View Full Version : James Harden to the Clippers - A Halloween Special
The Accountant
10-31-2023, 01:10 AM
Late night breaking news. 76ers agree to terms to send Harden to the Clippers to pair up with Kawhi and George. No details available yet.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1719233117100142839
ninjacookies
10-31-2023, 01:18 AM
Spearmint Rhino's open til 4.
Should make it just in time before last call.
https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2023/04/084f3-16809572022793-1920.jpg
Ferg1945
10-31-2023, 01:20 AM
Good for Harden.
He's never really been on a good team. I hope he finds happiness in Los Angeles.
Siberian13
10-31-2023, 01:26 AM
What a mess that was. At least they got rid of him finally. Now all 3 can be injured together on the Clippers.
rustywest
10-31-2023, 01:51 AM
https://i.gifer.com/Qjjo.gif
kingofsnake
10-31-2023, 01:55 AM
Underwhelming return for the Sixers. As always, James gets what he wants.
yiguiri2002
10-31-2023, 02:05 AM
Spearmint Rhino's open til 4.
Should make it just in time before last call.
https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2023/04/084f3-16809572022793-1920.jpg
I was wondering why there were fireworks on Halloween.
Strippers are celebrating like they just won the Super Bowl.
rustywest
10-31-2023, 04:18 AM
As a Clipper fan, I strongly dislike this - actually, I'm pretty gutted. I liked our team, there was clear chemistry brewing and they had the optimal balance of star and role play. Russ had found the perfect role setting the table and Bones was developing nicely as the backup ballhandler. Lue had finally addressed the elephant from last season, reversing DNP's betweeb RoCo and Morris Sr, with RoCo's hands and activity making an immediate impact. The team was playing D and the only real flaw (other than health) in the roster was rebounding/size in the front-court which Utah exposed badly on offensive glass. So they went ahead and made the team smaller and worse on D, leading me into the dreaded conclusion here comes more small-ball lineups.
The Clippers were flying under the radar and I liked that. - Now we have heaped unnecessary scrutiny and large amounts of pressure on the squad. When was the last time 4 stars made it work? Older stars too... it just doesn't bode well in today's fast paced NBA.
I don't enjoy Harden's style of play, and I don't think many of his teammates do either. His usage, his dribble dribble dribble step back 3. The foul-baiting. His laziness on D, giving up on plays etc. and everybody knows about the well documented off-court ethic - That sh*t's just not conducive to keeping the body in optimal shape.
Russ and Harden made it work in Houston, but that's because there weren't 2 other stars to feed.
Perhaps in the alternate universe from what mainstream media portrays, Harden has agreed to become the super 6 man reminiscent of the OKC tenure. Less minutes, more effort on D. Just like the way Russ has sacrificed and evolved unselfishly for the benefit of his team. CP3 is another example, Harden needs to follow suit. Don't be like LeBron, who at 39 selfishly refuses to sacrifice for his team because of his own personal goals (hence why the Lakers are the league biggest pretenders.) Harden taking sacrifice, if that manifests I can see a positive path forward... actually somewhat hopeful thinking about his friendship with Russ, the 4 SoCal guys together but not exactly holding my breath.
So thinking about some positives, they didn't give up Mann and the OFFENSIVE FIREPOWER on this team is off the charts. In my opinion there is more firepower here then Phoenix. Take a look - PG, Whi, Harden, Russ, Norm, Bones. The other BIG positive is something I'm not wanting at all but tremendous insurance for often injured stars. If one of the big 4 is injured, the team isn't going to skip a beat and could in all likelihood perform better in some combinations of the 3.
A couple words on the outgoing guys, RoCo is a huge loss. Completely under utilized and underrated as a extremely versatile, switchable defender with a big motor. Long arms and great hands. A perfect glue guy for that team. Replaced by an aging Tucker. I haven't watched him closely for a couple years, but I'm guessing isn't the impactful defender he once was. Anybody got the solid intel on PJ's form? Again, I'm guessing we are going to see plenty of the dreaded small ball lineups with him at 5 and the team leaking crucial offensive rebounds.
Batum is looking real old, but a very smart player and a great locker room vet. Sad to see him gone. Still very serviceable and versatile in limited minutes.
Morris seems cooked, was dead-weight at this point but by other accounts was a great troop for the Clippers in previous seasons (last year not withstanding).
KJ looked rough but wasn't really given much of a chance to run on the 2nd unit.
Filip Petrusev? Never heard of him.
Feel better getting that out, but it soured my day completely. This move is directly going to effect the way Russ and Bones had been carving out roles. Bones also has a track record of throwing toys out of the cot when things go south. Hopefully I'm wrong and these guys figure it out. It just hurts me inside because the team was developing a genuine identity and Harden's track record just doesn't fit with that? Less D more O. More stars, less roll the sleeve up dirty workers. Much increased off ball movement from everybody (stars included) - last I recall Harden is an absolute statue off ball. Its not the way I'd prefer to construct a roster but they went and did it!
I wonder if Harden will be ready for the back end of the upcoming back 2 back vs the Lakers?
Moneychrome20
10-31-2023, 04:46 AM
As a Clipper fan, I strongly dislike this - actually, I'm pretty gutted. I liked our team, there was clear chemistry brewing and they had the optimal balance of star and role play. Russ had found the perfect role setting the table and Bones was developing nicely as the backup ballhandler. Lue had finally addressed the elephant from last season, reversing DNP's betweeb RoCo and Morris Sr, with RoCo's hands and activity making an immediate impact. The team was playing D and the only real flaw (other than health) in the roster was rebounding/size in the front-court which Utah exposed badly on offensive glass. So they went ahead and made the team smaller and worse on D, leading me into the dreaded conclusion here comes more small-ball lineups.
The Clippers were flying under the radar and I liked that. - Now we have heaped unnecessary scrutiny and large amounts of pressure on the squad. When was the last time 4 stars made it work? Older stars too... it just doesn't bode well in today's fast paced NBA.
I don't enjoy Harden's style of play, and I don't think many of his teammates do either. His usage, his dribble dribble dribble step back 3. The foul-baiting. His laziness on D, giving up on plays etc. and everybody knows about the well documented off-court ethic - That sh*t's just not conducive to keeping the body in optimal shape.
Russ and Harden made it work in Houston, but that's because there weren't 2 other stars to feed.
Perhaps in the alternate universe from what mainstream media portrays, Harden has agreed to become the super 6 man reminiscent of the OKC tenure. Less minutes, more effort on D. Just like the way Russ has sacrificed and evolved unselfishly for the benefit of his team. CP3 is another example, Harden needs to follow suit. Don't be like LeBron, who at 39 selfishly refuses to sacrifice for his team because of his own personal goals (hence why the Lakers are the league biggest pretenders.) Harden taking sacrifice, if that manifests I can see a positive path forward... actually somewhat hopeful thinking about his friendship with Russ, the 4 SoCal guys together but not exactly holding my breath.
So thinking about some positives, they didn't give up Mann and the OFFENSIVE FIREPOWER on this team is off the charts. In my opinion there is more firepower here then Phoenix. Take a look - PG, Whi, Harden, Russ, Norm, Bones. The other BIG positive is something I'm not wanting at all but tremendous insurance for often injured stars. If one of the big 4 is injured, the team isn't going to skip a beat and could in all likelihood perform better in some combinations of the 3.
