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abraxio
09-13-2023, 10:40 AM
I’m currently considering a trade that would have me send a ton of traders the other way for a pretty great card for my nets pc. However, it’s definitely an overpay, by some margin. I normally hate to be a “card values over everything” kind of guy but what are your thoughts on overpaying/overtrading to get the card you want?


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asujbl
09-13-2023, 10:42 AM
Depends on how rare it is

If it’s rare? I’ll pay whatever it takes

If it’s PC but I might find another one at some point? I’ll overpay but within reason

KhalDrogo
09-13-2023, 10:44 AM
If it’s rare? I’ll pay whatever it takes
Indeed.

abraxio
09-13-2023, 10:46 AM
It’s pretty rare, I’d say a top 5/top 10 card to have, I guess I’m having some hesitation since the nets have such high player turnover


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asujbl
09-13-2023, 10:47 AM
It’s pretty rare, I’d say a top 5/top 10 card to have, I guess I’m having some hesitation since the nets have such high player turnover


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Just tell us what it is

abraxio
09-13-2023, 10:48 AM
Just tell us what it is


It’s a NT emerald RPA. Thing is it’s Nic Claxton who is a ridiculously cheap player to collect, this would be his highest sold card by some margin unless I missed his NT/Immaculate logoman sale


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asujbl
09-13-2023, 10:51 AM
It’s a NT emerald RPA. Thing is it’s Nic Claxton who is a ridiculously cheap player to collect, this would be his highest sold card by some margin unless I missed his NT/Immaculate logoman sale


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That’s a tough one as I get your question

Overpaying for a 24 year old dude that might bounce isn’t the same as overpaying for someone that’s been around

Literally the first article that comes up when you google Claxton is a Celtics trade (yes it’s a blog but still)

Makakilo Cards
09-13-2023, 10:51 AM
If it's rare, I'm usually willing to pay the price of the same card of a better player. Like if it's an all star, non-HOF player, I'd be willing to pay the price of a HOFer. Or of the card is graded, I might spend the price of 2 grades higher.

abraxio
09-13-2023, 10:52 AM
That’s a tough one as I get your question

Overpaying for a 24 year old dude that might bounce isn’t the same as overpaying for someone that’s been around


Yeah the nets have been consistently revamping the team so every player I add to the PC gets phased out in about 2-3 years tops. Aside from Brook Lopez we haven’t really had any long term stalwarts


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Derekbauer
09-13-2023, 10:53 AM
If you’re collecting for the player it’s a yes. If you’re collecting for the Nets I’d probably hold off.

abraxio
09-13-2023, 10:54 AM
If you’re collecting for the player it’s a yes. If you’re collecting for the Nets I’d probably hold off.


Why hold off on the nets part?


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asujbl
09-13-2023, 10:55 AM
If you’re collecting for the player it’s a yes. If you’re collecting for the Nets I’d probably hold off.

I would agree with this…

But I also overpay all the time for Garland and Mobley so what the hell do I know

abraxio
09-13-2023, 10:57 AM
I would agree with this…

But I also overpay all the time for Garland and Mobley so what the hell do I know


Why holding off on the nets? Think he’ll leave?


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asujbl
09-13-2023, 11:02 AM
Why holding off on the nets? Think he’ll leave?


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If I was a gambling man? Yes

At some point you’ll wonder why you overpaid for him

But you never know

abraxio
09-13-2023, 11:03 AM
If I was a gambling man? Yes

At some point you’ll wonder why you overpaid for him

But you never know


Lol yeah it’s exactly what happened to me with Dlo. And Caris. And Jarrett. And Kyrie. And KD. Just about everyone. One of them has to stay though right? Someone HAS to wanna see out most of their career in Brooklyn


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asujbl
09-13-2023, 11:04 AM
Lol yeah it’s exactly what happened to me with Dlo. And Caris. And Jarrett. And Kyrie. And KD. Just about everyone. One of them has to stay though right? Someone HAS to wanna see out most of their career in Brooklyn


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Kyrie is a perfect one for me. I spent so much on that guy

I’m sure I’ll say the same about Garland in 4 years

abraxio
09-13-2023, 11:08 AM
Kyrie is a perfect one for me. I spent so much on that guy

I’m sure I’ll say the same about Garland in 4 years


At least you’ll be able to recoup with garland, kyrie made sure to burn all hobby love before he left Brooklyn lol


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jlzinck
09-13-2023, 11:11 AM
I pay what something is worth to me. If that is not what the seller wants then I move on.

jcardstore
09-13-2023, 11:45 AM
It’s a NT emerald RPA. Thing is it’s Nic Claxton who is a ridiculously cheap player to collect, this would be his highest sold card by some margin unless I missed his NT/Immaculate logoman sale


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I would only overpay on Claxton if you are willing to let the card go to $0.

