The official CJ Stroud hype thread - coming to a seam near you

[CarmenOhio]

https://youtu.be/8nH_9wU86o8

I don't expect much traction yet, but that will change. Can make every throw with consistency. Prefers to stay in the pocket (and on the field), and moves around it setting up protections like a seasoned vet. Already throws a more catchable ball than most pros.

Will need to process things a bit faster according to tests, but I think his pre-snap adjustments are fine. To maximize potential, he will need better receivers than the Texans currently possess. One tank season and he could reunite with Marvin Harrison Jr and set the league on fire. Way more upside than people think.

Elite ball placement allows him to exploit the seam over and over again, as linebackers often jump to knock down the pass, only to come up a few inches short every time. I expect growing pains in the seam during Year 1 as he adjusts to more athletic linebackers, but I'm confident he'll figure it out and continue exploiting the middle of the field by Year 2. Dawg mentality that got no press.

[chris_ac]

Living in H-Town, I'm all for CJ being the guy to lead this team to something new down the line (hopefully/optimistically). But the trash created by mismanagement and ownership, the team has consistent pot holes opening up.

Yes, I throw shoes at the TV every NFL draft when Houston does not take an elite WR or heaven forbid a real #1 TE. Once a decade do the Texans use a high pick on a WR. So this new QB will have similar issues as his predecessor. Worst offense for a reason. Need weapons seemingly every year and yet wonder why the team doesn't score too much. QB can elevate the existing skills but man devoid of talent is devoid of talent imho.

Hope for the best long road. Yes I was hoping in 1 highly unique timeline where they draft Harrison Jr. But lots of teams will wish and trading away their other 1st rounder was detrimental to that possibility. The pick they traded was their own? Not the Cleveland one? So tanking would not help.

[Wrong Lever]

Here’s hoping the Texans get the version of Stroud that played against Georgia. The guy was a lot of fun in college, but especially in his last game. It’s also really hard not to root for someone that came from nothing and beat the odds to make the NFL. Plus, Coleridge Bernard Stroud IV is a baller name, wish he’d go by that.

But also, there is some John Metchie slander in this post!!!! My guy beat leukemia, he going to beat zone coverage too! :flex:

(I may or may not have a bunch of John Metchie cards…)

[Grid]

I don't expect much traction yet, but that will change. Can make every throw with consistency. Prefers to stay in the pocket (and on the field), and moves around it setting up protections like a seasoned vet. Already throws a more catchable ball than most pros.

Will need to process things a bit faster according to tests, but I think his pre-snap adjustments are fine. To maximize potential, he will need better receivers than the Texans currently possess. One tank season and he could reunite with Marvin Harrison Jr and set the league on fire. Way more upside than people think.

Elite ball placement allows him to exploit the seam over and over again, as linebackers often jump to knock down the pass, only to come up a few inches short every time. I expect growing pains in the seam during Year 1 as he adjusts to more athletic linebackers, but I'm confident he'll figure it out and continue exploiting the middle of the field by Year 2. Dawg mentality that got no press.

That is a lot of hype, for a guy who has yet to take a snap in the NFL. Not saying anything negative about Stroud. But we have all seen this play out before.

The NFL is NOT the NCAA. Making plays against the best in the world, is not the same as besting 19 year old kids.

Everything you said above, was once said about Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russell, Todd Marinovich, Heath Shuler, Andre Ware, Akili Smith, Dan Mcgwire, Cade McNown, Tim Couch ETC

[JeremyNick]

I like CJ more than Bryce.

[hairysasquatch]

Is a seam like a crack?

[kluke84]

I think Texans surprise and get 6 or 7 wins this year. Stroud was very good in college with flashes of greatness. And Ryans seems like a proven leader to start the rebuild, and with a 6 yr contract, shouldn't have to be looking over his shoulder in year 1.

Compete with TN for #2 in division, and have a chance to get much more competitive with one more good draft.

Colts look like basement dwellers for a while.

Wonder if longneck is in the league in 2 yrs. Does have good accuracy considering the trash he played with. High end Mike Glennon backup?

[TheFrenzy]

Only the third QB to throw for 900 yards in their first three games.

Led the Texans to a great win today.

And yet, not a peep.

[jplarson]

Only the third QB to throw for 900 yards in their first three games.

Led the Texans to a great win today.

And yet, not a peep.

Too many OSU haters

[TheFrenzy]

Too many OSU haters

I mean, I hate anOSU.

But Stroud looks to be improving and the Texans might have something.

[Onepocketj]

Did a very good job today considering what the team is missing

[asujbl]

Only the third QB to throw for 900 yards in their first three games.

Led the Texans to a great win today.

And yet, not a peep.

“The outing made him the first quarterback in NFL history to have at least 900 passing yards, four pass touchdowns and zero interceptions in his first three career starts, according to ESPN Stats & Information research”

[Floridacardguy]

Did a very good job today considering what the team is missing

He's been really impressive. 4th highest pass attempts, and zero picks- 11th in QB rating, 11th in TD passes,

[chris_ac]

I really hope this continues and a sign of real promise. Running for his life at times and limited weapons imho and yet still making good decisions and taking advantage of what he can. Fingers crossed but impressive. Love watching coach Ryans pumped and energetic on the sideline with any good plays on both sides of the ball. Refreshing for this team as well. My father almost convinced himself they could make this division interesting this year as he watched Jax look oof. I stay grounded but player development is the important part right now with all wins adding to the foundation this season.

[Soxrule111]

I really hope this continues and a sign of real promise. Running for his life at times and limited weapons imho and yet still making good decisions and taking advantage of what he can. Fingers crossed but impressive. Love watching coach Ryans pumped and energetic on the sideline with any good plays on both sides of the ball. Refreshing for this team as well. My father almost convinced himself they could make this division interesting this year as he watched Jax look oof. I stay grounded but player development is the important part right now with all wins adding to the foundation this season.

While Im a Texans Homer, I thought they could make the division interesting. Mostly because I thought Colts Sucked, Titans Sucked and Trevor Lawrence is to Up/Down to trust to own the division. I thought 9 Wins could win it, and talked myself into the Texans could be in the 7/8/9 win Conversation and there for in the Division conversation.

That indy loss hurt though, I had the Texans taking both from Indy

[Joshi City]

I know college/unlicensed cards aren't as popular but some of these are so pretty. Personally I care more about on-card than I do NFL/licensed as long as it has a nice design, its very clean. Pulled this today:

https://i.imgur.com/NsX2mKx.jpg

Course, Smith-Njigba isn't pulling his weight yet, need him to step up.

[majestik101]

I'm shocked Onyx makes such a clean looking card. Somehow, I thought the Buckeyes were a trademarked thing that couldn't be used on an unlicensed product.

Still, a nice pull.

[Floridacardguy]

I know college/unlicensed cards aren't as popular but some of these are so pretty. Personally I care more about on-card than I do NFL/licensed as long as it has a nice design, its very clean. Pulled this today:

https://i.imgur.com/NsX2mKx.jpg

Course, Smith-Njigba isn't pulling his weight yet, need him to step up.

Very nice card

[meandsharon11]

He looks like a high floor rookie who is making progress. Best thing to look forward to in a long time for a Texans fan.

[Floridacardguy]

He looks like a high floor rookie who is making progress. Best thing to look forward to in a long time for a Texans fan.

Out of the limited bit we have seen of the big 3 (Stroud Richardson Young), he looks to be amongst the top half of that trio

[JeremyNick]

Out of the limited bit we have seen of the big 3 (Stroud Richardson Young), he looks to be amongst the top half of that trio

The top half of three?

So the best?

I’m having trouble mathing your sentence.

[jcardstore]

Out of the limited bit we have seen of the big 3 (Stroud Richardson Young), he looks to be amongst the top half of that trio

The top half of the trio is definitely a new phrase I've not heard before.

BO brain trust working overtime today

[Dbacksbaseball]

Stroud looks the part for sure. I am a Texans fan and was reluctant to take a OSU QB.

However, he's performed well, pretty much without 3/5th's of his OL. He should start getting those guys back this week (Tunsil) and next week (Howard).

Tank Dell looks like a legit piece with a mix of Brandin Cooks and Amon Ra in his game. Exciting player. Nico Collins finally has a QB that can get the ball accurately into the levels of his game that allow him to accel.

