View Full Version : First Buzz: 2022-23 Bowman University Chrome basketball cards
BlowoutBuzz
05-10-2023, 01:33 PM
No hobby box details or a checklist yet but some basics here ...
First Buzz: 2022-23 Bowman University Chrome basketball cards >> BlowoutBuzz.com (https://t.co/f0VQbkbIgZ)
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ninjacookies
05-10-2023, 07:18 PM
Catch me posted by the MTG boosters like
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Children, Normandy Vets, Single fathers, Mothers, and God Bless'ers alike. Don't matter.
I'm coming away with my haul.
oldgoldy97
05-12-2023, 01:11 PM
Will this have Fancraptics new low-grade chrome quality?
jdhaugh11
05-12-2023, 04:36 PM
First product in awhile that I am really looking forward to.
The players they have listed look to include most of the top talent coming into the NBA or in the women's game.
Being all Chrome and with the college license, are huge additions to this year as well.
I just hope they don't print this to the moon, but I think they might. Prices are all over the board so far on this. I have seen as cheap as $150 a box & as much as $225.
Wonder where the public will land on this product?
oldgoldy97
05-12-2023, 04:39 PM
BUC football has dropped to sub-$120 a box. That’s with a solid QB lineup.
kingb22
05-12-2023, 04:53 PM
BUC football has dropped to sub-$120 a box. That’s with a solid QB lineup.
I'd think football with team logos would do better than all the guys in this set that will come from G League ignite and such. The wild card is Wenbanyama.. he might drag this product along by himself
anusinha
05-12-2023, 04:56 PM
I assume Victor and Caitlin will have base as well as autos?
ninjacookies
05-12-2023, 06:59 PM
Wimbledon's 100x bigger than all the futbol colegio quarterback prospects combined. Plus this has the largest hyped female prospect since Asa Akira.
Self proclaimed hardcore wax pessimist, but this stuff's gonna be unobtanium for a decent period.
There will be bloodshed in these Target streets.
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jdhaugh11
05-12-2023, 07:23 PM
I'd think football with team logos would do better than all the guys in this set that will come from G League ignite and such. The wild card is Wenbanyama.. he might drag this product along by himself
Caitlin Clark Sports Illustrated cards are selling really well. Her Superfractor auto might sell for the price of a decent car.
It will set the record for the highest selling women's basketball card ever IMO.
Hail2TheVictors
05-12-2023, 07:24 PM
BUC football has dropped to sub-$120 a box. That’s with a solid QB lineup.
And many did well by opening it.
Wemby and Clark alone will make this a good product, let alone the straight killer Miller, etc.
RainCityShecks
05-12-2023, 11:49 PM
First product in awhile that I am really looking forward to.
The players they have listed look to include most of the top talent coming into the NBA or in the women's game.
Being all Chrome and with the college license, are huge additions to this year as well.
I just hope they don't print this to the moon, but I think they might. Prices are all over the board so far on this. I have seen as cheap as $150 a box & as much as $225.
Wonder where the public will land on this product?
150 - where?
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dunkindutchmen
05-13-2023, 10:30 AM
Is that pictured Wemby auto in hobby boxes only?
jdhaugh11
05-13-2023, 10:53 AM
Is that pictured Wemby auto in hobby boxes only?
These auto parallels are hobby exclusive:
Gold Lava Refractor - #/50 (Hobby)
Orange Refractor - #/25 (Hobby)
Orange Shimmer Refractor - #/25 (Hobby)
But you will be able to pull autos of Wenbanyama & all others in retail, but probably at a much more difficult rate.
I have seen people pull good Bowman University football autos from retail.
dunkindutchmen
05-13-2023, 11:05 AM
These auto parallels are hobby exclusive:
Gold Lava Refractor - #/50 (Hobby)
Orange Refractor - #/25 (Hobby)
Orange Shimmer Refractor - #/25 (Hobby)
But you will be able to pull autos of Wenbanyama & all others in retail, but probably at a much more difficult rate.
I have seen people pull good Bowman University football autos from retail.
Thanks, appreciate it.
cms11
05-13-2023, 04:12 PM
First product in awhile that I am really looking forward to.
The players they have listed look to include most of the top talent coming into the NBA or in the women's game.
Being all Chrome and with the college license, are huge additions to this year as well.
I just hope they don't print this to the moon, but I think they might. Prices are all over the board so far on this. I have seen as cheap as $150 a box & as much as $225.
Wonder where the public will land on this product?
Apparently they didn't get a G League license since Scoot Henderson is in a generic uniform.
Chris P
05-13-2023, 04:27 PM
Apparently they didn't get a G League license since Scoot Henderson is in a generic uniform.
Panini still has the g-league license prolly.
Nomad
05-13-2023, 04:42 PM
just me, or does Wembanyama make the cards he appears on look extra long?
jdhaugh11
05-13-2023, 05:04 PM
Apparently they didn't get a G League license since Scoot Henderson is in a generic uniform.Yeah, it's a little odd since Topps was able to use logos for the Overtime Elite team. Maybe they will get all G-League rights once they get the NBA license in 2025.
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WallyatJCCards
05-13-2023, 06:51 PM
So - there are or are not G league fools up in here?
cms11
05-13-2023, 09:06 PM
So - there are or are not G league fools up in here?
No checklist yet and the only known G League player is Scoot.
coltsnsox07
05-14-2023, 12:10 PM
I seriously thought the aforementioned Asa Akira was that snowboarder from the olympics a couple years ago, she is not...
RainCityShecks
05-14-2023, 09:16 PM
Question - how accurate are the big 3 generally on their pre-sale prices? Is it just adding another gamble to the docket or are they generally less expensive? And I'm guessing the big lure here to buying pre-sale is to get the cards in hand first and listed as appropriate for max profit?
mossoholic
05-14-2023, 10:31 PM
Question - how accurate are the big 3 generally on their pre-sale prices? Is it just adding another gamble to the docket or are they generally less expensive? And I'm guessing the big lure here to buying pre-sale is to get the cards in hand first and listed as appropriate for max profit?
Has there been a football or basketball hobby product priced a decent amount over MSRP that the big 3 have had the lowest presale price recently? Has there even been 1 released in the last 2 years 1 of them has had the lowest price on? My guess is no.
ninjacookies
05-14-2023, 11:22 PM
Has there been a football or basketball hobby product priced a decent amount over MSRP that the big 3 have had the lowest presale price recently? Has there even been 1 released in the last 2 years 1 of them has had the lowest price on? My guess is no.
Wimbledon sweepstakes hath summoned the spirit of my main man Mossdeezy.
Love to see it.
jdhaugh11
05-15-2023, 09:01 AM
You can get this product for $150, however Blowout is currently much higher than this at around $200. This is probably a strategy to make a few high sales now and then have a bunch at release when they believe demand will be higher and prices will go up for a short amount of time.
I think prices will then fall back down when the big cards are hit and/or once other products are released.
Malsk
05-15-2023, 10:07 AM
I assume Victor and Caitlin will have base as well as autos?
I am waiting to make sure they do before I buy. A checklist would be nice.
CircleTheWagon
05-15-2023, 06:56 PM
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Should be a pretty cool chase.
jdhaugh11
05-15-2023, 07:07 PM
He gets his nails done!
hermanotarjeta
05-15-2023, 07:19 PM
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Should be a pretty cool chase.
This is going to be a huge card.
coltsnsox07
05-15-2023, 07:32 PM
Blowout has $195 presale...
njsportscardguy
05-15-2023, 09:05 PM
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Should be a pretty cool chase.
Curious; where/what site is that screen-grab from...?? Thanks
rifleman69
05-15-2023, 09:07 PM
Curious; where/what site is that screen-grab from...?? Thanks
twitter. Fanatics CEO posted it.
CircleTheWagon
05-15-2023, 09:08 PM
Curious; where/what site is that screen-grab from...?? Thanks
I saw it on Tik Tok
BayAreaChris
05-15-2023, 09:21 PM
I’m confused. He also has autos in Bowman U Inception which comes out this week.
Bowman Chrome U comes out on 6/2.
No chance these are getting packed out, right? Which means they are going to be redemptions.
At least you know they will be filled.
ninjacookies
05-15-2023, 10:19 PM
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Hypertrophy fever begins.
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cms11
05-15-2023, 11:37 PM
You can get this product for $150, however Blowout is currently much higher than this at around $200. This is probably a strategy to make a few high sales now and then have a bunch at release when they believe demand will be higher and prices will go up for a short amount of time.
I think prices will then fall back down when the big cards are hit and/or once other products are released.
Link to this $150 price?
CircleTheWagon
05-16-2023, 10:13 AM
https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/2022-23-bowman-university-chrome-basketball-blaster-box-23tppunb2223tppsbnba/23tppunb2223tppsbnba?sku=24923527&camp=CSE:DSG_92700072982654133_pla_pla-1748381175528_58700008026066256_71700000100399557&segment=&gbraid=0AAAAADv4bTYD53ySDrvmqIKbMY6D97rMo&gbraid=0AAAAADv4bTYD53ySDrvmqIKbMY6D97rMo&gclid=CjwKCAjw04yjBhApEiwAJcvNodlDrcR769i7-521odGPa-QtSeGHtVO-3ri_Vn2qc7mFWJbvrqTwZhoC3qQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Presale at Dicks for $30 a blaster, oooof. Same price as NBA Prizm, what a joke for college Unis. Plus it says ships 6/23 and this comes out 6/2 so easy pass.
jdhaugh11
05-16-2023, 10:48 AM
https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/2022-23-bowman-university-chrome-basketball-blaster-box-23tppunb2223tppsbnba/23tppunb2223tppsbnba?sku=24923527&camp=CSE:DSG_92700072982654133_pla_pla-1748381175528_58700008026066256_71700000100399557&segment=&gbraid=0AAAAADv4bTYD53ySDrvmqIKbMY6D97rMo&gbraid=0AAAAADv4bTYD53ySDrvmqIKbMY6D97rMo&gclid=CjwKCAjw04yjBhApEiwAJcvNodlDrcR769i7-521odGPa-QtSeGHtVO-3ri_Vn2qc7mFWJbvrqTwZhoC3qQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Presale at Dicks for $30 a blaster, oooof. Same price as NBA Prizm, what a joke for college Unis. Plus it says ships 6/23 and this comes out 6/2 so easy pass.
Yeah I would stay away from retail for this product, unless hobby gets over $250 a box. With how much they are printing of this (70,000 hobby boxes is my estimation), I hope it doesn't.
The autos and numbered parallels will be where the value is for this product & hobby should be easier to hit.
If sites start discounting retail to $20 or less down the road, then I could see buying that to put together sets and pink parallel sets.
I believe the Invicta and Big Kahuna inserts are hobby exclusive, because they were before.
Allamericancard
05-16-2023, 11:21 AM
Yeah I would stay away from retail for this product, unless hobby gets over $250 a box. With how much they are printing of this (70,000 hobby boxes is my estimation), I hope it doesn't.
The autos and numbered parallels will be where the value is for this product & hobby should be easier to hit.
If sites start discounting retail to $20 or less down the road, then I could see buying that to put together sets and pink parallel sets.
