Will Luka Doncic ever win an NBA championship?

[hermanotarjeta]

He's good enough that the Dallas Mavericks will never get a high draft pick. Can he win a ring in Dallas?

[the mesiah]

I really want to like him but he needs to assert himself on the defensive side just as much as he does on the offensive side but it’s not in his dna..I say he jumps ship to another team ,colludes and wins a chip down the line .

[hoopstaj]

Maybe?


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[Ferg1945]

If you can't win with Kyrie... who the hell you gonna win with?

What superstar is going to be like... yeah.. gimme that dude!!

He plays absolutely no defense...he just points to a guy for another player to go cover.

Luka is a ball dominant hog that doesn't make others better. Look at his last game.. 33/18/13 in 40 minutes... dude had a game worst... -13 +/- with that box score.... -13!!!!!! Mavs lost by 9... at home.

3 players combine to take 65+% of teams overall shots... that's not a winning formula.

He doesn't play well with others. If Kyrie is controlling the ball... Luka doesn't even get involved in the offense. He just stands around halfway between the 3 point line and half court. I rarely see him running around to get himself a shot.

You just have to look at the All Star game. Luka isn't in control of the ball so he's a lost puppy dog on the court. He doesn't have the game to run around and make passes to set up others for a fun shot. Luka just wants to slow the pace to just him controlling the ball... make a move.. step back and fire a 3. That's not what happens in the ASG. It's a free flowing alley oops, 3 point barrage until the 4th or game score time... whichever one they do now.

If he super team jumps... he'll have to completely change his style of play to fit in with 2 other stars. Controlling the ball for 18 seconds and firing a cross court pass to a guy forced to shoot the ball won't get it done.

If he can't win with Kyrie... I don't see another superstar asking to go to Dallas.
I also don't see him jumping to another team and playing well with others.

I don't see him winning a Championship unless he completely changes the way he plays.

I don't even see him winning an MVP.... (most of everything I just said could be said for Trae Young as well.. he does play ok with others)

[bmf]

He plays no defense and his conditioning is always a question mark. It is absolutely baffling to see the big money that some collectors throw at this guy's cards.

[asujbl]

He plays no defense and his conditioning is always a question mark. It is absolutely baffling to see the big money that some collectors throw at this guy's cards.

Baffling? Really?

You really can’t understand how people would spend money on a 24 year old that has 10,000 points in 366 games?

He has career averages of 28/9/8 at age 24 (yes I realize he’s almost 25… wow)

And that baffles you?

[hermanotarjeta]

Who are his main contemporaries that will prevent him from winning a ring?

Joker/nugs
Booker/suns
Tatum/Celts
Embiid/76ers
Giannis/Bucks

Luka may not have an opportunity to win until later in his career when these guys are way past their primes.

[PLB9eight]

If you can't win with Kyrie... who the hell you gonna win with?

What superstar is going to be like... yeah.. gimme that dude!!

He plays absolutely no defense...he just points to a guy for another player to go cover.

Luka is a ball dominant hog that doesn't make others better. Look at his last game.. 33/18/13 in 40 minutes... dude had a game worst... -13 +/- with that box score.... -13!!!!!! Mavs lost by 9... at home.

3 players combine to take 65+% of teams overall shots... that's not a winning formula.

He doesn't play well with others. If Kyrie is controlling the ball... Luka doesn't even get involved in the offense. He just stands around halfway between the 3 point line and half court. I rarely see him running around to get himself a shot.

You just have to look at the All Star game. Luka isn't in control of the ball so he's a lost puppy dog on the court. He doesn't have the game to run around and make passes to set up others for a fun shot. Luka just wants to slow the pace to just him controlling the ball... make a move.. step back and fire a 3. That's not what happens in the ASG. It's a free flowing alley oops, 3 point barrage until the 4th or game score time... whichever one they do now.

If he super team jumps... he'll have to completely change his style of play to fit in with 2 other stars. Controlling the ball for 18 seconds and firing a cross court pass to a guy forced to shoot the ball won't get it done.

If he can't win with Kyrie... I don't see another superstar asking to go to Dallas.
I also don't see him jumping to another team and playing well with others.

I don't see him winning a Championship unless he completely changes the way he plays.

I don't even see him winning an MVP.... (most of everything I just said could be said for Trae Young as well.. he does play ok with others)


[emoji23]

[Bosoxfan5990]

He won't be the #1 on a championship team.

