Kevin Durant Supercollection - Time to Sell???

[steg22]

Hello All,

My apologies if this is not the right forum.

I have a Kevin Durant supercollection I'd like to sell. This collection includes Hundreds of cards #'d /25, dozens of cards #'d /10 or less, and around 80 1/1 cards, including Prizm and Select. I've included a few pictures.

I know this is limited information, but what is the best way to sell this collection?

I would welcome any and all suggestions. Thank you.

[cardrcomeback]

Depends how bad you need the money. But right now seems like one of the worst times to be selling KD. I don't think his market has ever been lower. Better off waiting (if you can).

[jcardstore]

Wow, love the select golds. I was going for that gold concourse set and see where all the durants are lol.

It's going to be tough to sell unless you do it a small amount at a time. Wouldn't want to flood the market if you want to get maximum value.

If you want to sell as a whole you're going to get way way less. Going to be tough to sell such a collection all at once

[90skid]

Best way to sell it is to break it up. As the others have said, if you listed 80 1/1's on ebay and they all end at the same time, you are going to get hosed on value. I can't imagine there's enough buyers to scoop it all up.

You're going to have to take this slow and just sell a few per month, etc. If you need the money fast you gotta list them as $0.99 auctions and let them ride for whatever someone is willing to pay. If you try to list some high price $$ OBO, you'll have watchers but nobody willing to bite (and of course you'll probably get a bunch of low ball offers too). Essentially it'll take you too long if time is of concern.

Good luck with the sales, pretty funny seeing 9 out of 10 select golds all together! haha

[eastbayak]

You have an EPIC collection.

If you don't mind doing the work, reach out to KD supercollectors on IG/FB/etc. You can negotiate prices as you go. Also, list some of your cards on eBay (high buy price with OBO option) to get some exposure (and maybe crazy offers) too.

If you don't want to do the work, list with a consignor but have them space it out. Unfortunately though, you can't foresee what market conditions will be when the cards are listed, and due to nature of auction listings, you're less likely to get top dollar too (because only those individuals who come across the auction of a given timeframe will have the opportunity to bid on a card).

[drobfan8]

I think KD stuff will go up in price down the line when people can appreciate him more. His OKC days were especially awesome.

Those cards bring in set collectors and plenty would be after those 1/1s.

Depends what you paid in the first place.

You could put a few up on ebay with BINs and see what you get offered.

Or let a couple of golds run at auction.

[90sbasketballin]

10000% need to piece it out and space them out to maximize your return, especially in this market.

It seems like you have some extremely valuable cards of KD but times are tough. A collector may not be willing to bid on a Gold Select Concourse BGS 10 no matter how much they love the card if there's also a Flawless 1/1 patch of him also active on auction. Just losing out on additional value by having bidders pick and choose which items they value more.

[eastbayak]

I think KD stuff will go up in price down the line when people can appreciate him more. His OKC days were especially awesome.

Those cards bring in set collectors and plenty would be after those 1/1s.

Depends what you paid in the first place.

You could put a few up on ebay with BINs and see what you get offered.

Or let a couple of golds run at auction.

I wouldn't let a true gold Select run at auction. A lot of true golds (Select as well as non-Select) have come down in price. I believe OP would be better off listing a true gold at a high enough price with OBO. He owns most of the copies so he won't have to worry about another copy becoming available and he'd have full control of sale price. Going that route could net OP an extra couple hundred bucks per card.

And equally important, he'll be able to control the "comp" of the card. If the initial auction ends low, he'll lower the ceiling for his remaining 8 copies (could result in a few thousand dollars less in sales over the 9 true golds he owns).

[cms11]

Depends how bad you need the money. But right now seems like one of the worst times to be selling KD. I don't think his market has ever been lower. Better off waiting (if you can).

It doesn't appear he's going to win another title though and there are still people who think he will.

If he doesn't win a title without Steph, I think his prices will tank.

[asujbl]

Years ago if you have a Time Machine

[boxbuster7]

Depends how bad you need the money. But right now seems like one of the worst times to be selling KD. I don't think his market has ever been lower. Better off waiting (if you can).

agree with this guy...No point in selling now

[90skid]

Waiting for what though? What's gonna happen to make his cards rise in value...