I believe the Invicta and Big Kahuna inserts are hobby exclusive, because they were before.
Retail of bowman u chrome football produced imo just as good of hits as a hobby....sure you don't get the 1 auto pet box in hobby but topps retail normally is just as good as hobby. Hell the odds on bowman baseball are BETTER in blasters than hobby or jumbo
jdhaugh11
05-16-2023, 11:40 AM
Retail of bowman u chrome football produced imo just as good of hits as a hobby....sure you don't get the 1 auto pet box in hobby but topps retail normally is just as good as hobby. Hell the odds on bowman baseball are BETTER in blasters than hobby or jumboWith current prices, I would rather have 1 hobby box than 5 blaster boxes.
If blaster boxes got cheaper and/or hobby got more expensive and it then became 8 to 1 or even 10 to 1, then I would go with retail.
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dunkindutchmen
05-16-2023, 11:50 AM
Do we know yet if he's got an exclusive deal with Fanatics and thus won't be signing his rookie cards for Panini?
byronscott4ever
05-16-2023, 12:25 PM
Do we know yet if he's got an exclusive deal with Fanatics and thus won't be signing his rookie cards for Panini?
Seems like they would rightfully hype that immediately
dizzy4111
05-16-2023, 12:57 PM
Do we know yet if he's got an exclusive deal with Fanatics and thus won't be signing his rookie cards for Panini?
No confirmation either way on that yet
jdhaugh11
05-17-2023, 01:34 PM
Hopefully you already purchased your case, because I don't think there are any places you can get a case for $1,800 anymore. Looks like most places are now $2,250.
brothertona
05-17-2023, 02:13 PM
I think the writing may be on the wall on the exclusive - the original post about it was posted by Michael Rubin - the CEO of Fanatics.
Joshi City
05-17-2023, 07:43 PM
Hopefully you already purchased your case, because I don't think there are any places you can get a case for $1,800 anymore. Looks like most places are now $2,250.
Yea I noticed that too, luckily I already got mine in. Curious to see what prices are like right around release.
Retail of bowman u chrome football produced imo just as good of hits as a hobby....sure you don't get the 1 auto pet box in hobby but topps retail normally is just as good as hobby. Hell the odds on bowman baseball are BETTER in blasters than hobby or jumbo
Even if parallels and inserts drop around the same ratio, there is going to be so much more demand for the average football single of this product between college collectors, NFL fans of new draftees and speculators than a basketball only product (unless you hit autos and rare parallels at same rates in retail, which I don’t think will be the case).
Personally, this price point feels too degen to chase Wemby and Caitlin Clark to a lesser extent when you’re most likely going to get 2 Julian Strawther level auto, a couple of # with a Jaime Jaquez type being the best name and a Cam Whitmore base refractor.
jdhaugh11
05-17-2023, 09:28 PM
I can't believe someone paid $500 for Wembanyama in a 16 box case break on Inception. He doesn't have a base and only has 1 auto out of like 300 different autos. At best he will fall 1 in 10 cases!
jdhaugh11
05-17-2023, 09:35 PM
Even if parallels and inserts drop around the same ratio, there is going to be so much more demand for the average football single of this product between college collectors, NFL fans of new draftees and speculators than a basketball only product (unless you hit autos and rare parallels at same rates in retail, which I don’t think will be the case).
Personally, this price point feels too degen to chase Wemby and Caitlin Clark to a lesser extent when you’re most likely going to get 2 Julian Strawther level auto, a couple of # with a Jaime Jaquez type being the best name and a Cam Whitmore base refractor.
This true to some extent, but the top end players will sell for much more in this product than they did for football. The base for Wembanyama & Clark will sell really well, at least early on. Heck, homemade cards of these 2 sell for more than numbered Bowman cards of 1st round QB draft picks!
jdhaugh11
05-17-2023, 09:51 PM
I can't believe someone paid $500 for Wembanyama in a 16 box case break on Inception. He doesn't have a base and only has 1 auto out of like 300 different autos. At best he will fall 1 in 10 cases!
Now someone paid $2,551 for the Wembanyama spot in a 5 case break of Inception. That is about the price you can get 1 full case to yourself!
RainCityShecks
05-19-2023, 06:59 PM
Seems like the Wemby chase in this product is gonna be real. I just bought 3 boxes (pre-sale) from a random card shop two days ago for 175/box. Went back today to buy 5 more after getting skunked by Bowman Sapphire 23 today, and they were sold out. Anywhere selling for 199/box or less appears to be sold out. Only people w/ inventory are 224/box or more. Wonder what Topps will list this at.
dizzy4111
05-19-2023, 07:13 PM
Now someone paid $2,551 for the Wembanyama spot in a 5 case break of Inception. That is about the price you can get 1 full case to yourself!
People are sick
Mattsurewood
05-22-2023, 12:53 PM
Seems like the Wemby chase in this product is gonna be real. I just bought 3 boxes (pre-sale) from a random card shop two days ago for 175/box. Went back today to buy 5 more after getting skunked by Bowman Sapphire 23 today, and they were sold out. Anywhere selling for 199/box or less appears to be sold out. Only people w/ inventory are 224/box or more. Wonder what Topps will list this at.
--Release date still looks to be 6/2
--What are the chances of them having time to pack out his autos? Or does everyone think they will be redemptions...
BayAreaChris
05-22-2023, 01:04 PM
--Release date still looks to be 6/2
--What are the chances of them having time to pack out his autos? Or does everyone think they will be redemptions...
Zero chance the live autos make it in.
kingb22
05-22-2023, 02:35 PM
Now someone paid $2,551 for the Wembanyama spot in a 5 case break of Inception. That is about the price you can get 1 full case to yourself!
If it's the same one I watched the recap of, I think he airballed it too
Packman did a video of opening packs until he pulled one. It was hard to see exactly which case he was on when he finally did, but it was somewhere in the case 5 -7 range
Mattsurewood
05-23-2023, 06:53 AM
Zero chance the live autos make it in.
Gotcha. So the “chase” would be a redemption for the green parallel, and it’s a 1 in 99 chance at getting “the big card”…that would be interesting.
They could invite anyone who redeems one to an event and raffle the 99 off until someone hits the big one…that would be a twist.
sportzluvr1
05-23-2023, 08:14 AM
Gotcha. So the “chase” would be a redemption for the green parallel, and it’s a 1 in 99 chance at getting “the big card”…that would be interesting.
They could invite anyone who redeems one to an event and raffle the 99 off until someone hits the big one…that would be a twist.
Only if they include some bird cards in the packs.
#neverforget
jdhaugh11
05-23-2023, 01:43 PM
Based on some calculations I have done, I am thinking that there will be around 70,000 hobby boxes of this stuff made or 5,833 cases.
I am hoping that Topps puts out a checklist by the end of this week.
They better put a base card of Victor in this set. That alone with all the parallels will give people a chance to pull a decent card of him.
STLtoMN
05-27-2023, 12:19 AM
They better put a base card of Victor in this set. That alone with all the parallels will give people a chance to pull a decent card of him.
thats what i am waiting for before i pull the trigger on grabbing some boxes
cms11
05-28-2023, 05:23 PM
thats what i am waiting for before i pull the trigger on grabbing some boxes
Shouldn't there be a checklist with it coming out on Friday?
daviswr7
05-28-2023, 05:31 PM
Shouldn't there be a checklist with it coming out on Friday?
In an ideal world I would have all ten fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
Hail2TheVictors
05-30-2023, 04:00 PM
Really thought we'd have the checklist by now. Inception U's checklist was out at least a week before release, right?
Charismatic44th
05-30-2023, 04:34 PM
Really thought we'd have the checklist by now. Inception U's checklist was out at least a week before release, right?
Completely agree
jdhaugh11
05-30-2023, 05:45 PM
Beckett just listed the base and image variations checklist
Victor Wembanyama has a base card, but it's a SP and card #101. No variation and no parallels for it!
Caitlin Clark has a base, image variation & parallels.
jdhaugh11
05-30-2023, 05:47 PM
This hurts the value of boxes, because a case would of had about 8 Victor base cards and maybe 1 parallel.
Hopefully you get 1 or 2 Victor SP cards per case.
jdhaugh11
05-30-2023, 05:58 PM
Cardboard Connections now has the checklist up too.
Scoot only has autos. Victor has autos and hopefully in all parallels, but no insets of him.
dunkindutchmen
05-30-2023, 06:16 PM
Cardboard Connections now has the checklist up too.
Scoot only has autos. Victor has autos and hopefully in all parallels, but no insets of him.
I wonder what their rationale is for no parallels for Wemby? They are first to market (by a long shot) with his first real card and they don't bother to drive up the value on the product??
Hail2TheVictors
05-30-2023, 06:51 PM
Beckett just listed the base and image variations checklist
Victor Wembanyama has a base card, but it's a SP and card #101. No variation and no parallels for it!
Caitlin Clark has a base, image variation & parallels.
I think you may be jumping the gun on calling this a SP. It's not listed as being a SP, but rather "Base Extended Set". I think it's very possible that this is just another base card.
And that takes me to what we are seeing here. It's pretty obvious to me that Wemby was signed after the product was finalized. The base set checklist, the insert checklists, etc were already done and finalized. They added the "base extended set" Wemby to get him in to the base CL, but parallels are listed as TBA. I'm 50/50 as to whether I expect parallels. The Wemby's were clearly added after the product was finalized IMO.
We'll see if the Wemby base is SP, or if it's found as often as the other base. That is a rather large deal IMO. It's unfortunate that Wemby isn't in any insert sets - for people that are looking at opening cases (like me) that is a lot of value that could've been included. It also means that there aren't any insert (or insert autos) of Wemby - so like Inception, those are missed opportunities for more value.
I'm disappointed that they used the Scoot base card in the mock ups, yet he doesn't have a base. I'm assuming that this is much like the Wemby situation, where the deal with Scoot wasn't finalized until it was too late. But again, missed opportunity with Scoot base and parallels. And extremely misleading imagery used on the promotional stuff (which to me is ridiculous - they knew Scoot wasn't going to have a base card).
Hail2TheVictors
05-30-2023, 06:56 PM
This hurts the value of boxes, because a case would of had about 8 Victor base cards and maybe 1 parallel.
Hopefully you get 1 or 2 Victor SP cards per case.
We'll have to see how often the Victor base cards hit. I've been waiting for the checklist to drop to determine if I'll be opening any cases, and if so how many. I was expecting to go really hard after this product right away, even with prices much higher for boxes/cases than we've seen with previous Bowman U products.
After reviewing the checklist, I'm very much in the "wait and see" camp. There is too much uncertainty with the checklist that Topps released. Current prices for boxes/cases have the Wemby value baked in, and if the base is an SP and/or has no parallels (talking about the non auto here), it's a big hit to current prices.
I was expecting to figure out a way to get a few cases by release day, but now I will likely wait to see how box and case breaks look before jumping in.
Very disappointed in the way that Topps pushed this out to the public. And especially disappointed in the timing.
ninjacookies
05-30-2023, 07:01 PM
People paying c8 Corvette dealer markup premiums for SSSP bass of Slenderman in a Bologna Metro 92 jersey at release will be further proof that the hobby will never, ever change.