[pac213up]

His complete disregard for playing defense is a problem. His style of play also produces a lot of empty stats that do not lead to winning. He is still young enough and certainly talented enough to be more Larry Bird and less James Harden.

[cms11]

Baffling? Really?

You really can’t understand how people would spend money on a 24 year old that has 10,000 points in 366 games?

He has career averages of 28/9/8 at age 24 (yes I realize he’s almost 25… wow)

And that baffles you?

He's an offensive freak, but without a title he's going to be just an amazing scorer who couldn't win.

[Scottish Punk]

Baffling? Really?

You really can’t understand how people would spend money on a 24 year old that has 10,000 points in 366 games?

He has career averages of 28/9/8 at age 24 (yes I realize he’s almost 25… wow)

And that baffles you?

I have mentioned this before with Luka. Yes he has a ball hog/no defense issue. But let's face it, that is the style of the NBA now. More importantly, age 26-29 is when most of the legends win their first championship. He is just now going to be entering this window. The next four years will shape is career.

[yiguiri2002]

Baffling? Really?

You really can’t understand how people would spend money on a 24 year old that has 10,000 points in 366 games?

He has career averages of 28/9/8 at age 24 (yes I realize he’s almost 25… wow)

And that baffles you?

I'm baffled that you are baffled

[Nomad]

If they trade him to a team with a stout defense or unlimited budget, has a chance. But in any case, he will always have his collectors.

[hermanotarjeta]

You really don’t need to play defense during the regular season - none of the superstars do.

It’s only in the playoffs where it matters.

Unfortunately, Luka can’t seem to turn the defensive light on in the postseason quickly enough.

He could depend on his teammates, but they don’t show up either.

[GOATcards]

Luka may not have an opportunity to win until later in his career when these guys are way past their primes.

just like LeBum, who couldn't win anything without DWade/Kyrie/Brow to bail him out

[Nomad]

You really don’t need to play defense during the regular season - none of the superstars do.

It takes so much out of you, how could they. Which makes the few who do really exceptional.

[hermanotarjeta]

just like LeBum, who couldn't win anything without DWade/Kyrie/Brow to bail him out

Glad you mentioned it!

I was thinking that Luka’s career is going to mimic Lebron’s, but I didn’t want to be labeled as a Bron boulder holder striker.

[hermanotarjeta]

It takes so much out of you, how could they. Which makes the few who do really exceptional.

Yup.

The NBA wants scoring to increase ratings.

Good defense during the regular season would turn basketball into soccer or hockey - snoozapalooza for the ADHD NBA crowd.

The regular season is turning into the all star game.

[GOATcards]

He's good enough that the Dallas Mavericks will never get a high draft pick. Can he win a ring in Dallas?

the improper comparison here would be to Beard/Stripclub the heliocentric isoball playoff choker, the real comparison is to the fake goat approaching 40k points and that makes you just giddy, I can read your thoughts :popcorn:

[GOATcards]

The regular season is turning into the all star game.

fount of insight this guy

[GOATcards]

this "doesn't play defense so can't win championships" line doesn't carry much weight given who just won the chip, chokic just lets guys drive right by him for easy layups and he hardly contests 3s

Air Gordon and KCP the real finals mvps

[JRX]

Is he more in the Melo camp? He'll get his shots, put up a ton of points, but isn't doing to carry a team to the championship.

[boxbuster7]

He is 24

y'all need to chill

[pac213up]

More importantly, age 26-29 is when most of the legends win their first championship. He is just now going to be entering this window. The next four years will shape is career.

This is very true and accurate.

[hermanotarjeta]

this "doesn't play defense so can't win championships" line doesn't carry much weight given who just won the chip, chokic just lets guys drive right by him for easy layups and he hardly contests 3s

Air Gordon and KCP the real finals mvps

Luka needs a few good enforcing goons on his team.

[jcardstore]

Luka is absolutely good enough to be a title winning player, just needs a better org and coach

[Ferg1945]

He is 24

y'all need to chill

This is his 6th season.

We know who he is by now.

[Ichi]

It's over guys. He won't do anything. He might as well retire I think. Jokic should've retired too 'til he didn't retire and won a championship.

Also, Giannis should've just stopped trying.

Why did Jordan even keep playing after the Pistons beat him up?

Luka is definitely not competitive at all. He's just another goofball that wants a paycheck. Someone send him his retirement papers and just get it over with already.