A couple words on the outgoing guys, RoCo is a huge loss. Completely under utilized and underrated as a extremely versatile, switchable defender with a big motor. Long arms and great hands. A perfect glue guy for that team. Replaced by an aging Tucker. I haven't watched him closely for a couple years, but I'm guessing isn't the impactful defender he once was. Anybody got the solid intel on PJ's form? Again, I'm guessing we are going to see plenty of the dreaded small ball lineups with him at 5 and the team leaking crucial offensive rebounds.
Batum is looking real old, but a very smart player and a great locker room vet. Sad to see him gone. Still very serviceable and versatile in limited minutes.
Morris seems cooked, was dead-weight at this point but by other accounts was a great troop for the Clippers in previous seasons (last year not withstanding).
KJ looked rough but wasn't really given much of a chance to run on the 2nd unit.
Filip Petrusev? Never heard of him.
Feel better getting that out, but it soured my day completely. This move is directly going to effect the way Russ and Bones had been carving out roles. Bones also has a track record of throwing toys out of the cot when things go south. Hopefully I'm wrong and these guys figure it out. It just hurts me inside because the team was developing a genuine identity and Harden's track record just doesn't fit with that? Less D more O. More stars, less roll the sleeve up dirty workers. Much increased off ball movement from everybody (stars included) - last I recall Harden is an absolute statue off ball. Its not the way I'd prefer to construct a roster but they went and did it!
I wonder if Harden will be ready for the back end of the upcoming back 2 back vs the Lakers?
What a huge blob of nonsense for lack of better words
Ferg1945
10-31-2023, 04:58 AM
As a Clipper fan,
Wait..... what?
You're a Clippers fan?
packman80
10-31-2023, 05:25 AM
Harden a guy who's been living on name alone the last 5 seasons. Has not average over 25 points a game nor played even in 60 games in any season in that span. Past his prime and overpaid.
Moneychrome20
10-31-2023, 05:39 AM
Harden a guy who's been living on name alone the last 5 seasons. Has not average over 25 points a game nor played even in 60 games in any season in that span. Past his prime and overpaid.
Your argument lost all credibility within seconds because he has average over 25 within last 5 seasons and just led the nba in assist last year
Do you even look stuff up before you type
Obviously not
KhalDrogo
10-31-2023, 05:44 AM
Where are all the people who said Morey was a genius? What a dope.
TheHeel
10-31-2023, 06:07 AM
As a Clipper fan, I strongly dislike this - actually, I'm pretty gutted. I liked our team, there was clear chemistry brewing and they had the optimal balance of star and role play. Russ had found the perfect role setting the table and Bones was developing nicely as the backup ballhandler. Lue had finally addressed the elephant from last season, reversing DNP's betweeb RoCo and Morris Sr, with RoCo's hands and activity making an immediate impact. The team was playing D and the only real flaw (other than health) in the roster was rebounding/size in the front-court which Utah exposed badly on offensive glass. So they went ahead and made the team smaller and worse on D, leading me into the dreaded conclusion here comes more small-ball lineups.
The Clippers were flying under the radar and I liked that. - Now we have heaped unnecessary scrutiny and large amounts of pressure on the squad. When was the last time 4 stars made it work? Older stars too... it just doesn't bode well in today's fast paced NBA.
I don't enjoy Harden's style of play, and I don't think many of his teammates do either. His usage, his dribble dribble dribble step back 3. The foul-baiting. His laziness on D, giving up on plays etc. and everybody knows about the well documented off-court ethic - That sh*t's just not conducive to keeping the body in optimal shape.
Russ and Harden made it work in Houston, but that's because there weren't 2 other stars to feed.
Perhaps in the alternate universe from what mainstream media portrays, Harden has agreed to become the super 6 man reminiscent of the OKC tenure. Less minutes, more effort on D. Just like the way Russ has sacrificed and evolved unselfishly for the benefit of his team. CP3 is another example, Harden needs to follow suit. Don't be like LeBron, who at 39 selfishly refuses to sacrifice for his team because of his own personal goals (hence why the Lakers are the league biggest pretenders.) Harden taking sacrifice, if that manifests I can see a positive path forward... actually somewhat hopeful thinking about his friendship with Russ, the 4 SoCal guys together but not exactly holding my breath.
So thinking about some positives, they didn't give up Mann and the OFFENSIVE FIREPOWER on this team is off the charts. In my opinion there is more firepower here then Phoenix. Take a look - PG, Whi, Harden, Russ, Norm, Bones. The other BIG positive is something I'm not wanting at all but tremendous insurance for often injured stars. If one of the big 4 is injured, the team isn't going to skip a beat and could in all likelihood perform better in some combinations of the 3.
A couple words on the outgoing guys, RoCo is a huge loss. Completely under utilized and underrated as a extremely versatile, switchable defender with a big motor. Long arms and great hands. A perfect glue guy for that team. Replaced by an aging Tucker. I haven't watched him closely for a couple years, but I'm guessing isn't the impactful defender he once was. Anybody got the solid intel on PJ's form? Again, I'm guessing we are going to see plenty of the dreaded small ball lineups with him at 5 and the team leaking crucial offensive rebounds.
Batum is looking real old, but a very smart player and a great locker room vet. Sad to see him gone. Still very serviceable and versatile in limited minutes.
Morris seems cooked, was dead-weight at this point but by other accounts was a great troop for the Clippers in previous seasons (last year not withstanding).
KJ looked rough but wasn't really given much of a chance to run on the 2nd unit.
Filip Petrusev? Never heard of him.
Feel better getting that out, but it soured my day completely. This move is directly going to effect the way Russ and Bones had been carving out roles. Bones also has a track record of throwing toys out of the cot when things go south. Hopefully I'm wrong and these guys figure it out. It just hurts me inside because the team was developing a genuine identity and Harden's track record just doesn't fit with that? Less D more O. More stars, less roll the sleeve up dirty workers. Much increased off ball movement from everybody (stars included) - last I recall Harden is an absolute statue off ball. Its not the way I'd prefer to construct a roster but they went and did it!
I wonder if Harden will be ready for the back end of the upcoming back 2 back vs the Lakers?
Great write up.
PKIPP
10-31-2023, 06:09 AM
Harden a guy who's been living on name alone the last 5 seasons. Has not average over 25 points a game nor played even in 60 games in any season in that span. Past his prime and overpaid.
I mean either way you want to look at this, you just flat out lied for the sake of your own personal vendetta.. He played 65 in 2021-22 and averaged 34+ in 2019-20.
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PKIPP
10-31-2023, 06:13 AM
To be honest this gives me 1998 NWO vibes, and I totally dig it.
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jcardstore
10-31-2023, 06:34 AM
As a Clipper fan, I strongly dislike this - actually, I'm pretty gutted. I liked our team, there was clear chemistry brewing and they had the optimal balance of star and role play. Russ had found the perfect role setting the table and Bones was developing nicely as the backup ballhandler. Lue had finally addressed the elephant from last season, reversing DNP's betweeb RoCo and Morris Sr, with RoCo's hands and activity making an immediate impact. The team was playing D and the only real flaw (other than health) in the roster was rebounding/size in the front-court which Utah exposed badly on offensive glass. So they went ahead and made the team smaller and worse on D, leading me into the dreaded conclusion here comes more small-ball lineups.
The Clippers were flying under the radar and I liked that. - Now we have heaped unnecessary scrutiny and large amounts of pressure on the squad. When was the last time 4 stars made it work? Older stars too... it just doesn't bode well in today's fast paced NBA.
I don't enjoy Harden's style of play, and I don't think many of his teammates do either. His usage, his dribble dribble dribble step back 3. The foul-baiting. His laziness on D, giving up on plays etc. and everybody knows about the well documented off-court ethic - That sh*t's just not conducive to keeping the body in optimal shape.