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anusinha
05-30-2023, 07:11 PM
People paying c8 Corvette dealer markup premiums for SSSP bass of Slenderman in a Bologna Metro 92 jersey at release will be further proof that the hobby will never, ever change.
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Im happy to sell them to fools!
glassofwater
05-30-2023, 07:15 PM
Hope we don’t get another Julio Witt mixup.. silver packs here we go?
jdhaugh11
05-30-2023, 07:16 PM
I think you may be jumping the gun on calling this a SP. It's not listed as being a SP, but rather "Base Extended Set". I think it's very possible that this is just another base card.
You could be correct. Cardboard Connections says it's an Extended Base, but Beckett says it's a SP, so we will have to wait until pack odds are posted or cases are broken.
Of course I have seen Topps have "SP" cards fall 1 per box or easier than the base cards before! Lol
ninjacookies
05-30-2023, 07:17 PM
Im happy to sell them to fools!
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anusinha
05-30-2023, 07:17 PM
Card 101 isnt listed as an sp, its just extended set
Hail2TheVictors
05-30-2023, 07:21 PM
You could be correct. Cardboard Connections says it's an Extended Base, but Beckett says it's a SP, so we will have to wait until pack odds are posted or cases are broken.
Of course I have seen Topps have "SP" cards fall 1 per box or easier than the base cards before! Lol
I’ll be honest, that was my optimism talking, lol. Topps can’t be trusted until it’s verified from boxes/cases we are opened.
And the “tba” ok parallels? What kind of garbage is that? It’s 3 days before release, there are either parallels or there aren’t.
jdhaugh11
05-30-2023, 07:52 PM
I’ll be honest, that was my optimism talking, lol. Topps can’t be trusted until it’s verified from boxes/cases we are opened.
And the “tba” ok parallels? What kind of garbage is that? It’s 3 days before release, there are either parallels or there aren’t.
Beckett says: Parallels (#1-100 only)
While Cardboard Connections says: PARALLEL CARDS: TBA
So once again we will see which site is correct.
Even if Victor and Scoot were put in late, they could of made parallels for Victor or at least had an extended or SP base for Scoot like they do for Victor!
I just hope they didn't pack these out in waves and all the Victor and Scoot cards are only in the later packaged boxes. Not sure if they still do it this way or not.
N8theGR8
05-30-2023, 08:45 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230531/c64fc3e21e358f26195b2af91340d006.jpg
This is the spreadsheet link from Cardboard Connection. They have it listed as an SP on this spreadsheet.
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jdhaugh11
05-30-2023, 08:59 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230531/c64fc3e21e358f26195b2af91340d006.jpg
This is the spreadsheet link from Cardboard Connection. They have it listed as an SP on this spreadsheet.
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Ok, so both places have it listed as a SP, now the question is how SP'ed? I really don't want it to be harder than 1 per case. It will sell well regardless IMO.
The good news is that everyone in the base has an auto this year, unlike in the past.
Also it doesn't say that Victor or Scoot are SP autos, so hopefully they are just as easy to hit as everyone else.
Wonder if they will be an extra hit like Inception? Since they were a late addition. Hey, a boy can dream!
Hail2TheVictors
05-30-2023, 09:57 PM
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On the regular product page on cardboard connection it doesn’t say short print though?
jdhaugh11
05-30-2023, 10:31 PM
Based on what I have read and calculated, you should get 2 numbered parallels per box.
1 of the 2 autos will be a parallel on average per box
& you will get 1 insert auto per case.
You will get 48 Refractors and 12 Shimmers.
Get about 930 base cards, so expect to make 8-9 sets depending on collation.
As for insert sets:
Should make 2 Skyscraping sets
1 Invicta set (Hobby exclusive)
1 2009 Bowman set
And get 1 Big Kahuna SP insert per case (Hobby exclusive)
N8theGR8
05-31-2023, 10:02 AM
On the regular product page on cardboard connection it doesn’t say short print though?
Right, however the spreadsheet they link on the page does. I would bet it will be a short print and potentially 1 per case or less. I hope I’m wrong and it’s like 1 for every 2-3 boxes but I doubt it.
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bustsomewax
05-31-2023, 10:03 AM
This is a tremendous gut punch for anyone who pre-ordered by the case. Glad I waited it out, although I thought for sure Scoot and Wemby would be in base set with parallels.
jdhaugh11
05-31-2023, 11:34 AM
This is a tremendous gut punch for anyone who pre-ordered by the case. Glad I waited it out, although I thought for sure Scoot and Wemby would be in base set with parallels.
While I agree with you sentiment, I am still really looking forward to this product. I am mainly after Caitlin Clark & she has base, parallels, variation, inserts & autos in all forms, with the exception of Skyscraping (obviously).
Since I got in at $150 a box, I am only slightly disappointed with how Topps doesn't have Scoot in the base and only SP base for Victor.
bustsomewax
05-31-2023, 11:40 AM
While I agree with you sentiment, I am still really looking forward to this product. I am mainly after Caitlin Clark & she has base, parallels, variation, inserts & autos in all forms, with the exception of Skyscraping (obviously).
Since I got in at $150 a box, I am only slightly disappointed with how Topps doesn't have Scoot in the base and only SP base for Victor.
At $150 per box it's probably still good.
Alot hinges on that Wemby SP rate and how many autos he has along with Scoot.
Hail2TheVictors
05-31-2023, 01:49 PM
At $150 per box it's probably still good.
Alot hinges on that Wemby SP rate and how many autos he has along with Scoot.
Agree.
On the positive side, after inception I was concerned that the auto list would be more than just the 100 card base set, which means a lot more filler type stuff. It’s encouraging to see the auto checklist only has 100 names (plus wemby and scoot). That’s a pretty big deal. Obviously inception had football guys, but I was concerned that they may go to 150+ on the auto checklist, thus watering down the product.
jdhaugh11
05-31-2023, 02:37 PM
Agree.
On the positive side, after inception I was concerned that the auto list would be more than just the 100 card base set, which means a lot more filler type stuff. It’s encouraging to see the auto checklist only has 100 names (plus wemby and scoot). That’s a pretty big deal. Obviously inception had football guys, but I was concerned that they may go to 150+ on the auto checklist, thus watering down the product.
Yeah this checklist is so much better than last year, plus you add in the fact that this is all Chrome & has the college license.
There are 18 autos that I am hoping to hit. Hopefully I get at least 4 of the following in my 12 box case (in no particular order):
Victor Wembanyama - Will be the #1 overall pick in 2023 draft
Scoot Henderson - Projected #2 or #3 pick in 2023 draft
Brandon Miller - Projected #2 or #3 pick in 2023 draft
Caitlin Clark - Biggest name in women's basketball
Matas Buzelis - Possible #1 pick in 2024 draft
Tyrese Proctor - Projected Top 10 pick in 2024 draft
Jared McCain - A Top HS player & projected lottery pick in 2024 draft
Julian Phillips - Projected lottery pick in 2024 draft
Aliyah Boston - #1 pick in 2023 WNBA draft
JuJu Watkins - #1 women's HS recruit
Jarace Walker - Projected #5 pick in 2023 draft
Cam Whitmore - Projected #6 pick in 2023 draft
Anthony Black - Projected #8 pick in 2023 draft
Jordan Hawkins - Projected #10 pick in 2023 draft
Gradey Dick - Projected lottery pick in 2023 draft
Dereck Lively - Projected lottery pick in 2023 draft
Gregory "G.G." Jackson - Projected top 15 pick in 2023 draft
Kris Murray - I am an Iowa fan & he is a projected 1st round pick in 2023 draft
There are also like a dozen other guys projected as 1st round picks in either the 2023 or 2024 NBA draft, so you should get several decent autos in a case.
ricebellypanda
05-31-2023, 03:01 PM
Yeah this checklist is so much better than last year, plus you add in the fact that this is all Chrome & has the college license.
There are 18 autos that I am hoping to hit. Hopefully I get at least 4 of the following in my 12 box case (in no particular order):
Victor Wembanyama - Will be the #1 overall pick in 2023 draft
Scoot Henderson - Projected #2 or #3 pick in 2023 draft
Brandon Miller - Projected #2 or #3 pick in 2023 draft
Caitlin Clark - Biggest name in women's basketball
Matas Buzelis - Possible #1 pick in 2024 draft
Tyrese Proctor - Projected Top 10 pick in 2024 draft
Jared McCain - A Top HS player & projected lottery pick in 2024 draft
Julian Phillips - Projected lottery pick in 2024 draft
Aliyah Boston - #1 pick in 2023 WNBA draft
JuJu Watkins - #1 women's HS recruit
Jarace Walker - Projected #5 pick in 2023 draft
Cam Whitmore - Projected #6 pick in 2023 draft
Anthony Black - Projected #8 pick in 2023 draft
Jordan Hawkins - Projected #10 pick in 2023 draft
Gradey Dick - Projected lottery pick in 2023 draft
Dereck Lively - Projected lottery pick in 2023 draft
Gregory "G.G." Jackson - Projected top 15 pick in 2023 draft
Kris Murray - I am an Iowa fan & he is a projected 1st round pick in 2023 draft
There are also like a dozen other guys projected as 1st round picks in either the 2023 or 2024 NBA draft, so you should get several decent autos in a case.
Thanks for this list
robdijohn
05-31-2023, 04:51 PM
Yes agree, thank you.
kingb22
05-31-2023, 05:26 PM
Just looking at the parallel count and 2 per box, my math says 11-12k "hobby cases". The reason for the quotes is my brain can't handle blasters . Anyway even if "SP" means 1000 autos each of Wanbenyama and Scoot... That math yields pretty long odds
jdhaugh11
05-31-2023, 05:40 PM
Just looking at the parallel count and 2 per box, my math says 11-12k "hobby cases". The reason for the quotes is my brain can't handle blasters ��. Anyway even if "SP" means 1000 autos each of Wanbenyama and Scoot... That math yields pretty long odds
I am an impatient dork, so I used some of last years numbers along with the know variables for this year and came up with 70,000 hobby boxes or 5,833 hobby cases.
I see that Blowout has boxes in hand based on having an actual photo of the box online, but I have yet to get a shipping notice. I highly doubt I will get my case Friday or possibly even Saturday!
Mattsurewood
06-01-2023, 11:54 AM
I am an impatient dork, so I used some of last years numbers along with the know variables for this year and came up with 70,000 hobby boxes or 5,833 hobby cases.
I see that Blowout has boxes in hand based on having an actual photo of the box online, but I have yet to get a shipping notice. I highly doubt I will get my case Friday or possibly even Saturday!
Just got my Blowout shipping notice, due in tomorrow (Friday 6/2).
Joshi City
06-01-2023, 01:14 PM
Just got my Blowout shipping notice, due in tomorrow (Friday 6/2).
