Steph Curry doesn't want low income housing near him.

[Squareburgers]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-star-stephen-curry-pushes-to-block-low-income-housing-development-from-being-constructed-behind-his-dollar30-million-mansion/ar-AA16Xqlk

[KhalDrogo]

Rules for thee, not for me.

[sportzluvr1]

I wouldn’t either.

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Well it's like when you look for a home, you look for a home in a nice area with good jobs and educated people.

It's just the inverse of that.

[hermanotarjeta]

I wouldn’t want to live near third year prizm silver Lebron laker rookie bois either.

[ninjacookies]

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/blackish.jpg


Sounds like #Teamlightskin should have secured a gated manor on the Bird Streets instead of a rural sector near San Fran if he really wanted to distance himself from those people.

[babyfaceposey]

Good for him. This is the reason I bought an older home in an established neighborhood. There is no were to build low income housing, unlike new housing developments.

[GOATcards]

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/blackish.jpg


Sounds like #Teamlightskin should have secured a gated manor on the Bird Streets instead of a rural sector near San Fran if he really wanted to distance himself from those people.

it's definitely a racial thing

[ninjacookies]

it's definitely a racial thing

https://media.tenor.com/y-ijOU27m-8AAAAM/itspossible-maybe.gif

[nbahobbyaddict]

Smart man.

[TheFrenzy]

Post this to r/NBA.

[anusinha]

Does anyone want to live by low income housing?

edit: though a low income house in Atherton is probably 5 million bucks

[GOATcards]

Does anyone want to live by low income housing?

gee ya think

[fabiani12333]

Rules for thee, not for me.

To be fair, it would literally be right behind his house:
According to Daily Mail, Stephen and Ayesha bought their $31 million Atherton mansion in 2019.

The three-story home reportedly already sits at the end of a long driveway that is not visible from the street, and the proposed development would be located on a currently vacant 1.52-acre lot situated directly behind the Golden State Warrior star’s property.

The development was reportedly proposed by the lot’s property owner, David Arata, after he inherited the property from his mother three years ago.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-star-stephen-curry-pushes-to-block-low-income-housing-development-from-being-constructed-behind-his-dollar30-million-mansion/ar-AA16Xqlk

Curry isn't your typical NIMBY (not in my back yard) -- he's extremely famous and attracts a lot of attention, including unwanted kinds of attention.

[Boo]

To be fair, it would literally be right behind his house:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-star-stephen-curry-pushes-to-block-low-income-housing-development-from-being-constructed-behind-his-dollar30-million-mansion/ar-AA16Xqlk

Curry isn't your typical NIMBY (not in my back yard) -- he's extremely famous and attracts a lot of attention, including unwanted kinds of attention.

He probably should have bought the lot if he didn’t want something else going in.

[KhalDrogo]

To be fair, it would literally be right behind his house:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-star-stephen-curry-pushes-to-block-low-income-housing-development-from-being-constructed-behind-his-dollar30-million-mansion/ar-AA16Xqlk

Curry isn't your typical NIMBY (not in my back yard) -- he's extremely famous and attracts a lot of attention, including unwanted kinds of attention.
Then he shouldn’t have purchased a home that was adjacent to a vacant lot. Or maybe he should have just purchased the lot himself.

[coltsnsox07]

Like that ESPN reporter Chris Palmer who tweeted 'Burn that $hit down, burn it all down' showing an on-fire building caused by George Floyd protesters then when they got near his house...
"They just attacked our sister community down the street. It's a gated community and they tried to climb the gates, they had to beat them back. They destroyed a Starbucks and are now in front of my building. Get these animals the f#*k out of my neighborhood. Go back to where you live."

[tmar214]

I mean no one would be happy if they bought a home and the lot next to it was zoned for a single home and the owner of that lot tried to get it rezoned for apartments so the neighbor could sell the lot for more money.

The low income angle is just meant to make curry look bad as these would likely be townhomes costing millions of dollars if land in atherton is worth 8m per acre like articles have said.