Russ and Harden made it work in Houston, but that's because there weren't 2 other stars to feed.
Perhaps in the alternate universe from what mainstream media portrays, Harden has agreed to become the super 6 man reminiscent of the OKC tenure. Less minutes, more effort on D. Just like the way Russ has sacrificed and evolved unselfishly for the benefit of his team. CP3 is another example, Harden needs to follow suit. Don't be like LeBron, who at 39 selfishly refuses to sacrifice for his team because of his own personal goals (hence why the Lakers are the league biggest pretenders.) Harden taking sacrifice, if that manifests I can see a positive path forward... actually somewhat hopeful thinking about his friendship with Russ, the 4 SoCal guys together but not exactly holding my breath.
So thinking about some positives, they didn't give up Mann and the OFFENSIVE FIREPOWER on this team is off the charts. In my opinion there is more firepower here then Phoenix. Take a look - PG, Whi, Harden, Russ, Norm, Bones. The other BIG positive is something I'm not wanting at all but tremendous insurance for often injured stars. If one of the big 4 is injured, the team isn't going to skip a beat and could in all likelihood perform better in some combinations of the 3.
A couple words on the outgoing guys, RoCo is a huge loss. Completely under utilized and underrated as a extremely versatile, switchable defender with a big motor. Long arms and great hands. A perfect glue guy for that team. Replaced by an aging Tucker. I haven't watched him closely for a couple years, but I'm guessing isn't the impactful defender he once was. Anybody got the solid intel on PJ's form? Again, I'm guessing we are going to see plenty of the dreaded small ball lineups with him at 5 and the team leaking crucial offensive rebounds.
Batum is looking real old, but a very smart player and a great locker room vet. Sad to see him gone. Still very serviceable and versatile in limited minutes.
Morris seems cooked, was dead-weight at this point but by other accounts was a great troop for the Clippers in previous seasons (last year not withstanding).
KJ looked rough but wasn't really given much of a chance to run on the 2nd unit.
Filip Petrusev? Never heard of him.
Feel better getting that out, but it soured my day completely. This move is directly going to effect the way Russ and Bones had been carving out roles. Bones also has a track record of throwing toys out of the cot when things go south. Hopefully I'm wrong and these guys figure it out. It just hurts me inside because the team was developing a genuine identity and Harden's track record just doesn't fit with that? Less D more O. More stars, less roll the sleeve up dirty workers. Much increased off ball movement from everybody (stars included) - last I recall Harden is an absolute statue off ball. Its not the way I'd prefer to construct a roster but they went and did it!
I wonder if Harden will be ready for the back end of the upcoming back 2 back vs the Lakers?
These are definitely words
oldgoldy97
10-31-2023, 07:26 AM
These are definitely words
He lasted two whole sentences before making it about Russ. A personal record.
brothertona
10-31-2023, 07:43 AM
He even tossed in a Lebron jab, quite impressive.
mjekase
10-31-2023, 07:47 AM
Underwhelming return for the Sixers. As always, James gets what he wants.
Big picture, it's a solid haul for the sake of flexibility. Expiring contracts gives them a ton of space next summer, and a good number of picks to use in future deals. I'd like to think Martin is going to stick around, as he'd be a great fit in Nurse's system (and only 22). But he may get moved for something else.
jcardstore
10-31-2023, 07:48 AM
He lasted two whole sentences before making it about Russ. A personal record.
you made it farther than I did :cry:
cowboyfaninlr
10-31-2023, 07:50 AM
As a Sixer fan I'm so glad the cancer that is James Harden is gone...GL Clipper fans :)
XSidneyX
10-31-2023, 07:53 AM
As a Sixer fan I'm so glad the cancer that is James Harden is gone...GL Clipper fans :)
same....dude is a bum at this point. Total cancer and glad to see him go. Maxey is playing just fine anyway.
oldgoldy97
10-31-2023, 07:55 AM
you made it farther than I did :cry:
Yeah, I wanted to see how far in it was before he brought his guy up.
Then I stopped.
same....dude is a bum at this point. Total cancer and glad to see him go. Maxey is playing just fine anyway.And yet there's still another team that thinks he will change once he comes to their team.
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6celtics33
10-31-2023, 08:05 AM
To be honest this gives me 1998 NWO vibes, and I totally dig it.
https://media2.giphy.com/media/jsIa27uLZIipbir5yo/giphy.gif
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Unfortunately it’ll be the late iterations like Wolfpack or whatever came after. Original nwo was Lebron Wade and bosh.
6celtics33
10-31-2023, 08:06 AM
I can’t even look at it. Hate it for Kawhi.
jcardstore
10-31-2023, 08:06 AM
Yeah, I wanted to see how far in it was before he brought his guy up.
Then I stopped.
#1 Clippers fan here!!!
packman80
10-31-2023, 08:31 AM
Your argument lost all credibility within seconds because he has average over 25 within last 5 seasons and just led the nba in assist last year
Do you even look stuff up before you type
Obviously not
Clearly you are a Harden fan or a fool. 25 points for what he's paid and how little he's on the court he's not worth what he gets. But go pretend in your world he's a top player and not a guy who is a locker room cancer.
packman80
10-31-2023, 08:33 AM
I mean either way you want to look at this, you just flat out lied for the sake of your own personal vendetta.. He played 65 in 2021-22 and averaged 34+ in 2019-20.
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Ok the last 4 years then he has failed to play in 60 games or more. Or maybe you just want to nit pick because you love Harden who's a NBA cancer.
Moneychrome20
10-31-2023, 08:36 AM
Clearly you are a Harden fan or a fool. 25 points for what he's paid and how little he's on the court he's not worth what he gets. But go pretend in your world he's a top player and not a guy who is a locker room cancer.
Clearly u a lie go look up stats before u type them. Fool
JustinVerlander07
10-31-2023, 08:36 AM
Clearly you are a Harden fan or a fool. 25 points for what he's paid and how little he's on the court he's not worth what he gets. But go pretend in your world he's a top player and not a guy who is a locker room cancer.
Ok the last 4 years then he has failed to play in 60 games or more. Or maybe you just want to nit pick because you love Harden who's a NBA cancer.
Love it. When proven wrong this is how you act. Nothing new for you!
There's been nothing to suggest he's a locker room cancer as much as I wouldn't want him anywhere on my team because he'll cry and want out a year later. But there's been little so far to suggest his teammates from Houston/Brooklyn/Philly thought he was a cancer.
tconte
10-31-2023, 09:11 AM
As a Sixers fan, I am so glad the dough boy is gone. He's not a winner.
GOATcards
10-31-2023, 10:42 AM
https://i.gifer.com/Qjjo.gif
:cry:
fumanchu
10-31-2023, 10:43 AM
as a clippers fan, i am not happy. i feel like this will ruin the chemistry.
GOATcards
10-31-2023, 10:44 AM
As a Clipper fan, I strongly dislike this - actually, I'm pretty gutted. I liked our team, there was clear chemistry brewing and they had the optimal balance of star and role play. Russ had found the perfect role setting the table and Bones was developing nicely as the backup ballhandler. Lue had finally addressed the elephant from last season, reversing DNP's betweeb RoCo and Morris Sr, with RoCo's hands and activity making an immediate impact. The team was playing D and the only real flaw (other than health) in the roster was rebounding/size in the front-court which Utah exposed badly on offensive glass. So they went ahead and made the team smaller and worse on D, leading me into the dreaded conclusion here comes more small-ball lineups.
