View Full Version : 97-98 Upper Deck Game Dated FOILS (20/30) Found them in grandpa's storage
Kidpure6
11-20-2023, 05:17 AM
Found these in my grandpa's collection, all are the full foil versions, this is 20/30 of the set 👍👍
Seems that they don't show up very often due to rarity, super neat. Showing off and am curious if anyone collects these, I wonder how many complete sets are out there.
duron
11-20-2023, 08:50 AM
Big shout to Gramps because that’s even more impressive considering the limited accessibility to rare singles at the time he must’ve put these together.
Also prepare for your inbox to be flooded.
Sorry Gramps.
marinocollector
11-20-2023, 08:58 AM
Its very cool. My guess is he bought one of the home shopping network sets.
Asian62150
11-20-2023, 09:43 AM
Weren't these like 1:10,000 packs?
It's also very confusing when searching for these bc PSA doesn't distinguish them from the non-foil game dated moment base cards.
Great find!
bkcardcollector
11-20-2023, 10:04 AM
anfernee over kemp is dope
Stats
11-20-2023, 10:14 AM
This was probably one of the most confusing cards in the 90s if you didn't know what you were looking for. Props to grandpa!
marinocollector
11-20-2023, 10:21 AM
Weren't these like 1:10,000 packs?
It's also very confusing when searching for these bc PSA doesn't distinguish them from the non-foil game dated moment base cards.
Great find!
1:1500 packs... 30 in the set.
But Home Shopping Network sold complete sets of the basketball. In football, these are ghosts
htn315
11-20-2023, 10:25 AM
Weren't these like 1:10,000 packs?
It's also very confusing when searching for these bc PSA doesn't distinguish them from the non-foil game dated moment base cards.
Great find!
They were 1:1,500 packs
Asian62150
11-20-2023, 12:46 PM
1:1500 packs... 30 in the set.
But Home Shopping Network sold complete sets of the basketball. In football, these are ghosts
Thanks for the clarification. I was just a little off =)
How much were the complete sets? The MJ is quite expensive these days...
duron
11-20-2023, 01:41 PM
1:1500 packs... 30 in the set.
But Home Shopping Network sold complete sets of the basketball. In football, these are ghosts
Interesting. That’s a prime piece of info usually omitted when these get shown off. The oft-cited player specific pack odds should come with a giant asterisk.
Otherwise, getting this far along into the set around the time of release with actual pack pulled copies would’ve been some miracle work.
sonic311
11-20-2023, 01:48 PM
Congrats. I have been chasing this set for almost 10 years. I've been buying these individually over those 10 years so most likely all pack pulled.
I'm currently at 28 of 30 and only need Anfernee Hardaway and Jordan to complete the set. Let me know if you are interested in selling the Anfernee. It would really help me out in my pursuit of completing this crazy set.
Nomad
11-20-2023, 04:07 PM
not that he's selling, but what's an estimated value for the 20 cards as a lot?
nerdherd020
11-20-2023, 04:17 PM
Nice find. I pulled a Drexler way back when and still have it today.
MavsRChamps
11-20-2023, 04:33 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but how do we know these are the actual "Game Dated" parallels and not the base cards that just say "game dated"? Several in the pic look like just base cards to me.
Chris P
11-20-2023, 04:46 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but how do we know these are the actual "Game Dated" parallels and not the base cards that just say "game dated"? Several in the pic look like just base cards to me.
The parallels have a foil finish
byronscott4ever
11-20-2023, 05:20 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but how do we know these are the actual "Game Dated" parallels and not the base cards that just say "game dated"? Several in the pic look like just base cards to me.
I feel like they are Black Diamond-esque in the foiled surface…no one who has seen the parallel would confuse it with a base card
duron
11-20-2023, 05:21 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but how do we know these are the actual "Game Dated" parallels and not the base cards that just say "game dated"? Several in the pic look like just base cards to me.
Etched foil.
The more pressing question is how do we know if any given copy is pack pulled vs Home Shopping Network imposter.
But obviously we most likely can’t know. There’s prob no differences.
Wonder how many sets they were given.
Asian62150
11-20-2023, 06:07 PM
Love the etched foil look.
The 1994 SP Behind the Glass set has it and so do 30 of the 1998 MJ Tribute/Reflections Set and you can get them for a fraction of Game Dated Moments.
DynaEtch
11-20-2023, 07:03 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but how do we know these are the actual "Game Dated" parallels and not the base cards that just say "game dated"? Several in the pic look like just base cards to me.
The parallels have a foil finish
Perhaps what is meant, can you tell for certain the ones shown here in the pics are the etched foil? The image is kinda small and a wider shot of all of them.
