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paulcarlcards
11-12-2023, 09:12 PM
It’s great as a hobby or a fun side gig, but if you wanna slang singles for $2 shipped (or less) on eBay as your primary source of income, I have bad news for you:

It won’t work by itself.

You can start there, but you can’t finish there.

If you make $0.50 profit per sale and you wanna profit (pre-tax) $60,000/year then you need to sell 329 cards per day, every day.

Multi card orders help, but they are too rare. Even with a buy one get one free coupon most of my orders were still just one card. I’ve talked with several other sellers who had the same experience. As far as I can tell, the typical bulk commons sellers averages about 70% of their orders being for just one card.

Chasing multi card orders when selling <$2 singles is like ripping wax to try to hit a card that will pay for your box: it happens, but not often enough to make it worthwhile.

I see two paths from this baseline: sell higher end cards or sell lots.

Higher end cards require more capital and have higher downside risk from getting bad grades, player issues, or loss of hype.

It’s possible as many here and elsewhere have demonstrated, but too risky and capital intensive for my personal preferences (especially since this is currently just a side hustle that I’ve been experimenting with).

Selling lots is the way I went. Much higher STR than singles (my STR is 30-40% since the switch for last month) and much higher profit per hour. No downside financial risk since bulk commons are dirt cheap and easy to get.

A bulk common box can net me $15-25 per sale. My player/team/set lots of 100 typically net $25+ and are they faster to list than singles. I list them by scanning into Kronocard and running their AI to generate a list of cards included for my description. I don’t actually check the AI’s work like I’d have to with singles. Instead, I put a disclaimer in the description saying that it’s AI generated and likely has some inaccuracies, trust the scans not the list. This helps with SEO on eBay. I use Kronocard’s export add-on and a Python script to automate creating the lot listings so customers can see scans of each of the 100 cards they’d receive.

For sorting, collections will often already be sorted by team/player (and if not then you just cherry-pick the better cards and bulk out the rest). Sorting efficiently takes way more space than I expected. I’ve got an entire room dedicated just to sorting now so each card only gets touched once.

If your singles are all priced at $5, you only need to sell 33 per day at a $3 profit (before COGs) to hit the 60k. I’ve been doing a mix of sending my $5+ singles to COMC, listing them on eBay, or listing them on my website.

For my player/team lots of 100, I shoot for at least $30 shipped as a minimum. 100 cards is a good place to be for this target because $0.30 per card is a great deal on eBay, even compared to Burbanks selection of 280,000+ singles listed BIN for $0.99 shipped. This is a huge threat to bulk volume sellers and, if that’s you, you better hope that the increase in their employees’ time spent shipping single card orders makes them change it. I think it’s a marketing play (so they can build up their eBay marketing lists, mail adverts in their orders, and further improve their SEO on eBay), but time will tell.

Anyways, at $30 shipped, that’s a $17 profit per lot (minus whatever your COGS is, but it should be 0 most of the time since bulk is so cheap and you break even super fast).

Sell just 10 per day and you’re at that 60k. I averaged 2 per day with just 100-150 active listings for that first month. I didn’t even send any coupon deals either so the sell thru rate could have been even higher.

I shipped 63 lots last month and made the same profit that I did from selling 4,000+ singles in the last month that I had 100,000 active $2 singles.

And it took virtually no time to list/pick/pack/ship compared to singles (especially since I didn’t have to spend any time checking AI accuracy). If you have a huge inventory to sustain lots, you could increase your profit per hour exponentially just by selling lots instead.

With certain players or better cards in the lots, you can sell them at $50+ too. That price point is about $32 profit per sale. Sell 11 of those per day and that’s $120,000 profit per year.

I’m still early in this experiment, but the results so far are promising. Next weekend I’m picking up another truckload of cards and will be shifting a lot of my “eBay time” away from antique mall inventory and back to listing on eBay so I can start scaling this up more. Will report back with my findings and see if I can maintain my STR as I move up to 500 active listings.

thajknott
11-12-2023, 09:54 PM
All your lots are pretty much bulk base? Regardless if it’s team or player lots?


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paulcarlcards
11-13-2023, 06:17 AM
All your lots are pretty much bulk base? Regardless if it’s team or player lots?


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Yeah my lots are mostly base and inserts but I usually have some color or numbered cards or oddball cards in them too. Just depends on what comes in and how it’s sorted. The key is not to waste time sorting cards and this means only touching each card once.

MavsRChamps
11-14-2023, 11:38 AM
This was very informative. I’ve been selling at card shows & if a card doesn’t qualify for my 50 cent - 1 dollar box I literally give them away for free in gram bags. Maybe I’m leaving money on the table :doh: … maybe I missed it but how you sell these - run auctions or buy it now / best offer? I assume title is something like “(team name) huge 100 card lot - Inserts, Rookies, Parallels incl (star player name)” ?

f2tornado
11-14-2023, 01:40 PM
I have good luck selling cheaper cards on eBay provided I go on lower end of comps and offer Standard Envelope. I simply do not have the time to list a ton of cheap stuff there and therefore dump 95+% to COMC. The downside with COMC is the upfront listing fee. The upside is it is one-time. I can list the first 250 on eBay without a store for nothing. The downside with eBay is if I have more than 250 listings then there is the 35 cent fee that becomes due every month.

But, yes, you would need to move a ton of cheap stuff no matter the site to gross four figures a month.

checkoutmydeals
11-15-2023, 12:44 PM
What is the most efficient way you've found of packing / shipping 100 card lots, so that they arrive safely, but also so that the postage cost is not prohibitive?

rwperu34
11-15-2023, 05:45 PM
What is the most efficient way you've found of packing / shipping 100 card lots, so that they arrive safely, but also so that the postage cost is not prohibitive?

Penny sleeves (optional), team set bags, sandwiched by cardboard or toploaders, in a bubble mailer. I get a lot of bulkish lots like this in the 100 count BCW storage box as well.

The main consideration is to not go over a pound. At that point you're better off filling up (2) 300 count boxes and putting it in a Priority bubble mailer.

paulcarlcards
11-16-2023, 10:11 PM
This was very informative. I’ve been selling at card shows & if a card doesn’t qualify for my 50 cent - 1 dollar box I literally give them away for free in gram bags. Maybe I’m leaving money on the table :doh: … maybe I missed it but how you sell these - run auctions or buy it now / best offer? I assume title is something like “(team name) huge 100 card lot - Inserts, Rookies, Parallels incl (star player name)” ?

Buy it now with best offer. Some lots I’ll auction if it’s vintage. That’s pretty much how I name the listings but I don’t put in “huge.”

paulcarlcards
11-16-2023, 10:13 PM
What is the most efficient way you've found of packing / shipping 100 card lots, so that they arrive safely, but also so that the postage cost is not prohibitive?

I ship them in the eBay 4x4x4 boxes in team bags with a 6” wide sheet of bubble wrap from American Bubble Boy. I use the eBay tissue paper for voidfill. I don’t ship cards in bubble mailers.