Team is still going to struggle on D, especially with Pitre and Stingley out. (Pitre back at practice yesterday). They will steal some wins this year, but I think next year firming up the LB, and adding to both lines, maybe a big WR probabaly signals the end of the rebuild and start of the new Texans.

[Floridacardguy]

The top half of the trio is definitely a new phrase I've not heard before.

BO brain trust working overtime today

So not a totally fair comparison with Richardson & Young having missed time is what I meant, but he's near the top of the list, just hard to compare since he hasn't missed time and they have. Maybe all 3 turn out to be great QB's. I still think Levis turns out to be the bust of the draft, I think we will see what he can do sooner rather than later because Tannehill is God awful

[cnewby]

Stroud looks the part for sure. I am a Texans fan and was reluctant to take a OSU QB.

However, he's performed well, pretty much without 3/5th's of his OL. He should start getting those guys back this week (Tunsil) and next week (Howard).

Tank Dell looks like a legit piece with a mix of Brandin Cooks and Amon Ra in his game. Exciting player. Nico Collins finally has a QB that can get the ball accurately into the levels of his game that allow him to accel.

Team is still going to struggle on D, especially with Pitre and Stingley out. (Pitre back at practice yesterday). They will steal some wins this year, but I think next year firming up the LB, and adding to both lines, maybe a big WR probabaly signals the end of the rebuild and start of the new Texans.

Tunsil is trending towards NOT playing this week.

[JeremyNick]

Tunsil is trending towards NOT playing this week.

Texans averaging over 3.5 sacks allowed per game.

Steelers averaging over 4 sacks per game.

Watt and Highsmith coming in hot and Tunsil looking to still be out.

CJ will need to shine.

[no10pin]

So not a totally fair comparison with Richardson & Young having missed time is what I meant, but he's near the top of the list, just hard to compare since he hasn't missed time and they have. Maybe all 3 turn out to be great QB's. I still think Levis turns out to be the bust of the draft, I think we will see what he can do sooner rather than later because Tannehill is God awful

Wouldn't being near the top of a list of 3 be the same as being near the bottom of the list?

[jplarson]

Wouldn't being near the top of a list of 3 be the same as being near the bottom of the list?

60% of the time you would be 100% correct.

[Dbacksbaseball]

Tunsil is trending towards NOT playing this week.

Correct, thought I saw him marked as Limited yesterday on the Practice Report. Will be a tough week to not have him.

[Floridacardguy]

Wouldn't being near the top of a list of 3 be the same as being near the bottom of the list?

No, not if he is tied for #1 or at #1

[Floridacardguy]

Texans averaging over 3.5 sacks allowed per game.

Steelers averaging over 4 sacks per game.

Watt and Highsmith coming in hot and Tunsil looking to still be out.

CJ will need to shine.

I think they need a lot of quick short passes, could be nice fantasy stats for Dell & Collins, lots of catches. Also, why are they not getting Pierce the ball through the air? Been hard running the ball with that O line but some short dump offs to him could be effective too

[JeremyNick]

I think they need a lot of quick short passes, could be nice fantasy stats for Dell & Collins, lots of catches. Also, why are they not getting Pierce the ball through the air? Been hard running the ball with that O line but some short dump offs to him could be effective too

This will not be the game to expect success in the trenches offensively.

[no10pin]

No, not if he is tied for #1 or at #1

Well, if he's tied for #1, then he's only one spot from being last.

[asujbl]

C.J. Stroud is the first rookie since the 1970 merger with 250 passing yards, 2 passing touchdowns and 0 interceptions in 3 straight games.

[Floridacardguy]

This will not be the game to expect success in the trenches offensively.

It was a piece of cake for Stroud!

[Floridacardguy]

C.J. Stroud is the first rookie since the 1970 merger with 250 passing yards, 2 passing touchdowns and 0 interceptions in 3 straight games.

I was saying back pre-draft this kid should have been the #1 overall pick and he's playing like it

[gopowergoh]

Texans gotta thank Davis Mills for that last second touchdown last year

[JeremyNick]

It was a piece of cake for Stroud!

Texans coaches did circles around the Steelers coaches.

Rookie QB getting the ball out super quick.
So instead of jamming the WRs at the line, they back the DBs off. That game was there for the taking and they just crapped the bed.

I can’t even begin to voice my disgust.

That being said, Stroud was accurate and decisive.

[Floridacardguy]

Texans coaches did circles around the Steelers coaches.

Rookie QB getting the ball out super quick.
So instead of jamming the WRs at the line, they back the DBs off. That game was there for the taking and they just crapped the bed.

I can’t even begin to voice my disgust.

That being said, Stroud was accurate and decisive.

Each week he seems to get more comfortable like the game is slowing down too

[JeremyNick]

Each week he seems to get more comfortable like the game is slowing down too

I can confidently tell you that you should not look more into that game than he was accurate and decisive.

Steven Freakin Nelson said that his early game INT was from film study. It was the exact play they ran for the Austin TD last week. They ran the same play week 2 as well. That’s the same play 3 weeks in a row with almost no variation. When a scrub DB like Nelson knows your play calls because you run the same ones week in and week out, you suck as a coach.

Pat Pete said it was basically the Niners gameplan, adjusted for their offense. So admittedly they have faced a similar gameplan twice now defensively, made zero adjustments and gave up 60+ points.

Unfortunately I could go on and on pointing out how terribly unprepared the coaching has been over this 4 game span.

Like did you know Matt Canada ran the same play 9 times against the Niners? 7 incompletions, 1 INT and 1 reception for 10 towards. That reception came on the final drive. That means he ran a play unsuccessfully 8 times over 3 quarters and he thought, “hey let’s try that again”.

Serenity now.

[kluke84]

Very impressed he is playing behind 4 backup OL's and got zero sacks in both. Accuracy will get better, but him and Nico look to be gelling well. All this behind a rookie defensive HC makes it even better.

[Floridacardguy]

Very impressed he is playing behind 4 backup OL's and got zero sacks in both. Accuracy will get better, but him and Nico look to be gelling well. All this behind a rookie defensive HC makes it even better.

Yeah, that O line has been rough- just ask Pierce, the guy has literally had defenders in the backfield with him as soon as he touches the ball. Once that O line is healthy and/or upgraded, Stroud(and Pierce too)should do even better

[kluke84]

Yeah, that O line has been rough- just ask Pierce, the guy has literally had defenders in the backfield with him as soon as he touches the ball. Once that O line is healthy and/or upgraded, Stroud(and Pierce too)should do even better

Yeah, AFC S may have 3 franchise QB's and Will Levis to look forward to for the next decade. Exciting times for a doormat division.

[hairysasquatch]

Better in the NFL than he was in college

[graffiX]

I was saying back pre-draft this kid should have been the #1 overall pick and he's playing like it

Yeah I am far from a QB Scout on talent, but I thought he looked like the best QB coming out of the draft this year. So far, he's proving it.

[Floridacardguy]

Yeah I am far from a QB Scout on talent, but I thought he looked like the best QB coming out of the draft this year. So far, he's proving it.

I thought him and Bryce were very similar but there was a big height advantage for Stroud which was why I leaned towards him, but a lot of people got hung up on the test scores

[graffiX]

I thought him and Bryce were very similar but there was a big height advantage for Stroud which was why I leaned towards him, but a lot of people got hung up on the test scores

Bryce is too small. It's like people mention it but are afraid to say it's critically important. Kyler Murray is too small and he's already breaking down as well. Bryce didn't even make it 3 games in and he's hurt (yes, the O line is bad). You can have all the talent in the world, but if you can't withstand the physical punishment, you'll be done a few years in.

If the Panthers are garbage again this year (which looks like they will be), they should draft a QB high. But they won't and they'll be sorry they didn't when it's obvious Bryce can't play in the NFL.

EDIT: Nevermind. I forgot the Panthers don't have a 1st rounder this year.

[brothertona]

Unfortunately it seems he won't have autos this year with the Panini case still going on

[Floridacardguy]

Bryce is too small. It's like people mention it but are afraid to say it's critically important. Kyler Murray is too small and he's already breaking down as well. Bryce didn't even make it 3 games in and he's hurt (yes, the O line is bad). You can have all the talent in the world, but if you can't withstand the physical punishment, you'll be done a few years in.

If the Panthers are garbage again this year (which looks like they will be), they should draft a QB high. But they won't and they'll be sorry they didn't when it's obvious Bryce can't play in the NFL.

