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Scottyoa
01-24-2023, 02:47 PM
Hey guys, I need some help and advice. I am a lifelong collector who recently started doing subs to PSA. I decided to make a splash and submit my 1968 Nolan Ryan card as my first submission. The good news is that the card is authentic. the bad news is that it was given N6 or minimum size required. Quite a letdown as the card is in SUPERB condition

QUESTION!?! What do I do now?

Is there still value?

Anybody interested in this?

SupermanBrandon
01-24-2023, 02:49 PM
put it back in your collection and keep enjoying it?

Scottyoa
01-24-2023, 02:50 PM
Thats always an option I suppose. Nolan isnt my guy though. I would rather let this go to somebody who appreciates it for something that fits in my PC better.

ThoseBackPages
01-24-2023, 02:50 PM
put it back in your collection and keep enjoying it?

this is the way

MiamiMarlinsFan
01-24-2023, 02:55 PM
Thats always an option I suppose. Nolan isnt my guy though. I would rather let this go to somebody who appreciates it for something that fits in my PC better.

Sounds like you’re looking for the B/S/T section of Blowout.

…or eBay?

Cheddar
01-24-2023, 02:58 PM
Thats always an option I suppose. Nolan isnt my guy though. I would rather let this go to somebody who appreciates it for something that fits in my PC better.

If it's in great condition, consider SGC or BGS. The N6 min size requirement means that they don't believe it was altered or it would have been labeled as such. I have a 2017 Bowman card that was returned N6, but got a BGS 9.5.

hammertime
01-24-2023, 03:01 PM
If it's in great condition, consider SGC or BGS. The N6 min size requirement means that they don't believe it was altered or it would have been labeled as such. I have a 2017 Bowman card that was returned N6, but got a BGS 9.5.

Definitely try SGC...quick, cheap, better customer service, and they know vintage better IMO.

Smarti5051
01-24-2023, 03:05 PM
Step 1: I would measure the card to see how "close" it is to the cutoff. If it is within 1 mm, might be worth resubmitting or trying a different TPG to see if you can get it holdered. I pack-pulled a rookie Upper Deck Shaq back in 1992, put it in a top loader 30 years ago and included it in a PSA bulk submission 3 years ago. It came back with the same "minimum size" problem. So, it is definitely possible to have an unaltered card come back with this problem.

Step 2: If it is significantly smaller, what is the story of the card? Did you pull it out of a pack years ago? Buy it from a card store in 1968? Buy it online in 2020? If you pulled it out of a pack or bought it a LONG time ago, it is probably not "altered," and you could feel confident selling it as authentic and unaltered - but you would want to disclose the "minimum size" discrepancy as your buyer is likely planning on submitting it to a TPG. But, if you bought it online in the past 10 years, I think you have to assume it has potentially been trimmed - and again, disclosure is key, because a buyer would be very upset if they discover you previously submitted the card, it was deemed altered or ungradable by the TPG, and you failed to disclose that at the time of sale.

As for value, I think it has value even if it has been altered, just not nearly as much value as an unaltered PSA 7-8. I am sure enough PSA AUTHENTIC 1968 Nolan Ryan cards have sold in the past couple years to get an idea of the market value.

Cheddar
01-24-2023, 03:06 PM
Definitely try SGC...quick, cheap, better customer service, and they know vintage better IMO.

I'd agree with this. On a '68, I'd go SGC as well.

Scottyoa
01-24-2023, 03:10 PM
No I am looking for advice more than looking to sell. Just responding to put it back in my collection and enjoy it. I appreciate ALL the comments suggestions and advice though!! Thanks :)

Bretsky
01-24-2023, 03:11 PM
Send it to SGC. They have more realistic requirements imo

Scottyoa
01-24-2023, 03:20 PM
put it back in your collection and keep enjoying it?

Do you think the authentic=hiding something is true even for authenticated autos on cards that arent graded

Scottyoa
01-24-2023, 03:22 PM
Send it to SGC. They have more realistic requirements imo

Send it to SGC is winning

superdan49
01-24-2023, 03:23 PM
Send to SGC and report back. If nothing else, they are fast.

ThoseBackPages
01-24-2023, 03:34 PM
SGC is a good next step if you are looking to sell it.

the slabs are an eye sore, but beats raw everyday

TarjetasBéisbol
01-24-2023, 03:55 PM
As others have said you may as well go the SGC route because now you have some serious doubts about the card. Good luck and I hope it goes well, keep us posted please.

towerymt
01-24-2023, 04:15 PM
SGC also has an 'authentic' grade, with a sub-note that it didn't meet minimum size.

Difference is, PSA doesnt charge for N6. SGC will charge the grading fee.

I would keep trying PSA before I tried SGC.

Another option, get it autographed. Then authenticated through PSA, maybe grade the auto only.

hammertime
01-24-2023, 05:27 PM
Another option, get it autographed. Then authenticated through PSA, maybe grade the auto only.

I like this idea! Just sent some cards off to Nolan actually.

StateEx
01-24-2023, 05:44 PM
I may be wrong, but don't overly long cards also get the N6 designation?

Scottyoa
01-24-2023, 05:46 PM
I like this idea! Just sent some cards off to Nolan actually.

This is a great idea.

Sdog77
01-24-2023, 06:07 PM
SGC all the way. Had 3 1971 Munson's come back N6's (out of 8) from PSA. Sent them to SGC and they graded them no problem. All 3.

Many people will tell you to send vintage there first anyway.

ReggieBush22
01-24-2023, 07:28 PM
Send to SGC

doubledribble
04-27-2023, 06:12 PM
Send it to SGC is winningDid you send your Ryan in to SGC? Just got the Milton Bradley version back N6 as well. Was hoping for a PSA 5-6.

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mjwoop
04-27-2023, 06:40 PM
This is a long shot, but have you tried putting peanut butter on it?

mjwoop
04-27-2023, 06:42 PM
Oops, wrong thread

speedyjg13
04-27-2023, 06:47 PM
Hey guys, I need some help and advice. I am a lifelong collector who recently started doing subs to PSA. I decided to make a splash and submit my 1968 Nolan Ryan card as my first submission. The good news is that the card is authentic. the bad news is that it was given N6 or minimum size required. Quite a letdown as the card is in SUPERB condition

QUESTION!?! What do I do now?

Is there still value?

Anybody interested in this?

Keep the card in your collection. Enjoy it.

NYBBFAN
04-27-2023, 07:42 PM
You must be this wide to ride!

(Go away Boo)

tonedef2oo8
04-27-2023, 09:54 PM
Thats always an option I suppose. Nolan isnt my guy though. I would rather let this go to somebody who appreciates it for something that fits in my PC better.

Sick a trimmed card for sale