The Clippers were flying under the radar and I liked that. - Now we have heaped unnecessary scrutiny and large amounts of pressure on the squad. When was the last time 4 stars made it work? Older stars too... it just doesn't bode well in today's fast paced NBA.
I don't enjoy Harden's style of play, and I don't think many of his teammates do either. His usage, his dribble dribble dribble step back 3. The foul-baiting. His laziness on D, giving up on plays etc. and everybody knows about the well documented off-court ethic - That sh*t's just not conducive to keeping the body in optimal shape.
Russ and Harden made it work in Houston, but that's because there weren't 2 other stars to feed.
Perhaps in the alternate universe from what mainstream media portrays, Harden has agreed to become the super 6 man reminiscent of the OKC tenure. Less minutes, more effort on D. Just like the way Russ has sacrificed and evolved unselfishly for the benefit of his team. CP3 is another example, Harden needs to follow suit. Don't be like LeBron, who at 39 selfishly refuses to sacrifice for his team because of his own personal goals (hence why the Lakers are the league biggest pretenders.) Harden taking sacrifice, if that manifests I can see a positive path forward... actually somewhat hopeful thinking about his friendship with Russ, the 4 SoCal guys together but not exactly holding my breath.
So thinking about some positives, they didn't give up Mann and the OFFENSIVE FIREPOWER on this team is off the charts. In my opinion there is more firepower here then Phoenix. Take a look - PG, Whi, Harden, Russ, Norm, Bones. The other BIG positive is something I'm not wanting at all but tremendous insurance for often injured stars. If one of the big 4 is injured, the team isn't going to skip a beat and could in all likelihood perform better in some combinations of the 3.
A couple words on the outgoing guys, RoCo is a huge loss. Completely under utilized and underrated as a extremely versatile, switchable defender with a big motor. Long arms and great hands. A perfect glue guy for that team. Replaced by an aging Tucker. I haven't watched him closely for a couple years, but I'm guessing isn't the impactful defender he once was. Anybody got the solid intel on PJ's form? Again, I'm guessing we are going to see plenty of the dreaded small ball lineups with him at 5 and the team leaking crucial offensive rebounds.
Batum is looking real old, but a very smart player and a great locker room vet. Sad to see him gone. Still very serviceable and versatile in limited minutes.
Morris seems cooked, was dead-weight at this point but by other accounts was a great troop for the Clippers in previous seasons (last year not withstanding).
KJ looked rough but wasn't really given much of a chance to run on the 2nd unit.
Filip Petrusev? Never heard of him.
Feel better getting that out, but it soured my day completely. This move is directly going to effect the way Russ and Bones had been carving out roles. Bones also has a track record of throwing toys out of the cot when things go south. Hopefully I'm wrong and these guys figure it out. It just hurts me inside because the team was developing a genuine identity and Harden's track record just doesn't fit with that? Less D more O. More stars, less roll the sleeve up dirty workers. Much increased off ball movement from everybody (stars included) - last I recall Harden is an absolute statue off ball. Its not the way I'd prefer to construct a roster but they went and did it!
I wonder if Harden will be ready for the back end of the upcoming back 2 back vs the Lakers?
tldr version: bringing Harden to a team is detrimental
strain r n is rainbow belts 3.0
asujbl
10-31-2023, 10:45 AM
Most “experts” love what the Sixers got so that’s interesting
Simmons mentioned up to 100M in expiring contracts to bring in someone better? I didn’t confirm those numbers but damn
Plus the picks
GOATcards
10-31-2023, 10:52 AM
Beard Harden holds a certain kind of tabloid-like fascination with NBA fans, he epitomizes a bunch of what people dislike about the game (although when you see his prime-years ISO highlight reels, not coupled with his Shaqtin' reel......., you can see why he was in yearly MVP discussions, and not just balloting discussions but top-dog honors).
he flops
he Shaqtin's
he chokes
he quits
he's no longer in his prime
perhaps morey is still a liar and no one should play for him
49ersSF
10-31-2023, 11:14 AM
Great trade for Philly.
They got rid of a team cancer and two contracts that still had 2 years left for 4 expiring contracts that can be much more easily moved before the deadline to a team looking to move players for expiring contracts. Of course they added some draft stock as well.
yiguiri2002
10-31-2023, 11:37 AM
I don't get why people are hating on the Sixers side of the trade.
Harden's an expiring making 35M. PJ is pretty much washed and still making over 10M the next two years. How much was Harden getting this past offseason on a 1 year deal? I don't think he would have gotten even 40M.
They take on 30M of "dead money" for two first rounders and a pick swap. RoCo and KJ are decent rotation players, specially for the money.
I think this also puts them in a prime position to trade Tobi and some of those picks for a better player.
GOATcards
10-31-2023, 11:45 AM
so you pair up one of the most klutch players of all time in Kawhi, with an all-time choker in Beard, it becomes like an irresistable force meets immovable object if they're both healthy come playoff time?
GOATcards
10-31-2023, 11:47 AM
Ballmer gonna put up with Beard's choking ways?
GOATcards
10-31-2023, 11:50 AM
Beard Harden holds a certain kind of tabloid-like fascination with NBA fans, he epitomizes a bunch of what people dislike about the game (although when you see his prime-years ISO highlight reels, not coupled with his Shaqtin' reel......., you can see why he was in yearly MVP discussions, and not just balloting discussions but top-dog honors).
he flops
he Shaqtin's
he chokes
he quits
he's no longer in his prime
perhaps morey is still a liar and no one should play for him
omg this blooper reel is 14 minutes long
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oldgoldy97
10-31-2023, 12:22 PM
What was your best attribute as an NBA player?
I was a great expiring contract.
Nomad
10-31-2023, 01:49 PM
I am prolly among the few that believe that Kawhi, whom I often compare with crash, will be successful in putting Harden to work.
mfw13
10-31-2023, 02:13 PM
the OFFENSIVE FIREPOWER on this team is off the charts. In my opinion there is more firepower here then Phoenix. Take a look - PG, Whi, Harden, Russ, Norm, Bones.
The problem with offensive firepower is that there is still only one basketball, and only one person can shoot it at a time....
Personally, I think Harden and his iso-ball are much more likely to hurt the Clippers offense than help it....
ninjacookies
10-31-2023, 07:33 PM
Strangely enough, I think this experiment may somewhat work.
He's an LA native, and Ballmer has pretty much been without incident when it comes to player relations.
And he's great personal friends with WB.
Yes, the risk always exists with strip club patron, but if it's one place that could possibly somewhat salvage his PR relations - it's LA.
It's not like he's completely washed. He's consistently been a top 3 distributor for the greater part of this last decade and still chips in 20+ a night.
rats60
10-31-2023, 07:56 PM
Ballmer gonna put up with Beard's choking ways?
He already traded for Westbrook.
cms11
10-31-2023, 09:07 PM
I am prolly among the few that believe that Kawhi, whom I often compare with crash, will be successful in putting Harden to work.
It's either going to work or blow up spectacularly.
shakobe
10-31-2023, 09:36 PM
He already traded for Westbrook.
No he didn’t. Westbrook was bought out by the Jazz and he signed a min deal or something like that to go to the Clippers
drobfan8
10-31-2023, 11:49 PM
I actually think this works to some degree also.
Can they win a title? Maybe. They have Kawhi. PG is pretty inconsistent though, but can go on runs.
They should be high up int he standings, can they beat a Denver? Not sure.
Harden's last chance surely. I'm just annoyed he got what he wanted. I wish these types would get screwed over more.
rustywest
11-09-2023, 09:21 AM
The Clippers are a mess right now. Only 2 games with Harden but they haven't cracked 100. 3 straight losses since the trade...
rustywest
11-09-2023, 10:03 AM
Great write up.