Same, got my tracking from D&A, looks like everyone got them on time. I got two cases (seeing them at a decent price got me a little too excited), hopefully things work out!
jdhaugh11
06-01-2023, 04:54 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sRe4OFJGzqLOtT3zwtwZIYqbEwEznlDd/edit?usp=drivesdk&ouid=117785305165723864843&rtpof=true&sd=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sRe4OFJGzqLOtT3zwtwZIYqbEwEznlDd/edit?usp=drivesdk&ouid=117785305165723864843&rtpof=true&sd=true
Here is a link to my estimated pack odds and production run.
jdhaugh11
06-01-2023, 05:47 PM
There are some singles already online. Caitlin Clark Big Kahuna Auto /150 being the biggest so far.
Small sample size, but there are 8 Clark base cards so far and 1 Victor Wembanyama SP.
I wouldn't mind if those ratios hold true, that would mean he falls about 1 per case.
Will need a bigger sample size or pack odds to verify of course.
jdhaugh11
06-01-2023, 07:31 PM
Packman just opened 2 boxes and posted it to YouTube.
He hit a Wembanyama extended base card. It looks faded compared to the other base cards & so does the one on ebay.
Guessing these won't be impossible to hit.
He hit 2 numbered parallels in each box, the Shimmers threw me off at first, since I thought they were purple numbered parallels, so my calculations might still be right for 70,000 hobby boxes.
Are there any other big names besides Wemby?
kingb22
06-01-2023, 08:13 PM
Packman just opened 2 boxes and posted it to YouTube.
He hit a Wembanyama extended base card. It looks faded compared to the other base cards & so does the one on ebay.
Guessing these won't be impossible to hit.
He hit 2 numbered parallels in each box, the Shimmers threw me off at first, since I thought they were purple numbered parallels, so my calculations might still be right for 70,000 hobby boxes.
I went through the calculations - very nice work! Any sense of how many of the SP autos were printed? I didn't know if they show up in pack odds or it will really come down to watching some case breaks
Also, it would seem that the volume of #'d parallels in blasters is roughly equal to the # that appear in Hobby boxes. It will be worth seeing if the SP's are fully in blasters, and what the ratio of Blaster price vs Hobby prices turns out to be.
coltsnsox07
06-01-2023, 08:13 PM
A member here posted in the break section he hit a Wemby auto redemption.
Hail2TheVictors
06-01-2023, 08:13 PM
Packman just opened 2 boxes and posted it to YouTube.
He hit a Wembanyama extended base card. It looks faded compared to the other base cards & so does the one on ebay.
Guessing these won't be impossible to hit.
He hit 2 numbered parallels in each box, the Shimmers threw me off at first, since I thought they were purple numbered parallels, so my calculations might still be right for 70,000 hobby boxes.
Opened 4 cases, and just finished.
Hit one Wemby base non auto, and 0 Scoot. These will be very SSP if my 4 cases are any indicator.
This was one of the best breaks I've had in a long time. Highlights:
-Wemby green auto (redemption)
-Wemby base auto (redemption)
-Scoot base auto (redemption)
-Wemby base non auto SSP
-Zach Edey orange shimmer auto /25
-Zach Edey yellow auto /75
-Oscar Tshiebwe gold auto /50
-Oscar Tshiebwe prime signatures /50
-Oscar Tshiebwe lava auto /199
-Oscar Tshiebwe refractor auto /499
-Jalen Wilson orange shimmer auto /25
-Gradey Dick prime signatures orange /25
-Aliyah Boston green auto /99
-GG Jackson gold lava auto /50
Hit lots of other good/solid names as well. Absolutely thrilled with the results.
Charismatic44th
06-01-2023, 08:23 PM
Opened 4 cases, and just finished.
Hit one Wemby base non auto, and 0 Scoot. These will be very SSP if my 4 cases are any indicator.
This was one of the best breaks I've had in a long time. Highlights:
-Wemby green auto (redemption)
-Wemby base auto (redemption)
-Scoot base auto (redemption)
-Wemby base non auto SSP
-Zach Edey orange shimmer auto /25
-Zach Edey yellow auto /75
-Oscar Tshiebwe gold auto /50
-Oscar Tshiebwe prime signatures /50
-Oscar Tshiebwe lava auto /199
-Oscar Tshiebwe refractor auto /499
-Jalen Wilson orange shimmer auto /25
-Gradey Dick prime signatures orange /25
-Aliyah Boston green auto /99
-GG Jackson gold lava auto /50
Hit lots of other good/solid names as well. Absolutely thrilled with the results.
Wow you absolutely killed it. Congrats
ninjacookies
06-01-2023, 08:24 PM
Opened 4 cases, and just finished.
Hit one Wemby base non auto, and 0 Scoot. These will be very SSP if my 4 cases are any indicator.
This was one of the best breaks I've had in a long time. Highlights:
-Wemby green auto (redemption)
-Wemby base auto (redemption)
-Scoot base auto (redemption)
-Wemby base non auto SSP
-Zach Edey orange shimmer auto /25
-Zach Edey yellow auto /75
-Oscar Tshiebwe gold auto /50
-Oscar Tshiebwe prime signatures /50
-Oscar Tshiebwe lava auto /199
-Oscar Tshiebwe refractor auto /499
-Jalen Wilson orange shimmer auto /25
-Gradey Dick prime signatures orange /25
-Aliyah Boston green auto /99
-GG Jackson gold lava auto /50
Hit lots of other good/solid names as well. Absolutely thrilled with the results.
Curious how much those Wemby redemptions pull. Have to think they cover over half the buy-in by themselves.
Making the bass super ssp was a clown move. Who the hell is going to covet non auto'd French uniform stuff in the medium term once they flood with more releases.
One or 2 per case would have been perfect, imo.
Grats on the haul.
Brobocop
06-01-2023, 08:31 PM
Curious how much those Wemby redemptions pull. Have to think they cover over half the buy-in by themselves.
Making the bass super ssp was a clown move. Who the hell is going to covet non auto'd French uniform stuff in the medium term once they flood with more releases.
One or 2 per case would have been perfect, imo.
Grats on the haul.
Yeah, I mean, I have to imagine he will have base cards in Panini products this year. This is like Leaf products with some semblance of a license.
Hail2TheVictors
06-01-2023, 08:39 PM
Curious how much those Wemby redemptions pull. Have to think they cover over half the buy-in by themselves.
Making the bass super ssp was a clown move. Who the hell is going to covet non auto'd French uniform stuff in the medium term once they flood with more releases.
One or 2 per case would have been perfect, imo.
Grats on the haul.
Couldn't agree more on the base SSP for Wemby and Scoot. It's super frustrating. They could've found a way to get more of them in there.
I was super stoked about the green Wemby redemption. The green is the one he inscribed "First Card I Ever Signed" which should mean that it sells a little higher than it otherwise would have. 1 in 99 shot of hitting that card.
Outside of the base SSP thing, I thought this stuff was really well done. I am guessing my haul was among the best I could've had, but overall I was pretty happy even without the Wemby redemptions honestly.
Hail2TheVictors
06-01-2023, 08:40 PM
Wow you absolutely killed it. Congrats
Thanks, it was so much fun. Had my daughter slow roll the green redemption and we were all super pumped.
I break a lot of products by the case, especially college stuff, and this was my best break in quite a while. Have to enjoy those ones, that is for sure.
ninjacookies
06-01-2023, 08:43 PM
Yeah, I mean, I have to imagine he will have base cards in Panini products this year. This is like Leaf products with some semblance of a license.
Should fetch a pretty penny if you get it up asap.
I'd be ecstatic with your rip. Absolutely murdered it. :cool:
jdhaugh11
06-01-2023, 08:52 PM
Opened 4 cases, and just finished.
Hit one Wemby base non auto, and 0 Scoot. These will be very SSP if my 4 cases are any indicator.
This was one of the best breaks I've had in a long time. Highlights:
-Wemby green auto (redemption)
-Wemby base auto (redemption)
-Scoot base auto (redemption)
-Wemby base non auto SSP
-Zach Edey orange shimmer auto /25
-Zach Edey yellow auto /75
-Oscar Tshiebwe gold auto /50
-Oscar Tshiebwe prime signatures /50
-Oscar Tshiebwe lava auto /199
-Oscar Tshiebwe refractor auto /499
-Jalen Wilson orange shimmer auto /25
-Gradey Dick prime signatures orange /25
-Aliyah Boston green auto /99
-GG Jackson gold lava auto /50
Hit lots of other good/solid names as well. Absolutely thrilled with the results.
Wow that is amazing, congrats!
Could you possibly post the pack odds for us?
jdhaugh11
06-01-2023, 08:59 PM
Thanks, it was so much fun. Had my daughter slow roll the green redemption and we were all super pumped.
I break a lot of products by the case, especially college stuff, and this was my best break in quite a while. Have to enjoy those ones, that is for sure.
So based on your amazing break, we should all expect to either get a Wemby SP, Wemby Auto or Scoot auto in a case! Lol j/k of course.
Were the 4 big hits in different cases or did you get 2 of them in 1 case?
Also the boxes that you hit the redemption autos in, did you get 3 autos in those boxes or just the stated 2 autos?
Andr3000
06-01-2023, 09:02 PM
In for 3 blasters at $25/per dlvd off eBay.
Hail2TheVictors
06-01-2023, 09:10 PM
So based on your amazing break, we should all expect to either get a Wemby SP, Wemby Auto or Scoot auto in a case! Lol j/k of course.
Were the 4 big hits in different cases or did you get 2 of them in 1 case?
Also the boxes that you hit the redemption autos in, did you get 3 autos in those boxes or just the stated 2 autos?
Good questions.
The redemption autos of Scoot and Wemby are an extra auto, which is nice. I hit the Edey orange shimmer auto and Wemby base redemption in the same box, lol.
2 Wemby autos were 1 ea in the first 2 cases, case 3 didn't have any of the big hits and then case 4 had the Scoot redemption and Wemby SSP base non auto.
dunkindutchmen
06-01-2023, 10:04 PM
Why in the world is the Wemby SSP faded out? Is this Topps or Panini printing these? FFS
ninjacookies
06-01-2023, 11:04 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/195797444312?hash=item2d966fe6d8:g:NuEAAOSwl9BkeRjw&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwCWBAiythxwvLzmSV4eLIpBGiLOH08b%2B0VpBqIQshPxUgrc%2FUEqOiUPjsib5tIgO2NMLNOygSPyv1pGbPm%2FCdmv6NYZaCwE9yvGD6uKvlz4VZ7YlKtN44IjyoSGJiOnZZ3kwFHeKPyoZZTLGvHUFPt5FQS0S6HsTuLcAYUtkSxq7fZDIBFprng%2Fotzjt6fye5zMjacDg6BZw984qQ3%2BNYyDJUBVdHOFBzpTuQv2cbPNDMfqi10MOXOfytvxQBnBQHA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR97ws6SPYg
Bless God.
https://media.tenor.com/OH7l8jyOBEoAAAAC/grand-salute-jerk-off.gif
Life is a crazy thing.
Lee42
06-02-2023, 12:59 AM
Sensational auto!
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hhMAAOSwfsNkeWE0/s-l500.jpg
Mattsurewood
06-02-2023, 04:34 AM
Couldn't agree more on the base SSP for Wemby and Scoot. It's super frustrating. They could've found a way to get more of them in there.