EDIT: Nevermind. I forgot the Panthers don't have a 1st rounder this year.

Agreed. The height makes a big difference, even if you are 6ft it makes a big difference. As for Murray, he's fun to watch, but at the end of the day, not very good in my opinion. Personally, I like both the Dobbs kid and Clayton Tune. I'd like to see both of them starting someplace whether it's in Arizona or elsewhere

[Floridacardguy]

Wow Stroud in some great company
CJ Stroud is only the 6th player in NFL history to average 300 pass YDs and have 0 INTs through the first 4 games in a season ��

Elite company �� the first 5 guys to do it are sure fire hall of famers

[JWBlue]

Unreal this guy hasn't been bumped for a month.

[SleeperCards]

Unreal this guy hasn't been bumped for a month.

LOL I even searched, thought for sure if there was a thread it would have showed up, I guess not getting bumped for a month will do that.

[TheFrenzy]

Unreal this guy hasn't been bumped for a month.

That's because no one around here "invested" in him or was "scooping up his cards dirt cheap."

If there's nothing to brag about on Blowout, then there's nothing to discuss.

[Siberian13]

LOL I even searched, thought for sure if there was a thread it would have showed up, I guess not getting bumped for a month will do that.

Blowouts search feature is as bad as their prices :)

[asujbl]

Ohio State is garbage

[Edreedballhawk]

That's because no one around here "invested" in him or was "scooping up his cards dirt cheap."

If there's nothing to brag about on Blowout, then there's nothing to discuss.

I have him on my fantasy team, does that count?

[kluke84]

That's because no one around here "invested" in him or was "scooping up his cards dirt cheap."

If there's nothing to brag about on Blowout, then there's nothing to discuss.

Correct. More fun to degen on Clayton Tune and Bagent I guess.

[TheFrenzy]

LOL I even searched, thought for sure if there was a thread it would have showed up, I guess not getting bumped for a month will do that.

If only there was an index (https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1557287) for these threads..... ;) :p

[SleeperCards]

That's because no one around here "invested" in him or was "scooping up his cards dirt cheap."

If there's nothing to brag about on Blowout, then there's nothing to discuss.

Clayton Tune thread had as much action, most of it probably due to dislike of OP.

[TheFrenzy]

Correct. More fun to degen on Clayton Tune and Bagent I guess.

Hey now, Bagent is an absolute nobody. It's totally cool to root for him.

[majestik101]

Ohio State is garbage

And there it is

[SleeperCards]

If only there was an index (https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1557287) for these threads..... ;) :p

Maybe you should request it to be stickied.

[TheFrenzy]

Rank the following: What is the quickest way to drive traffic to a player thread?

A) The player performs exceptionally well on the field.

B) The player performs exceptionally poor on the field.

C) The OP of the player's thread is an arse.

D) The player dies.

[majestik101]

Maybe you should request it to be stickied.

Maybe you should try harder

[majestik101]

Rank the following: What is the quickest way to drive traffic to a player thread?

A) The player performs exceptionally well on the field.

B) The player performs exceptionally poor on the field.

C) The OP of the player's thread is an arse.

D) The player dies.

:cry:

[TheFrenzy]

:cry:

The correct answer is: B-D-C-A

[asujbl]

And there it is

You’re so easy to manipulate

[kluke84]

Hey now, Bagent is an absolute nobody. It's totally cool to root for him.

True, but his Score Red Zone Auto sold a week ago for $400+. Peak insanity.

You are correct on the 'invest' part. Guess there are a ton of Purdy buyers when CJ looking like a keeper.

[TheFrenzy]

You’re so easy to manipulate

Rank to following Blowout members according to how easy it is to manipulate them....

[asujbl]

Rank to following Blowout members according to how easy it is to manipulate them....

Now that’s a legit poll

[TheFrenzy]

True, but his Score Red Zone Auto sold a week ago for $400+. Peak insanity.

Nah bro. Bagent could be the next Brady. Better load up now.

*vomits*

You are correct on the 'invest' part. Guess there are a ton of Purdy buyers when CJ looking like a keeper.

It's amazing the convictions we form as collectors and fans on unreasonably small sample sizes.

"College X never produces QB talent" based on, like, three or four guys who still had semi-decent pro careers.

[TheFrenzy]

Now that’s a legit poll

It would just be BNut swearing up and down that it was everyone else but him despite the poll showing him with 142 votes.

[majestik101]

You’re so easy to manipulate

You're mistaking me for a fan of Ohio State. Could CJ Stroud be the greatest quarterback to ever come out of that college?

Or will he be the next Mike Tomczak?

[TheFrenzy]

You're mistaking me for a fan of Ohio State. Could CJ Stroud be the greatest quarterback to ever come out of that college?

Or will he be the next Mike Tomczak?

What about the next Arch Manning?

I'm hearing from reliable sources that Manning is already a bust.

[asujbl]

You're mistaking me for a fan of Ohio State. Could CJ Stroud be the greatest quarterback to ever come out of that college?

Or will he be the next Mike Tomczak?

Nope. You and I are good currently. Thumbs up

[majestik101]

Nope. You and I are good currently. Thumbs up

Right back at ya :)!

[corndog]

Awesome game for C.J. and the Texans!

Even had a field goal by running back Dare Ogunbowale!

:flex:

[TheFrenzy]

Awesome game for C.J. and the Texans!

Even had a field goal by running back Dare Ogunbowale!

:flex:

We've got a corndog sighting in the Football forum!

[netmasters]

Does anyone know how rare these Panini Black Vanta case hits are? This one ends tonight and I am trying to figure out what to bid.

2023-24 Panini Black C.J. Stroud Vanta Case Hit (https://ebay.us/gybvRl)

[tconte]

I have zero Stroud cards but he's my fantasy QB starter now after drafting him as my
backup to the bum Trveor Lawrence. I started using him a couple weeks ago and I'm super
happy today. lol

[jplarson]

Rank the following: What is the quickest way to drive traffic to a player thread make a sale?

A) The player performs exceptionally well on the field.

B) The player performs exceptionally poor on the field.

C) The OP of the player's thread is an arse.

D) The player dies.

Modified to ask a hard hitting question. And for some, it's D-A-B-C.

[zakcollects]

https://i.ibb.co/MC5MtK5/PXL-20231105-202416710.jpg

I was opening a Blaster during the game which made it extra incredible.

[par578]

Just a great game today. Fun to watch.

[CarmenOhio]

Told y'all he had a dawg mentality. CJ is made of the right stuff to succeed in this league for a long time. Totally immune to high pressure moments. Just ordered a Stroud Buckeyes jersey.

[TheFrenzy]

Told y'all he had a dawg mentality. CJ is made of the right stuff to succeed in this league for a long time. Totally immune to high pressure moments. Just ordered a Stroud Buckeyes jersey.

Whether Stroud ends up dominating or fading away, this is an awesome post.

[kluke84]

Getting this subbed to PSA tomorrow in my next ship. Decent chance at a 10, likely 9. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231106/6a40bf0add7dba9037a2054f0d67b514.jpg

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[DMACcollector]

Gotta admit, I really didn’t think he would pan out. Boy was I wrong. He looks like a bonafide franchise QB that gets the best out of his WRs. Texans’ future is bright.

[JWBlue]

Houston's schedule down the stretch is Charmin soft. More fireworks coming.

[JeremyNick]

He’s the Best Buy in the NFL right now.

[jplarson]

I'm Calling it here first folks. Sell em if you got em, rebuy after a bad week or injury for 2023. To the moon in 12-18 months.

[Boo]

Bunch of NN trying to make the Call here, BBases would have made it weeks ago.

[JeremyNick]

Bunch of NN trying to make the Call here, BBases would have made it weeks ago.

Go call someone who cares.

[jplarson]

Bunch of NN trying to make the Call here, BBases would have made it weeks ago.

Did you know he made The Call about Brady while still in the womb? Then as an 8-year old he saw Brady go down with a knee injury and he made a second Call stating he would bounce back with 4 Super Bowl wins.

[TheFrenzy]

Really wish we'd gotten a "Bust...Backup...Starter...Pro Bowler...HOFer" poll at the start of this thread.

I'll raise my hand and say I would have voted "Bust."

[glassofwater]

Topps now auto

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[Asian62150]

Any guesses where the sell-out price will land?

They timed this one well.

