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brothertona
09-08-2022, 11:14 AM
This could be massive if they can win this deal

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/34549387/prospects-willy-fanas-keiderson-pavon-suing-los-angeles-angels-alleging-agreements-pulled-back-team

oldgoldy97
09-08-2022, 11:16 AM
Time to put everyone in a draft.

Nester99
09-08-2022, 11:23 AM
I am not sure if “we plan to sign you” said to a 14 year old is a binding contract, sure as shot not in Canada and the USA, but who knows in the DR.

BostonNut
09-08-2022, 11:25 AM
Talk about a nothing burger.

The Angles will just send their lawyers to the DR with a briefcase full of cash and we won't hear anything more about this...

paparoke
09-08-2022, 11:26 AM
Even if the Angels gave a verbal agreement, I don't think it is binding. Kids should've got it in writing.

brothertona
09-08-2022, 11:35 AM
These two points though add a little more weight

Sources familiar with the verbal agreements confirmed their existence to ESPN, which viewed a video of the moment Angels employees told Pavon they planned to sign him. Instead, less than a month before the Jan. 15, 2021, signing date, Angels employees told Fañas and Pavon they would not offer them formal contracts.

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The Angels and MLB declined comment through spokesmen.

Despite the growing prevalence of broken deals -- players, too, have backed out of agreements with teams to reap larger paydays elsewhere -- the cases of Fañas and Pavon are the first known to have multiple hearings in the Dominican justice system, where the law gives greater weight to verbal contracts and their enforceability than the United States, according to lawyers who practice there.

oldgoldy97
09-08-2022, 11:36 AM
Even if the Angels gave a verbal agreement, I don't think it is binding. Kids should've got it in writing.

I don’t know if that would be enough. I mean look at us, still stuck with the “retiree”.

LCM1223
09-08-2022, 11:44 AM
The Angles will just send their lawyers to the DR with a briefcase full of cash and we won't hear anything more about this...

Will they be obtuse or acute?

anusinha
09-08-2022, 12:14 PM
These two points though add a little more weight

Sources familiar with the verbal agreements confirmed their existence to ESPN, which viewed a video of the moment Angels employees told Pavon they planned to sign him. Instead, less than a month before the Jan. 15, 2021, signing date, Angels employees told Fañas and Pavon they would not offer them formal contracts.

EDITOR'S PICKS

Angels' Moreno exploring possible sale of team
16dAlden Gonzalez
The Angels and MLB declined comment through spokesmen.

Despite the growing prevalence of broken deals -- players, too, have backed out of agreements with teams to reap larger paydays elsewhere -- the cases of Fañas and Pavon are the first known to have multiple hearings in the Dominican justice system, where the law gives greater weight to verbal contracts and their enforceability than the United States, according to lawyers who practice there.


pfftt... verbal agreement that they "planned" on doing something? That carries no weight at all.

clocsta2323
09-08-2022, 12:18 PM
This could be massive if they can win this deal

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/34549387/prospects-willy-fanas-keiderson-pavon-suing-los-angeles-angels-alleging-agreements-pulled-back-team

What could be massive about it? A lawsuit in a literal lawless country.

Randallk34
09-08-2022, 12:26 PM
Imagine a 14 yr old American kid getting a "deal"

fabiani12333
09-08-2022, 12:36 PM
From the article:
"... There is no accountability across the board for anybody, in effect, any of the stakeholders in this space. MLB doesn't enforce anything. They don't hold their teams accountable. The teams don't hold their scouts accountable. Everybody throws their hands up -- it's the wild, Wild West -- when it's convenient. I think our hope with this is that there needs to be some type of consequence for people doing the wrong thing."

Fantastic quote -- rules are nothing without enforcement. And you need strong, moral leadership to guide a ship in the right direction.

80s Kid
09-08-2022, 02:05 PM
I am not sure if “we plan to sign you” said to a 14 year old is a binding contract, sure as shot not in Canada and the USA, but who knows in the DR.

Article specifically says verbal contracts have more weight in Dominican law.

Also, case was first filed in May 2021.

clocsta2323
09-08-2022, 02:20 PM
Article specifically says verbal contracts have more weight in Dominican law.

Also, case was first filed in May 2021.

"Dominican law" is an oxymoron

cspaced25
09-08-2022, 02:35 PM
The Angels can pay the judges way less than the "agreed" upon deals for it to go away.

mrb842
09-08-2022, 03:21 PM
they just had the player who had the issue w/the trainer getting him drugs or something. amazing they're going to blow ohtani and trout.

BostonNut
09-08-2022, 03:23 PM
Will they be obtuse or acute?

https://media2.giphy.com/media/L17vkbcSAml9rRcUW7/giphy.gif

mnvikingstwins
09-08-2022, 03:52 PM
Sure seems like the 2 prospects have no standing - didn't agree to a legal contract to begin with

At an Aug. 31 hearing, lawyers continued to argue the cases of Willy Fañas and Keiderson Pavon, who alleged in court filings that they agreed to deals with the Angels -- Fañas for $1.8 million when he was 14 years old and Pavon for $425,000 as a 15-year-old -- but that they were not honored following a change in the organization's front office.

Players from outside the United States (including Puerto Rico) and Canada are not officially allowed to sign until they are 16 years old, but those from hotbeds such as the Dominican Republic and Venezuela regularly reach handshake deals with teams when they are as young as 12.

Boredlawyer
09-08-2022, 04:01 PM
My mama always said, you can sue anyone for anything, and it doesn't mean nothing.

hxcmilkshake
09-08-2022, 04:18 PM
Those kids are gonna be rolling in Dominican Pesos

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