I was super stoked about the green Wemby redemption. The green is the one he inscribed "First Card I Ever Signed" which should mean that it sells a little higher than it otherwise would have. 1 in 99 shot of hitting that card.
Outside of the base SSP thing, I thought this stuff was really well done. I am guessing my haul was among the best I could've had, but overall I was pretty happy even without the Wemby redemptions honestly.
NICE pulls---YES the GREEN would be the huge lottery ticket redemption, 1 in 99 shot at the chase card...already one on eBay, will be interesting to see where it finishes.
Cojo4412
06-02-2023, 04:50 AM
Here's a link to the hobby box odds: https://twitter.com/cojobreaks/status/1664461962070089729?s=46&t=DHay9hVNOfjVvthsotG_og
cjmccreary
06-02-2023, 09:56 AM
Assume we will see it drop soon on Topps. Waiting room comes up on the homepage.
BayAreaChris
06-02-2023, 09:59 AM
Assume we will see it drop soon on Topps. Waiting room comes up on the homepage.
Twitter says Hobby was already on Fanatics st $180 and insta sold out. Value boxes at $25.
cjmccreary
06-02-2023, 10:02 AM
it's up
https://www.topps.com/cards-collectibles/2022-23-bowman-university-chrome-basketball-hobby-box.html
coltsnsox07
06-02-2023, 10:03 AM
$159 hobby box, limit 4 on Topps.
cjmccreary
06-02-2023, 10:04 AM
sucks you can't get a case .. missed the blowout deal
Malsk
06-02-2023, 10:07 AM
Cases are live also
cjmccreary
06-02-2023, 10:07 AM
Cases are live also
yep .. completely missed it
Bob Ross
06-02-2023, 10:11 AM
Grabbed 4. Why the hell not.
beens75
06-02-2023, 10:24 AM
Available on Fanatics for $159
https://www.fanatics.com/college/ncaa-merchandise/2022-23-bowman-chrome-university-basketball-factory-sealed-hobby-box/o-38+t-4578929350+p-3566663404677+z-9-2140568703?_ref=p-SRP:m-GRID:i-r6c1:po-19
5PERCFAN works for 5% off
Malsk
06-02-2023, 10:25 AM
When was the last time Topps had a waiting room last this long? Crazy.
slogue2
06-02-2023, 10:31 AM
Thanks for sharing the link!
bustsomewax
06-02-2023, 10:31 AM
It's a decent price, but probably where it should be considering the lack of Wemby/Scoot base and Wemby being a redemption (cant hold...)
vollybal
06-02-2023, 10:33 AM
Available on Fanatics for $159
https://www.fanatics.com/college/ncaa-merchandise/2022-23-bowman-chrome-university-basketball-factory-sealed-hobby-box/o-38+t-4578929350+p-3566663404677+z-9-2140568703?_ref=p-SRP:m-GRID:i-r6c1:po-19
5PERCFAN works for 5% off
Thanks!!! Grabbed 4 super quick and easy.
beens75
06-02-2023, 10:35 AM
Thanks!!! Grabbed 4 super quick and easy.
No problem! No sense in waiting when you can get it there instantly and get 5% off and earn fancash.
Bob Ross
06-02-2023, 10:35 AM
$1829-ish for a case shipped with coupon.
Tonic3
06-02-2023, 10:36 AM
Funny that BO is asking $2600/case. Gotta cash in on the hype......right ;)
Bob Ross
06-02-2023, 10:37 AM
Funny that BO is asking $2600/case. Gotta cash in on the hype......right ;)
Good job BO. Good luck!
caustic
06-02-2023, 10:41 AM
Grabbed 1 box, $157 shipped after coupon. Happy with that price especially if the Wemby Topps exclusive rumors turn out to be true.
Tonic3
06-02-2023, 10:44 AM
Tempting but I'm holding off. If the big names are that hard to hit it doesn't make sense to open these. Anybody outside of the big 2 or 3 names won't sell for more than a few dollars. Risk/reward is too high for me on this one but I wish you all the best of luck :)!
Malsk
06-02-2023, 10:46 AM
Anybody outside of the big 2 or 3 names won't sell for more than a few dollars.
Isn't that true for most products?
BayAreaChris
06-02-2023, 10:47 AM
$1829-ish for a case shipped with coupon.
Back to using fun coupons at Topps?
Chris P
06-02-2023, 10:49 AM
I took a gamble with 4 boxes from Fanatics..prolly the only hobby basketball stuff I'll open all year
vollybal
06-02-2023, 10:53 AM
I took a gamble with 4 boxes from Fanatics..prolly the only hobby basketball stuff I'll open all year
You and Me both...As they say, "Chip and a Chair"
Bob Ross
06-02-2023, 10:54 AM
Case OOS
I'll just buy a couple blasters to rip when they hit Target. Not gonna go all out for a rare chance at a SP or auto.
vollybal
06-02-2023, 11:00 AM
Sold Out on Fanatics...News gets out quick...haahaa
Brobocop
06-02-2023, 11:14 AM
My LCS is asking $219, yeah, that's gonna be a no from me dawg.
Bob Ross
06-02-2023, 11:50 AM
My LCS is asking $219, yeah, that's gonna be a no from me dawg.
Wonder what their cost was
Brobocop
06-02-2023, 11:51 AM
Wonder what their cost was
Good question but to be fair, they’re overpriced on every single product.
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Joshi City
06-02-2023, 12:50 PM
I'm surprised how many Wembanyama redemptions of this product and Inception are being posted. We know he signed, and I think buyers are generally more hesitant to buy redemptions as there is no way of knowing the quality of the card. Wouldn't the better play to be to redeem it and then sell (or grade)? Its not like his value is going to drop in the next three months, these should hold value ok until his NBA licensed rookie cards are released.
ricebellypanda
06-02-2023, 12:56 PM
I'm surprised how many Wembanyama redemptions of this product and Inception are being posted. We know he signed, and I think buyers are generally more hesitant to buy redemptions as there is no way of knowing the quality of the card. Wouldn't the better play to be to redeem it and then sell (or grade)? Its not like his value is going to drop in the next three months, these should hold value ok until his NBA licensed rookie cards are released.
Some people can't wait because they have to pay back their credit cards :D
90skid
06-02-2023, 01:15 PM
Just pulled @ Layton:
https://i.imgur.com/nybA6ujl.png
tempting to buy some boxes from topps but honestly I'm just telling myself it's gambling don't do it.
CTSportsboy57
06-02-2023, 01:21 PM
Grabbed a few loose packs from my LCS. Cards quality is pretty much on par with Chrome U Football. They look good. Pulled a lava DJ Horne auto /199.
kingb22
06-02-2023, 01:59 PM
Wonder what their cost was
Dealernet shows factory cost of $110. I have no idea if LCS pays that price or also a distributor markup too
glassofwater
06-02-2023, 02:00 PM
Did they run out of ink printing the wemby sp?
cj828282
06-02-2023, 02:13 PM
Looks like cases back up on Topps.
Brobocop
06-02-2023, 02:33 PM
Looks like the discount code doesn't work. Wonder if that's why they took the boxes and cases down for a bit?
Chris P
06-02-2023, 04:15 PM
Wow already got shipping notification on my 4 boxes from fanatics
kingb22
06-02-2023, 04:54 PM
Layton opened 5 full cases .. 1 Wemby auto.
slogue2
06-02-2023, 04:57 PM
Went to my LCS today to do a little bday rip. Notable hits below from 8 boxes:
Caitlin Clark - Purple Shimmer Ref (unnumbered)
Cam Whitmore - True Gold Ref /50
Cam Whitmore - Base Auto
Vincent Iwuchukwu - True Gold Ref Auto /50
Tyrese Hunter - Red Shimmer Ref /10
Kris Murray - Base Auto (My brother is a huge Iowa fan and he lost his shiz here)
Hansel Enmanuel - Raywave Ref Auto /199
Judah Mintz - Orange Ref Auto /25
Judah Mintz - Ref Auto /499
Hunter Dickinson - Green Ref Auto /99
Juju Watkins - Pink/Fuschia Sparkle Ref /150
Mark Mitchell - Skyscraping Insert Orange Ref Auto /25
Lauren Betts - Orange Ref /25
Really strong color. As others have noted, QC ain't super hot. Lots of little nicks and scratches on this 8 box journey. Such is life.
ninjacookies
06-02-2023, 06:56 PM
Trigger finger was itching on a few cases. But I'm already swimming in leftover BUC futbol americana bass.
BOL to everyone ripping.
exospheer
06-02-2023, 07:05 PM
Dereck Lively Superfractor 1/1 Auto was just hit on Jaspys.
dizzy4111
06-02-2023, 07:29 PM
Did they run out of ink printing the wemby sp?
Yeah that looks bad. Not sure what's going on there.
ZionCards
06-03-2023, 07:25 AM
Has anyone seen a wemby hit from a blaster? Are we sure they are even in them?
jdhaugh11
06-03-2023, 07:29 AM
Has anyone seen a wemby hit from a blaster? Are we sure they are even in them?
I wondered the same. Since he was a late edition, he might not have any SPs or autos in retail blasters.
GrangerCollectr
06-03-2023, 07:46 AM
Did a case yesterday at my LCS....top 3 hits were:
*Wemby Base Auto
*Wemby SP
*Anthony Black Gold Refractor Auto /50
ZionCards
06-03-2023, 09:11 AM
I got 8 blasters coming next week but am skeptical wemby even exists in them. Would be shady for them to advertise them on fanatics site with the blaster but it not even have them
jdhaugh11
06-03-2023, 11:26 AM
I got 8 blasters coming next week but am skeptical wemby even exists in them. Would be shady for them to advertise them on fanatics site with the blaster but it not even have them
My guess is that there are a few of his SPs and autos in the blasters, but just a handful, so odds will be nearly impossible.
jdhaugh11
06-03-2023, 11:28 AM
I have seen about a dozen Scoot Henderson redemption autos, but all of them are just the base.
Are there no parallels? Sure hope that's not the case.
Wiseysez
06-03-2023, 02:09 PM
Picked up 1 box from the lcs today @$179. 3 autos. Jalen Wilson lava, Matas Buzelis gold lava, and a Scoot redemption. Also had a Julian Phillips Big Kahuna and 3 color parallels.
ZionCards
06-03-2023, 02:27 PM
Watched a whole blaster case break. No wemby
jdhaugh11
06-03-2023, 02:32 PM
Picked up 1 box from the lcs today @$179. 3 autos. Jalen Wilson lava, Matas Buzelis gold lava, and a Scoot redemption. Also had a Julian Phillips Big Kahuna and 3 color parallels.
Don't open any more, you won't ever reach these heights again! Lol
Gurds
06-03-2023, 03:56 PM
I have seen about a dozen Scoot Henderson redemption autos, but all of them are just the base.
Are there no parallels? Sure hope that's not the case.Just saw on Instagram that someone at my LCS pulled a red redemption of scoot today.