[Spacemanspif]

of course nobody read the article, and just the flashy headline. they don't want ANY building with direct sightlines into their house, has nothing to do with the project being for low-income housing. typical trash responses from the posters you'd expect them from.

[Spacemanspif]

He probably should have bought the lot if he didn’t want something else going in.

how do you buy the lot off a guy who just inherited it?

[GOATcards]

godwin's law but for george floyd/rittenhouse

[gomiamigo]

Rich guy is NIMBY I am shocked, shocked!!

[fabiani12333]

Does anyone want to live by low income housing?

edit: though a low income house in Atherton is probably 5 million bucks

"Affordable housing" in wealthy Bay Area communities isn't cheap -- it's based on the median income, which is relatively high.

For example, "very low" income bracket of individuals in Atherton is $63.9k.

[Spacemanspif]

"Affordable housing" in wealthy Bay Area communities isn't cheap -- it's based on the median income, which is relatively high.

For example, "very low" income bracket of individuals in Atherton is $63.9k.


yeah I think people are just quick to jump on anything negative towards Steph. the lack of understanding of what these programs are just further shows how prejudicial they are.

I utilized the affordable housing programs in SF when I was on entry-level salary to "buy" a condo. The program artifically lowers the price to a % of the median income, and they also helped subsidize the majority of my down payment. Median income for SF in 2022 was listed as $97k for a single person.

The type of building being proposed is likely a large complex, not entirely made up of affordable housing, but rather required to reserve a certain percentage of units to make available to the program. Again, for the sake of clicks, they're not going to mention that and just go for the "Curry doesn't want poor people" headline. I now live in a suburb with all SFR and if someone proposed putting a huge complex in my backyard I'd probably object as well.

[Nomad]

Basically, one huge complex begets another huge complex, and that's why you got Silicon Valley instead of Santa Clara Valley. Roots of NIMBY 101. At the same time, you need more housing. Population has doubled in like 20 years.

[fabiani12333]

Then he shouldn’t have purchased a home that was adjacent to a vacant lot. Or maybe he should have just purchased the lot himself.

It's not a vacant lot:

23 Oakwood Blvd., a 1.52-acre property where the owner has expressed interest in building townhouses. There's currently a 3-bedroom, 2-bath, 2,370-square-foot home on the property, according to Zillow.
https://www.almanacnews.com/news/2023/01/16/facing-mounting-pressure-atherton-adds-multi-family-housing-back-into-its-housing-plans

[fabiani12333]

yeah I think people are just quick to jump on anything negative towards Steph. the lack of understanding of what these programs are just further shows how prejudicial they are.

I utilized the affordable housing programs in SF when I was on entry-level salary to "buy" a condo. The program artifically lowers the price to a % of the median income, and they also helped subsidize the majority of my down payment. Median income for SF in 2022 was listed as $97k for a single person.

The type of building being proposed is likely a large complex, not entirely made up of affordable housing, but rather required to reserve a certain percentage of units to make available to the program. Again, for the sake of clicks, they're not going to mention that and just go for the "Curry doesn't want poor people" headline. I now live in a suburb with all SFR and if someone proposed putting a huge complex in my backyard I'd probably object as well.

The plan is for 26 townhouses -- 21 above moderate income and 5 lower income.

Moderate income in Atherton is $125,650 for individuals, and low income is $102,450.

[ninjacookies]

https://www.google.com/maps/place/23+Oakwood+Blvd,+Atherton,+CA+94027/@37.4665926,-122.2143798,3a,75y,14.22h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sWOSZuuJEtIOfRSHckGoxCg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DWOSZuuJEtIOfRSHckGoxCg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D14.216942%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x808fa373ff1101e5:0xa86ab8feb8b8f142!8m2!3d37.46695!4d-122.2142215

All joking aside, seems as though Steph may have been a bit nearsided in his purchase. Sure, it's an affluent zipcode, but there is nothing exclusive about this neighborhood. It's neither gated nor sequestered, and looks like just about any other upper middle class area filled with an assortment of medium to large sized properties of all ages. We have plenty of those in my area.