[boxbuster7]

Waiting for what though? What's gonna happen to make his cards rise in value...

first ballot hofer. suns win the finals this year. few possibilities.

[JumpshotMcGavin]

Any Exquisites in your collection?:D

[eastbayak]

first ballot hofer. suns win the finals this year. few possibilities.

I don't think he'll see a significant HOF bump, such prices should already be baked in.

I highly doubt the Suns win it all, but even if they do, it'll be a "KD couldn't get it done without 2 other superstars" argument.

KD would need to win another CHIP on a team with <=1 other superstar to get some hobby respect, otherwise, his prices will probably be similar (though a little better) to Carmelo.

[steg22]

I've noticed that, sometimes, retired players with less accolades and much lower scoring numbers have seen higher sales prices for a specific card than Durant. I've never really known what to think about that.

[steg22]

I have a few Exquisites from 2007-08, but not the RC Auto.

[rainmaker]

Be smart not to put it all up in the same few auctions as others have mentioned. As the new season is starting put some up on ebay, maybe a few here on the boards, a couple at auction houses.

The problem with Durant is his legacy is tarnished. I don’t see any scenario, short of multiple mvp level seasons and another couple titles, where these cards pop again. He is very low on the buy and hold for future roi list these days. A high end collection like this will be more interest to Durant collectors today than tomorrow and these are the folks you target…. This is my take.

You sure would have benefited a great deal doing this a few years ago. At this point test it out on a few platforms and evaluate how to squeeze as much as you can get out of them. Waiting another year or two or after retirement will likely result in lower hammers than what you get today.

Good luck

[cms11]

I don't think he'll see a significant HOF bump, such prices should already be baked in.

I highly doubt the Suns win it all, but even if they do, it'll be a "KD couldn't get it done without 2 other superstars" argument.

KD would need to win another CHIP on a team with <=1 other superstar to get some hobby respect, otherwise, his prices will probably be similar (though a little better) to Carmelo.

Beal isn't a superstar. Those who know won't hold it against him having Booker and Beal, it's hardly a superteam.

[eastbayak]

Beal isn't a superstar. Those who know won't hold it against him having Booker and Beal, it's hardly a superteam.

I don't know man, I can see people holding it against him.

The most-recent arguments are probably "KD couldn't get the job done with a stacked squad of Booker, Ayton, Bridges, CP3, etc" or "KD and his stacked team couldn't even beat the Luka and Brunson duo"

[jcardstore]

Beal isn't a superstar. Those who know won't hold it against him having Booker and Beal, it's hardly a superteam.

Stop lol

[MavsRChamps]

Good lord! My word of advice is unless you need the money asap spread it out a bit, if you literally sell them all this month w/ say a co-signer you’ll devalue the cards quote a bit. A hypothetical Durant collector out there would have to choose which to bid on. Spread them out, sell 5-10 times maybe once a month going forward. Through co-signer individually probably easiest bet. Or can start posting yourself with high buy it nows best offers.

[fabiani12333]

Years ago if you have a Time Machine

Seriously -- I don't get it. Why sell now? We need more context.

[minnesotachill]

I have been selling off my lower end KDs as I am also a super collector of his.

I have been selling thru COMC with pretty good results.

[cdeck22]

Beal isn't a superstar. Those who know won't hold it against him having Booker and Beal, it's hardly a superteam.

Lol..............

[minnesotachill]

I love the argument:

"KD is joining another superteam"


meanwhile, # of All-Stars in Phoenix's line-up = ZERO (Booker was added only after an injury)

[KhalDrogo]

Start listing them tonight. Durant has nowhere to go but down. Some of his cards are below 2019 prices. Cards like his PSA 10 TC Refractor are still more than double 2019 prices. Don’t think there are many hobbyists who are loyal to this bum anymore.

[letsgocapitals]

Beal isn't a superstar. Those who know won't hold it against him having Booker and Beal, it's hardly a superteam.

From someone that has watched A LOT of Wiz games over the years, this is accurate.

[jcardstore]

I love the argument:

"KD is joining another superteam"


meanwhile, # of All-Stars in Phoenix's line-up = ZERO (Booker was added only after an injury)

are you high?