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One (somewhat) serious quick thought: Tell me any top-tier championship contenders in the past few years that trot out a 'big' like Dwight Powell at starting center? Meanwhile, rotation members up to 6, 7, 8 on the Celtics are all quality starters, if not all-stars, if not all-pro. Guess how many titles? Zero.

Luka took Dallas to the WCF with a below average lineup a couple of years ago. He will have his day(s).

[asujbl]

He's an offensive freak, but without a title he's going to be just an amazing scorer who couldn't win.

And rebounder
And passer

Don’t forget those

[hermanotarjeta]

It's over guys. He won't do anything. He might as well retire I think. Jokic should've retired too 'til he didn't retire and won a championship.

Also, Giannis should've just stopped trying.

Why did Jordan even keep playing after the Pistons beat him up?

Luka is definitely not competitive at all. He's just another goofball that wants a paycheck. Someone send him his retirement papers and just get it over with already.

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One (somewhat) serious quick thought: Tell me any top-tier championship contenders in the past few years that trot out a 'big' like Dwight Powell at starting center? Meanwhile, rotation members up to 6, 7, 8 on the Celtics are all quality starters, if not all-stars, if not all-pro. Guess how many titles? Zero.

Luka took Dallas to the WCF with a below average lineup a couple of years ago. He will have his day(s).

You mean a big like Zyrdrunas Ilgauskas?

[blackandgold]

He will absolutely win a championship- People keep going on and on about scoring When every player on the team can shoot a 3-thats what happens. You get 2-3 players in a game that get hot from the 3 point line Walla-points Most NBA games 90 3 point shots get attempted between both teams

[Asian62150]

Championships aren't guaranteed for anyone and they're won as a team, but Luka has just a good of a chance (if not better) than anyone to hoist the trophy.

Supposedly the Mavs are/will be in a better position to compete for championships now that Cuban sold his majority but we'll see.

[Nomad]

Actually, if Tim Hardaway Jr. plays out of his mind, they have a chance. I say they, though according to popular logic, only one player's prices will go up.

Personally holding on to my raw mint-ish THJ retro PMG rookie red and greens until next holiday thread.

[fabiani12333]

If you can't win with Kyrie... who the hell you gonna win with?

What superstar is going to be like... yeah.. gimme that dude!!

He plays absolutely no defense...he just points to a guy for another player to go cover.

Luka is a ball dominant hog that doesn't make others better. Look at his last game.. 33/18/13 in 40 minutes... dude had a game worst... -13 +/- with that box score.... -13!!!!!! Mavs lost by 9... at home.

3 players combine to take 65+% of teams overall shots... that's not a winning formula.

He doesn't play well with others. If Kyrie is controlling the ball... Luka doesn't even get involved in the offense. He just stands around halfway between the 3 point line and half court. I rarely see him running around to get himself a shot.

You just have to look at the All Star game. Luka isn't in control of the ball so he's a lost puppy dog on the court. He doesn't have the game to run around and make passes to set up others for a fun shot. Luka just wants to slow the pace to just him controlling the ball... make a move.. step back and fire a 3. That's not what happens in the ASG. It's a free flowing alley oops, 3 point barrage until the 4th or game score time... whichever one they do now.

If he super team jumps... he'll have to completely change his style of play to fit in with 2 other stars. Controlling the ball for 18 seconds and firing a cross court pass to a guy forced to shoot the ball won't get it done.

If he can't win with Kyrie... I don't see another superstar asking to go to Dallas.
I also don't see him jumping to another team and playing well with others.

I don't see him winning a Championship unless he completely changes the way he plays.

I don't even see him winning an MVP.... (most of everything I just said could be said for Trae Young as well.. he does play ok with others)

You're describing James Harden 2.0.

[Ferg1945]

You're describing James Harden 2.0.

:)!

He finally has a shot now... he's on a team with 3 other future HOFers.

Guess Luka has a chance... 10 years from now when he joins a team with 3 future HOFers.

It could happen

[Onepocketj]

If you can't win with Kyrie... who the hell you gonna win with?

What superstar is going to be like... yeah.. gimme that dude!!

He plays absolutely no defense...he just points to a guy for another player to go cover.

Luka is a ball dominant hog that doesn't make others better. Look at his last game.. 33/18/13 in 40 minutes... dude had a game worst... -13 +/- with that box score.... -13!!!!!! Mavs lost by 9... at home.