As I said...head up to the Bird Streets if you truly want that peace of mind. The higher the elevation...typically the higher the security.

[fabiani12333]

https://www.google.com/maps/place/23+Oakwood+Blvd,+Atherton,+CA+94027/@37.4665926,-122.2143798,3a,75y,14.22h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sWOSZuuJEtIOfRSHckGoxCg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DWOSZuuJEtIOfRSHckGoxCg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D14.216942%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x808fa373ff1101e5:0xa86ab8feb8b8f142!8m2!3d37.46695!4d-122.2142215

All joking aside, seems as though Steph may have been a bit nearsided in his purchase. Sure, it's an affluent zipcode, but there is nothing exclusive about this neighborhood. It's neither gated nor sequestered, and looks like just about any other upper middle class area filled with an assortment of medium to large sized properties of all ages. We have plenty of those in my area.


As I said...head up to the Bird Streets if you truly want that peace of mind. The higher the elevation...typically the higher the security.

Oh, it's exclusive alright -- Atherton is only 0.8% African American.

Steph and his family are part of the 0.8 percenters. lol

[ninjacookies]

Also, he should not have the same safety/privacy issues as the typical american household. A celeb of his caliber will have personal security and 24 hour nannies on-site. I get not wanting to be near lower income housing developments, but I highly doubt his or his family's life is in eminent danger.

[ninjacookies]

Oh, it's exclusive alright -- Atherton is only 0.8% African American.

Steph and his family are part of the 0.8 percenters. lol

For sure. The city's demographics are quite clear. But as a neighborhood, that is anything but private. Especially for a celeb of Curry's status. Zero exclusivity.

[KhalDrogo]

I mean no one would be happy if they bought a home and the lot next to it was zoned for a single home and the owner of that lot tried to get it rezoned for apartments so the neighbor could sell the lot for more money.

The low income angle is just meant to make curry look bad as these would likely be townhomes costing millions of dollars if land in atherton is worth 8m per acre like articles have said.
The article makes it sound like the city is trying to comply with the state’s housing affordability laws, and this would help.

[eastbayak]

Low-income housing in CA is like middle-to-high income housing in other states lol

[ninjacookies]

Low-income housing in CA is like middle-to-high income housing in other states lol

Which is why this may a worse look for Steph. Who the f**k cares, though. This is a non-story.

But if he's really that concerned over him and his family's safety due to his new 60k/year Indian/Korean AMD engineer neighbors, then God Bless.

[sportzluvr1]

Oh, it's exclusive alright -- Atherton is only 0.8% African American.

Steph and his family are part of the 0.8 percenters. lol

Very nice

[Arianny_Fan]

With the money Stephen Curry has, I would've purchased acreage somewhere nice and away from people then built a mansion.

[KhalDrogo]

It's not a vacant lot:


https://www.almanacnews.com/news/2023/01/16/facing-mounting-pressure-atherton-adds-multi-family-housing-back-into-its-housing-plans
So don’t purchase a nice home next to a large property with a tiny house on it?

[hauntedcomputer]

If only he had hundreds of millions of dollars to move elsewhere.

[Yanks23]

He clearly didnt get good advice on buying a $30M house in an area with neighbors that close to you if you want privacy. There tons of more exclusive and private places to live in Calli. I dont know this area at all but seems like a bad investment to pay $30M for house if not surrounded by other $25m or more homes.

I remember this happening in socal when we lived there as they had to build lower income housing after they build all of the new expensive stuff and the people that bought multi million dollar houses on the other side of the wall got pissed and sued city for property devaluation. Also most people dont know that almost all apartment complex in calli have to offer some units to lower income.

[Kobe101]

Rules for thee, not for me.

Yup. Too many people are missing the point.

I also don't want affordable housing by me.