[Floridacardguy]

Great looking card

[Floridacardguy]

Never done one of these kind of auctions do you just buy it now at a price that is to your liking and hope that it doesn't sell out before it hits your price?

[Asian62150]

Never done one of these kind of auctions do you just buy it now at a price that is to your liking and hope that it doesn't sell out before it hits your price?

Pretty much.

But the way a Dutch Auction is supposed to work is you lock in your order anytime before it sells out and whatever the lowest price is when it officially sells out is the price everyone that placed an order gets it for.

So if you placed the order in at the start for $2500 but it eventually sells out at $500...you get it for $500.

[Rare Soccer IG]

Pretty much.

But the way a Dutch Auction is supposed to work is you lock in your order anytime before it sells out and whatever the lowest price is when it officially sells out is the price everyone that placed an order gets it for.

So if you placed the order in at the start for $2500 but it eventually sells out at $500...you get it for $500.

That's not true. Im sure its whatever price you lock that's what you pay!

[Floridacardguy]

Pretty much.

But the way a Dutch Auction is supposed to work is you lock in your order anytime before it sells out and whatever the lowest price is when it officially sells out is the price everyone that placed an order gets it for.

So if you placed the order in at the start for $2500 but it eventually sells out at $500...you get it for $500.

crap that makes me nervous locking into $2500 what if it never gets below $1000 yikes

[Rare Soccer IG]

Pretty much.

But the way a Dutch Auction is supposed to work is you lock in your order anytime before it sells out and whatever the lowest price is when it officially sells out is the price everyone that placed an order gets it for.

So if you placed the order in at the start for $2500 but it eventually sells out at $500...you get it for $500.

You are very wrong. Hope you didn't buy at max, or cause anyone to buy at max.

Dutch Auction. In a “Dutch” auction, products will be made available at a “starting price” when the auction begins which is the highest possible price for a bid. The price will then reduce by specified dollar amounts in increments of time (e.g., $25 every 5 minutes) until the product is sold out or until the auction price reaches the specified “floor” price which is the lowest possible price possible bid price. Bidding price is determined at the moment an item is added to the cart, not when checkout is complete. Bid checkouts completed after the product has sold out or after auction has ended may be rejected or later cancelled. We may limit the number of boxes or cases per transaction and/or number of transactions per customer.


Bidding on an item is an offer to buy the item at the price in the bid, plus any applicable shipping and/or handling fees, as well as any applicable sales, use or other similar taxes. You must create an account or have an active account in order to place a bid for an Auction. To the extent you have not already provided your credit card information to us in your account, you must provide your credit card information in your account at the time you place a bid and the credit card you provide or that is your then-current default payment in your account will be charged at the close of the Auction if you are a winning bidder.


Auctions may be subject to a “reserve price,” which is a minimum amount that must be bid in order for the item to be sold in the auction, in our sole discretion. The applicability of a reserve price to the Auction will be posted in the item listing. Only bids placed at or above the reserve price are eligible to win the auction. If the reserve price is not met by the time the auction ends, there will be no winner of the auction.

[Rare Soccer IG]

crap that makes me nervous locking into $2500 what if it never gets below $1000 yikes

he is wrong. The price you checkout is the price you pay.

[AwesomeBrian]

Hideous card, even more disgusting starting price.

[Asian62150]

That's not true. Im sure its whatever price you lock that's what you pay!

Right. That's how Panini and Topps/Fanatics have it set up.

I'm saying the current way is not how it is supposed to work. Sorry for the confusion.

[yc85]

Pretty much.

But the way a Dutch Auction is supposed to work is you lock in your order anytime before it sells out and whatever the lowest price is when it officially sells out is the price everyone that placed an order gets it for.

So if you placed the order in at the start for $2500 but it eventually sells out at $500...you get it for $500.

No.

You pay the price you check out with. You can gamble and wait around for it to keep getting lower, but you risk it being sold out if you wait around too long.

[Chris P]

he is wrong. The price you checkout is the price you pay.


I believe he's explaining what a true dutch auction is. This isn't a true dutch auction. It's just like Panini's version

[Rare Soccer IG]

Right. That's how Panini and Topps/Fanatics have it set up.

I'm saying the current way is not how it is supposed to work.

You are discussing a dutch auction for one product, when its multiple the way Topps and panini do it is correct.

[Floridacardguy]

Hideous card, even more disgusting starting price.

I actually like it. Plus it specifically recognizes his achievement during his rookie season

[Chris P]

No.

You pay the price you check out with. You can gamble and wait around for it to keep getting lower, but you risk it being sold out if you wait around too long.


Again..he's explaining how a dutch auction is supposed to work. This isn't a true dutch auction

[Asian62150]

Again..he's explaining how a dutch auction is supposed to work. This isn't a true dutch auction

Thank you @Chris P

[Floridacardguy]

You are discussing a dutch auction for one product, when its multiple the way Topps and panini do it is correct.

No matter what I am not checking out at $2000, if I miss out, I miss out

[Rare Soccer IG]

I believe he's explaining what a true dutch auction is. This isn't a true dutch auction. It's just like Panini's version

ok my mistake I retract all my messages

[Floridacardguy]

So they show 4 different colors. Does that mean each version will go to number 199 or less, and that there are really up to 800 of these?
Personally like the Red team match version best

[kluke84]

Hideous card, even more disgusting starting price.

It is hideous but already dropped to 1500 and at least cool you may get a low serial #....if this is your thing.
Also for the 'flippers' bidding on this for a quick buck, 'turnaround time expected to be 16-20 weeks'.

[Floridacardguy]

It is hideous but already dropped to 1500 and at least cool you may get a low serial #....if this is your thing.

If you buy it at the higher price early, do you get the corresponding #? Like if the first person to buy it- would they get 1/199?

[Rare Soccer IG]

So they show 4 different colors. Does that mean each version will go to number 199 or less, and that there are really up to 800 of these?
Personally like the Red team match version best

/199 Foil Border
/99 Black Foil
/75 Green Foil
/49 Blue Foil
/25 Purple Foil
/10 Red Foil
/7 Blue and Red Foil
/5 Orange Foil
/1 Gold Foil

[Chris P]

So they show 4 different colors. Does that mean each version will go to number 199 or less, and that there are really up to 800 of these?
Personally like the Red team match version best

No there are actually 9 differenr colors all numbered from 199 down to 1. You can find the info on the description drop down

[Asian62150]

If you buy it at the higher price early, do you get the corresponding #? Like if the first person to buy it- would they get 1/199?

No. Supposedly it is all random, regardless of when you purchase.

[Chris P]

If you buy it at the higher price early, do you get the corresponding #? Like if the first person to buy it- would they get 1/199?

No its random..you get a pack with a random numbered card

[Floridacardguy]

/199 Foil Border
/99 Black Foil
/75 Green Foil
/49 Blue Foil
/25 Purple Foil
/10 Red Foil
/7 Blue and Red Foil
/5 Orange Foil
/1 Gold Foil

Oh got it, so totally random.
The 16-20 week wait time sucks

[glassofwater]

Oh got it, so totally random.
The 16-20 week wait time sucks

Topps has been pretty good at shipping before look at wemby and draft day autos

[yc85]

Picked up a few base cards with topps now coupons that I'd never use otherwise

[Floridacardguy]

Topps has been pretty good at shipping before look at wemby and draft day autos

Good to know, one way or another this CJ card, or another one, I am adding at least one more to the collection today courtesy of Keaton Mitchell

[Floridacardguy]

Guesses where this card winds up? $300ish? $500?

[notoriousrmb]

Topps has been pretty good at shipping before look at wemby and draft day autos

Look at Bob Ross. Going to blow that window by almost a month.

New wax is received well after release day.

Topps has actually been awful at shipping lately.

[itsbaytime]

They tapped out at 700. Did anyone get one?

[Floridacardguy]

They tapped out at 700. Did anyone get one?

That is insane. Would have been cool to get one, but there are some really nice Stroud autos avail for $700. I was going to try and snag one just above $500

[baxiom]

Can someone explain the math for why sellers are flipping cards like this on ebay? on Topps it's $18/card but they're pre-selling them for $14.95/card with free shipping. Even if you buy the 20 card bulk option, that's $10/card, with free s/h you're still losing about a $1.12 a card not counting supplies or taxes. Unless you're guaranteed a lower serial number when buying bulk to offset the loss or you're just claiming large losses on your taxes, random question just curious.