3 players combine to take 65+% of teams overall shots... that's not a winning formula.

He doesn't play well with others. If Kyrie is controlling the ball... Luka doesn't even get involved in the offense. He just stands around halfway between the 3 point line and half court. I rarely see him running around to get himself a shot.

You just have to look at the All Star game. Luka isn't in control of the ball so he's a lost puppy dog on the court. He doesn't have the game to run around and make passes to set up others for a fun shot. Luka just wants to slow the pace to just him controlling the ball... make a move.. step back and fire a 3. That's not what happens in the ASG. It's a free flowing alley oops, 3 point barrage until the 4th or game score time... whichever one they do now.

If he super team jumps... he'll have to completely change his style of play to fit in with 2 other stars. Controlling the ball for 18 seconds and firing a cross court pass to a guy forced to shoot the ball won't get it done.

If he can't win with Kyrie... I don't see another superstar asking to go to Dallas.
I also don't see him jumping to another team and playing well with others.

I don't see him winning a Championship unless he completely changes the way he plays.

I don't even see him winning an MVP.... (most of everything I just said could be said for Trae Young as well.. he does play ok with others)

So is that a "no" vote?

[Ferg1945]

So is that a "no" vote?

I was #2 or #3 to vote No in the poll.

[cms11]

You're describing James Harden 2.0.

Very similar.

https://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/luka_doncic_vs_james_harden.htm

[bmf]

I'm baffled that you are baffled

Seems like a lot of us are.

[Braswell10]

This is easily reminiscent of Lebrons first stint in Cleveland.

[GOATcards]

This is easily reminiscent of Lebrons first stint in Cleveland.

difference being that Luka is a Euro player and so not an entitled soft me-lennial, no cowardly team-hopping for him

[drobfan8]

It's over guys. He won't do anything. He might as well retire I think. Jokic should've retired too 'til he didn't retire and won a championship.

Also, Giannis should've just stopped trying.

Why did Jordan even keep playing after the Pistons beat him up?

Luka is definitely not competitive at all. He's just another goofball that wants a paycheck. Someone send him his retirement papers and just get it over with already.

----

One (somewhat) serious quick thought: Tell me any top-tier championship contenders in the past few years that trot out a 'big' like Dwight Powell at starting center? Meanwhile, rotation members up to 6, 7, 8 on the Celtics are all quality starters, if not all-stars, if not all-pro. Guess how many titles? Zero.

Luka took Dallas to the WCF with a below average lineup a couple of years ago. He will have his day(s).

Well said.

I saw some info that Luka has already faced more All NBA players in the Playoffs than LeBron did in his 8 Finals runs in the East.

Only issue is currently the Mavs are not close to a contending team.

Luka probably does need to move on to win. Or he needs a legit big man and a roster that isn't full of cast off's and late round picks.

He's overachieved so far except last season.

Embiid is in year 10 and still hasn't done anything. Yet looks ready. 10 seasons!

[elsoblanco]

No. He doesn’t elevate the play of his teams. He’s a fat dude who walks the ball up the court and piles up stats and plays no defense. He will be out in the first round of the playoffs this year. Some national pundit compared him to Larry Bird. Lmao. No. Larrry Bird was a winner, which is the purpose of playing basketball.

[Braswell10]

difference being that Luka is a Euro player and so not an entitled soft me-lennial, no cowardly team-hopping for him

I don’t know about that. He just got a fan thrown at for telling him to run on a treadmill.

Luka is as soft as they come.

[eastbayak]

It's over guys. He won't do anything. He might as well retire I think. Jokic should've retired too 'til he didn't retire and won a championship.

Also, Giannis should've just stopped trying.

Why did Jordan even keep playing after the Pistons beat him up?

Luka is definitely not competitive at all. He's just another goofball that wants a paycheck. Someone send him his retirement papers and just get it over with already.

----

One (somewhat) serious quick thought: Tell me any top-tier championship contenders in the past few years that trot out a 'big' like Dwight Powell at starting center? Meanwhile, rotation members up to 6, 7, 8 on the Celtics are all quality starters, if not all-stars, if not all-pro. Guess how many titles? Zero.

Luka took Dallas to the WCF with a below average lineup a couple of years ago. He will have his day(s).

Well, Jordan benefited from the Bulls drafting Pippen and Pippen signing a very team-friendly deal.

You won't see that happen again.