However, he says he wants affordable housing for everyone just not by him..... by your house.

Typical L133r@1 hypocrisy

[YayNJ]

Typical L133r@1 hypocrisy

Imagine being an adult and typing that out.

[ZappBrannigan]

There’s lots of cheap property in the Middle East for him to acquire.

[yiguiri2002]

I don't get it. Has he said he doesn't want affordable housing or just multifamily housing? You can put luxury apartments in the lot, pretty sure a lot of people would still be pissed because of privacy reason. Also, what has he said that would make him hypocritical? Not aware of him talking smack about NIMBYs

That being said, he can definitively afford a new home wherever he wants so it's hard to feel bad about the situation. Just buy another property.

[spurs50fan]

I read somewhere the low was million dollar units but I don't think the number matters to him. It's low to him/family. They expect exclusivity which, I gotta say, even rears it's head in this small corner of the internet :coffee:

[KhalDrogo]

Here’s a good article on the issue at hand. Essentially the state has turned affordable housing into law. And each city is assigned X number is housing units they must begin planning for. And the city council approved the project last night.

https://apple.news/AaY-IWNsWRJCU4G67Vb-1qw

Controversy erupts in Atherton as state housing plan deadline passes

ATHERTON - Tuesday was the deadline for cities to submit their "housing element" to the State, identifying places where high density housing could be built to satisfy their mandated allotment. With housing being the hot button issue that it is, that might be easier said than done.

Some residents of Atherton -- the wealthiest community in the Bay Area -- were having a hard time imagining multi-family housing in their town at all.
Hans Brender walked through the house he's lived in for 40 years. He wondered how long it would still be his.

"I had my joy, raised my kids, now I have to move to another area," he said. "Whatever's left for me...you know, when you're 85 years old, you can't make plans anymore."

That's the fear the discussion about the housing element had caused him. The 85-year-old heard that his was one of 17 homes along busy El Camino Real that was identified for high density rezoning. He was scared that meant he had to move, but it turns out he may not be in trouble at all because the Town Council was looking to do anything they could to avoid rezoning--or "upzoning"--for multi-family housing. At a meeting Tuesday afternoon, they were discussing the idea of using ADU's--or granny units--to help satisfy the mandate. But they knew they had to do something...

"If we don't have a certified housing element today, we run an extreme, real risk of lawsuits--we've been told they're out there--and builders remedy," said Councilmember Diana Hawkins Manuelian.

The so-called "builder's remedy" would remove local authorities from any say in future multi-family construction projects. The owner of one home on Oakwood Boulevard has already said he plans to build high density housing, with or without the town's control. That has people worried, including one notable neighbor, Stephen Curry. The law seems clearcut but, at the meeting, there were still folks in Atherton who thought the town should simply defy it.

"I would encourage the City Council and legislatures of cities who do not like these laws, to challenge them," said Mary Gillis during public comment. "And if it means litigation, it means litigation. But we're talking about the character of communities where people pay millions of dollars to live here and expect, in return, privacy and space."

But as Atherton tried to figure out a way to avoid the kind of choices that other cities were making, Kevin Zwick, CEO of United Way Bay Area, said it is a matter of equity. He said the housing element was created during the civil rights struggle as a way to battle racial and economic injustice, but it only now has the teeth to make it a reality.

"Towns and cities are going through change," Zwick said. "And I don't think just because you spent more money on your house than somebody else spent money on their house, that California law or the California Constitution should be applied differently."

The law does not require towns to build or finance new housing--but they must PLAN for it. For the next 8 years, Atherton has been assigned 348 new homes for people in all income levels. The Council was considering what they call an "overlay zone" near the commercial corridor and local schools may add some housing, as well. They hoped that, and the ADU's, and the property on Oakwood would be enough. But the deadline was Tuesday tonight, and the Town Council knew it had to submit SOMETHING or face losing all control. And that's not something a town like Atherton is used to dealing with.

First published on January 31, 2023 / 7:40 PM
© 2023 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.