[zworykin]

I was also considering grabbing one at 500 if it got there. Oh well. I won't shed a tear that it didn't.

[par578]

Was hoping for 300.00. Unrealistic, I know.

[itsbaytime]

Can someone explain the math for why sellers are flipping cards like this on ebay? on Topps it's $18/card but they're pre-selling them for $14.95/card with free shipping. Even if you buy the 20 card bulk option, that's $10/card, with free s/h you're still losing about a $1.12 a card not counting supplies or taxes. Unless you're guaranteed a lower serial number when buying bulk to offset the loss or you're just claiming large losses on your taxes, random question just curious.

Coupons and possible parallels. I would also guess the Topps Now Platinum Club or whatever it's called gets points/bonuses and/or a better discount?

[kabe586]

Can someone explain the math for why sellers are flipping cards like this on ebay? on Topps it's $18/card but they're pre-selling them for $14.95/card with free shipping. Even if you buy the 20 card bulk option, that's $10/card, with free s/h you're still losing about a $1.12 a card not counting supplies or taxes. Unless you're guaranteed a lower serial number when buying bulk to offset the loss or you're just claiming large losses on your taxes, random question just curious.

I have wondered this myself. I think people are taking the shot at buying in bulk and hitting a few low numbered cards worth money. They can sell the rest at lose to beak-even prices.

[Floridacardguy]

Its now down to $650

[RollBamaRoll]

So they stopped the auction, then started it again? Down to $600

[par578]

Started up again?

[itsbaytime]

Really? I see it is there at 550. Weird.

[Chris P]

Its acting weird on my phone. I see $500 but no buy button. Then i went back and it was at $2500

[Floridacardguy]

Its acting weird on my phone. I see $500 but no buy button. Then i went back and it was at $2500

Yeah you think when it ended that they would mark it sold out. It still shows as avail at $500 but timer has stopped and no bidding mechanism. I think they are pausing it trying to let people try and jump in because maybe it was not selling as high as they hoped

[AwesomeBrian]

$450 now. No timer since $650 for me. Desperation 'Last Chance' email just went out for it

[RainCityShecks]

I just put one in my cart at 450 and it's letting me buy???? it appears? i'm not buying. FYI

[asujbl]

That's not true. Im sure its whatever price you lock that's what you pay!

It’s exactly how a Dutch auction works

[Floridacardguy]

Officially done at $400 I was gonna take a shot and see if I could get it $350

[RainCityShecks]

Hmm. Says 400 w/ no option to buy now. Still seems like too much for a Topps Now card that really anyone can just step up and buy if they really wanted to (at a little higher price of course). Overall the concept seems lame. These cards just playing to the FOMO (NOW!!!!!!). To me a Topps Now will never beat the sweetness of a pack pulled nice low #'s card or auto of a guy you've been searching for.

[Floridacardguy]

I just picked up 10 of the non autos, and hope for one being SSP

[zworykin]

I would also guess the Topps Now Platinum Club or whatever it's called gets points/bonuses and/or a better discount?

Negative. Early access to buy one of each baseball auto/relic card before it's put on the public site, and a few freebies throughout the year. That's it.

[Siberian13]

Good to see Ohio State pump out a decent qb for once. Now I just wish the Falcons drafted him instead of a rb

[Floridacardguy]

Somebody already has the Stroud that was on auction today listed for $2000 OBO

[zworykin]

Negative. Early access to buy one of each baseball auto/relic card before it's put on the public site, and a few freebies throughout the year. That's it.

Ok, well, apparently an unintended perk on this one too, as it turns out. LOL.

Yesterday in a Dutch auction, we offered an on-card autograph, one-card pack /199 & below (/199, /99, /75, /49, /25, /10, /5, /1) for CJ Stroud’s epic 470-yard, 5 TD performance in the Texans come from behind, last second comeback victory.

Due to technical difficulties with the auction functionality, we do have inventory remaining that we are offering to our platinum members at a price of $399.99/pack.

This will be a first-come-first-serve, limit of three autograph packs while supplies last.

[majestik101]

Somebody already has the Stroud that was on auction today listed for $2000 OBO

Good for that guy

[waulk11]

Just hit this from a blaster:)!
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[kluke84]

Just hit this from a blaster:)!
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Congrats! I got lucky on an SP also earlier this month. Blasters in general seem more live this year from what I have seen.

[Floridacardguy]

Just hit this from a blaster:)!
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Great hit!

[Floridacardguy]

Got a good deal on an Contenders Optic Ticket auto /49 can’t wait to see if it’s worth grading

[waulk11]

Congrats! I got lucky on an SP also earlier this month. Blasters in general seem more live this year from what I have seen.
Nice auto hit!
Great hit! Thanks

[kluke84]

Nice auto hit!

Thanks! Was a Stained Glass CJ though not an auto. Those typically are players like Kosar and Fryer in blasters (an auto I did get). Those seemingly never have an auto of a chase rookie but I don't break in volume.

[TheFrenzy]

Got a good deal on an Contenders Optic Ticket auto /49 can’t wait to see if it’s worth grading

Now we're talking!

Forget dirt cheap unlicensed stuff. Sounds like you got a great pick up.

[Floridacardguy]

Now we're talking!

Forget dirt cheap unlicensed stuff. Sounds like you got a great pick up.

Lol I do buy real stuff too, I’ve mostly been picking up Levis and Stroud

[Floridacardguy]

Stroud Die Cut /10! I can't wait to send all the Strouds off together for grading

[Siberian13]

Stroud Die Cut /10! I can't wait to send all the Strouds off together for grading

Wish that was pro jersey

[Floridacardguy]

Wish that was pro jersey

me too!

[SleeperCards]

Dead @ FCG changing the avatar.

[jplarson]

Stroud just keeps getting lucky and keeps getting wins

Quoted from the Week 10 thread.

[TheFrenzy]

Dead @ FCG changing the avatar.

FCG > BBases

[jplarson]

FCG > BBases

Oh 100% and it's not even close. FCG is still one of my favs from the 2022 BO draft class.

[kyle1707]

So many bad qbs .. like I can’t remember it being this bad ever

It’s nice to have 1 new star.

I think we are real close to Sam Howell also.

[JeremyNick]

In a market completely oversaturated with junk a potential franchise QB rises from the ashes of Panini and gives us some fun limited collecting chases.https://media3.giphy.com/media/RQzxAaAg3aAU/giphy.gif

[TheFrenzy]

I think we are real close to Sam Howell also.

https://media.tenor.com/2jgbEi-vCuQAAAAC/mando-way-this-is-the-way.gif

[netmasters]

Are people bidding on this just because it has Gold in the title? This makes no sense to me. What am I missing?

2023 Panini NSCC VIP Gold C.J. Stroud "Rookies" Rookie Card #RC2 - PSA 10 (https://ebay.us/5a5UcZ)

[JWBlue]

What does it say that Stroud can turn a JAG like WR Noah Brown into a superstar even for two weeks?

[Floridacardguy]

My newest pickup. I have one more beauty I want to scoop up if I can move 1-2 more Keaton Mitchells. After this weekend they should move easily
Stroud & Purdy to the moon!

[Stifle]

He plays like a Leader ! Decision making is the number one key as a quarterback and he has delivered ! Great start ! Kudos !

[chris_ac]

What does it say that Stroud can turn a JAG like WR Noah Brown into a superstar even for two weeks?

In a dream scenario, GOATness! Inner circle, upper upper echelon.

Disclaimer: Nothing has happened or been confirmed yet. Future is still unwritten. But fingers crossed.

[Floridacardguy]

Trying to put a list together of 2023 case hits for Stroud.
I know there are a lot, if anyone knows of any I forgot, please chime in.

Origins Primordial
Prizm Draft Color Blast
Prizm Draft Stained Glass
Mosaic Stained Glass
Gold Standard Opulence
Mosaic Razzle Dazzle
Mosaic Genesis
Mosaic Honeycomb
Mosaic Kaleidoscpe
Mosaic Micro Mosaic
Certified The Mighty
Prizm Draft On Campus
Panini Black Forcefield
Certified Radical Rookies
Panini Black Prolific
Panini Black Vanta
Plates & Patches Nuclear
Prestige Throwing Stars
Plates & Patches American Metal
Legacy Under the lights Black and White
Legacy Dare to tear
Score Next Up
Select Draft Color Wheel
Legacy Destiny
Gold Standard El Dorado
Prestige City Limits
Score Extraterrestrial
Elite Razzle Dazzle
Prestige Human Highlight Reel

[kluke84]

Trying to put a list together of 2023 case hits for Stroud.
I know there are a lot, if anyone knows of any I forgot, please chime in.