Booker is a 3x all-star (even though that's irrelevant) and he was 1st team all NBA.

He's the best SG in the league.... BO gonna BO like always...

The basketball takes on this site are worse than reddit

[KhalDrogo]

are you high?

Booker is a 3x all-star (even though that's irrelevant) and he was 1st team all NBA.

He's the best SG in the league.... BO gonna BO like always...

The basketball takes on this site are worse than reddit
Minnesotashill still has some Durant TC oranges and Giannis Prizm blue die-cuts to pump.

[Nomad]

I would wait and see if Suns are in the hunt. Time it for that fulcrum moment.

But why break it up? Keep the core at least as a super collection. Or trade it to another Durant supercollector for a diversified equivalent that you can easily offload for.a more predictable net.

[mc1]

Players like Beal, Love and Bosh were never superstars.

Being an all-star doesnt make a player a superstar. Superstars are the top 5 or so players in the league. Its a lie to label a top 25 or top 30 player a superstar.

[jcardstore]

Players like Beal, Love and Bosh were never superstars.

Being an all-star doesnt make a player a superstar. Superstars are the top 5 or so players in the league. Its a lie to label a top 25 or top 30 player a superstar.

Nobody has ever called Beal a superstar.

If you want to argue semantics on the exact meaning of the term fine, but Booker is one of the best players in the NBA.

[hermanotarjeta]

Yes, it’s time to sell,

Sincerely,

2019

[Beavers98]

I'd love to sell some things too. Hope something good pumps his cards so I can move what I have left, but at current prices, it doesn't look great for selling now.

[KhalDrogo]

I'd love to sell some things too. Hope something good pumps his cards so I can move what I have left, but at current prices, it doesn't look great for selling now.
It’s better than any date in the future.

[Braswell10]

Beal isnt the best player be any means, but he averaged 30 ppg for two seasons, so he certainly isnt a scrub.

[gomiamigo]

It doesn't appear he's going to win another title though and there are still people who think he will.

If he doesn't win a title without Steph, I think his prices will tank.

Top 4 team could easily win the title this year, same odds as Denver at FD.

MVP, 3x 2nd place mvp voting
2x Final MVP [not Steph who has only 1], scored on Lebron to ice games/series both Finals.
3rd in playoff scoring average behind MJ and Iverson
4x scoring champ

puts up 50-40-90% shooting seasons
10x All-NBA 1st/2nd team 6/4x
13x All-Star

Likely to finish btw 4/6th on alltime scoring list, 4 years of 1350 pts a year passes Dirk and MJ. Did 26ppg last year. By end of this year likely 8-9th in history.

Beat the Kobe Lakers, Duncan Spurs and Dirk Mavs to face the Lebron Heat in the Finals at OKC.

His prices are definitely not going to tank [any more than the market will.] None of the recent player comps given in this thread are remotely similar to his achievements.

[gomiamigo]

Hello All,

My apologies if this is not the right forum.

I got the Green you were missing BGS 10, in case you were wondering!

[eastbayak]

Top 4 team could easily win the title this year, same odds as Denver at FD.

MVP, 3x 2nd place mvp voting
2x Final MVP [not Steph who has only 1], scored on Lebron to ice games/series both Finals.
3rd in playoff scoring average behind MJ and Iverson
4x scoring champ

puts up 50-40-90% shooting seasons
10x All-NBA 1st/2nd team 6/4x
13x All-Star

Likely to finish btw 4/6th on alltime scoring list, 4 years of 1350 pts a year passes Dirk and MJ. Did 26ppg last year. By end of this year likely 8-9th in history.

Beat the Kobe Lakers, Duncan Spurs and Dirk Mavs to face the Lebron Heat in the Finals at OKC.

His prices are definitely not going to tank [any more than the market will.] None of the recent player comps given in this thread are remotely similar to his achievements.

Are we counting second place medals now?

[steg22]

Top 4 team could easily win the title this year, same odds as Denver at FD.

MVP, 3x 2nd place mvp voting
2x Final MVP [not Steph who has only 1], scored on Lebron to ice games/series both Finals.
3rd in playoff scoring average behind MJ and Iverson
4x scoring champ

puts up 50-40-90% shooting seasons
10x All-NBA 1st/2nd team 6/4x
13x All-Star

Likely to finish btw 4/6th on alltime scoring list, 4 years of 1350 pts a year passes Dirk and MJ. Did 26ppg last year. By end of this year likely 8-9th in history.