I think Im seeing foil, but tbh it's kinda hard to tell foil from pics. Could a close up view of some be posted (either of the above, or if someone else has one), and even better in comparison to a regular game dated? A brief search online, and this was, since it came out, a confusing insert. I find it odd grading companies would even be mislabeling them. Where does the 1:1500 come from, does someone have a pic of the back of a pack and odds?
pingbling23
11-20-2023, 07:11 PM
We’re the home shopping sets regular size or oversized?
duron
11-20-2023, 07:23 PM
Perhaps what is meant, can you tell for certain the ones shown here in the pics are the etched foil? The image is kinda small and a wider shot of all of them.
I think Im seeing foil, but tbh it's kinda hard to tell foil from pics. Could a close up view of some be posted (either of the above, or if someone else has one), and even better in comparison to a regular game dated? A brief search online, and this was, since it came out, a confusing insert. I find it odd grading companies would even be mislabeling them. Where does the 1:1500 come from, does someone have a pic of the back of a pack and odds?
Look at the Jones, Drexler, Walker and Olajuwon. They’re the most obvious.
I think Im seeing foil, but tbh it's kinda hard to tell foil from pics. Could a close up view of some be posted (either of the above, or if someone else has one), and even better in comparison to a regular game dated? A brief search online, and this was, since it came out, a confusing insert. I find it odd grading companies would even be mislabeling them. Where does the 1:1500 come from, does someone have a pic of the back of a pack and odds?
Odds
https://www.beckett.com/basketball/1997-98/upper-deck-game-dated-memorable-moments/
Some photos here:
https://www.beckett.com/search/?set_id=3134231&result_type=59
https://www.beckett.com/basketball/1997-98/upper-deck-game-dated-memorable-moments/23-bob-sura-3134243
DynaEtch
11-20-2023, 08:06 PM
Thanks, yea I can see the foil in those pics. I think if I held it in hand it would be much more obvious. I would ask in turn where Beckett is getting the info on odds since Im naturally a skeptic, but I finally found a pic of the back of a pack of 1997-98 UD S1. Hard to find a listing for one of these packs
https://ebay.com/itm/385599183651
Does say 1:1,500 for game dated memorable moments
Kidpure6
11-20-2023, 08:34 PM
I'm learning a lot from all the comments, thanks for that!
It's tough to show off all the foils is one photo, here's a couple of them to show it off in more detail
https://imgur.com/gallery/kXnPJrA
And not sure if it helps, but originally when I found them they were all in individually priced toploaders.
Reignmanprice
11-21-2023, 07:48 AM
I'm learning a lot from all the comments, thanks for that!
It's tough to show off all the foils is one photo, here's a couple of them to show it off in more detail ��
https://imgur.com/gallery/kXnPJrA
And not sure if it helps, but originally when I found them they were all in individually priced toploaders.
The Penny in the Pic is the true Game Dated Foil. If all look this way, than Congrats!
johnscards
11-21-2023, 09:18 AM
I'm learning a lot from all the comments, thanks for that!
It's tough to show off all the foils is one photo, here's a couple of them to show it off in more detail ��
https://imgur.com/gallery/kXnPJrA
And not sure if it helps, but originally when I found them they were all in individually priced toploaders.
$35 price tag on the GD foils?! :eek:
That's GD outrageous lmao (should be 10x'd at least). I pursued these foil versions as a ten year old buying the retails packs on the shelves of my local Walmart. I probably bought over a hundred packs during my childhood. Never pulled one, but as an adult, I'd love to pick up an MJ. They are just grossly overprized everytime I see one pop up on the Bay. Hopefully you sell the Penny to the other Blowout member above, he deserves to get it for putting in the work these last 10 years!
Edit: This member should get the Penny:
Congrats. I have been chasing this set for almost 10 years. I've been buying these individually over those 10 years so most likely all pack pulled.
I'm currently at 28 of 30 and only need Anfernee Hardaway and Jordan to complete the set. Let me know if you are interested in selling the Anfernee. It would really help me out in my pursuit of completing this crazy set.
DynaEtch
11-21-2023, 09:51 AM
$35 price tag on the GD foils?! :eek:
That's GD outrageous lmao (should be 10x'd at least). I pursued these foil versions as a ten year old buying the retails packs on the shelves of my local Walmart. I probably bought over a hundred packs during my childhood. Never pulled one, but as an adult, I'd love to pick up an MJ. They are just grossly overprized everytime I see one pop up on the Bay. Hopefully you sell the Penny to the other Blowout member above, he deserves to get it for putting in the work these last 10 years!
Edit: This member should get the Penny:
Wonder what the MJ from this set would go for. Reading estimates online, some people are saying maybe a print run of 100-150, but I have no idea how they could figure that out. Plus you factor in the supposed home shopping network ones out there, if they are the same. The lacking serial number on a 90s insert has to be a hit against it I imagine.
Still neat and rare cards though. Looking at sold listings on eBay and some mid-tier players are going for maybe like 150-300.