Watched a whole blaster case break. No wemby
It wouldn't be the first time Topps forgot to add the SPs in product. I am holding off until I see one surface out of retail.
boxbuster7
06-03-2023, 05:18 PM
Layton opened 5 full cases .. 1 Wemby auto.
brutality :eek:
bustsomewax
06-03-2023, 06:15 PM
Watched a whole blaster case break. No wemby
That's not surprising though.
Can you recap the hits or post a link?
njsportscardguy
06-03-2023, 09:01 PM
Wow already got shipping notification on my 4 boxes from fanatics
Anybody happen to receive shipping notification from Topps yet....?!? I was in [fairly-early during initial drop ] for 2 boxes, and mine still shows as Processing.
Joshi City
06-03-2023, 10:21 PM
Opened my two cases.
The Good:
Wemby Redemption Auto
Scoot Redemption Auto (2)
Anthony Black Bowman 2009 Auto /99
Lively Auto /75
Cam Whitmore Auto /499
Brandon Miller Auto
Jarace Walker Bowman Invicta Auto /25
Jarace Walker Auto (2)
The Bad:
No Wemby Base
Only one Big Kahuna (Timme)
Only one card total under /10
Overall the Wemby auto makes it a success (combined with everything else) since I got the cases for $3,600 total. Disappointed not to get a Wemby base, those sure are SSP, and felt cheated out of a Kahuna but what can ya do. Tomorrow I will sift through the stacks and look for image variations, I believe I saw a Lively in there but was just focused on pulling out inserts and numbered cards on the first go-through and I don't know what the variations are off the top of my head.
gottagitdemjs
06-03-2023, 11:20 PM
Wish we knew the story on this base card SSP. NONE in two cases? No parallels. And if you can't get them in retail (or the odds must be extreme) then what are we talking here? A couple thousand copies?
bustsomewax
06-04-2023, 12:28 AM
Those base are going to be super tough pulls. Wish they would have made them at least a refractor instead of plain base.
njsportscardguy
06-04-2023, 09:47 AM
Did they run out of ink printing the wemby sp?
Nah. In celebration of the upcoming 30 year anniversary of Topps' first chromium product release, they tried their very bestest to replicate a....."30 year, faded chrome card look", on a new release. :D
But in all seriousness, one would have to think that this was NOT an intended or desired result on the part of Topps' production team..?? I'd reason to guess that since Wemby was a late-addition, SSP, that perhaps whatever...."technology" and/or "ingredients" go into the chromium-effect, manufacturing process, that perhaps they simply.....ran out....of the chemicals or additives used in the process??? Because, again; I just can't reasonably accept or believe that someone in QC and/or....some high ranking Fanatics/Topps exec would see a proof copy of that Wemby card, and have the inclination to say, "Yup! That looks AWESOME!! Run 'em!"
OR,....
maybe they used an alternate source to produce the Wemby cards...??
Regardless, if one of our sleuthing card-detectives were able to solve the riddle, I'd be extremely interested in hearing Topps' explanation as to why the Super Short Printed card of one of the most highly-coveted basketball players over the last 1/4 century, looks like....well,...CRAP!!
jdhaugh11
06-04-2023, 11:23 AM
Just saw on Instagram that someone at my LCS pulled a red redemption of scoot today.
Thanks for letting me know. This is still odd, because I see 20+ base autos listed or sold on ebay & not 1 parallel.
Maybe they only have red and Superfractor parallels then, because there should be a few of the Refractor autos by now if they actually existed.
Mattsurewood
06-04-2023, 11:34 AM
Thanks for letting me know. This is still odd, because I see 20+ base autos listed or sold on ebay & not 1 parallel.
Maybe they only have red and Superfractor parallels then, because there should be a few of the Refractor autos by now if they actually existed.
There's a green redemption on eBay now.
njsportscardguy
06-04-2023, 12:50 PM
Thanks for letting me know. This is still odd, because I see 20+ base autos listed or sold on ebay & not 1 parallel.
Maybe they only have red and Superfractor parallels then, because there should be a few of the Refractor autos by now if they actually existed.
Orange Auto
https://www.ebay.com/itm/295738037693?hash=item44db5c55bd%3Ag%3AzhsAAOSwMi1ke8Ri&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4FwBLI67wEv8FyGk0aN13FQB9cHqIYrRqdAbXWMMPoOEthkJ2rUMNOQ%2FVj33cVUkviYWN%2FZclzeVDO6DHF%2BKNg1R%2FyqpiloU9SQwY9R6vFF%2FklJoiGlZS6TGLfAM6%2ByaaVqpIpeGRxcCA6aK2onZD3RgTs95CK%2BG53PW65CxSwh4jVxNlBda2ctyduP3h5llggI%2BVC0bHaVDUSaxyQe2IpGu%2BH7TiXDzQhYtGnIKkFtsI7tylTYoBMzLWeJYgYytizU%2BPgb3TTGrpdhnE3fFmzF8AH%2F32pr7sllklnGnmjg5%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9a3ufiQYg&LH_Auction=1
Joshi City
06-04-2023, 01:02 PM
Do we know if Scoot has signed? I am going to redeem my two but was just wondering if I should expect a short or long wait. At least we know Wemby signed.
jdhaugh11
06-04-2023, 03:05 PM
There's a green redemption on eBay now.
I guess I just needed to ask and then they show up! Lol
It's like when a package is taking forever and as soon as I ask the seller, it shows up that day!
jdhaugh11
06-04-2023, 03:09 PM
If you pull a Scoot Henderson or Brandon Miller or any top prospect for this year's NBA draft, I would suggest holding them until the draft to sell. You will double the number of people looking or wanting them once we know what team they are on. It's just 18 days away, so not a long wait either.
bes04c9
06-04-2023, 05:04 PM
I haven’t seen Scoot’s pulled. Congrats on the tough pull.
Hail2TheVictors
06-04-2023, 08:45 PM
Opened my two cases.
The Good:
Wemby Redemption Auto
Scoot Redemption Auto (2)
Anthony Black Bowman 2009 Auto /99
Lively Auto /75
Cam Whitmore Auto /499
Brandon Miller Auto
Jarace Walker Bowman Invicta Auto /25
Jarace Walker Auto (2)
The Bad:
No Wemby Base
Only one Big Kahuna (Timme)
Only one card total under /10
Overall the Wemby auto makes it a success (combined with everything else) since I got the cases for $3,600 total. Disappointed not to get a Wemby base, those sure are SSP, and felt cheated out of a Kahuna but what can ya do. Tomorrow I will sift through the stacks and look for image variations, I believe I saw a Lively in there but was just focused on pulling out inserts and numbered cards on the first go-through and I don't know what the variations are off the top of my head.
In fairness, the "bad" list isn't bad at all. Wemby base is super tough, as I mentioned I only hit 1 in 4 cases. It's frustrating, but it jus "is what it is" imo. Big Kahuna's are 4solid hits, but it's not like they sell super well. I hit 2 Big Kahuna's in my 2 cases and it's just not a big deal in these Bowman U products. And you were lucky to hit a card /10. In my 4 cases the lowest #'d card I hit was to 10, and it was just 1 card.
DMarq Cards
06-04-2023, 11:45 PM
When will the blasters and megas end up in Walmart, Target, Meijers, etc? I see people mentioning retail but not a single store in Cincinnati has had any blasters or retail product since 6/2.
Allamericancard
06-05-2023, 12:21 AM
When will the blasters and megas end up in Walmart, Target, Meijers, etc? I see people mentioning retail but not a single store in Cincinnati has had any blasters or retail product since 6/2.
you won't see megas of this....Blasters are the only retail format....now as for if you should buy them....I've ripped 2 blaster cases. 1 auto in 8 boxes is about right, so for 1 auto at $240 or 2 autos guaranteed at $200ish, I'd go buy a hobby box all day
DMarq Cards
06-05-2023, 07:18 AM
Did you get the blasters online or did you buy them in a brick and mortar location? I still haven’t seen them in store anywhere. TIA!
Allamericancard
06-05-2023, 08:33 AM
Did you get the blasters online or did you buy them in a brick and mortar location? I still haven’t seen them in store anywhere. TIA!
topps direct account
bustsomewax
06-05-2023, 08:42 AM
you won't see megas of this....Blasters are the only retail format....now as for if you should buy them....I've ripped 2 blaster cases. 1 auto in 8 boxes is about right, so for 1 auto at $240 or 2 autos guaranteed at $200ish, I'd go buy a hobby box all day
How was the color in your cases?
redgem
06-05-2023, 08:48 AM
You can weigh the packs from the hobby boxes, the lighter ones by about 2-3 ounces have redemption cards in them. Those are the real hits. Maybe better suited for the Bowman University Inception set with the Wemby redemptions, since each case has 16 boxes, one pack per box, you can weigh the sealed boxes and open up only the lightest one, sell the rest.
dcarado
06-05-2023, 09:03 AM
You can weigh the packs from the hobby boxes, the lighter ones by about 2-3 ounces have redemption cards in them. Those are the real hits. Maybe better suited for the Bowman University Inception set with the Wemby redemptions, since each case has 16 boxes, one pack per box, you can weigh the sealed boxes and open up only the lightest one, sell the rest.
Perf. I was wondering what I was going to do with my kitchen scale since my moral compass wont let me shop at target anymore. Now to find a LCS that sells by the pack...
njsportscardguy
06-05-2023, 09:05 AM
You can weigh the packs from the hobby boxes, the lighter ones by about 2-3 ounces have redemption cards in them. Those are the real hits. Maybe better suited for the Bowman University Inception set with the Wemby redemptions, since each case has 16 boxes, one pack per box, you can weigh the sealed boxes and open up only the lightest one, sell the rest.
So essentially, what you're telling us, is; YOU'RE A PACK SEARCHER...??!
jlzinck
06-05-2023, 09:30 AM
You can weigh the packs from the hobby boxes, the lighter ones by about 2-3 ounces have redemption cards in them. Those are the real hits. Maybe better suited for the Bowman University Inception set with the Wemby redemptions, since each case has 16 boxes, one pack per box, you can weigh the sealed boxes and open up only the lightest one, sell the rest.
Well aren't you a special kind of scumbag.
Joshi City
06-05-2023, 09:32 AM
There is a reason I don't buy individual boxes from eBay and certainly wouldn't buy individual packs, never know who has weighed and at least tried to take out the hits. I didn't even know places sold just packs but I'd definitely avoid that if you can help it, unless its an LCS/business you really trust.
DrZman
06-05-2023, 09:38 AM
There is a reason I don't buy individual boxes from eBay and certainly wouldn't buy individual packs, never know who has weighed and at least tried to take out the hits. I didn't even know places sold just packs but I'd definitely avoid that if you can help it, unless its an LCS/business you really trust.
Yep exactly, can’t trust anyone unless you buy direct at this point between weighing and Paninis whole sticker fiasco. Funny my LCS had about 4-5 cases in and what do you know an employee took home one box and miraculously pulled the only Wemby auto.
BostonNut
06-05-2023, 09:46 AM
You can weigh the packs from the hobby boxes, the lighter ones by about 2-3 ounces have redemption cards in them. Those are the real hits. Maybe better suited for the Bowman University Inception set with the Wemby redemptions, since each case has 16 boxes, one pack per box, you can weigh the sealed boxes and open up only the lightest one, sell the rest.
