Kyren Lacy Arrest Warrant issued

[jlzinck]

Probably not gonna get drafted now sir


https://www.wafb.com/2025/01/10/lsu-standout-kyren-lacy-wanted-charges-negligent-homicide-felony-hit-and-run/

[Bosoxfan5990]

Probably not gonna get drafted now sir


https://www.wafb.com/2025/01/10/lsu-standout-kyren-lacy-wanted-charges-negligent-homicide-felony-hit-and-run/

If true, this guy is a massive PO...

[JeremyNick]

Time to scoop up some cards dirt cheap.

[Retired hobbist]

Time to scoop up some cards dirt cheap.

He won't be drafted as he was viewed as around the 15th receiving prospect.

NIL money clearly went to his head, I don't think in the days of golden hand shakes he would have been able to scrape together the cash to have his own ride and kill other people while driving drunk or high.

[packman80]

Probably tries to see if he can get a plea deal but yeah this guy won't get drafted and doubt he even gets signed as a UDFA. Probably ends up in CFL or UFL.

[patchgenie]

leave him in a jail cell with ruggs

[Baraka]

Bone head move.

[jlzinck]

Jesus....he killed himself.

[crazy4kinsler]

I just saw the story on ESPN that he was found dead. It didn't say, and I haven't seen it anywhere, that is as you said.

Jesus....he killed himself.

[Retired hobbist]

Jesus....he killed himself.

Sad conclusion to this story....

I wonder if CTE was a factor in this drama...

[slyguy]

Sad conclusion to this story....

I wonder if CTE was a factor in this drama...Nah, it's more being young and making a mistake...
and having a bunch of people critiquing your every move.
We've all done the first part... second part not so much (because we're not famous).

...I'm not a veterinarian, but I know a few, and this is getting reasonably common among the young ones (suicide due to bad and nasty social media / google reviews from ppl who are over-bonded with their pet can can't handle that the animal got old). When people feel like they've failed their family or they have no purpose, it's normal to at least think of suicide. Same thing with asia kids not getting into a good college, and that's been amplified with internet/social.

Social media / internet is crummy like that... everyone's guilty until proven innocent (and then damage is already done).

OP, maybe change title to "RIP Kyren Lacy"?

[asujbl]

Nah, it's more being young and making a mistake...
and having a bunch of people critiquing your every move.
We've all done the first part... second part not so much (because we're not famous).

...I'm not a veterinarian, but I know a few, and this is getting reasonably common among the young ones (suicide due to bad and nasty social media / google reviews from ppl who are over-bonded with their pet can can't handle that the animal got old). When people feel like they've failed their family or they have no purpose, it's normal to at least think of suicide. Same thing with asia kids not getting into a good college, and that's been amplified with internet/social.

Social media / internet is crummy like that... everyone's guilty until proven innocent (and then damage is already done).

OP, maybe change title to "RIP Kyren Lacy"?

This is certainly something

[sportzluvr1]

Nah, it's more being young and making a mistake...
and having a bunch of people critiquing your every move.
We've all done the first part... second part not so much (because we're not famous).

...I'm not a veterinarian, but I know a few, and this is getting reasonably common among the young ones (suicide due to bad and nasty social media / google reviews from ppl who are over-bonded with their pet can can't handle that the animal got old). When people feel like they've failed their family or they have no purpose, it's normal to at least think of suicide. Same thing with asia kids not getting into a good college, and that's been amplified with internet/social.

Social media / internet is crummy like that... everyone's guilty until proven innocent (and then damage is already done).

OP, maybe change title to "RIP Kyren Lacy"?

R u o k

[anusinha]

R u o k

Annie?

[ZappBrannigan]

Nah, it's more being young and making a mistake...
and having a bunch of people critiquing your every move.
We've all done the first part... second part not so much (because we're not famous).