Thanks, its good to know there are still people out here capable of reading more than a paragraph. And it was a fresh wound...
He even tossed in a Lebron jab, quite impressive.
No worries, LeBron has tricked a large portion of the Laker fanbase. I'm happy to discuss if you are civil...
I can’t even look at it. Hate it for Kawhi.
Agreed. Right now, I feel sorry for Whi. But I'm curious, how did you feel for Whi when Russ joined the Clippers? 99% of 'experts' said Russ was washed but he looked stellar alongside Leonard and I even read someplace both he and PG were getting the best looks of their career. They are going to have to stagger Russ & Harden for this bogus trade to look halfway decent.
as a clippers fan, i am not happy. i feel like this will ruin the chemistry.
Super early returns are in and its not looking good...
I don't get why people are hating on the Sixers side of the trade.
Harden's an expiring making 35M. PJ is pretty much washed and still making over 10M the next two years. How much was Harden getting this past offseason on a 1 year deal? I don't think he would have gotten even 40M.
They take on 30M of "dead money" for two first rounders and a pick swap. RoCo and KJ are decent rotation players, specially for the money.
I think this also puts them in a prime position to trade Tobi and some of those picks for a better player.
You are forgetting Batum, both he and RoCo are sorely missed already in Clipperland. KM Jr is a project, he has limitations but if you can utilize his strengths he has something. Youth and athleticism is very useful for the reg season grind! I'm on PJ bucket watch, I'll take the under on 1.5 field goals per game. I think PJ has some utility against bigger, slower Centers/Forwards but they are a dime a dozen in the modern NBA. He gets blown by when he presses up and his 'famous' corner 3 has left the building. If he can snare 3 offensive boards a game its a win at this point LoL
The problem with offensive firepower is that there is still only one basketball, and only one person can shoot it at a time....
Personally, I think Harden and his iso-ball are much more likely to hurt the Clippers offense than help it....
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KhalDrogo
11-11-2023, 12:20 AM
:cry: :cry: :cry:
yiguiri2002
11-11-2023, 12:30 AM
Trade's looking great for the Sixers. Batum and RoCo look like legit rotation players and complement Embiid.
ninjacookies
11-11-2023, 12:57 AM
He's actually shooting quite efficiently. But barely shooting.
Also, Worstbrook needs to go back to the bench and lead the second squad. Strip Club Patron's still the better distributor and shooter. The current lineup makes zero sense.
drobfan8
11-11-2023, 06:07 AM
Kawhi looked like he actually tried this game.
Man was PG bad.
Great win for Dallas.
pingbling23
11-11-2023, 10:33 AM
Worstbrook :p:p:p
gomiamigo
11-11-2023, 10:45 AM
Trade looking amazing for 76ers, getting off Harden and the PJ contract, two great rotational players added so they have depth for the first time in 10+ years, 2 firsts, a pick swap and 2 2nds added, all expiring deals....Daryl confirmed genius.
spurs50fan
11-11-2023, 11:58 AM
Just saw it but that Mavs announcer went IN :eek:
yiguiri2002
11-11-2023, 12:54 PM
Trade looking amazing for 76ers, getting off Harden and the PJ contract, two great rotational players added so they have depth for the first time in 10+ years, 2 firsts, a pick swap and 2 2nds added, all expiring deals....Daryl confirmed genius.
It's still crazy to me that people thought it was a bad trade when it happened. Harden's value was at an all time low, they got plenty of assets on the trade. And I'm higher on Harden than most I think.
Just saw it but that Mavs announcer went IN :eek:
All-time rant. Didn't skip a beat, to the point, extremely rational and quick. Man was spitting facts.
TheGZA
11-11-2023, 04:17 PM
Just saw it but that Mavs announcer went IN :eek:
An all-timer takedown of a player. Goodness. And nothing he said was wrong
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GOATcards
11-11-2023, 05:29 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/mavericks-announcer-obliterates-harden-youre-064733024.html
KhalDrogo
11-12-2023, 07:14 PM
:cry: :cry: :cry:
ninjacookies
11-12-2023, 08:28 PM
Still a super weird fit. James is designed to be the full time pg (dude averaged nearly 11 dimes with Philly), but yet they still have him splitting duties with WB?
At least have a suitable plan in place if you're acquiring a player.
Either place him or WB in staggered configurations leading different units or don't play them at all. Because both in the backcourt is idiocy.
I enjoyed watching James on the Sixers and he definitely should have been All Star last year but I guess that wasn't enough for him. Not sure what the guy needs to be happy but I don't think he's going to find it on the Clippers.
Round Mound
11-13-2023, 04:09 AM
I enjoyed watching James on the Sixers and he definitely should have been All Star last year but I guess that wasn't enough for him. Not sure what the guy needs to be happy but I don't think he's going to find it on the Clippers.
He wants to be surrounded by stars who can each score 30pts with only touches in the last 3 seconds of the 20% possessions where he doesn't shoot the ball himself. His teammates also need to be experts at defending 4 on 5.
fumanchu
11-13-2023, 10:55 AM
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gomiamigo
11-13-2023, 12:11 PM
I think the 76ers won the trade, jus sayin.
JustinVerlander07
11-13-2023, 05:45 PM
Russ getting pulled late in the game and his reaction.
Harden effect is already happening!!!
The Accountant
11-15-2023, 12:32 AM
Clippers figuring it out? close one in denver right now
rustywest
11-15-2023, 03:22 AM
Clippers figuring it out? close one in denver right now
Figuring it out? Yeah, figuring out that the trade made them smaller, older, slower and worse on both ends of the floor.
Tyronn Lue down to an 8 man rotation in November with injury prone stars :mad:
It was their best showing post Harden, and he looks ok individually on O but his arrival has ruined the chemistry on a number of levels.
KhalDrogo
11-15-2023, 06:05 AM
:cry::cry::cry:
msink28
11-15-2023, 09:57 AM
I just don't think the Clippers have had any chemistry since Kawhi got there, not as if there was much chemistry before he got there.
There are these moments when you think you'll see the Kawhi that carved everybody up in the 2010s, like game 1 vs. Phoenix last year or that 2021 Mavs series but then he's hurt and it's gone. Same goes for PG13, you think from time to time you might see that guy for the Pacers or Thunder but then it's gone.
Harden doesn't really move the needle for them but they'll probably find him useful when half their team gets injured in the next month.
ninjacookies
11-20-2023, 10:11 PM
Now 2-0 since strip club patron's taken sole possession of PG duties.
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TawkCards
11-21-2023, 07:35 AM
It seems like the NBA game has left the style James Harden plays in the past. Harden needs that 2004 Mcgrady era :)
ninjacookies
11-22-2023, 11:46 PM
3-0 (though SA may not count as a win this year in many peoples' minds).
Much better synergy now with SCP manning the first team, and WB getting to do whatever-the-hell-he-wants with the bench squad.
Not sure they have much of a shot in the postseason, but their potential ceiling is as high as anyone IF they're firing on all cylinders.
ninjacookies
12-15-2023, 07:03 PM
Strangely enough, I think this experiment may somewhat work.
He's an LA native, and Ballmer has pretty much been without incident when it comes to player relations.
And he's great personal friends with WB.
Yes, the risk always exists with strip club patron, but if it's one place that could possibly somewhat salvage his PR relations - it's LA.
It's not like he's completely washed. He's consistently been a top 3 distributor for the greater part of this last decade and still chips in 20+ a night.