Beat the Kobe Lakers, Duncan Spurs and Dirk Mavs to face the Lebron Heat in the Finals at OKC.

His prices are definitely not going to tank [any more than the market will.] None of the recent player comps given in this thread are remotely similar to his achievements.

Not to mention, he has been the best player on every team he's ever been on, even the Warriors.

[Skippy]

Durant is 460 points away from entering the Top 10 all time Scoring Leaders. You can list when he gets closer to that benchmark.

[minnesotachill]

Seeing Lebron take on KD was just so bittersweet for me last night.

I'm coming to grips with the fact that one day both of these players will no longer be in the league.

I grew up watching Jordan, Magic, then Kobe and Garnett in MN. And after they retired, guys like Lebron and KD took the reigns.

Now I look at the new generation of what the NBA has become, and it just makes me sad to know that my interest in basketball will be next to zero.

[gomiamigo]

Are we counting second place medals now?

So jealous of his greatness!

Show us on the doll where Durant hurt you. It's a safe space.

[gomiamigo]

Durant is 460 points away from entering the Top 10 all time Scoring Leaders. You can list when he gets closer to that benchmark.

Nah, pretty sure I'ma list every one. Passing Olajuwon is an accomplishment that should be celebrated.

[KhalDrogo]

His prices are definitely not going to tank [any more than the market will.] None of the recent player comps given in this thread are remotely similar to his achievements.
White Refractor PSA 10 did $20.74k last night. Down from $45.6k in July and $288k at the peak. LOL.

[GOATcards]

Durant is 460 points away from entering the Top 10 all time Scoring Leaders. You can list when he gets closer to that benchmark.

how many games does he miss in the meantime :rolleyes:

(health might be his chief obstacle to reaching 30K+ points)

[GOATcards]

are you high?

Booker is a 3x all-star (even though that's irrelevant) and he was 1st team all NBA.

He's the best SG in the league.... BO gonna BO like always...

The basketball takes on this site are worse than reddit

Booker was a monster in this year's playoffs, Suns took 2 games from the champion Nugs (whereas KD's playoff BPM was somewhere around 4, which is bordlerine all-star level...)

being named all-nba first team is somewhat good evidence that the player is superstar-level (that season). the game's best player was named to the 2nd team last season lol :doh:

[GOATcards]

Seeing Lebron take on KD was just so bittersweet for me last night.

I'm coming to grips with the fact that one day both of these players will no longer be in the league.

I grew up watching Jordan, Magic, then Kobe and Garnett in MN. And after they retired, guys like Lebron and KD took the reigns.

Now I look at the new generation of what the NBA has become, and it just makes me sad to know that my interest in basketball will be next to zero.

:( there's some tremendous talent right now

17-18 Finals would have been fun if Bron had a 2+ MVP shares player on his team or even just an all-nba 2nd team or better player, like the GSW did

wouldn't you be curious to see how a Bucks-Nuggets Finals turns out? Lulu just needs to get a team around him, too bad Zion's usually not healthy, Embiid chokes in the playoffs, Steph/Bron/KD are still exciting to watch play. Anyway I don't mind comparing the likes of Jokic and Giannis to the likes of Jordan and Magic (taking peak only, implicitly adjusting for era and whatnot). Joker looks like a top 5 all-time player based on all the freshers and refreshers of NBA Finals games NBATV puts on over the summer (a DVR can hold only so much...). Jordan and Magic were the most amazing players I've seen at length in the Finals, Joker '23 and Giannis '21 were right up there. I guess I must be underrating prime Bron & Timmy here somehow? But Joker belongs up in that discussion based on recent performances, enjoy him while he lasts :)!

[JumpshotMcGavin]

I posted this on the other thread already but Exquisite Limited Logos BGS 8.5 ended at $10.2k... Lowest since 2018. Not a good time to sell but a good time for people like me to get some of his key cards at solid prices... lol.

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/4058785/2007-exquisite-collection-limited-logos-kevin-durant-rc-patch-auto-50-bgs-85

[minnesotachill]

The autograph running off the side of the card definitely lowers the value some. I think we see these cards relisted over and over so much. Buyers just gonna wait for the next one.