...I'm not a veterinarian, but I know a few, and this is getting reasonably common among the young ones (suicide due to bad and nasty social media / google reviews from ppl who are over-bonded with their pet can can't handle that the animal got old). When people feel like they've failed their family or they have no purpose, it's normal to at least think of suicide. Same thing with asia kids not getting into a good college, and that's been amplified with internet/social.

Social media / internet is crummy like that... everyone's guilty until proven innocent (and then damage is already done).

OP, maybe change title to "RIP Kyren Lacy"?

You aren't a vet? lol.

[Siberian13]

I’m not sure what veterinarians have to do with all this.

[majestik101]

Thoughts and prayers

[Bosoxfan5990]

Nah, it's more being young and making a mistake...
and having a bunch of people critiquing your every move.
We've all done the first part... second part not so much (because we're not famous).

...I'm not a veterinarian, but I know a few, and this is getting reasonably common among the young ones (suicide due to bad and nasty social media / google reviews from ppl who are over-bonded with their pet can can't handle that the animal got old). When people feel like they've failed their family or they have no purpose, it's normal to at least think of suicide. Same thing with asia kids not getting into a good college, and that's been amplified with internet/social.

Social media / internet is crummy like that... everyone's guilty until proven innocent (and then damage is already done).

OP, maybe change title to "RIP Kyren Lacy"?

ChatGPT response.

[no10pin]

Nah, it's more being young and making a mistake...
and having a bunch of people critiquing your every move.
We've all done the first part... second part not so much (because we're not famous).

...I'm not a veterinarian, but I know a few, and this is getting reasonably common among the young ones (suicide due to bad and nasty social media / google reviews from ppl who are over-bonded with their pet can can't handle that the animal got old). When people feel like they've failed their family or they have no purpose, it's normal to at least think of suicide. Same thing with asia kids not getting into a good college, and that's been amplified with internet/social.

Social media / internet is crummy like that... everyone's guilty until proven innocent (and then damage is already done).

OP, maybe change title to "RIP Kyren Lacy"?

I'm just double-checking because, well....it's you.

You know that the vet that was killed in the accident back in January was a Marine and not a veterinarian, right?

[slyguy]

...You know that the vet that was killed in the accident back in January was a Marine and not a veterinarian, right?Obviously, man... but the suicide was due to media / internet pressure.

That was the point I was making: it's hard to handle the scrutiny and bad press of online / social media for many people. Veterinary docs are smarter than MDs on average - top 1% of people, yet even they not immune to the pain of online criticism / accusations (https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20231010-the-acute-suicide-crisis-among-veterinarians-youre-always-going-to-be-failing-somebody).

The guy in question was arrested months ago, got bail, awaited trial, did workouts in March at LSU pro day...
...then suicide now (right when the story broke widespread national media).

Very said situation.



You aren't a vet? lol.No, I'm a doc (humans). I was using veterinary as an example of how bad accusation/ bullying/ press can affect even the most highly intelligent and quality of people.

[majestik101]

Obviously, man... but the suicide was due to media / internet pressure.

That was the point I was making: it's hard to handle the scrutiny and bad press of online / social media for many people. Veterinary docs are smarter than MDs on average - top 1% of people, yet even they not immune to the pain of online criticism / accusations (https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20231010-the-acute-suicide-crisis-among-veterinarians-youre-always-going-to-be-failing-somebody).

The guy in question was arrested months ago, got bail, awaited trial, did workouts in March at LSU pro day...
...then suicide now (right when the story broke widespread national media).

Very said situation.



No, I'm a doc (humans). I was using veterinary as an example of how bad accusation/ bullying/ press can affect even the most highly intelligent and quality of people.

Very said indeed.

You're a doctor? Pray I never get sick when you're around.

[Whodatiz]

Obviously, man... but the suicide was due to media / internet pressure.