[KhalDrogo]

I don't get it. Has he said he doesn't want affordable housing or just multifamily housing? You can put luxury apartments in the lot, pretty sure a lot of people would still be pissed because of privacy reason. Also, what has he said that would make him hypocritical? Not aware of him talking smack about NIMBYs

That being said, he can definitively afford a new home wherever he wants so it's hard to feel bad about the situation. Just buy another property.
Do you think Curry is for or against affordable housing?

[anusinha]

Do you think Curry is for or against affordable housing?

He's definitely for it.... just not near him. What's to stop someone from buying the "affordable priced" home and just flipping it for market rate?

[fabiani12333]

He clearly didnt get good advice on buying a $30M house in an area with neighbors that close to you if you want privacy. There tons of more exclusive and private places to live in Calli. I dont know this area at all but seems like a bad investment to pay $30M for house if not surrounded by other $25m or more homes.

I remember this happening in socal when we lived there as they had to build lower income housing after they build all of the new expensive stuff and the people that bought multi million dollar houses on the other side of the wall got pissed and sued city for property devaluation. Also most people dont know that almost all apartment complex in calli have to offer some units to lower income.

When Curry purchased his property in 2019, there was an elderly woman living next door. She then died and her son inherited the property. The son wants to tear down his mom's house and build townhouses. It's not something you anticipate happening in a place like Atherton, the wealthiest city in the United States.

[fabiani12333]

He's definitely for it.... just not near him. What's to stop someone from buying the "affordable priced" home and just flipping it for market rate?

I believe they have deed restrictions. They can't be sold for more than a certain amount, and only to people who qualify.

[fabiani12333]

If only he had hundreds of millions of dollars to move elsewhere.

He's a member of the community now. His kids likely go to a local school and are friends with some of their school mates. It's a great community to raise kids, if you can afford it.

It's also located in the heart of Silicon Valley. Curry probably does business in the area.

[oldgoldy97]

Better than an old folks home. Those bring in all the nurses pretending to be doctors.

[DiamondDonovan]

The Curry's letter was very diplomatic and had concerns since they would be direct neighbors. I've worked in public sector within city governments and housing & development are always one of the most controversial topics for local city councils.

Other "elite" communities in the Bay Area such as Atherton, Los Altos Hills and Monte Sereno don't even have multi-unit zoning so they always face opposition from current residents who don't want to see changes.

Although I'm sure the proposed townhomes would be affordable for Atherton, these townhomes still would realistically price out 99% of people.

[ninjabum87]

Which is why this may a worse look for Steph. Who the f**k cares, though. This is a non-story.

But if he's really that concerned over him and his family's safety due to his new 60k/year Indian/Korean AMD engineer neighbors, then God Bless.

More like "some poor pleb making only 200k/yr household income" in that area. He's right to fear for his family's safety from the threat these ragged software engineers and their banana republic rags and children who go to public schools pose. I bet they only drive moderately appointed BMW X3s. Not even X5s much of the time.

[DiamondDonovan]

More like "some poor pleb making only 200k/yr household income" in that area. He's right to fear for his family's safety from the threat these ragged software engineers and their banana republic rags and children who go to public schools pose. I bet they only drive moderately appointed BMW X3s. Not even X5s much of the time.

TESLA MODEL 3!

[Noles939913]

Like the majority of famous people they all love to scream for inclusivity for all people until the undesirables start moving closer to them and they might actually have to start interacting with them. I don’t blame Curry but I probably would’ve tried to be smarter in my purchasing choices.

[ninjabum87]

TESLA MODEL 3!

*gasp* Not even Model S?! And these people want to breathe the same air as someone who is really good at throwing a ball into a hoop? How dare they?

[GOATcards]

my favorite is when the story doesn't match the clickbait headline :)!

[EBCollectibles]

Like the majority of famous people they all love to scream for inclusivity for all people until the undesirables start moving closer to them and they might actually have to start interacting with them. I don’t blame Curry but I probably would’ve tried to be smarter in my purchasing choices.