[eastbayak]

I posted this on the other thread already but Exquisite Limited Logos BGS 8.5 ended at $10.2k... Lowest since 2018. Not a good time to sell but a good time for people like me to get some of his key cards at solid prices... lol.

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/4058785/2007-exquisite-collection-limited-logos-kevin-durant-rc-patch-auto-50-bgs-85

Not a bad looking $4k card

[Beavers98]

It’s better than any date in the future.

I get what you're saying, but a deep playoff run or as someone else mentioned maybe a slight window/bump when he cracks top 10 scoring if that can get enough pub. It doesn't look too bright but I think there might be time when some of his Autos and better RC's see an increase.

[theleica]

Looking back at your posting history, you acknowledge selling a 1/1 Durant to Josh Luber so you must have some idea of how to sell the collection. I see this post as nothing more than getting eyes on your collection. I agree with Khal in that selling is better now than any date in the future.

Considering that you moved a card(s) to Josh Luber, how many cards of your Durant Supercollection did you sell previous to making this post?

[KhalDrogo]

I get what you're saying, but a deep playoff run or as someone else mentioned maybe a slight window/bump when he cracks top 10 scoring if that can get enough pub. It doesn't look too bright but I think there might be time when some of his Autos and better RC's see an increase.
By time June rolls around, his market will be cut by another 25-50% from where it is today. So enjoy your 10% bump after that bloodshed.

Just look at the white refractor sale this weekend. $20.7k, down half from the last sale over the summer. The last PSA 10 orange refractor sale was in December 2022 for $28.8k. It would be a win if it could do $10k today. The PSA 10 refractor last sold for $4.5k. That’s headed right back to the February 2020 price of $2.6k.

[Nomad]

so anything short of a finals run will tank his value until he gets traded back to OKC?

[steg22]

Looking back at your posting history, you acknowledge selling a 1/1 Durant to Josh Luber so you must have some idea of how to sell the collection. I see this post as nothing more than getting eyes on your collection. I agree with Khal in that selling is better now than any date in the future.

Considering that you moved a card(s) to Josh Luber, how many cards of your Durant Supercollection did you sell previous to making this post?

I've sold dozens of cards from the supercollection via eBay. I made this post because I wanted some honest opinions about selling entire collections, because I have no experience doing that. I know a lot about selling individual cards and next to nothing about the best way to sell an entire collection.

People noticing that I'm looking to move an entire collection is a bonus.

I would like to thank everyone who gave me their honest opinions.

[sammyjankis]

He’s one of the guys we’re going to appreciate a lot more when he’s gone. Similar to how Tracy McGrady cards are much higher than when he was playing. I definitely wouldn’t sell these now.

[theleica]

I've sold dozens of cards from the supercollection via eBay. I made this post because I wanted some honest opinions about selling entire collections, because I have no experience doing that. I know a lot about selling individual cards and next to nothing about the best way to sell an entire collection.

People noticing that I'm looking to move an entire collection is a bonus.

I would like to thank everyone who gave me their honest opinions.

Oh. It wasn’t clear you wanted to sell the entire collection in a one shot deal. Have you reached out to other super collectors of Durant?

[Nomad]

this blowout forum does not have an active supercollector base from what I see. There are a few who follow the GOATs and at least one who likes Bill Russell. I think facebook groups is the route, considering Durant's generation of collector.

[pejc300]

White Refractor PSA 10 did $20.74k last night. Down from $45.6k in July and $288k at the peak. LOL.

288k for a white refractor. Mother of god.

[ninjacookies]

He's pretty much already encroaching on top 10 all-time status.

However, I think him constantly relocating Romanian gypsy style these past few years really put a nail in his hobby coffin.

He hasn't stayed anywhere long enough to really establish any type of legacy, and his ring-less OKC tenure is a memory most local fans probably already erased from the data bank.

If he ditches the Phoenix experiment within 3 years, then RIP and God Bless.

[drobfan8]

An 19/20 Prizm Gold BGS 9.5 just did $1200+.

Seems a solid price.

I haven't heard of too much interest in his GS stuff. I think anything rare that's sought after will be just fine.