That was the point I was making: it's hard to handle the scrutiny and bad press of online / social media for many people. Veterinary docs are smarter than MDs on average - top 1% of people, yet even they not immune to the pain of online criticism / accusations (https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20231010-the-acute-suicide-crisis-among-veterinarians-youre-always-going-to-be-failing-somebody).

The guy in question was arrested months ago, got bail, awaited trial, did workouts in March at LSU pro day...
...then suicide now (right when the story broke widespread national media).

Very said situation.



No, I'm a doc (humans). I was using veterinary as an example of how bad accusation/ bullying/ press can affect even the most highly intelligent and quality of people.

Thought you ran a biz? Now, you’re a doctor?

Right.

[BostonNut]

Thought you ran a biz? Now, you’re a doctor?

Right.

Does both, duh.

That and is mayor and the chief of police.

Not bad considering I had him estimated at 13. :cry:

[asujbl]

I would definitely trust my health with a Doctor that writes "I'm a doc (humans)" on a message board

[hermanotarjeta]

Annie?

This is excellent, bravo!!

[slyguy]

Does both, duh....Correct, that's what most specialists do.
Primary care and some rare surgeons work for hospitals or other docs, but you make more having your own offices. It's common knowledge that docs generally work private practice for themselves or other docs in good insurance areas, work for hospitals in poorly insured areas.

...but that's not what the topic is here. At all. Great job by all trying to make it that. Last word is yours, guys...

RIP to this player, and strength to his family.
The take home msg here is that suicide is a very real thing among both famous and normal ppl, and maybe be careful railing people online (esp when it's just pending charges or accusation?).

[ssbledsoe]

Correct, that's what most specialists do.
Primary care and some rare surgeons work for hospitals or other docs, but you make more having your own offices. It's common knowledge that docs generally work private practice for themselves or other docs in good insurance areas, work for hospitals in poorly insured areas.

...but that's not what the topic is here. At all. Great job by all trying to make it that. Last word is yours, guys...

RIP to this player, and strength to his family.
The take home msg here is that suicide is a very real thing among both famous and normal ppl, and maybe be careful railing people online (esp when it's just pending charges or accusation?).

Will the real Dr Nick, please stand up...

[Whodatiz]

Correct, that's what most specialists do.
Primary care and some rare surgeons work for hospitals or other docs, but you make more having your own offices. It's common knowledge that docs generally work private practice for themselves or other docs in good insurance areas, work for hospitals in poorly insured areas.

...but that's not what the topic is here. At all. Great job by all trying to make it that. Last word is yours, guys...

RIP to this player, and strength to his family.
The take home msg here is that suicide is a very real thing among both famous and normal ppl, and maybe be careful railing people online (esp when it's just pending charges or accusation?).

What specialty do you practice?

[Fulmer4MVP]

Obviously, man... but the suicide was due to media / internet pressure.

That was the point I was making: it's hard to handle the scrutiny and bad press of online / social media for many people. Veterinary docs are smarter than MDs on average - top 1% of people, yet even they not immune to the pain of online criticism / accusations (https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20231010-the-acute-suicide-crisis-among-veterinarians-youre-always-going-to-be-failing-somebody).

The guy in question was arrested months ago, got bail, awaited trial, did workouts in March at LSU pro day...
...then suicide now (right when the story broke widespread national media).

Very said situation.



No, I'm a doc (humans). I was using veterinary as an example of how bad accusation/ bullying/ press can affect even the most highly intelligent and quality of people.

Yeah, are you sure about that?

[TheHeel]

Will the real Dr Nick, please stand up...

https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExd3hrYWIzZ2JleW05d3VrM28ybm1iNjhsOHpreGZkYjhkbWh2b2Y0byZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/ToMjGpx9F5ktZw8qPUQ/giphy.gif

[Fenway55]

Does both, duh.

That and is mayor and the chief of police.

Not bad considering I had him estimated at 13. :cry:It has been my experience that doctors do not refer to themselves or refer collectively to other doctors as "docs". :coffee::coffee::coffee:

[mjekase]

This is a sad story, and social media can definitely push people into a dark place. But based on the latest, that's not what happened here.