Still a super weird fit. James is designed to be the full time pg (dude averaged nearly 11 dimes with Philly), but yet they still have him splitting duties with WB?
At least have a suitable plan in place if you're acquiring a player.
Either place him or WB in staggered configurations leading different units or don't play them at all. Because both in the backcourt is idiocy.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/18itcxb/the_la_clippers_are_113_since_harden_became_the/
2 crip affiliates both ballin' out in front of their home city in their revised respective roles. You luv (hate) to see it, depending on local RICO regulations.
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ninjacookies
12-18-2023, 09:57 PM
13-3 since strip club patron's move to the starting 5.
You can hear a pin drop in here the last few weeks..
hermanotarjeta
12-18-2023, 10:01 PM
So will Harden crack the top 10 all time scoring when all is said and done?
He may pass up some really big names along the way.
Nomad
12-19-2023, 12:25 AM
Dusting off my James Harden 2nd and 3rd year swatches, stained glass, and golds, including a couple jersey number pieces (what I did during my Covid vacation) and hitting the road to LA.
Hardens I can afford to let go at a loss from whatever peak we reach if Clip nation does good. I'm all in on Nesmith, baby!
fumanchu
12-19-2023, 01:30 AM
gotta admit, i did not see this win streak coming. hopefully they stay healthy!
sotexcollector
12-19-2023, 07:50 AM
gotta admit, i did not see this win streak coming. hopefully they stay healthy!
Staying healthy is the key. It took a while for them to figure it out. Props to have WB come off the bench. :)!
13-3 since strip club patron's move to the starting 5.
You can hear a pin drop in here the last few weeks..
I think people are expecting Kawhi or PG (or both) to go down before the playoffs so it's hard to get excited about this team.
JustinVerlander07
12-19-2023, 10:04 AM
13-3 since strip club patron's move to the starting 5.
You can hear a pin drop in here the last few weeks..
It's coming ninja. No reason to overthink right now.
ninjacookies
12-21-2023, 12:51 AM
It's coming ninja. No reason to overthink right now.
14-3.
Overthinking not even once.
rustywest
01-06-2024, 08:36 AM
Time for me to revisit this thread, reevaluate the Harden trade and ask for forgiveness from the basketball gods!
I was very sad when it went down and downright depressed a couple weeks later. Slowly moved into the acceptance phase and currently, as the dust has settled, pretty chuffed with proceedings.
I hated the trade for selfish reasons, it wasn't because I thought Harden was done or he's a quitter or he 'chokes' in playoffs, (that mainstream media stuff is straight junk.) It was mostly because I knew Russ' role would be greatly diminished. He had been thriving, and had bounced back in a huge way from that foul Laker narrative. I wanted that to continue but knew with Harden that would be tough and it was. BUT seeing the team winning and Russ super happy in his reduced role, I'm all aboard. Knock on wood, the trade was genius.
I'm not surprised with Harden's offensive prowess, scoring and facilitating. But I am VERY surprised with how well he has been playing D, sure he will get blown by even now and then but the effort is clear to see. Rotations, close outs, running back in transition. His worst game was that 12pm start time, coincidence? LoLs I think not. You gotta credit the Clippers coaching staff and team culture for getting this to click. James has bought into facilitating as his main objective whilst being the 3rd! scorer. Russ has sacrificed for his team - 20 minutes a night, in 2 stints, pushing pace and bringing energy to his team and the building. Sometimes more, sometimes less but never pouting because his team embrace him unlike that other situation.
Knock on wood everyday... Currently, the Clippers look incredible, they are overwhelming teams with sheer talent and firepower but they can crank it up on D too. I'm not sure I'd take another guy in the playoff's as a No1 over Kawhi Leonard right now, the guys absolutely incredible. PG has been scorching. James is arguably the best pick n roll guy in the league and is so calm and calculated running the offense. His reads and passes are immaculate. Zu has been great after an incredibly limp first 10 games (they said he had a back injury) and is super solid anchoring the D. Clippers have bodies to throw at Joker. Theis was a great get! Then you got 6th man Norm, the absolute perfect guy alongside the Clippers big 3. Doesn't need the ball in his hands, just drills open looks and finishes plays. The Bow legged master, I've grown to love Norm!
Ty Lue is an incredible coach by the way... I don't know what was going on last year behind the scenes with the Morris, RoCo stuff but he is on point this year. Clippers are taking every game seriously and load management this time round is called 4th quarter blow outs.
I still maintain the Clippers would've been good without the big trade but I'll admit, not this good...
6celtics33
01-06-2024, 08:47 AM
I’m rooting for the clippers. I love Kawhi. But I still fear disaster looms.
ninjacookies
01-07-2024, 12:44 AM
It's coming ninja. No reason to overthink right now.
Your overthought levels are critical, brethren.
ninjacookies
02-03-2024, 01:59 AM
24-5.
Nomad
02-03-2024, 01:58 PM
Harden the new CP3? What kind of contract is he locked in with Clippers.
GOATcards
02-03-2024, 02:31 PM
24-5.
73-9.
ninjacookies
02-03-2024, 08:04 PM
73-9.
Happy to see you not overthinking the obvious Le2024 Fakers in 3 prophecy.
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GOATcards
02-04-2024, 03:03 AM
Happy to see you not overthinking the obvious Le2024 Fakers in 3 prophecy.
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always nice to see Mr. Russell
as for 73-9, and 16-0 in the NFL, the pattern is losing a close one in the terminal championship game
72-10 and 15-1 Da Bears had no troubles closing however
the lesson is crystal clear
have Chicago as your franchise city
Nomad
02-04-2024, 03:09 AM
I feel like the thread has devolved into morse code. How is Harden doing?
ninjacookies
02-04-2024, 08:38 PM
25-5.
Amazing how Strip Club Patron's completely transformed the complexion of the offense with his distributing and floor spacing.
All whilst averaging a decade-low 11 shot attempts per game.
Not sure how this full length feature ends, but I'm all the way here for it.
pingbling23
02-04-2024, 09:27 PM
We got kawhi, pg, harden, wb, and we’re wondering how they are winning lol.
Nomad
02-04-2024, 10:44 PM
So was Durant or Irving the Brooklyn jinx, now that we have definitely cleared Harden?
GOATcards
02-05-2024, 12:38 AM
We got kawhi, pg, harden, wb, and we’re wondering how they are winning lol.
Health
Come playoff time, assuming health persists, Playoff Kawhi will cancel out Playoff Harden, so it'll all depend on Paul and some Westy
ninjacookies
02-05-2024, 12:41 AM
They were terrible before the trade.
Harden transformed them. Don't overthink it.
rustywest
02-05-2024, 01:00 AM
They were terrible before the trade.
Harden transformed them. Don't overthink it.
That's a bold faced lie! Stop
ninjacookies
02-05-2024, 01:09 AM
That's a bold faced lie! Stop
I should have been more specific: before strip club and Mann moved to full-time starters.
rustywest
03-26-2024, 12:45 AM
The Clippers are floundering at the wrong end of the season. James Harden has gradually morphed into a slug...
The team looks old and slow, and they can't stop anybody. The transition defense deplorable.
I'm doing the complete 360. Surprise, surprise... They should've never made that trade.
The 27-5 run was league best but sadly it looks like Kawhi was right. They were winning on talent alone... And Ty Lue has been running Harden into the ground. I have been very unhappy with Westbrook's limited minutes all season long. 75% of his nights less than 20 and 90% of Harden nights 35+. Not what I'd envisaged when the trade went down and looks like this ploy from Lue is catching up with Harden.