I'm also one that likes a bit of a legacy. I think his OKC stuff from key sets will always do well over time. I believe in his quality Dubs stuff also.

BKN = Nope
Phoenix = we'll see. But probably nope also

[gomiamigo]

With Durant it's like a lot of superstars, the cards you can get any day might keep falling in value. The ones you can't like the original gold prizms go for $14.5k this summer in BGS 9.5.

A Premier RC gold patch auto went for $10k this week.

A BGS 9 LL went for $16k, much higher when there's not a scrub auto going off the card.

A noble Nameplates went for $20k two months ago.

Immaculate game-used shoe cards [the big patch ones] go for $2k. These all seem like solid prices. Nobody thinks he's ever gonna have Lebron prices. We never did.

His RCs, key OKC and GSW will always do well.

Maybe he wins another title in PHX this year - their odds are as good as anyone's in the West [tied with DEN].

Some guys reps inflate in value after retirement, some guys like Malone diminish. KD's will be enhanced over time. But are his cards going to be rock-solid and not drop when the market keeps falling? Definitely not.

[cms11]

He's pretty much already encroaching on top 10 all-time status.

However, I think him constantly relocating Romanian gypsy style these past few years really put a nail in his hobby coffin.

He hasn't stayed anywhere long enough to really establish any type of legacy, and his ring-less OKC tenure is a memory most local fans probably already erased from the data bank.

If he ditches the Phoenix experiment within 3 years, then RIP and God Bless.

He really needs to stay in Phoenix and win a title there. I don't care who he has to bring in to do it, but he's needs another title and it needs to be done without going to another team.

[cms11]

He’s one of the guys we’re going to appreciate a lot more when he’s gone. Similar to how Tracy McGrady cards are much higher than when he was playing. I definitely wouldn’t sell these now.

Not sure if serious. If you're talking about at the end of his career, perhaps, but his cards were the hottest thing in the mid 00's.

[Nomad]

I mean, Kevin Durant is good. He is just not physical enough for today's game and that is no knock on him.

[Kingofkings1281]

I mean, Kevin Durant is good. He is just not physical enough for today's game and that is no knock on him.

He should take notes from the GOAT Aaron Nesmith.

[steg22]

I got the Green you were missing BGS 10, in case you were wondering!

Another question for the group: If you had 4 of the 5 green prizms from a certain year, or 9 of the 10 gold prizms, would you overpay to buy the 5th green prizm or 10th gold prizm to finish the run?

[ninjacookies]

He really needs to stay in Phoenix and win a title there. I don't care who he has to bring in to do it, but he's needs another title and it needs to be done without going to another team.

Don't think a title is ever happening in Phoenix (at least with their roster in current form), but I agree...this is the final bastion of hope for his kardboard sustenance.

No...it's not like his cards will ever be dirt cheap. But they're quite low considering how much unproven rookie high end is selling for, and for all the aforementioned reasons.

[Nomad]

He should take notes from the GOAT Aaron Nesmith.

minutes away from tip off, I am ready to eat humble pie yet again. In my defense, they are now calling Oshae Brissett, fresh from the Pacers, crash 2.0.

[fabiani12333]

He's pretty much already encroaching on top 10 all-time status.

However, I think him constantly relocating Romanian gypsy style these past few years really put a nail in his hobby coffin.

He hasn't stayed anywhere long enough to really establish any type of legacy, and his ring-less OKC tenure is a memory most local fans probably already erased from the data bank.

If he ditches the Phoenix experiment within 3 years, then RIP and God Bless.

Warrior fans beg to differ. In three seasons, he won two championships and did his best to win a third.

I still have my Durant Warriors cards.

[ninjacookies]

Warrior fans beg to differ. In three seasons, he won two championships and did his best to win a third.

I still have my Durant Warriors cards.

He stayed there for 3 seasons. When he could have planted down for another half decade+ to build a potentially legendary dynasty. These are the general optics.

Instead he jumped ship to Brooklyn which was an experiment that fell apart in 2 seasons.

I'm not discounting what he did with GS, but my point still stands: he hasn't found enough solidarity with any particular destination and it hurts his prices.


Would be kind of awesome if he returned to OKC and brings the city its first 'ship though.

