purdy.

[NYRE2PECT]

Can't wait for 2053 Topps (for 2018 35th :D )

Audible chuckle elicited, nice one! :D

[wood minis]

Who is going to save 2023 products? Baseball needs a Brock Purdy.

As an O's fan, Adley saves 2023 for me, despite the fact that his rookie card is a year late. So no reason to buy sealed wax.

[Zauron]

Most likely $80 and it’ll sell out in minutes.

The fact several other products haven't sold out, I doubt it will

[PeteD]

full details now on site >> BlowoutBuzz.com (http://bit.ly/3ANrtws)

https://www.blowoutcards.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/2023-topps-MLB-series-1-first-buzz-preview-blowoutbuzz.com-9-PM.png

That's a great shot...this design just might grow on me.

[Silent George]

It looks like there will be art card variations from at least Luke the Cardist in the set. He states in the video he is in the process of painting and designing the cards and has done 12 of 25. I'm assuming these will have a similar market to sketch cards.

You can also see some more base images. I think this years set will look good in hand.

https://i.imgur.com/1Rwi7KPh.png
https://i.imgur.com/yWA5oGAh.png

Source and timestamp from a recent Mojo Sports video showing them for anyone interested. https://youtu.be/BTC0Fkt_TUc?t=501

If that’s a regular base Pujols career capper I will beat down my grandmother to get this set.

Only shame is it’s a very similar image to 2022 update.

[JAM061200]

If that’s a regular base Pujols career capper I will beat down my grandmother to get this set.

Only shame is it’s a very similar image to 2022 update.

I want to see who of the rookie class is in this set. Lots to choose from but my guess is most will appear in 23 Series 2 or 23 Update

[mikejones]

Looks better now that they made the team and city name smaller.

[rwperu34]

Who is going to save 2023 products? Baseball needs a Brock Purdy.

Somebody always gets hot.

[CxL]

Somebody always gets hot.

Check 2021 product.

[theplasticman]

Box/case prices don't seem too outrageous.

[STLtoMN]

as someone that presells sets out of my case... these were flying at $65 a set...pretty solid floor

[parkerj33]

FYI, SRP on retail will be:

$25 / blaster
$12 / Hanger
$ 7 / Fat Pack
$ 3.50 / standard Pack in 24 ct box.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Who is going to save 2023 products? Baseball needs a Brock Purdy.

I'm thinking Ezequiel Tovar will come out swinging. Unfortunately, he will likely not be in flagship until Series 2.

[kyle121592]

FYI, SRP on retail will be:

$25 / blaster
$12 / Hanger
$ 7 / Fat Pack
$ 3.50 / standard Pack in 24 ct box.

Cost increases are ridiculous...up 50% from 2021...in a economy going down down down

[anusinha]

Yup, word from my distributor is that costs are going up starting with s1.... and orders are NOT allocated which means you can order as much as you want

[Jolten Joe]

I thought '22 Update Blasters and Hangers were already that price

[cbeauch87]

I thought '22 Update Blasters and Hangers were already that price

Pretty sure Series 2 blasters/hangers had that higher price too, up here in Canada at least. Series 1 was the cheaper price.

[ThoseBackPages]

yes, this is the new price

[parkerj33]

Yup, word from my distributor is that costs are going up starting with s1.... and orders are NOT allocated which means you can order as much as you want

The msrp is at or near the same as mid-late 2022, but what HAS changed is that topps has raised the price to the distys...so they are gonna suffer lower margins...or raise prices closer to srp. I can't confirm this is also true for hobby but early indications seem to say so.

[cj828282]

Going to be a fun year!

[anusinha]

I'm seeing msrp as a range, blasters say 25-30 and hangers are 12-15

[towerymt]

When I opened the link late-morning:
Jumbo: 179.95/1049.95
Hobby: 89.95/1049.95

Now:
Jumbo: 154.95/889.95
Hobby: 89.95/1049.95
Jumbo up $5.

Jumbo: 159.95/939.95
Hobby: 89.95/1049.95

[jkampis]

The msrp is at or near the same as mid-late 2022, but what HAS changed is that topps has raised the price to the distys...so they are gonna suffer lower margins...or raise prices closer to srp. I can't confirm this is also true for hobby but early indications seem to say so.


Direct costs for hobby boxes are up ~$10 and jumbo is up ~$15. So it appears that most aren’t raising their prices by this amount and are reducing their margins to keep costs to consumers down and sales volume high.

[JAM061200]

Direct costs for hobby boxes are up ~$10 and jumbo is up ~$15. So it appears that most aren’t raising their prices by this amount and are reducing their margins to keep costs to consumers down and sales volume high.

When these go on sale, does Topps sell all versions of this set? Meaning will they have Jumbo's, Hobby's, Blasters and Hangers available? Are any of these retail or LCS specific?

[20husker00]

Odds that Triston Casas has his RC in Series 1? I'm leaning towards "Probably", and although he struggled some in the call up, I think he has potential all over him. I'll be dipping my toes into his RC's ...