Origins Primordial
Prizm Draft Color Blast
Prizm Draft Stained Glass
Mosaic Stained Glass
Gold Standard Opulence
Mosaic Razzle Dazzle
Mosaic Genesis
Mosaic Honeycomb
Mosaic Kaleidoscpe
Mosaic Micro Mosaic
Certified The Mighty
Prizm Draft On Campus
Panini Black Forcefield
Certified Radical Rookies
Panini Black Prolific
Panini Black Vanta
Plates & Patches Nuclear
Prestige Throwing Stars
Plates & Patches American Metal
Legacy Under the lights Black and White
Legacy Dare to tear
Score Next Up
Select Draft Color Wheel
Legacy Destiny
Gold Standard El Dorado
Prestige City Limits
Score Extraterrestrial
Elite Razzle Dazzle
Prestige Human Highlight Reel

I already posted the best two in your other thread. Odd they were left out.

Black- White Night
Origins- Blank Slate

And a 3rd from this week:
Certified - Night Moves

[glassofwater]

Im bad at trading cards I sold this card durning the draft for peanuts: :(. I should of waited who know what this could go for now.. the price for a base kahuna is crazy right now

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[Floridacardguy]

Im bad at trading cards I sold this card durning the draft for peanuts: :(. I should of waited who know what this could go for now.. the price for a base kahuna is crazy right now

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Is that a 1/1?

[glassofwater]

Is that a 1/1?

yah its a superfractor

[Chris P]

Is that a 1/1?

Yep it is

[Floridacardguy]

yah its a superfractor

Wow that was a keeper (at least for a while)

[Floridacardguy]

Looks good in the one touch! :)

[cardsin47]

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[Floridacardguy]

Latest pickups. I think ROY for him at this point is a no brainer, but if he can somehow bring the Texans to the playoffs or work his way up in the MVP odds, sky is the limit for this kid!

[Onepocketj]

No love for today?
27/37 for 336 2/3 and the win. First game in college or NFL with 3 INT's but still got the win.
Definitely didn't expect this from the Texans this year.

[kluke84]

No love for today?
27/37 for 336 2/3 and the win. First game in college or NFL with 3 INT's but still got the win.
Definitely didn't expect this from the Texans this year.

Next week is huge for 2 franchises with a lot of meh.

[Floridacardguy]

No love for today?
27/37 for 336 2/3 and the win. First game in college or NFL with 3 INT's but still got the win.
Definitely didn't expect this from the Texans this year.

The picks this week were bad decision picks by Stroud, not instances where the WR ran to wrong spot, or a ball was tipped, etc. Throws into spots where they shouldn't have gone, into coverages he should have been wary of. Stroud has been very careful NOT to do this all season. I suspect that Stroud is feeling invincible as if he can do no wrong the last few games, and he took his eye off protecting the ball. I think this is the kind of game that will serve as a reminder to him to protect the ball and make smart choices. I think he bounces back fine from this. At the end of the day, he still played good enough to get the win. Singletary and Dell have really stepped their game up to, and the D kept most of the Cards offense in check all day. The next game against the Texans could be yet another shootout, so CJ better bring his A game.


To this point, CJ is still the no-brainer ROY, and still in the MVP conversation. 17 TD to 5 picks is a pretty good ratio, especially since 3 of the picks were in yesterday's game.

10th in TD passes, 12th in completions, 28th in picks 8th in QB rate among starting QBs, all with 10 starts under his belt. Next week, 1st place in the division is on the line in the home stadium for CJ, I think he steps up

[Chris P]

Not a card but got this sweet Auto'd CJ Stroud Mini Helmet. Fanatics Authenticated

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53348108119_20f2536eab_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2phbZVz)

[Floridacardguy]

Not a card but got this sweet Auto'd CJ Stroud Mini Helmet. Fanatics Authenticated

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53348108119_20f2536eab_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2phbZVz)

That looks really nice, congrats!

[Onepocketj]

The picks this week were bad decision picks by Stroud, not instances where the WR ran to wrong spot, or a ball was tipped, etc. Throws into spots where they shouldn't have gone, into coverages he should have been wary of. Stroud has been very careful NOT to do this all season. I suspect that Stroud is feeling invincible as if he can do no wrong the last few games, and he took his eye off protecting the ball. I think this is the kind of game that will serve as a reminder to him to protect the ball and make smart choices. I think he bounces back fine from this. At the end of the day, he still played good enough to get the win. Singletary and Dell have really stepped their game up to, and the D kept most of the Cards offense in check all day. The next game against the Texans could be yet another shootout, so CJ better bring his A game.


To this point, CJ is still the no-brainer ROY, and still in the MVP conversation. 17 TD to 5 picks is a pretty good ratio, especially since 3 of the picks were in yesterday's game.

10th in TD passes, 12th in completions, 28th in picks 8th in QB rate among starting QBs, all with 10 starts under his belt. Next week, 1st place in the division is on the line in the home stadium for CJ, I think he steps up

One of the interceptions went right through his receivers hands. The other two were on him.

[Floridacardguy]

One of the interceptions went right through his receivers hands. The other two were on him.

Yeah, he wasn't perfect for sure, and some of the blame is on him but not all of it. Still, I think he gets back to remembering to protect the ball. Even some of the best QBs in the league have twice as many picks as CJ

[Chris P]

That looks really nice, congrats!

Appreciate it!

[weeds73]

Thought I would look on eBay this evening to grab a few Strouds before prices shot up too much. Holy crap. His prices went nuclear…I didn’t realize he had already won a few superbowls. Guess I missed that train completely.

Is he now priced at a premium to burrow, Herbert, Hurts, Lawrence, and Purdy?


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[Floridacardguy]

Thought I would look on eBay this evening to grab a few Strouds before prices shot up too much. Holy crap. His prices went nuclear…I didn’t realize he had already won a few superbowls. Guess I missed that train completely.

Is he now priced at a premium to burrow, Herbert, Hurts, Lawrence, and Purdy?


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People buying now because they think he’s going to be great and his prices only going to keep rising. Rookie of the year is a certainty

[Onepocketj]

Thought I would look on eBay this evening to grab a few Strouds before prices shot up too much. Holy crap. His prices went nuclear…I didn’t realize he had already won a few superbowls. Guess I missed that train completely.

Is he now priced at a premium to burrow, Herbert, Hurts, Lawrence, and Purdy?


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Nice to have a QB with potential again here in Houston. Now that my 150 or so remaining Deshaun cards have gone from 100k to about 5k, I threw a couple thousand at Stroud rookies. I just wish there were better options at this point. Not a fan of college uniforms so there aren't too many choices.

[jplarson]

Im bad at trading cards I sold this card durning the draft for peanuts: :(. I should of waited who know what this could go for now.. the price for a base kahuna is crazy right now

Wow that was a keeper (at least for a while)

I can't fault Glass for selling. Way back in 2022 the majority declared that no good QB could come from Ohio State.

:coffee::coffee::coffee:

[weeds73]

Nice to have a QB with potential again here in Houston. Now that my 150 or so remaining Deshaun cards have gone from 100k to about 5k, I threw a couple thousand at Stroud rookies. I just wish there were better options at this point. Not a fan of college uniforms so there aren't too many choices.


Misery loves company. Watson has been such a disappointment. Had a nice stash that went to crap….

Not sure a couple grand buys you many meaningful Strouds these days . Just a quick couple of cards that sold over the last week:
$850 for raw mosaic stained glass
$587 for green mosaic PSA 10
$1600 mosaic razzle dazzle

To the moon


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[Floridacardguy]

Misery loves company. Watson has been such a disappointment. Had a nice stash that went to crap….