The problem with Harden setting the tone for your team is how sluggish he is getting into actions. Everything is slow, he's lost the first step so he don't blow by nobody and seems reluctant to catch and shoot 3's or take middies. Is comfortable dribbling into step-backs or firing out that one pass grenade at the end of the clock but this stinks for team basketball. His effort on D has waned significantly (expected) but its his lethargy and nonchalance that seems to have rubbed off onto the team. That's their identity right now...
Nomad
03-26-2024, 12:53 AM
The Pacers literally looked like they were going up against a college team, after the toughness of the Lakers the previous night at Cryoto.
GOATcards
03-26-2024, 12:55 AM
The Clippers are floundering at the wrong end of the season. James Harden has gradually morphed into a slug...
The problem with Harden setting the tone for your team is how sluggish he is getting into actions. Everything is slow, he's lost the first step so he don't blow by nobody and seems reluctant to catch and shoot 3's or take middies. Is comfortable dribbling into step-backs or firing out that one pass grenade at the end of the clock but this stinks for team basketball. His effort on D has waned significantly (expected) but its his lethargy and nonchalance that seems to have rubbed off onto the team. That's their identity right now...
how does his usual defensive effort compare to his block attempt on Kawhi
rustywest
04-10-2024, 09:29 AM
The last 18 minutes of that Cavs game and the 1st half vs the Suns is exactly what this teams identity should've been...
I will say, I don't dislike Harden as a human and I want him and the team to succeed but the style the team plays with Russ is 1000 times more enjoyable to me. You see it on both ends of the floor... I'm not saying its better (although it probably is right now considering Lue ran Harden into the ground), it just would've made the regular season enjoyable.
ninjacookies
04-21-2024, 06:51 PM
He looks washed.
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GOATcards
04-21-2024, 10:52 PM
He looks washed.
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28/2/8 on 17 FGA
must not be game 7 yet
ninjacookies
04-28-2024, 07:13 PM
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ninjacookies
05-01-2024, 07:53 PM
SCP's splits this series:
26/7/4 2to's on 54/50/91%
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o30.5 p+a for free USDT.
rustywest
05-03-2024, 11:22 PM
SCP's splits this series:
26/7/4 2to's on 54/50/91%
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I guess its a shame the NBA is a team sport and not a one on one contest.
Its played on the court not on a sheet of paper
ninjacookies
05-03-2024, 11:32 PM
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I guess its a shame the NBA is a team sport and not a one on one contest.
Its played on the court not on a sheet of paper
Fell off Mt. Rushmore right after my post, obviously. Like clockwork.
Your boy didn't do too hot this series, either.
But that's neither here nor there.
Ship everyone and keep Ivanka. 2037 world champs.
rustywest
05-03-2024, 11:45 PM
Fell off Mt. Rushmore right after my post, obviously. Like clockwork.
Your boy didn't do too hot this series, either.
But that's neither here nor there.
Ship everyone and keep Ivanka. 2037 world champs.
Russ was god awful.
BUT if we are being honest Lue and the team (much like the Lakers but incredibly to a greater extent), put him in a position to fail. Its always been about rhythm and confidence with Russ. Don't be surprised if he plays like crap when you make him a guy with spotty minutes who just stands in the corner (but can't shoot)...
rustywest
05-03-2024, 11:58 PM
Thank god its over. That James Harden trade killed my joy for the game of basketball, and I've got NOTHING against James Harden the human being. But that was the most joyless season I've ever endured.
Now lets see the Clippers give Harden a max and extend Tyronne Lue!
I pray to god Russ finds a new home where he is allowed to be a point guard instead of a shooting guard that stands in the corner with less than 2 minutes a game of ball handling duties.
F*%k off LA Clippers
ninjacookies
05-04-2024, 01:03 AM
Russ was god awful.
BUT if we are being honest Lue and the team (much like the Lakers but incredibly to a greater extent), put him in a position to fail. Its always been about rhythm and confidence with Russ. Don't be surprised if he plays like crap when you make him a guy with spotty minutes who just stands in the corner (but can't shoot)...
I'm not sure what else you'd want for a Russ situation. He's not going to be an NBA starter again. Ever. Perhaps maybe on a bottom feeder like Detroit with no postseason prospects, but not on a playoff contender. His shooting will always be a deterrent for his minutes prospects. Otherwise, nobody could ever question his determination, motor or grit.
I honestly hope he goes back to the Fakers. I think that was a much better fit than LAC, and he seemed to gel with the second quad.
rustywest
05-05-2024, 06:20 AM
Bravo to Dime Dropper! This guy gets it. Nails the greedy bungling Clipper organization to an absolute tee
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rustywest
05-05-2024, 10:56 AM
I'm not sure what else you'd want for a Russ situation. He's not going to be an NBA starter again. Ever. Perhaps maybe on a bottom feeder like Detroit with no postseason prospects, but not on a playoff contender. His shooting will always be a deterrent for his minutes prospects. Otherwise, nobody could ever question his determination, motor or grit.
I honestly hope he goes back to the Fakers. I think that was a much better fit than LAC, and he seemed to gel with the second quad.
Ninja, I'm sorry but you've outed yourself here to not having your finger on the pulse about Russ and his Clippers tenure. That's fine, you've probably not watched every single game of his career like I have. I'm not looking for a fight here...but the Clippers role sans Harden was anything but a good situation for Russ.
There is a 0% chance he goes back to the Lakers. 0.00000 % if LeBron is a Laker.
If you get a spare hour watch the podcast I posted. He is young, but he lives and breathes basketball and he nails absolutely everything about Russ and the Clippers...
I'm glad we can have a reasonable discussion about Russ though. 95% of people on this forum do not respect anything I say about Russ or anything positive about Westbrook. I have always been aware of his flaws, I'm not some deluded stan the way 5 or 6 guys on this forum make me out to be.
I don't care if he is on a contender, or even if he starts. I just want him on a team that lets him be a f*#ing point guard and gives him consistent minutes. He had the PERFECT ROLE on the Clippers before Harden showed up and if you don't believe me I already posted career best shooting splits in his role pre-Harden. Starting alongside 2 stars was the perfect role at this stage in his career and he was thriving. By the season end, he had almost zero ball handling duties because he shared 90% of his minutes with Harden on the floor. That's the worst situation for Russ because he isn't an off-ball shooter. Yes, Russ is flawed. But so is James, in different ways.
Its cool you like Harden but I don't enjoy watching his style of play.
Alot of people saying Russ can't start, he doesn't belong in the NBA, he is cooked blah blah blah. He got one start post Harden (w/o Harden) and he posted 16/15/15 and the Clippers absolutely obliterated the Suns on the road in a must win game for the Suns with no Kawhi. You telling me this guy can't start? He can start, but you just use discretion on a nightly basis whether he closes or not.
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Or if you've got league pass, watch the entire 1st quarter of that game and tell me with a straight face he can't start.
gomiamigo
05-05-2024, 07:12 PM
25-5.
Amazing how Strip Club Patron's completely transformed the complexion of the offense with his distributing and floor spacing.
All whilst averaging a decade-low 11 shot attempts per game.
Not sure how this full length feature ends, but I'm all the way here for it.
We always knew how the LA Strip Club Odyssey would end. 7-28 FG, 1-13 from 3 in the final 2 losses.
ninjacookies
05-06-2024, 01:31 AM
Ninja, I'm sorry but you've outed yourself here to not having your finger on the pulse about Russ and his Clippers tenure. That's fine, you've probably not watched every single game of his career like I have. I'm not looking for a fight here...but the Clippers role sans Harden was anything but a good situation for Russ.