Not to mention, competition back then wasn't nearly as good as it is today.

[TheFrenzy]

Luka is bae. I believe in him.

[hermanotarjeta]

Well, Jordan benefited from the Bulls drafting Pippen and Pippen signing a very team-friendly deal.

You won't see that happen again.

Not to mention, competition back then wasn't nearly as good as it is today.

Actually, the Bulls traded for Pippen.

Pippen was drafted by the Sonics.

[Boo]

He needs to get his a** on a treadmill.

[GOATcards]

https://www.blowoutforums.com/image.php?u=79&dateline=1701207364
He needs to get his a** on a treadmill.

:popcorn:

[GOATcards]

how relevant?

According to this measure, Luka is having trouble improving these recent years, and he might not even be adding value like the others graphed

https://i.imgur.com/ImF4UwF.jpeg

so maybe bring on Luka to OKC, says DEN?

[tjforce]

This is easily reminiscent of Lebrons first stint in Cleveland.

difference being that Luka is a Euro player and so not an entitled soft me-lennial, no cowardly team-hopping for him

That, and by 25 LeBron had 2 MVPs and a Finals appearance, while Luka finds himself waffling among the play-in crowd after missing the play-in completely last year.

But other than that, the same.

[GOATcards]

That, and by 25 LeBron had 2 MVPs and a Finals appearance, while Luka finds himself waffling among the play-in crowd after missing the play-in completely last year.

But other than that, the same.

which nothing teams did Bron get through in the East again?

can't argue with the MVPs part

[cms11]

No. He doesn’t elevate the play of his teams. He’s a fat dude who walks the ball up the court and piles up stats and plays no defense. He will be out in the first round of the playoffs this year. Some national pundit compared him to Larry Bird. Lmao. No. Larrry Bird was a winner, which is the purpose of playing basketball.

It's strange how little criticism Doncic gets for being out of shape compared to Zion.

[cardozo]

It's strange how little criticism Doncic gets for being out of shape compared to Zion.

You can’t criticize your own cash cow :D.

[asymmetricalbet]

I think he can do it. It's still early. I'd give him another three years. I don't think playing with Kyrie is the answer though. They don't complement each other super well.

[asujbl]

It's strange how little criticism Doncic gets for being out of shape compared to Zion.

No it’s not

Doncic has played 367 games out of 447 (82%)

Zion has played 150 games out of 364 (41%)

I know he missed a year… that’s absolutely part of this discussion

Luka plays out of shape

Zion doesn’t and gets hurt because of it

[Kobefan]

No it’s not

Doncic has played 367 games out of 447 (82%)

Zion has played 150 games out of 364 (41%)

I know he missed a year… that’s absolutely part of this discussion

Luka plays out of shape

Zion doesn’t and gets hurt because of it

Not to mention that one is simply out of shape, the other is fat, or borderline obese.

[asujbl]

Not to mention that one is simply out of shape, the other is fat, or borderline obese.

Fair point

[eastbayak]

which nothing teams did Bron get through in the East again?

can't argue with the MVPs part

LeBron took this team to the NBA Finals....Luka couldn't even get to the playoffs with Kyrie.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuQcAB-aIAAJ238?format=jpg&name=large

[eastbayak]

By the way, I still think Luka is a great player and young enough to win multiple CHIPs with the right team (and competition).

Way too early to judge him. People wrote Curry off at 23 years old and look where he's at now.

[asujbl]

By the way, I still think Luka is a great player and young enough to win multiple CHIPs with the right team (and competition).

Way too early to judge him. People wrote Curry off at 23 years old and look where he's at now.

They did? He was almost 22 when he was drafted

You have a better memory than I do

[eastbayak]

They did? He was almost 22 when he was drafted

You have a better memory than I do

Haha yeah, multiple ankle injuries (glass ankles). People thought he wouldn’t be able to overcome it.

[tjforce]

LeBron took this team to the NBA Finals....Luka couldn't even get to the playoffs with Kyrie.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuQcAB-aIAAJ238?format=jpg&name=large

Scoring 25 straight points in the 4th/OT on the road against that Pistons team, including the game winner with 2 seconds left, was one of the best individual performances I've ever seen.

[drobfan8]

Luka has had to face way tougher competition than LeBron. And with less.

Lebron beat Arenas, Vince/Kidd, Billups/Rip.

Not exactly world beaters

The Jazz and Pheonix teams he beat 2 seasons ago were better.