We have a winner here. I guess Curry has a home somewhere near Charlotte, N.C. and at one time there he was all for new low income districts. I guess he knew he would not be around them much. I guess Hypocrites being hypocrites at their best.

[vthobby]

We have a winner here. I guess Curry has a home somewhere near Charlotte, N.C. and at one time there he was all for new low income districts. I guess he knew he would not be around them much. I guess Hypocrites being hypocrites at their best.

I like Steph! :)

:)!

[EBCollectibles]

I like Steph! :)

:)!

Nothing wrong with liking him but the truth is that is being a hypocrite at it's best.

[yiguiri2002]

Do you think Curry is for or against affordable housing?

I think he's for affordable housing. I also think he doesn't want affordable housing near him. So, he's pretty much like most people in the country.

I'm just talking about him being hypocritical because I haven't heard him being critical of NIMBYs.

[bloodwings19]

It is about the money, nothing else. No matter the outcome, Curry will get what he wants by moving out, or low income housing canceled.

[ninjacookies]

More like "some poor pleb making only 200k/yr household income" in that area. He's right to fear for his family's safety from the threat these ragged software engineers and their banana republic rags and children who go to public schools pose. I bet they only drive moderately appointed BMW X3s. Not even X5s much of the time.



Just a friendly #teamlightskin reminder that not all Desi radiologists are on the up and up (https://people.com/crime/doctor-charged-attempted-murder-drove-tesla-off-california-cliff/)


I think this entire situation is both a function of Steph:

a) overvaluing his importance within the societal hierarchy as a potential target threat (dribble ball---> throw ball in basket)

b) shilling his personal ability to gauge the moral compass of highly educated skill workers (a tactic often employed by the giga rich)


Citing his privacy and personal safety concerns was a bad look. These are brokebois by Billionaire Row standards...not section 8 ruffians from HoodVlogs.

Perhaps Merriam needs to start devising synonyms for First World Problems that can easily be applied to affluent areas lacking HOA's.

[GOATcards]

the more VORP, the more leeway you give. MJ/Bron can do whatever idc

[callou2131]

Water is wet

[SupermanBrandon]

pompous

[Nomad]

Don't dis the brokebois that put you on a pedestal. But actually the thing is, maybe he just likes the view and vibe the way it is. What if someone said a big development, of whatever stripe, was gonna be planted next to your pad?

Designs these days are Lego, I attribute it to too much screen time and outsourcing architecture to bots.

[MoonChala]

This whole story is such click-baity bs, they just don't want a tall apartment building built behind their 30 million dollar house, you wouldn't either. There's nothing "low-income" about the pricing of those units anyway, it's in a rich part of San Francisco ffs. Of course the internet collectively pearl clutches and acts like he's trying to keep poor black families out of his neighborhood. The scary thing is how efficient this headline was at getting the reaction it wanted, tailor made for the average reddit commenter type to feign outrage over.

[KhalDrogo]

This whole story is such click-baity bs, they just don't want a tall apartment building built behind their 30 million dollar house, you wouldn't either. There's nothing "low-income" about the pricing of those units anyway, it's in a rich part of San Francisco ffs. Of course the internet collectively pearl clutches and acts like he's trying to keep poor black families out of his neighborhood. The scary thing is how efficient this headline was at getting the reaction it wanted, tailor made for the average reddit commenter type to feign outrage over.
It would be townhomes. Not a tall apartment.

[Makakilo Cards]

He should build a wall.

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[DiamondDonovan]

It would be townhomes. Not a tall apartment.

Exactly - the articles are making it seem like they are building a high rise apartment that will tower over the existing homes.

Since land is limited around here and they want to fit more units on a lot...most new townhomes are 3 stories anyways, with the garage being the first level.

I'm sure the city will have the developer include trees/landscaping to serve as a "fence" to separate themselves from the surrounding mansions.