Thanks for the tip!!
90skid
06-05-2023, 09:50 AM
What's everyone's thoughts on this SSP Wemby base... This is certainly a unique item here, i'll try to explain:
1. This is a tough case hit "base" card - will it be truly low population? Who knows. This is the first of it's kind equivalent to baseball's bowman 1st prospects... minus the "pro" jersey.
2. There are no parallels of it, it's simply one version of the card. All of the parallels seem to exist for the autograph card only. Plus the card has a unique finish to it unlike all the others in the set.
The main thing here is the concept of these bowman 1sts for basketball now - will this really catch on and become a new thing for rookie cards? Could this become "THE" rookie card for Wemby or will basketball collectors just consider whatever Fanatics/Panini makes in a Spurs jersey as the starting point for him (who knows what company will have permissions in the future here card making wise).
The main thing here is the concept of these bowman 1sts for basketball now - will this really catch on and become a new thing for rookie cards? Could this become "THE" rookie card for Wemby or will basketball collectors just consider whatever Fanatics/Panini makes in a Spurs jersey as the starting point for him (who knows what company will have permissions in the future here card making wise).
Seriously doubt that.
bustsomewax
06-05-2023, 10:05 AM
Seriously doubt that.
It could though...
Look at what Topps Chrome Curry's sell for with him just in a white shirt/jersey. We are in a weird transition period similar to what was going on back then with UD/Topps/Panini and NBA.
I wouldn't rule it out.
dcarado
06-05-2023, 10:17 AM
What's everyone's thoughts on this SSP Wemby base... This is certainly a unique item here, i'll try to explain:
1. This is a tough case hit "base" card - will it be truly low population? Who knows. This is the first of it's kind equivalent to baseball's bowman 1st prospects... minus the "pro" jersey.
2. There are no parallels of it, it's simply one version of the card. All of the parallels seem to exist for the autograph card only. Plus the card has a unique finish to it unlike all the others in the set.
The main thing here is the concept of these bowman 1sts for basketball now - will this really catch on and become a new thing for rookie cards? Could this become "THE" rookie card for Wemby or will basketball collectors just consider whatever Fanatics/Panini makes in a Spurs jersey as the starting point for him (who knows what company will have permissions in the future here card making wise).
That's the question. Pretty unique hobby situation as the model has already been proven in baseball, but now we have to wait and see if this translates to other sports. I personally think this could work for basketball, as more of the top players are now coming from international and g-league routes, which are technically professional leagues, instead of college which historically carries a bit of a stigma in the hobby. It's an evolving situation but you need a catalyst for it to become a thing, and Wemby definitely has the potential to be that catalyst. The only way this could've been more perfect hobby-wise would be to somehow reach into the hs ranks and get guys like Bronny.
It could though...
Look at what Topps Chrome Curry's sell for with him just in a white shirt/jersey. We are in a weird transition period similar to what was going on back then with UD/Topps/Panini and NBA.
I wouldn't rule it out.
Thats Topps Chrome and the product was NBA licensed. This is Bowman Chrome and not NBA licensed.
Chris P
06-05-2023, 10:30 AM
Thats Topps Chrome and the product was NBA licensed. This is Bowman Chrome and not NBA licensed.
Was going to say this as well
bustsomewax
06-05-2023, 10:31 AM
Thats Topps Chrome and the product was NBA licensed. This is Bowman Chrome and not NBA licensed.
Photoshopped uniforms though.
I get it's Bowman Chrome, but will Wemby have a true Topps Chrome rookie? Pretty sure the answer is 'No' to that.
Will he have a Prizm Rookie in his Spurs jersey next year? I genuinely don't know.
jdhaugh11
06-05-2023, 11:28 AM
There is a Red Auto /5 of Wemby listed on eBay for 45K obo.
I think there is a decent chance that it sells for 25-30K, what are your thoughts on what it will go for?
Will the SuperFractor auto go for 100K or more?
dcarado
06-05-2023, 11:41 AM
Photoshopped uniforms though.
I get it's Bowman Chrome, but will Wemby have a true Topps Chrome rookie? Pretty sure the answer is 'No' to that.
Will he have a Prizm Rookie in his Spurs jersey next year? I genuinely don't know.
I don't think the question is whether Bowman will overtake Prizm, but rather will the hobby value a "first card" alongside "true RC" the way baseball does. There has never really been a consistent first-card offering for basketball and football that was available much earlier than the true RCs. Leaf tried to capitalize on that gap but obviously has a very limited ceiling due to licensing and hobby appeal. If Bowman becomes the consistent first-card offering with players getting cards in some cases 1-2 years before Prizm RC, there's absolutely potential for those to hold significant value in relation to Prizm.
njsportscardguy
06-05-2023, 12:05 PM
Has anyone received their shipping notifications from Topps yet? I saw someone posted over the weekend that their order of (4) boxes from Fanatics, had shipped already?
vollybal
06-05-2023, 12:41 PM
Just got my fanatics order 4 boxes and ripped it...Nothing to write home about...No Wemby or Caitlin auto...Oh well...heehee it was fun to open at least!
Joshi City
06-05-2023, 12:41 PM
There is a Red Auto /5 of Wemby listed on eBay for 45K obo.
I think there is a decent chance that it sells for 25-30K, what are your thoughts on what it will go for?
Will the SuperFractor auto go for 100K or more?
I could be wrong but I don't think we'll see either card's true potential until they are redeemed. I don't track it specifically but in the past, cards that haven't been redeemed yet always take a hit in sale price since the higher rollers want to see the card's condition before committing an obscene amount of money to something. I'd be curious to see what the /5 for sells for as is, and then if another one sells once we have the cards in hand.
jdhaugh11
06-05-2023, 01:17 PM
I could be wrong but I don't think we'll see either card's true potential until they are redeemed. I don't track it specifically but in the past, cards that haven't been redeemed yet always take a hit in sale price since the higher rollers want to see the card's condition before committing an obscene amount of money to something. I'd be curious to see what the /5 for sells for as is, and then if another one sells once we have the cards in hand.
That is a good point. The only parallel redemption card that will sell for more is the green #/99, since you will have a 1 in 99 chance of getting the inscription version. I would have to imagine that the redemption turnaround time should be fairly quick, since he was shown signing them. Also they might all be on card unlike the rest of the set, so that could help with the sale price as well.
bustsomewax
06-05-2023, 01:29 PM
That is a good point. The only parallel redemption card that will sell for more is the green #/99, since you will have a 1 in 99 chance of getting the inscription version. I would have to imagine that the redemption turnaround time should be fairly quick, since he was shown signing them. Also they might all be on card unlike the rest of the set, so that could help with the sale price as well.
I think the Sell Sheet for the products mentions that Wemby autos are on-card. I take that to mean all of them, not just color.
rifleman69
06-05-2023, 03:14 PM
They put some blasters up on the Topps website. $24.99 a piece. Figured why not.
bustsomewax
06-05-2023, 08:13 PM
Still no shipping from Topps on my case order. Would think they'd get those out quickly
Brobocop
06-05-2023, 08:19 PM
Still no shipping from Topps on my case order. Would think they'd get those out quickly
Printing presses are probably just coming offline.
Allamericancard
06-05-2023, 11:30 PM
How was the color in your cases?
decent at best but nothing crazy....best card in case 1 was a Clark refractor.....2nd case....probably a Clark base lol
Slvnumber2
06-06-2023, 06:50 AM
Long term without the NBA license while this is a cool first card once Prizm, Optic, possibly topps stuff hits these IMO will have a big drop.
KhalDrogo
06-06-2023, 06:54 AM
Will he have a Prizm Rookie in his Spurs jersey next year? I genuinely don't know.
Unless Fanatics buys Panini America and scraps Prizm, he 100% will. For him not to have Panini cards, he’d have to opt out of the NBPA.
dunkindutchmen
06-06-2023, 07:03 AM
When is the first Wemby Panini card going to show up? Early 2024? What do you think will be happening to this card in Oct, Nov, Dec if he is playing well?
Peachcardsatl
06-06-2023, 07:21 AM
I would assume he would show up in chronicles draft picks and select draft picks later this year .
When is the first Wemby Panini card going to show up? Early 2024? What do you think will be happening to this card in Oct, Nov, Dec if he is playing well?
I hope theyve improved their product release calendar. I dont even remember when the pre-pandemic releases were. I dont think they can ever get back to normal. If anything they might be able to get some Instant releases in July or August.
cowboyzqna
06-06-2023, 07:43 AM
Just look at what his sports illustrated for kids cards are doing... anything wemby is going to have a high ceiling.
Next year is going to be alott of fun for breaks and collecting. Hopefully the prices are not out of control. Will be expensive but the question is how expensive.
ricebellypanda
06-06-2023, 08:26 AM
Still no shipping from Topps on my case order. Would think they'd get those out quickly
Yep. I paid for overnight for the first time because I was excited to rip but regretting it now.
sandlotsportcards
06-06-2023, 08:44 AM
Still no shipping from Topps on my case order. Would think they'd get those out quickly
I didn't buy a case, just a couple boxes and didn't buy from Topps because of their slow shipping despite having the product. I got my 2 from Fanatics and I had shipping notification the day I bought them. Tentatively should have them tomorrow.
Just look at what his sports illustrated for kids cards are doing... anything wemby is going to have a high ceiling.
Next year is going to be alott of fun for breaks and collecting. Hopefully the prices are not out of control. Will be expensive but the question is how expensive.
More expensive than ever before. Panini is going to markup that markup and then markup some more. It's unfortunately where we are at in the hobby.
njsportscardguy
06-06-2023, 12:28 PM
I reached out to Topps via their social media platforms, regarding their BULL POOP shipping fiasco with Bowman Chrome U Basketball. How in the world does Topps have EVERY SINGLE ORDER from Friday's release/offering....still in the "Processing" stage, yet....some Fanatics customers have already received their orders, and/or.....are expected to receive them in the next day or two...??!? It's absolutely irresponsible, careless, and a blatant..... EFF' YOU .....to the Topps customers! Especially, those unfortunate folks who chose the Overnight shipping option.
Is it conceivable that Topps oversold their hobby format, both box & case configurations....?? If we don't start to see shipping confirmations by tomorrow, my Spidey Senses are gonna' lead me to think that this might just be the issue!?! B&M shops, breakers, and virtually anybody & everybody in between, have had their product since last week!??! Yet, Topps, the manufacturer, has failed to ship-out product, direct to customer, 5 days AFTER,...a products actual street-arrival? Hmmm...?
RainCityShecks
06-06-2023, 01:07 PM
Keep coming here to see some sweet Wemby and Scoot cards - but only see complaining about shipping. I get it, but, we know who Topps is. I'll open tomorrow and post if I hit anything cool.
Joshi City
06-06-2023, 01:33 PM
Keep coming here to see some sweet Wemby and Scoot cards - but only see complaining about shipping. I get it, but, we know who Topps is. I'll open tomorrow and post if I hit anything cool.