[drobfan8]

He stayed there for 3 seasons. When he could have planted down for another half decade+ to build a potentially legendary dynasty. These are the general optics.

Instead he jumped ship to Brooklyn which was an experiment that fell apart in 2 seasons.

I'm not discounting what he did with GS, but my point still stands: he hasn't found enough solidarity with any particular destination and it hurts his prices.


Would be kind of awesome if he returned to OKC and brings the city its first 'ship though.

100%

His insecurity hurt him here.

KD, Steph and the boys would have been chasing Kobe and MJ level of rings, instead KD is left chasing D. Wade tier.

Whilst the Dubs career will be his main highlight, it's really not enough of a stint for it to gloss over the lowlights of BKN and PHO.

I still have Dirk over KD. Nobody could tell me Dirk doesn't win those titles with GS either?

[ninjacookies]

100%

His insecurity hurt him here.

KD, Steph and the boys would have been chasing Kobe and MJ level of rings, instead KD is left chasing D. Wade tier.



What's headscratching is KD already knew the most likely outcome when he headed to GS in the first place. They were the overwhelming favorites to dominate the West, and after already eliminating him the year prior. So him jumping ship right at the point where they looked to establish dominance for the next half-decade or more made zero sense.

He basically pump-n-dumped them for 2 pitstop rings before he caved to twitter chants from 13 year olds.

This is why his legacy can't have nice things.

[GOATcards]

I still have Dirk over KD. Nobody could tell me Dirk doesn't win those titles with GS either?

a bizarre baseline for comparison; any upper-tier HOFer on that GSW team, i.e., paired with Chef Curry, wins those titles if healthy. (and if not healthy, you get '19)

if the claim is that you'd take Dirk over KD going into a playoffs/finals, then that's a different argument

was Dirk's toe on a line at an inopportune moment?

[cms11]

What's headscratching is KD already knew the most likely outcome when he headed to GS in the first place. They were the overwhelming favorites to dominate the West, and after already eliminating him the year prior. So him jumping ship right at the point where they looked to establish dominance for the next half-decade or more made zero sense.

He basically pump-n-dumped them for 2 pitstop rings before he caved to twitter chants from 13 year olds.

This is why his legacy can't have nice things.

No lies told.

[gomiamigo]

His legacy will be pristine and diamond-like. All the Curry stans and Bron stans can spout cap all they want, they're still mad KD was the best player on the court 2 straight NBA Finals resulting in rings for GSW and Finals MVP for KD, who hit multiple game-winning and game-sealing shots over lebron.

Why other players can leave in free agency like Bron and be celebrated for doing so [!] but KD gets the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune tells you what guy they're pumping all over social media and are praying their 401[k] of his high-end cards doesn't get incinerated [any further than it already has]. The collapse in Bron stuff has been.....hoooo boy.

As for the 'why are superstar player X cards worth less than some hot rookie of the day' stuff, that's been happening since 1980. Don't get it twisted.

I remember OJ Mayo and Kevin Love rookie auto RCs outselling Kobe and Lebron on-card autos and a lot more recently than 1980. It all gets fixed at the end of the day.

[TheGZA]

What's headscratching is KD already knew the most likely outcome when he headed to GS in the first place. They were the overwhelming favorites to dominate the West, and after already eliminating him the year prior. So him jumping ship right at the point where they looked to establish dominance for the next half-decade or more made zero sense.

He basically pump-n-dumped them for 2 pitstop rings before he caved to twitter chants from 13 year olds.

This is why his legacy can't have nice things.


One of the few ninja posts I can actually understand (I’m a huge fan btw, I just don’t know pop culture and many of your references).

Anyhoo, he will go down as one of the legit great scorers in league history. When KD is engaged and wants a bucket, he gets a bucket. I don’t think skipping around to mega teams damages his legacy at all. I also think people will forget about the burner account speculation and his thin skin. He’s a phenomenal basketball player


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[gomiamigo]

Lebron can change teams, and Wilt and Moses and Dr J and Kareem, and superstars ad infinitum, somehow it's only a problem when a top 10 alltime player they don't like does it.

Maybe if Stern hadn't let some billionaire steal the Sonics away to OKC, Durant would have stayed forever. We'll never know.