Not sure a couple grand buys you many meaningful Strouds these days . Just a quick couple of cards that sold over the last week:
$850 for raw mosaic stained glass
$587 for green mosaic PSA 10
$1600 mosaic razzle dazzle

To the moon


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My Best Strouds I picked up were:
2023 Contenders Optic /49 Auto for $400 its now $900+
2022 Topps Auto /10 for $490 its now $700+
2022 National Treasures redemption I bought for $80 and the card I got /99 is now $600+
I also got a Score Protential /10 for $100, now $500+
Dare to Tear (untorn) for $200, haven't even seen another one listed
Throwing Stars Case Hit for $175 now selling for $275
Score Die Cut /10 paid $110, a graded one is now listed for $700
I am sending all of these off to get graded

Once he gets rookie of the year, and/or somehow makes playoffs, etc, these card values only going one direction

[SleeperCards]

My Best Strouds I picked up were:
2023 Contenders Optic /49 Auto for $400 its now $900+
2022 Topps Auto /10 for $490 its now $700+
2022 National Treasures redemption I bought for $80 and the card I got /99 is now $600+
I also got a Score Protential /10 for $100, now $500+
Dare to Tear (untorn) for $200, haven't even seen another one listed
Throwing Stars Case Hit for $175 now selling for $275
Score Die Cut /10 paid $110, a graded one is now listed for $700
I am sending all of these off to get graded

Once he gets rookie of the year, and/or somehow makes playoffs, etc, these card values only going one direction

To SGC? The direction might be a flat line. Congrats on the flip though, you could probably get a pretty nice card if you move those for $3k.

[Floridacardguy]

To SGC? The direction might be a flat line. Congrats on the flip though, you could probably get a pretty nice card if you move those for $3k.

Plenty of people buying SGC, but I'll hold them for the time being and see what comes down the pike

[weeds73]

My Best Strouds I picked up were:
2023 Contenders Optic /49 Auto for $400 its now $900+
2022 Topps Auto /10 for $490 its now $700+
2022 National Treasures redemption I bought for $80 and the card I got /99 is now $600+
I also got a Score Protential /10 for $100, now $500+
Dare to Tear (untorn) for $200, haven't even seen another one listed
Throwing Stars Case Hit for $175 now selling for $275
Score Die Cut /10 paid $110, a graded one is now listed for $700
I am sending all of these off to get graded

Once he gets rookie of the year, and/or somehow makes playoffs, etc, these card values only going one direction


Agree with Sleeper. Hard to see him having much postseason success this year or next, which means it’s probably hard to see a lot of pricing upside to today

Just remember that many young QBs have followed a similar trajectory, such as Lamar Jackson winning MVP in 2019, Kyler Murray winning rookie of the year (and getting to playoffs), and Joe Burrow going to the Super Bowl. Probably safe to assume Stroud will have the same type of peak and fall if he does not win a Super Bowl or MVP in the near term, as investors will quickly pivot to the next shiny object. Nobody gives a crap about rookie of the year for pricing


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[Onepocketj]

CJ looking like the real deal. Playing a great game today

[Onepocketj]

Robbed of OT by having a crappy kicker. Missed 2 FG's today.
CJ played great

[SleeperCards]

Robbed of OT by having a crappy kicker. Missed 2 FG's today.
CJ played great

I know the statistics don't bear it out, but I feel like they had a better shot with Stroud on 4th and 12 vs a kicker who has NEVER made a FG over 50 attempting a 58 yarder (missed from 50 today too).

[dkcardman]

I know the statistics don't bear it out, but I feel like they had a better shot with Stroud on 4th and 12 vs a kicker who has NEVER made a FG over 50 attempting a 58 yarder (missed from 50 today too).

As a Jags fan, I was thrilled when they decided to kick the FG instead of going for it. Stroud just seems to make things happen. Texans fans have a Gem of a QB. He seems ahead of Trevor Lawrence in development already.

[JWBlue]

He looks like.....no QB I have ever seen.

[mrmojorisin71]

I know the statistics don't bear it out, but I feel like they had a better shot with Stroud on 4th and 12 vs a kicker who has NEVER made a FG over 50 attempting a 58 yarder (missed from 50 today too).

Dude had more developed arms than legs…fool skippin leg day, clearly

[JeremyNick]

Thread is quiet for the best buy in all of sports.

Choo-choo!!

[oldgoldy97]

He looks like.....no QB I have ever seen.

It’s because of his weapons.

You know, Nico Collins, Tank Dell, that other guy...

[bakelle1]

Thread is quiet for the best buy in all of sports.

Choo-choo!!

What are you buying? Seems like there are a ton of stained glass and micro in Mosaic and everything else will go down when Prizm comes out imo.

[Onepocketj]

What are you buying? Seems like there are a ton of stained glass and micro in Mosaic and everything else will go down when Prizm comes out imo.

I bought a bunch of the Origins. NFL uniform and cards look great IMO.

[imbluestreak23]

Quiet thread as most likely don't want to pump up before buying is over.

[Floridacardguy]

The time to buy them 'cheap' (as cheap as you could) has come and gone.
I bought his raw Optic Silver ticket auto /49 for $400. The last few raw have sold for $700-$800
His 2022 National Treasures Collegiate Silhouettes /99, I paid $80 for a redemption, last couple have sold for $500+.
None of Stroud's current stuff is ever going to be cheaper. Case in point, Mahomes National Treasures 2017 auto /99 are $3000+

Barring an epic downturn of his career, the ceiling has not happened yet. If he wins ROY, gets in playoffs, wins SB, etc, his cards are only going one way and that is UP

I think some of the people that tell you "once his pro uniform stuff is out, his college stuff will be worthless" are trying to keep the prices down so they can buy it cheaper

[jplarson]

Quiet thread as most likely don't want to pump up before buying is over.

Might be more an indictment on the lack of Texans fans and folks pessimistic about all Ohio State QBs regardless of on field performance. I'd be surprised if posts on BO move the needle for the larger buying market.

[Floridacardguy]

Might be more an indictment on the lack of Texans fans and folks pessimistic about all Ohio State QBs regardless of on field performance. I'd be surprised if posts on BO move the needle for the larger buying market.

He's clearly a hot commodity right there with Purdy. Can there be two hotter QB's? Some threads on blowout are not going to affect the overall buying demand on Ebay

[jplarson]

He's clearly a hot commodity right there with Purdy. Can there be two hotter QB's? Some threads on blowout are not going to affect the overall buying demand on Ebay

I'm not saying he isn't a hot player right now. He's clearly playing far beyond expectations. I'm saying there might not be many Texans fans here in general to post about him AND there may not be many people registered here on BO investing for whatever the reason.

[Onepocketj]

His cards are definitely going up much quicker than Purdy's.
I bought a bunch of Purdy's two or three months ago and put others on my watch list. All of the ones on the watch list are still there and if anything, are cheaper now.
Strouds listed at decent prices are gone the same day.

[Yanks23]

I think it is hard to hype base rcs and ssp inserts for him when everyone knows or should by now that he will have tons of different rcs still to come. It really hurts the overall market with no rc autos to chase in products and help pump more of his higher end rcs.

[jplarson]

Unlike some people who shall remain basenameless, I'll put up my collection of CJ Stroud which came in the mail this afternoon:

https://i.postimg.cc/LXNPFqFs/CJStroud-Topps-Now-CJ1-130pt-Tyson-Beck-PR13854.jpg

More info here (https://www.topps.com/cj-stroud-2023-topps-now-reg-football-card-cj1.html).

[imbluestreak23]

He's clearly a hot commodity right there with Purdy. Can there be two hotter QB's? Some threads on blowout are not going to affect the overall buying demand on Ebay

You're new here.

Message board pumps are real

[Onepocketj]

You're new here.

Message board pumps are real

I ran so many experiments with that a couple years ago. I could mention a deal on here that had been sitting on ebay or comc for months and it would sell within the hour every time.

[Floridacardguy]

You're new here.

Message board pumps are real

I am NOT "new here", been here a year, but thanks.
And I understand that message board pumps ARE real. What I am saying is, that the bulk of people on Ebay aren't buying based on a Blowout thread

[blackbears86]

I'm not saying he isn't a hot player right now. He's clearly playing far beyond expectations. I'm saying there might not be many Texans fans here in general to post about him AND there may not be many people registered here on BO investing for whatever the reason.



I'm not a texans fan whatsoever, but I love this kid. I will not post much beyond this as I want more of his cards before they become too expensive.

[blackbears86]

I am NOT "new here", been here a year, but thanks.
And I understand that message board pumps ARE real. What I am saying is, that the bulk of people on Ebay aren't buying based on a Blowout thread


I beg to differ.

Blowout has SIGNIFICANT influence on the buying community, ebay included.