[Fenway55]

Very said indeed.

You're a doctor? Pray I never get sick when you're around.
https://i.postimg.cc/28m6TKm2/images-1.jpg

[DMACcollector]

I run my own biz for a professional occupation, yes.

I don’t think I’ve ever heard a doctor say those words to describe what they do for a living, but you never know.

[Jazz Chisholm]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard a doctor say those words to describe what they do for a living, but you never know.

lmaooo, doctor my ass. He probably works at a vape shop and refers to the Delta-8 gummies he hocks as “medicine”

[asujbl]

Have you noticed he never replies to thing?

Why is Travis Hunter dumber than a box of rocks?
Why did he really compare Cam Ward to Kordell Stewart, Quincy Carter, and Jameis Winston
Why won’t he tell us what his medical specialty is?

Wild stuff

[mfisher27]

Have you noticed he never replies to thing?

Why is Travis Hunter dumber than a box of rocks?
Why did he really compare Cam Ward to Kordell Stewart, Quincy Carter, and Jameis Winston
Why won’t he tell us what his medical specialty is?

Wild stuff

There are 4 people on these boards that I don't need to see their name or picture and I know who it is based on their comment alone. He recently made it into that top 4.

[Boo]

Have you noticed he never replies to thing?

Why is Travis Hunter dumber than a box of rocks?
Why did he really compare Cam Ward to Kordell Stewart, Quincy Carter, and Jameis Winston
Why won’t he tell us what his medical specialty is?

Wild stuff

He has you on ignore, that's why he doesn't reply to you.

[asujbl]

He has you on ignore, that's why he doesn't reply to you.

Only one of those was my question

I know I’m on ignore

[patchgenie]

my bad...RIP

the media lies

[Siberian13]

So this guy’s life was ruined? What in the world? I’m assuming a big lawsuit against thepolice dept?

[ScooterD]

my bad...RIP

the media lies

So this guy’s life was ruined? What in the world? I’m assuming a big lawsuit against thepolice dept?

So - which is it?

Did the cops get it wrong or lie, and then the media reported it… or did the media report things different from what the cops said happened?

[Siberian13]

So - which is it?

Did the cops get it wrong or lie, and then the media reported it… or did the media report things different from what the cops said happened?

With cameras everywhere I don’t know why people jump to conclusions. Just sad a man lost his life and did nothing wrong.

[Siberian13]

Thanks for saying it on national TV Ryan Clark. RIP young man. So sad

[EBCollectibles]

With cameras everywhere I don’t know why people jump to conclusions. Just sad a man lost his life and did nothing wrong.

If you done nothing wrong why do you continue to run from the law and then kill yourself? That is very strange.

[EBCollectibles]

So - which is it?

Did the cops get it wrong or lie, and then the media reported it… or did the media report things different from what the cops said happened?

Do you know much of the media that tell the truth?

[Boo]

If you done nothing wrong why do you continue to run from the law and then kill yourself? That is very strange.

This post is very strange

[ScooterD]

Do you know much of the media that tell the truth?

This post is very strange

This one too

[EBCollectibles]

This post is very strange

What is strange about it? If not guilty why do you continue to flee and then kill yourself?. Curious to hear an answer. If your are innocent of something are you going to continue to run and then kill yourself?

[EBCollectibles]

This one too

What is strange about it? If not guilty why do you continue to flee and then kill yourself?. Curious to hear an answer. If your are innocent of something are you going to continue to run and then kill yourself?

[88horsepower]

Thanks for saying it on national TV Ryan Clark. RIP young man. So sad

I appreciate Ryan Clark commenting on this during the postgame broadcast with AVP. I have to be honest, I didn't know a thing about the Kyren Lacy situation, as I am not a college football fan, but Clark's comment got my attention.