The same idiots bitched when he joined GSW also bitched when he left, no matter what happened they were gonna whine their ignorance all over BO.

[GOATcards]

some players are identified with specific teams:

MJ - Bulls
Mr. Russell, Larry Legend - Celtics
Magic, Kobe - Lakers
Duncan - Spurs
Curry - GSW
Hakeem - Rockets

then you get players like:
Shaq - mainly Lakers then Orlando then Miami
Bron - more Cav than any other, next most seasons are w/Lakers
KD - OKC then GSW
Kareem - mainly Lakers w/Magic, Bucks w/Oscar
Wilt - mainly Sixers and Lakers

so is the question whether, all else being equal, being identified with one team makes a player more collectible? I'd say there's evidence of that...

[kd the sniper]

some players are identified with specific teams:



MJ - Bulls

Mr. Russell, Larry Legend - Celtics

Magic, Kobe - Lakers

Duncan - Spurs

Curry - GSW

Hakeem - Rockets



then you get players like:

Shaq - mainly Lakers then Orlando then Miami

Bron - more Cav than any other, next most seasons are w/Lakers

KD - OKC then GSW

Kareem - mainly Lakers w/Magic, Bucks w/Oscar

Wilt - mainly Sixers and Lakers



so is the question whether, all else being equal, being identified with one team makes a player more collectible? I'd say there's evidence of that...His overall resume will be kds legacy. If he can actually win one with the suns, everything will change for his legacy. it doesn't matter if he's the finals mvp or not imo. But I can guarantee, he will be a HUGE piece of any chip they win!

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[drobfan8]

His legacy will be pristine and diamond-like. All the Curry stans and Bron stans can spout cap all they want, they're still mad KD was the best player on the court 2 straight NBA Finals resulting in rings for GSW and Finals MVP for KD, who hit multiple game-winning and game-sealing shots over lebron.

Why other players can leave in free agency like Bron and be celebrated for doing so [!] but KD gets the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune tells you what guy they're pumping all over social media and are praying their 401[k] of his high-end cards doesn't get incinerated [any further than it already has]. The collapse in Bron stuff has been.....hoooo boy.

As for the 'why are superstar player X cards worth less than some hot rookie of the day' stuff, that's been happening since 1980. Don't get it twisted.

I remember OJ Mayo and Kevin Love rookie auto RCs outselling Kobe and Lebron on-card autos and a lot more recently than 1980. It all gets fixed at the end of the day.

The big difference is that, when LeBron left each time, he won a title with the new team. Winning cures all

KD left a sure thing and made a mess at BKN and then bailed so quickly.

Now he's at Phoenix and they're relying on a 3 headed scoring monster again, just like BKN.

We already know GS won titles before and after he was there. Not a good look. Same if he never gets another title. He might say he's happy with that. But we all know how insecure he is.

I'll keep him below Dirk on my all time list until I see him sack up.

[gomiamigo]

Fastest to 27k points
Wilt
MJ
KAJ
Durant

[kd the sniper]

Fastest to 27k points
Wilt
MJ
KAJ
Durantand that's it!!! [emoji817]

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[kd the sniper]

a healthy FULL year from KD, should pass Shaq for 8th on the all-time list.. in less games .. this year

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[kd the sniper]

You once collected Durant cards... I think you have some really good takes on this thread.. I have to disagree with this one.. No WAY Dirk had/has a better career than KD... No hate on dirk at all!!!! NOTHING but respect. Sounds like you are bitter, that you spent money on his cards and it didn't pan out for you as you thought. Kd has years left to hoop.. I'm just here to watch.. to drobfan8.. thought I tagged you

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[minnesotachill]

They are now calling Durant the "Lone Musketeer", while he carries the team with Booker and Beal being no-shows.

[gomiamigo]

a healthy FULL year from KD, should pass Shaq for 8th on the all-time list.. in less games .. this year

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He'll be top 10 in about 12 games.

[GOATcards]

Fastest to 27k points
Wilt
MJ
KAJ
Durant

Fastest in terms of games played?

KD is 35 years old

since his injury in '19, he's played all of 144 reg.-season games, so it's like, what, 144 x 29 points he's scored in that time, that's like 4200-ish?