Chris P
11-21-2023, 11:43 AM
Wonder what the MJ from this set would go for. Reading estimates online, some people are saying maybe a print run of 100-150, but I have no idea how they could figure that out. Plus you factor in the supposed home shopping network ones out there, if they are the same. The lacking serial number on a 90s insert has to be a hit against it I imagine.
Still neat and rare cards though. Looking at sold listings on eBay and some mid-tier players are going for maybe like 150-300.
An MJ sold last night. Didn't see the end price but I believe MC Sportscards had it
An MJ sold last night. Didn't see the end price but I believe MC Sportscards had it
$1450 for a BGS 8.5. A Raw would probably do about $1000.
The Penny price range is from $300-600.
sonic311
11-21-2023, 05:35 PM
$35 price tag on the GD foils?! :eek:
That's GD outrageous lmao (should be 10x'd at least). I pursued these foil versions as a ten year old buying the retails packs on the shelves of my local Walmart. I probably bought over a hundred packs during my childhood. Never pulled one, but as an adult, I'd love to pick up an MJ. They are just grossly overprized everytime I see one pop up on the Bay. Hopefully you sell the Penny to the other Blowout member above, he deserves to get it for putting in the work these last 10 years!
Edit: This member should get the Penny:
Appreciate you saying that. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
What's crazy is this has taken me longer than baseball set 1995 Score Gold Rush Redeemed/Stamped cards. That has 330 cards including the checklists and anyone that knows about those cards knows that its an almost impossible set to complete.
That one took me only 8 years.
swerve
11-21-2023, 05:42 PM
Had an MJ back in the 90's. Believe I sold it for $500 by money order on Ebay back in the day.
Asian62150
11-21-2023, 10:06 PM
Had an MJ back in the 90's. Believe I sold it for $500 by money order on Ebay back in the day.
Ah, paying by money order back in the early ebay days. I think I bought a good amount of 1998-99 SP Authentic Sign of the Times that way. Good times!
swerve
11-22-2023, 10:57 AM
Ah, paying by money order back in the early ebay days. I think I bought a good amount of 1998-99 SP Authentic Sign of the Times that way. Good times!
Imagine doing that now. How times, and people, have changed.
DynaEtch
11-22-2023, 11:05 AM
Imagine doing that now. How times, and people, have changed.
Was thinking the same thing. That really brings me back to the ol wild west days of ebay.
Been using ebay since like 1998, and surprisingly was only burned twice as a buyer during the wild west days. Once a set for like $200 and another lot that was like $30. Those kind of things you just dont forget. Im surprised it was only twice during all those years though...the feedback system helped big time, but still.
Chris P
11-22-2023, 11:26 AM
Was thinking the same thing. That really brings me back to the ol wild west days of ebay.
Been using ebay since like 1998, and surprisingly was only burned twice as a buyer during the wild west days. Once a set for like $200 and another lot that was like $30. Those kind of things you just dont forget. Im surprised it was only twice during all those years though...the feedback system helped big time, but still.
Yep I started in early 2000. I go back and am amazed I didn't get burned more. The two I specifically remember was for a 2002-03 SP Game Used Box and a SPX Amare Stoudemire Auto/Jersey (for some reason, on the Amare, I still remember the name of the seller all these years later..Ken Paul, lol)
Asian62150
11-22-2023, 01:38 PM
Nat just posted a pic of a PSA 9 MJ on his IG.
Kidpure6
11-24-2023, 09:49 PM
$35 price tag on the GD foils?! :eek:
That's GD outrageous lmao (should be 10x'd at least). I pursued these foil versions as a ten year old buying the retails packs on the shelves of my local Walmart. I probably bought over a hundred packs during my childhood. Never pulled one, but as an adult, I'd love to pick up an MJ. They are just grossly overprized everytime I see one pop up on the Bay. Hopefully you sell the Penny to the other Blowout member above, he deserves to get it for putting in the work these last 10 years!
Edit: This member should get the Penny:
Aha, big time deceiving tag. I'm assuming the price comes from gramps getting them shortly after release, but even then not sure where he found them. Probably from all the auctions he liked.
I think it probably is the best move to split up the 20/30, and help people complete their sets, you're right. I've started to chat with him :)!
johnscards
11-27-2023, 07:16 PM
Aha, big time deceiving tag. I'm assuming the price comes from gramps getting them shortly after release, but even then not sure where he found them. Probably from all the auctions he liked.
I think it probably is the best move to split up the 20/30, and help people complete their sets, you're right. I've started to chat with him :)!
:)! Awesome decision, I applaud you. I would do the same if I were in your shoes
duron
11-27-2023, 07:30 PM
Aha, big time deceiving tag. I'm assuming the price comes from gramps getting them shortly after release, but even then not sure where he found them. Probably from all the auctions he liked.
I think it probably is the best move to split up the 20/30, and help people complete their sets, you're right. I've started to chat with him :)!
If for whatever reason sonic bows out, hit me up. I pc Penny.
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