If it's truly for your PC and you have no intent to resell, it doesn't really matter what the overpay is UNLESS you can just buy one with cash instead.

REGGIE206
09-13-2023, 12:06 PM
If it’s a rare card and it’s a card I would like to have for my PC, I will pay however much I am comfortable to spend. I set a maximum price by determining what price I am comfortable walking away from the card if it goes too high. Since the card is rare, I can care less what previous sales were.

It’s harder to walk away from a card, then see it sell for a price I know I was comfortable paying at.

kingofsnake
09-13-2023, 12:24 PM
I'm a fan of Claxton - I think he's got a bright future. Hope you can pick up the Emerald.

KhalDrogo
09-13-2023, 12:55 PM
I would not overpay on that card when there are 100+ other copies that look nearly identical.

SupermanBrandon
09-13-2023, 01:23 PM
Whatever price it will take for me not to wake up the next morning and not be mad that I didn't get after it.

byronscott4ever
09-13-2023, 01:36 PM
How awesome is the card?
How long has it been on my radar?

eastbayak
09-13-2023, 02:00 PM
Depends on the card (including condition).

hauntedcomputer
09-13-2023, 02:16 PM
The card of a 24-year-old non-star?

I'd just wait a decade or two and pick it up by trading some other "hot prospect." At 24 you are no longer really a prospect. And yeah nobody stays with one team anymore so if you're a team collector, even more reason to be patient.

I've knowingly overpaid before, but just for grails.

90sbasketballin
09-13-2023, 02:36 PM
As much as you may love Claxton, I'd avoid the overpay at the moment unless it's for the Claxton PC.

Assuming it's for the Nets PC, there's just far too much risk associated as 1) He's most likely going to get traded or leave in FA, and 2) There isn't any SIGNIFICANT upside to his cards to have you justify making such a big play on it. Are you okay with the card potentially becoming worthless? If not, avoid the deal.

bloodwings19
09-13-2023, 02:37 PM
I would not overpay on that card when there are 100+ other copies that look nearly identical.

Totally, unless the patch is unique than I would overpay. At the same time, if it is for flipping, I wouldn't overpay. Only overpay if it a card you don't find in completed sales and isn't a parallel of many versions.

colbycolbycolby
09-13-2023, 02:44 PM
If it is part of a set, and it is rare, and it's PC, I'm writing blank checks.

duron
09-13-2023, 05:37 PM
Just the fact you’re asking this tells me it’s going to bug you after the fact.

Don’t do it.

drobfan8
09-13-2023, 07:08 PM
Just the fact you’re asking this tells me it’s going to bug you after the fact.

Don’t do it.

This is my advice also.

If it was a grail type card of someone that's cemented their legacy, go for it.

Claxton is nice, but the only way is down for his prices like 90% of the other unproven Rookies.

How much are we talking?

if it's $1000 it's not the end of the world if that card goes to $100.

abraxio
09-13-2023, 08:05 PM
This is my advice also.

If it was a grail type card of someone that's cemented their legacy, go for it.

Claxton is nice, but the only way is down for his prices like 90% of the other unproven Rookies.

How much are we talking?

if it's $1000 it's not the end of the world if that card goes to $100.


It’s a lot. Only reason I’m hung up though is because I’m giving a lot of cool cards in the proposal. Idk whenever players move on there are cards I keep, vinyls 1/1s etc. this would be a keeper


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abraxio
09-13-2023, 08:06 PM
Just the fact you’re asking this tells me it’s going to bug you after the fact.

Don’t do it.


It’s mostly because I have such bad trades usually lol. Idk what it is but if I buy a card to sell I do well but all my trades in hindsight have been so so lopsided, probably because I think with my heart too much


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abraxio
09-13-2023, 08:07 PM
Totally, unless the patch is unique than I would overpay. At the same time, if it is for flipping, I wouldn't overpay. Only overpay if it a card you don't find in completed sales and isn't a parallel of many versions.


To be fair though the nets don’t have great patches, best you can get is a letter. Even the spurs have the spur to spice things up with the same black and white


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abraxio
09-13-2023, 08:07 PM
I would only overpay on Claxton if you are willing to let the card go to $0.