There is a 0% chance he goes back to the Lakers. 0.00000 % if LeBron is a Laker.
If you get a spare hour watch the podcast I posted. He is young, but he lives and breathes basketball and he nails absolutely everything about Russ and the Clippers...
I'm glad we can have a reasonable discussion about Russ though. 95% of people on this forum do not respect anything I say about Russ or anything positive about Westbrook. I have always been aware of his flaws, I'm not some deluded stan the way 5 or 6 guys on this forum make me out to be.
I don't care if he is on a contender, or even if he starts. I just want him on a team that lets him be a f*#ing point guard and gives him consistent minutes. He had the PERFECT ROLE on the Clippers before Harden showed up and if you don't believe me I already posted career best shooting splits in his role pre-Harden. Starting alongside 2 stars was the perfect role at this stage in his career and he was thriving. By the season end, he had almost zero ball handling duties because he shared 90% of his minutes with Harden on the floor. That's the worst situation for Russ because he isn't an off-ball shooter. Yes, Russ is flawed. But so is James, in different ways.
Its cool you like Harden but I don't enjoy watching his style of play.
Alot of people saying Russ can't start, he doesn't belong in the NBA, he is cooked blah blah blah. He got one start post Harden (w/o Harden) and he posted 16/15/15 and the Clippers absolutely obliterated the Suns on the road in a must win game for the Suns with no Kawhi. You telling me this guy can't start? He can start, but you just use discretion on a nightly basis whether he closes or not.
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Or if you've got league pass, watch the entire 1st quarter of that game and tell me with a straight face he can't start.
I've been a Russ proponent since his pre-mvp days with OKC. My history's documented and stamped.
I'm not particularly fond of Strip Club Patron, actually. But rather gravitate towards hated figures within in the BO ecosystem solely for the contrarian jeers. It's my life fuel.
Russ ain't done yet. Far from. But I truly don't think he's got starter in him (spot starting is a different story) at this stage in his career. At least not when viewed through the scope of NBA front offices. I don't call the shots.
Both 1st ballots at the end of the day. And that's all that matters.
We always knew how the LA Strip Club Odyssey would end. 7-28 FG, 1-13 from 3 in the final 2 losses.
Cancun don't discriminate based on the color, content, or creed of the Nike swingman this time o' year.
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Drinks is on the house.
fumanchu
10-24-2024, 03:39 PM
clippers need help, can't just rely on harden like lastnight. if this happens he'll be worn out/injured by the time playoffs come.
ninjacookies
10-24-2024, 08:03 PM
Near 3d 29 piece fresh off VIP bottle service at the Rhino.
Light work.
ninjacookies
10-26-2024, 06:58 PM
Single handedly carrying the squad while Boardman recoups from permanent knee lupus.
Something like 8,000 assists tonight.
Turns out he's less cooked than McD's beef patties.
fumanchu
10-28-2024, 11:24 AM
yeah! i've been pleasantly surprised with these games, specially since they're against good teams
The Accountant
10-28-2024, 12:29 PM
A lot more fun to watch him play as the primary player than a secondary or third piece
ninjacookies
04-13-2025, 09:04 PM
The Clippers are floundering at the wrong end of the season. James Harden has gradually morphed into a slug...
The team looks old and slow, and they can't stop anybody. The transition defense deplorable.
I'm doing the complete 360. Surprise, surprise... They should've never made that trade.
The 27-5 run was league best but sadly it looks like Kawhi was right. They were winning on talent alone... And Ty Lue has been running Harden into the ground. I have been very unhappy with Westbrook's limited minutes all season long. 75% of his nights less than 20 and 90% of Harden nights 35+. Not what I'd envisaged when the trade went down and looks like this ploy from Lue is catching up with Harden.
The problem with Harden setting the tone for your team is how sluggish he is getting into actions. Everything is slow, he's lost the first step so he don't blow by nobody and seems reluctant to catch and shoot 3's or take middies. Is comfortable dribbling into step-backs or firing out that one pass grenade at the end of the clock but this stinks for team basketball. His effort on D has waned significantly (expected) but its his lethargy and nonchalance that seems to have rubbed off onto the team. That's their identity right now...
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The gift that keeps on gifting.
Meanwhile, Worstbrook out here adding airball layup packages to the 2k arsenal.
I don't know how far this Clips squad can go, but if they can figure out their road woes, they could be dangerous.
blackvodka
04-13-2025, 09:41 PM
Harden been playing well lately. I think they emerged as the one team that no one wants to play right now.
6celtics33
04-30-2025, 04:32 AM
Can always count on harden to show up in a big pivotal game lol. I’m sure there’s a happy stripper somewhere at least.
6celtics33
04-30-2025, 04:50 AM
It’s hard to imagine a stat monster getting 11 on 3-9 when there’s like 250 points scored in a game. 10 people scored more than James. And his counterpart lit the gym on fire for 40+ so it’s not like he was just focusing on D.
blackvodka
04-30-2025, 07:20 AM
Hardens outing last night was rough. It was a game he needed to step up and he didn't. Zubac was solid(mostly) but honestly the Clippers looked lost. And that's with Joker being so-so. I'm surprised after how well they looked after game 3.
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volblorx8634
04-30-2025, 11:37 AM
It’s hard to imagine a stat monster getting 11 on 3-9 when there’s like 250 points scored in a game. 10 people scored more than James. And his counterpart lit the gym on fire for 40+ so it’s not like he was just focusing on D.
I only watched the second half, but Harden was guarding Jokic most of the time he was on the floor, and he actually did a great job. He was bodying him up hard and making things tough on him. Not necessarily excusing his offensive performance, but I think he did a great, high effort job defensively.
rustywest
05-04-2025, 06:03 AM
The Clippers are floundering at the wrong end of the season. James Harden has gradually morphed into a slug...
The team looks old and slow, and they can't stop anybody. The transition defense deplorable.
I'm doing the complete 360. Surprise, surprise... They should've never made that trade.
The 27-5 run was league best but sadly it looks like Kawhi was right. They were winning on talent alone... And Ty Lue has been running Harden into the ground. I have been very unhappy with Westbrook's limited minutes all season long. 75% of his nights less than 20 and 90% of Harden nights 35+. Not what I'd envisaged when the trade went down and looks like this ploy from Lue is catching up with Harden.
The problem with Harden setting the tone for your team is how sluggish he is getting into actions. Everything is slow, he's lost the first step so he don't blow by nobody and seems reluctant to catch and shoot 3's or take middies. Is comfortable dribbling into step-backs or firing out that one pass grenade at the end of the clock but this stinks for team basketball. His effort on D has waned significantly (expected) but its his lethargy and nonchalance that seems to have rubbed off onto the team. That's their identity right now...
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The gift that keeps on gifting.
Meanwhile, Worstbrook out here adding airball layup packages to the 2k arsenal.
I don't know how far this Clips squad can go, but if they can figure out their road woes, they could be dangerous.
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ninjacookies
05-18-2025, 10:49 PM
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Not to worry. Strip club patron kept a front row seat warm for Mr. 2-for-7 down at the Rhino.
It'll be like an old school OKC reunion. Except with more singles, tears, and Icy Hot.
ninjacookies
01-13-2026, 12:06 AM
Congrats @ SCP for passing Lord Shaq for number 9 on the all-time scorer list. Next up: Mr. Promiscuous.
And most importantly, the sole survivor of the Kardashian matrix.
boxbuster7
01-13-2026, 03:23 PM
I swear the clippere exist in a vacuum - everything they do is just ignored by the media
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