Both are redemptions that aren't being accepted yet by the Topps site, do you just want pictures of all of our redemption cards :( I keep trying every day, I'm very excited to see mine in-hand (although I have no idea if Scoot has signed yet)
Bosoxfan5990
06-06-2023, 01:39 PM
I reached out to Topps via their social media platforms, regarding their BULL POOP shipping fiasco with Bowman Chrome U Basketball. How in the world does Topps have EVERY SINGLE ORDER from Friday's release/offering....still in the "Processing" stage, yet....some Fanatics customers have already received their orders, and/or.....are expected to receive them in the next day or two...??!? It's absolutely irresponsible, careless, and a blatant..... EFF' YOU .....to the Topps customers! Especially, those unfortunate folks who chose the Overnight shipping option.
Is it conceivable that Topps oversold their hobby format, both box & case configurations....?? If we don't start to see shipping confirmations by tomorrow, my Spidey Senses are gonna' lead me to think that this might just be the issue!?! B&M shops, breakers, and virtually anybody & everybody in between, have had their product since last week!??! Yet, Topps, the manufacturer, has failed to ship-out product, direct to customer, 5 days AFTER,...a products actual street-arrival? Hmmm...?
Topps has always had notoriously slow shipping.
Read the fine print with "Overnight" shipping. It mentions nothing about handling. Once it's actually shipped out is when the "Overnight" timer starts.
jdhaugh11
06-06-2023, 03:17 PM
I opened a full case & 1 box so far. While I didn't get a Wemby Auto, Wemby SP, Clark Auto, Clark parallel or Scoot Auto, I think I did pretty well.
The insert collation was really good, but the base was way off. While I did get 12 Caitlin Clark base cards, there were some people that I only got 2 copies of in 13 boxes!
I had 1 box that had 4 autos in it, so that was a nice surprise!
Here is what I got of note:
Purple Shimmer: Jett Howard, Brandon Miller, Tyrese Proctor & Matas Buzelis
Purple Diamonds /399: Jared McCain & JuJu Watkins
Lava /100: Anthony Black
Green Shimmer /99: Cam Whitmore
Yellow /75: Adam Flagler
Gold Shimmer /50: Brandon Slater
Base Autos: Brandon Miller (x2: Both in same box!), Cam Whitmore, Tyrese Proctor, Jared McCain (x2), JuJu Watkins
Refractor Autos /499: Hunter Dickenson & Ashlyn Watkins
Lava Autos /199: Lauren Betts, KD Johnson & Gradey Dick
Green Auto /99: Jaxon Kohler
Yellow Autos /75: Jaxon Kohler & Posh Alexander
Orange Auto /25: KD Johnson
Prime Signatures Autos /50: Mikey Williams (x2)
Big Kahuna Orange Refractor /25: Tyrese Proctor
Big Kahuna Auto /150: Brandon Miller (In loose box)
I got several duplicate autos, some different parallels & some the same. This seems to be a common theme for many cases people have shared online.
While I didn't get autos of the top 3 signers, I think I got 11 autos of the top 20 signers.
RainCityShecks
06-06-2023, 03:36 PM
No Wemby no Scoot. 2 Hobby boxes and one card worth posting:
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I also got a Drew Timme auto maybe I can sell to someone in Spokane.
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Joshi City
06-06-2023, 04:30 PM
Redemptions are able to be redeemed now! Faster than I was expecting.
BayAreaChris
06-06-2023, 05:17 PM
Fanatics has it back, but now $200!
ninjacookies
06-06-2023, 07:12 PM
Fanatics has it back, but now $200!
SSSSSSSSSSP Slenderman bass and Rubin still out here runnin the Martin Shkreli playbook.
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wxguy44
06-06-2023, 08:48 PM
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Results from two hobbies from Fanatics. Got an extra auto!
Autos:
Oscar Tshiebwe Invicta Orange /25
Lauren Betts Green /99
LJ Cryer Raywave /199
Kyle Filipowski
Trayce Jackson-Davis
Numbered:
Rasir Bolton Green Shimmer /99
Bruce Thornton Raywave /100
Jordan Walsh Skyscraping Aqua /150
Jalen Washington Aqua Wave /299
Purple Shimmer:
Makai Ashton-Langford
Will Richardson
sandlotsportcards
06-07-2023, 11:42 AM
Just finished 2 boxes that came from Fanatics
Autos: Matas Buzelis Base, Rasir Bolton Refractor 402/499, Kris Murray Refractor 275/499, Matas Buzelis Orange 22/25
Refractors: PJ Hall, JJ Starling, Zach Edey, LJ Cryer, Mike Miles, Caleb Love, Marcus Sasser, Dereck Lively
Color Refractors: Purple Shimmer Brandon Slater, Purple Shimmer Jalen Wilson, Purple Diamond Zach Edey 217/399, Purple Diamond Frankie Collins 272/399, Teal 160/299, Fuschia Diamond 096/150
Invicta: Jarace Walker, Arterio Morris, JJ Starling, Anthony Black
Bowman Refractor: Chance Westry, Dereck Lively, Mikey Williams, MJ Rice, Armando Bacot, Adam Flagler, Kel'El Ware, Marcus Sasser
Skyscraping: Chris Livingston, Brandon Miller, Mark MItchell, Amari Bailey, Armando Bacot, Kijani Wright
Mattsurewood
06-07-2023, 01:29 PM
Just finished 2 boxes that came from Fanatics
Autos: Matas Buzelis Base, Rasir Bolton Refractor 402/499, Kris Murray Refractor 275/499, Matas Buzelis Orange 22/25
Refractors: PJ Hall, JJ Starling, Zach Edey, LJ Cryer, Mike Miles, Caleb Love, Marcus Sasser, Dereck Lively
Color Refractors: Purple Shimmer Brandon Slater, Purple Shimmer Jalen Wilson, Purple Diamond Zach Edey 217/399, Purple Diamond Frankie Collins 272/399, Teal 160/299, Fuschia Diamond 096/150
Invicta: Jarace Walker, Arterio Morris, JJ Starling, Anthony Black
Bowman Refractor: Chance Westry, Dereck Lively, Mikey Williams, MJ Rice, Armando Bacot, Adam Flagler, Kel'El Ware, Marcus Sasser
Skyscraping: Chris Livingston, Brandon Miller, Mark MItchell, Amari Bailey, Armando Bacot, Kijani Wright
CONGRATS on the orange Buzelis! That could be big a year from now for sure if he stays on track...
bustsomewax
06-07-2023, 06:39 PM
Have ripped half my blaster case so far and it's been a lot of fun with some decent hits.
5 Autos so far
Makai Ashton Langford
Kiki Rice
Kris Murray
Chris Livingston Yellow /75
Ernest Udeh Jr Gold /50
Clark Pink, 5x Base, and a 2009
Brandon Miller Pink x2
Buzelis Pink x2
9 #d Base, the lowest to /100 (Starling), best maybe a Kyle Filipowski /125
slogue2
06-08-2023, 11:35 AM
Notables from another 4 boxes:
Brandon Miller Big Kahuna Auto /150
Amari Bailey Skyscraping Auto /150
Nick Smith Jr Refractor Auto /499
Tyrese Proctor Red Shimmer Refractor /10
Greenbee
06-08-2023, 03:07 PM
2 boxes - 5 autos. Hits below including Brandon Miller Big Kahuna auto /150 and Scoot Henderson Auto
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dunkindutchmen
06-08-2023, 03:41 PM
I'd love to know what the hell Topps is doing taking this long to ship.
slogue2
06-08-2023, 04:08 PM
I'd love to know what the hell Topps is doing taking this long to ship.
Just got the shipping notification for the cases I ordered.
bustsomewax
06-08-2023, 04:24 PM
Same here. Shipment on my cases. I actually asked them to cancel this morning seeing that we've already missed out on the early market sales.
Oh well. Looking forward to it.
Andr3000
06-08-2023, 04:40 PM
"Have ripped half my blaster case so far and it's been a lot of fun with some decent hits.
5 Autos so far
Makai Ashton Langford
Kiki Rice
Kris Murray
Chris Livingston Yellow /75
Ernest Udeh Jr Gold /50
Clark Pink, 5x Base, and a 2009
Brandon Miller Pink x2
Buzelis Pink x2
9 #d Base, the lowest to /100 (Starling), best maybe a Kyle Filipowski /125"
that seems pretty decent for blasters, right? decent amount of autos and numbered. no wembys.
got a few loose blasters to open tonight/tomorrow when I have time. hoping to hit me some Caitlin Clark especially.
Joshi City
06-08-2023, 04:40 PM
I know I shouldn't expect a miracle but I hope Topps is quick sending out Wemby autographs since he already signed, no need for them to wait six months.
bustsomewax
06-08-2023, 05:40 PM
"Have ripped half my blaster case so far and it's been a lot of fun with some decent hits.
5 Autos so far
Makai Ashton Langford
Kiki Rice
Kris Murray
Chris Livingston Yellow /75
Ernest Udeh Jr Gold /50
Clark Pink, 5x Base, and a 2009
Brandon Miller Pink x2
Buzelis Pink x2
9 #d Base, the lowest to /100 (Starling), best maybe a Kyle Filipowski /125"
that seems pretty decent for blasters, right? decent amount of autos and numbered. no wembys.
got a few loose blasters to open tonight/tomorrow when I have time. hoping to hit me some Caitlin Clark especially.
Yea, it was pretty solid. The 2nd half of case only had one Auto though, a Yellow /75, but 9 more #d cards and another Clark Pink.
So 6 Autos (3 Color) and 18 #d cards. Not bad for the price I paid during a sale.
I actually was also pretty close to making the complete pink set as well.
90skid
06-09-2023, 06:45 AM
It is absolutely mind boggling the premium that people are fetching on the Green /99 redemption card sales. All over that one inscripted card that is likely already claimed at this point.
njsportscardguy
06-09-2023, 09:07 AM
It is absolutely mind boggling the premium that people are fetching on the Green /99 redemption card sales. All over that one inscripted card that is likely already claimed at this point.
Call me a theorist of conspiracies,...call me "paranoid"; unless Fanatics/Topps goes ahead and does a formal, PR segment surrounding the [presuming, he exists?] lucky schlep who comes to be the possessor of the famous, "1st card I ever signed", card....I gotta' hunch that, much like you suggest (but by more dubious means & methods),....that sucker is already, looooonnnnnggggg accounted for!
spurs50fan
06-09-2023, 09:50 AM
Couple blasters cause I was curious... Slater auto, Caitlin base and Miller Pink were the nicer ones. Cards are very sharp overall
BayAreaChris
06-09-2023, 10:09 AM
Looks like the Topps orders shipped from the Fanatics warehouse in Ohio. Fanatics orders came from Florida.
Not sure why it took an extra week for the Topps orders to ship.
RainCityShecks
06-09-2023, 11:50 AM
2 boxes - 5 autos. Hits below including Brandon Miller Big Kahuna auto /150 and Scoot Henderson Auto
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Bro! You killed it. Scoot and Miller are AMAZING hits - you win this round vs. Topps.
bhundley
06-09-2023, 12:21 PM
Bought four boxes, ripped the first one and hit a Wemby base auto redemption and a Buzelis refractor auto. Feels like I should quit while I’m way ahead.
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