[imbluestreak23]

I am NOT "new here", been here a year, but thanks.
And I understand that message board pumps ARE real. What I am saying is, that the bulk of people on Ebay aren't buying based on a Blowout thread

The Patty thread has been viewed over 2 million times. I’m sure when cards are discussed it pops up in Google. Sure half a million of those views may be mine but that visibility and player threads like it generate hype/staying power

I also maintain that the term “Patty” in reference to Mahomes became a thing because of that thread. Mahomes is Patty Mahomes because of BOs influence

[blackbears86]

The Patty thread has been viewed over 2 million times. I’m sure when cards are discussed it pops up in Google. Sure half a million of those views may be mine but that visibility and player threads like it generate hype/staying power

I also maintain that the term “Patty” in reference to Mahomes became a thing because of that thread. Mahomes is Patty Mahomes because of BOs influence



Agree with this. Blowout has way more clout than people give credit.

[asujbl]

Agree with this. Blowout has way more clout than people give credit.

No. No they (we) don’t

[blackbears86]

No. No they (we) don’t



There was a joke basketball pump thread years ago about a pistons rookie and his cards went nuts.


You can believe what you want. The power of blowout is real. Imabluestreak isn't kidding. The Patty thread shows this.

[jplarson]

https://media.giphy.com/media/kSlJtVrqxDYKk/giphy.gif

[Onepocketj]

There was a joke basketball pump thread years ago about a pistons rookie and his cards went nuts.


You can believe what you want. The power of blowout is real. Imabluestreak isn't kidding. The Patty thread shows this.

Yep. I started the Patty thread so I used to get messaged ALL the time (pandemic era) on ebay with questions about cards. About 90% of the people said they read Blowout all the time but didn't have an account.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Quiet thread as most likely don't want to pump up before buying is over.

This, plus 1) Lack of NFL licensed autos and 2) Popular sets haven't even been released yet.

[Floridacardguy]

Because of the lack of Panini autos of Stroud(and Levis/Young) in his pro uniform, I am thinking his college autos are going to be a great long term hold. They are going to be his true 1st autos as opposed to later Topps/Fanatics autos. Anyone agree with this?

My regret was spending equal $ on Stroud and Levis stuff, I wish I had spent 2-1 on Stroud stuff

[Onepocketj]

It's possible but I really doubt it.
Football isn't like baseball where people really want the first auto. Most people want an auto in an NFL uniform. Personally, although I do want to pick up some of his autos, I'm waiting for NFL uniforms. His autos will retain more value than a lot of college autos though because of the large OSU collector base. Just my opinion.

[imbluestreak23]

I snagged two of them, his first Topps Now and the Select X-Factor or whatever.

Feel like until the autos come out, there's a good window of buying for the autos for a year or so as people will want an auto now, and then of course later.

[asujbl]

There was a joke basketball pump thread years ago about a pistons rookie and his cards went nuts.


You can believe what you want. The power of blowout is real. Imabluestreak isn't kidding. The Patty thread shows this.

It is absolutely not real

You can't possibly be serious with this

[Onepocketj]

It is absolutely not real

You can't possibly be serious with this

You can't possibly be serious thinking that one of the largest forums for card collecting has no impact on cards.

[oldgoldy97]

We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear.

[blackbears86]

It is absolutely not real

You can't possibly be serious with this



Ok

Ignore what onepocket and Imbluestreak said too.

[blackbears86]

You can't possibly be serious thinking that one of the largest forums for card collecting has no impact on cards.



exactly.

Blowout has way more sway than people give it credit for.


I'm not saying blowout is the "all mighty" but it has influence.

[blackbears86]

Because of the lack of Panini autos of Stroud(and Levis/Young) in his pro uniform, I am thinking his college autos are going to be a great long term hold. They are going to be his true 1st autos as opposed to later Topps/Fanatics autos. Anyone agree with this?

My regret was spending equal $ on Stroud and Levis stuff, I wish I had spent 2-1 on Stroud stuff



I had the chance to get a raw college auto versus a graded ssp case hit last Saturday at a card show and I went with the graded ssp case hit, but in retrospect, I wish I had gone with both, as the college auto was numbered to #49.

[imbluestreak23]

Poopini really is doing a great job with the case hits in their lame duck year

[blackbears86]

I'm happy with it. The card really pops in person. Has a die-cut like surface. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231206/896316f500df0c6d30c9d52c31f23ba3.jpg

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[Siberian13]

I'm happy with it. The card really pops in person. Has a die-cut like surface. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231206/896316f500df0c6d30c9d52c31f23ba3.jpg

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Saved by the Bell inserts, nice

[Floridacardguy]

I'm happy with it. The card really pops in person. Has a die-cut like surface. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231206/896316f500df0c6d30c9d52c31f23ba3.jpg

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Good looking card

[kluke84]

Because of the lack of Panini autos of Stroud(and Levis/Young) in his pro uniform, I am thinking his college autos are going to be a great long term hold. They are going to be his true 1st autos as opposed to later Topps/Fanatics autos. Anyone agree with this?

My regret was spending equal $ on Stroud and Levis stuff, I wish I had spent 2-1 on Stroud stuff

I said this several pages ago, but I think the opposite. The 'case hits/SSP' should hold more value due to lack of licensed NFL sigs. It also seems that Panini overloaded these 'case hits' likely to compensate for lack of autos.

College uni autos don't really do it for me, but I'm not a big college fan in general. They tend to drop in value as.more releases come out.

[Onepocketj]

I said this several pages ago, but I think the opposite. The 'case hits/SSP' should hold more value due to lack of licensed NFL sigs. It also seems that Panini overloaded these 'case hits' likely to compensate for lack of autos.

College uni autos don't really do it for me, but I'm not a big college fan in general. They tend to drop in value as.more releases come out.

There are a few case hits that I love the look of and would normally pick up. However, it feels like they've become incredibly watered down. Barely any football products have been released and these are some of the "case hits" already:

Big Bang
Portraits
The Mighty
Razzle Dazzle
Throwing Stars
Stained Glass
On Campus
Downtown
Drip
Kaleidoscopic
Pedigree
Primordial
Gridiron Marvels
Destiny
Origin Story
Genesis
Next Up
Graffiti
City Limits
Forcefield
Prolific
Human Highlight
Night Moves
Extraterrestrial
Nuclear

[Floridacardguy]

I said this several pages ago, but I think the opposite. The 'case hits/SSP' should hold more value due to lack of licensed NFL sigs. It also seems that Panini overloaded these 'case hits' likely to compensate for lack of autos.

College uni autos don't really do it for me, but I'm not a big college fan in general. They tend to drop in value as.more releases come out.

College football cards are becoming more sought after and produced to meet that demand. Due to that, I think the days of their values dropping significantly may be over. Let's re-visit this in a couple years and see. I agree, NFL uniform always going to be the better one, but I am not sleeping on the college stuff

[Floridacardguy]

Unlike some people who shall remain basenameless, I'll put up my collection of CJ Stroud which came in the mail this afternoon:

https://i.postimg.cc/LXNPFqFs/CJStroud-Topps-Now-CJ1-130pt-Tyson-Beck-PR13854.jpg

More info here (https://www.topps.com/cj-stroud-2023-topps-now-reg-football-card-cj1.html).

Got my 10 Stroud Topps Nows, and notta one of them was numbered :cry:

[jplarson]

Got my 10 Stroud Topps Nows, and notta one of them was numbered :cry:

Ah that's a bummer :(

PR on base is 13854 and there's a total of 470 serial numbered cards, that's about 29.5 base cards for every serial numbered card (13854 / 470 = 29.477)

So on average if a person ordered 30 base cards they'd be likely to get 1 serial numbered card. Ordering 10 you had about a 33% chance of getting a numbered parallel.

[Floridacardguy]

Ah that's a bummer :(

PR on base is 13854 and there's a total of 470 serial numbered cards, that's about 29.5 base cards for every serial numbered card (13854 / 470 = 29.477)

So on average if a person ordered 30 base cards they'd be likely to get 1 serial numbered card. Ordering 10 you had about a 33% chance of getting a numbered parallel.

Yeah, I wasn't thinking I'd get one, but was hoping

[ninjabum87]

exactly.

Blowout has way more sway than people give it credit for.


I'm not saying blowout is the "all mighty" but it has influence.

Yeah you could see a few years ago around the time I was getting into galactics cause they looked cool that hype cycle exploded and was fed by the blowout thread a lot. I know that pretty much taught me to keep my lips sealed generally about anything I really liked.