If it's truly for your PC and you have no intent to resell, it doesn't really matter what the overpay is UNLESS you can just buy one with cash instead.


Def can’t buy with cash, not at his price anyway. I don’t mind it from a value perspective it’s just I’d be giving up some really cool cards


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tommyboiazn23
09-14-2023, 02:23 AM
Def can’t buy with cash, not at his price anyway. I don’t mind it from a value perspective it’s just I’d be giving up some really cool cards


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If you have to give up that many cool cards, I wouldn't.

mondogenerator
09-14-2023, 03:54 AM
depends on the card tbh

some of the things im missing (the few) are exceptionally rare 90s parallels that have such a wider buyer base than the player - set collectors, investors etc

its a pain in the ass but it is what it is.
if i never add another damon, im good with it.

duron
09-14-2023, 07:47 AM
It’s mostly because I have such bad trades usually lol. Idk what it is but if I buy a card to sell I do well but all my trades in hindsight have been so so lopsided, probably because I think with my heart too much


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Yea, that’s why I think there’s a good chance you’ll regret this. I feel like you’re trying to get others to convince you to make a bad choice right as your senses are also trying to kick in and finally reverse the curse, lol.

depends on the card tbh

some of the things im missing (the few) are exceptionally rare 90s parallels that have such a wider buyer base than the player - set collectors, investors etc

its a pain in the ass but it is what it is.
if i never add another damon, im good with it.

I feel your pain. I’m not there yet but I’m approaching this point with Penny. After another year or so I’m hoping to have most of his inserts/playing days autos, but there’s literally no shot I can dip my toe in the parallel pool. That’s where the line between collector and investor gets oh so blurry.

Then there’s the added challenge of not being able to fully trust comps at that level.

Maybe we should just buy counterfeit Star Rubies.

elontusk1119
09-14-2023, 10:27 AM
by quite a lot, yes

rifleman69
09-14-2023, 10:52 AM
overpay? $0

dizzy4111
09-14-2023, 07:25 PM
I wouldn't do it simply because I doubt he's part of their long term future but maybe I'm wrong

jova888
09-15-2023, 09:33 PM
Never, I like seeing sellers take L's

abraxio
09-15-2023, 09:34 PM
Yea, that’s why I think there’s a good chance you’ll regret this. I feel like you’re trying to get others to convince you to make a bad choice right as your senses are also trying to kick in and finally reverse the curse, lol.



I feel your pain. I’m not there yet but I’m approaching this point with Penny. After another year or so I’m hoping to have most of his inserts/playing days autos, but there’s literally no shot I can dip my toe in the parallel pool. That’s where the line between collector and investor gets oh so blurry.

Then there’s the added challenge of not being able to fully trust comps at that level.

Maybe we should just buy counterfeit Star Rubies.


What can I say I’m just a collector in a world of hobby investors lol but yeah you’re more or less right


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NotGoSportsBall
09-15-2023, 10:00 PM
I overpaid by about $1500 on a /10 rookie of my PC player that I just had to have. Dude would not budge. I stared at it and tried to haggle for months.

MiamiMarlinsFan
09-16-2023, 06:54 AM
If you made this thread instead of just making the trade right away… that’s your subconscious trying to get you to not do it. Hold off for now, that card is most likely not going anywhere and may be available at a lower price soon. Then you’ll have a PC grail without the nagging doubt.

duron
09-17-2023, 05:22 PM
What can I say I’m just a collector in a world of hobby investors lol but yeah you’re more or less right


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Harper
09-20-2023, 10:08 PM
if i never add another damon, im good with it.

Wow that is a statement! I cannot say the same. I have a collection budget and if cards dried up, I think I’d still use up my budget in some way… either by “overpaying” for cards that are on my watch list, grading, breaking boxes to hunt needs (which is the same as overpaying), IP autograph sessions, travel to large card shows, etc.

mondogenerator
09-21-2023, 02:04 PM
yeah, we're so limited with options here in NZ. It'd be cool to have shows to go to tho!

also, just to clarify - the list of cards missing (PMG Green etc) are so rare and never really turn up so im kind of just expecting that to remain as time goes on and set collectors hide away my cards :P

also, probably like Ron, Damon isnt in a whole lot of releases now and that's likely to get even lower as well over time.

I also collect a bunch of other things, so the money hasnt stopped leaving the wallet, its just going into other things