He's lost to Kawhi and Steph in the Playoffs and faced more All NBA players than LeBron did in the East.

I do think Luka needs to commit to being a better athlete. Fitter, faster. His pace is too slow.

[asujbl]

Haha yeah, multiple ankle injuries (glass ankles). People thought he wouldn’t be able to overcome it.

How is that the same as a guy that has scored 10,000 points at age 24?

[asujbl]

Scoring 25 straight points in the 4th/OT on the road against that Pistons team, including the game winner with 2 seconds left, was one of the best individual performances I've ever seen.

That’s one of those games you remember where you were when you saw it

[hermanotarjeta]

LeBron took this team to the NBA Finals....Luka couldn't even get to the playoffs with Kyrie.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuQcAB-aIAAJ238?format=jpg&name=large

Shows you exactly what a cakewalk the eastern conference was when Bron was in Cleveland - it was a bye every year.

[HeyRelaxGuy]

This is what I can see happening in the future:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fx3v-alaQAA6UWb.jpg

[drobfan8]

Shows you exactly what a cakewalk the eastern conference was when Bron was in Cleveland - it was a bye every year.

People love to talk about that achievement as being so great.

Luol Deng lead the Bulls to 49 wins that season. The East was atrocious.

If they were in the West that record gets them 6th place and vsing the Spurs in the 1st round and being swept.

[drobfan8]

This is what I can see happening in the future:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fx3v-alaQAA6UWb.jpg

You're probably right.

Life would be pretty easy for Luka if he went there to replace LeBron.

[tjforce]

Shows you exactly what a cakewalk the eastern conference was when Bron was in Cleveland - it was a bye every year.

Which is why an Eastern Conference team won the title in both the year before and after 2006-07.

As a matter of fact, the East produced and NBA Champion 3 of the 7 years LeBron played in Cleveland the first run. As close to half as possible.

Try harder, I know you will.

[hermanotarjeta]

Which is why an Eastern Conference team won the title in both the year before and after 2006-07.

As a matter of fact, the East produced and NBA Champion 3 of the 7 years LeBron played in Cleveland the first run. As close to half as possible.

Try harder, I know you will.

Which means the west still won the majority of championships during that period after beating each other up against other powerhouses.

[asujbl]

Which is why an Eastern Conference team won the title in both the year before and after 2006-07.

As a matter of fact, the East produced and NBA Champion 3 of the 7 years LeBron played in Cleveland the first run. As close to half as possible.

Try harder, I know you will.

He won’t. He’s lazy as #@#@#@#@

[asujbl]

Which means the west still won the majority of championships during that period after beating each other up against other powerhouses.

This is literally the dumbest post in history. It’s like you didn’t read any others

[drobfan8]

Which is why an Eastern Conference team won the title in both the year before and after 2006-07.

As a matter of fact, the East produced and NBA Champion 3 of the 7 years LeBron played in Cleveland the first run. As close to half as possible.

Try harder, I know you will.

The East team that won in 2008 wasn't even together prior to that. :p

[drobfan8]

Which means the west still won the majority of championships during that period after beating each other up against other powerhouses.

Defending the East in the 2000s is not the best hill to die on.

The West had teams winning 50 games and missing the Playoffs.

They also had multiple considers. It was stacked and brutal just to get to the Finals.

[yiguiri2002]

Making the conference finals during that era was easy. Making the Finals wasn't. You either had to beat either the Pistons or Celtics to do it.

It's as impressive as Luka making the Conference Finals two years ago. Huge accomplishment for both at a young age.

[drobfan8]

Making the conference finals during that era was easy. Making the Finals wasn't. You either had to beat either the Pistons or Celtics to do it.

It's as impressive as Luka making the Conference Finals two years ago. Huge accomplishment for both at a young age.

I agree.

That's why it's funny the peanut gallery in here want to ignore the fact that Luka beat a 64 win Phoenix team to then face the Dubs.

People also want to ignore that the Pistons without Wallace weren't that special.

LeBron was really that great with those Cavs teams. But the conference was atrocious. Both things can be true.

Luka is still going to own this league at some stage. Might be a few seasons away though.

Just team him up with an elite big man and 3 and d guys.

[yiguiri2002]

Perfect timing for this thread

[kluke84]

Two both with Mavs

[Ferg1945]

He's winning 4 Championships and 3 MVPs this year.

Did you see what he did tonight??? Never in my life!!!

[yiguiri2002]

I agree.

That's why it's funny the peanut gallery in here want to ignore the fact that Luka beat a 64 win Phoenix team to then face the Dubs.

People also want to ignore that the Pistons without Wallace weren't that special.

LeBron was really that great with those Cavs teams. But the conference was atrocious. Both things can be true.

Luka is still going to own this league at some stage. Might be a few seasons away though.

Just team him up with an elite big man and 3 and d guys.

I remember that Pistons series. LeBron was incredible, that was his coming out party and really showed the world he was taking over.

That being said, I don't think that Pistons team makes the WCF that year. So take it as it is.

[cardsin47]

How many NBA Players in history have scored 73 points or more in 1 game?

[lseecon]

i like all these fat ass smelly dudes on this message board living in their parents basements who couldnt make a free throw in a kids grade school game whining about how Luka sucks and cant win a championship at 24 or 25 years old.
only on blowout message boards can a first ballot hall of famer who will go down as one of the top 10 players of all time be scorched incessantly.

does make for good entertainment though

[Ferg1945]

How many NBA Players in history have scored 73 points or more in 1 game?

https://i.ibb.co/SwsbrTW/ko.jpg

[cardsin47]

https://i.ibb.co/SwsbrTW/ko.jpg

Wow!!

[fabiani12333]

i like all these fat ass smelly dudes on this message board living in their parents basements who couldnt make a free throw in a kids grade school game whining about how Luka sucks and cant win a championship at 24 or 25 years old.
only on blowout message boards can a first ballot hall of famer who will go down as one of the top 10 players of all time be scorched incessantly.

does make for good entertainment though

Wow -- you're clearly heavily invested in his cards.

Seeing how you know his future, how many titles is he going to win?

[fabiani12333]

Just team him up with an elite big man and 3 and d guys.

That was literally Iverson's lone path to the finals.

[JRX]

How many NBA Players in history have scored 73 points or more in 1 game?I didn't see the game, but with almost 300 pts scored in regulation, was this all star game level defense? Are 3pt stats part of the fg stats? Did he take 33 or 46 shots?

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[kluke84]

I didn't see the game, but with almost 300 pts scored in regulation, was this all star game level defense? Are 3pt stats part of the fg stats? Did he take 33 or 46 shots?

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I only caught the last 5 min but he was getting doubled on every play. Can't argue 25-33 and 8-13 from 3, wasn't spraying. Not to add the 10/7

[kluke84]

I only caught the last 5 min but he was getting doubled on every play. Can't argue 25-33 and 8-13 from 3, wasn't spraying. Not to add the 10/7

https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1751071226120884289?t=QsokTul9LBr1vkeXM4YLWQ&s=19

[JRX]

So 2 70pt games in same week? When was embids?

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[drobfan8]

I remember that Pistons series. LeBron was incredible, that was his coming out party and really showed the world he was taking over.

That being said, I don't think that Pistons team makes the WCF that year. So take it as it is.

LeBron's coming out party for sure. Once he realised they had no rim protection (an old C. Webb and Sheed) he couldn't be stopped.

Wow -- you're clearly heavily invested in his cards.

Seeing how you know his future, how many titles is he going to win?

He's only telling the truth. Have a look at card shows. Mostly overweight dudes claiming to be know it all basketball savants.

That was literally Iverson's lone path to the finals.

Who was his elite big? I'm talking someone that can also score. Although I bet if Dallas had even Gobert he would help them massively. Just like in Minny and Utah.

I didn't see the game, but with almost 300 pts scored in regulation, was this all star game level defense? Are 3pt stats part of the fg stats? Did he take 33 or 46 shots?

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Dallas were pushing the ball in transition even off ATL makes. Dallas did go with 5 guards at one point.

It was just a modern NBA game.

[hermanotarjeta]

So 2 70pt games in same week? When was embids?

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I remember this happening last season for a few weeks.

There were rumors about some tacit bounties/competition to see who could score the most points to stir up interest in the NBA regular season.

[cms11]

I didn't see the game, but with almost 300 pts scored in regulation, was this all star game level defense? Are 3pt stats part of the fg stats? Did he take 33 or 46 shots?

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There's no defense anymore against the top players.

[Nomad]

So 2 70pt games in same week? When was embids?

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Before Luka's apparently... https://i.imgur.com/PWIVG0sl.png