[jlzinck]

This post is very strange

Today is Tuesday

[Siberian13]

So now they are saying he still caused the issue? No clue what happened based on so many different stories.

[packman80]

So now they are saying he still caused the issue? No clue what happened based on so many different stories.

Police say his wreckless driving caused others to crash trying to avoid him.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46524394/la-state-police-kyren-lacy-operation-car-triggered-events-caused-fatal-crash

[EBCollectibles]

If you are not guilty you don't continue to run from the law and then shoot yourself. Keep listening to media they are the reason so many problems in this country.

[ninjacookies]

The video footage has all been released. You can draw your own conclusions.


Few things:

1) his green Charger was definitely speeding. as to how much that was a factor or direct factor in the events is not entirely clear

2) It appears a truck did try to swerve to avoid Lacy who was trying to overtake cars in a non-overtaking allowed zone. 2 way street.

3) police initially reported that he was 'ahead' of the accident. Which was incorrect. He was behind the accident and came up onto it several moments after it occurred.

4) Being that he was behind the accident, he was not legally 'obligated' to stay or tend to it. Sure, morally it would have been a great thing to do, but how many of you simply drive past an accident scene that's recently occurred that you had no involvement in? The key part here is whether or not he actually knew or thought he was the cause of the accident. Which we'll never know.


Police fumbled this by changing the story. They also did not take all eye witness accounts into consideration, including some that may have theoretically exonerated him.


They will most likely be put through the ringers in a civil suit.

[Siberian13]

The video footage has all been released. You can draw your own conclusions.


Few things:

1) his green Charger was definitely speeding. as to how much that was a factor or direct factor in the events is not entirely clear

2) It appears a truck did try to swerve to avoid Lacy who was trying to overtake cars in a non-overtaking allowed zone. 2 way street.

3) police initially reported that he was 'ahead' of the accident. Which was incorrect. He was behind the accident and came up onto it several moments after it occurred.

4) Being that he was behind the accident, he was not legally 'obligated' to stay or tend to it. Sure, morally it would have been a great thing to do, but how many of you simply drive past an accident scene that's recently occurred that you had no involvement in? The key part here is whether or not he actually knew or thought he was the cause of the accident. Which we'll never know.


Police fumbled this by changing the story. They also did not take all eye witness accounts into consideration, including some that may have theoretically exonerated him.


They will most likely be put through the ringers in a civil suit.

Wasn’t he also on the run or in some trouble for a domestic incident or something? I hate how many different stories I’ve read.

[ninjacookies]

Wasn’t he also on the run or in some trouble for a domestic incident or something? I hate how many different stories I’ve read.

No. He never had any legal or dv disputes outside of this.

I'd suggest not sourcing your 'news' from rando social media accounts. Everything these days, including this, are being politicized.


I will say...nothing good has ever come out of modern Mopar. Scatpacks, Hellcats, Red Eyes, R/T's...nothing good. Now that isn't some legally binding statement or implication on this case, just my general observation. These cars attract the most obnoxious and reckless driving personalities, regardless of race or social status.

[Siberian13]

No. He never had any legal or dv disputes outside of this.

I'd suggest not sourcing your 'news' from rando social media accounts. Everything these days, including this, are being politicized.


I will say...nothing good has ever come out of modern Mopar. Scatpacks, Hellcats, Red Eyes, R/T's...nothing good. Now that isn't some legally binding statement or implication on this case, just my general observation. These cars attract the most obnoxious and reckless driving personalities, regardless of race or social status.

AI got me I’m sure

[Noles939913]

Still bizarre that the day before his first court appearance he gets into an argument with his family, fires off a gun, and then shoots himself while taking police on a high speed chase after his family called it in.

[Siberian13]

Still bizarre that the day before his first court appearance he gets into an argument with his family, fires off a gun, and then shoots himself while taking police on a high speed chase after his family called it in.

Yeah that’s what I read

[Archangel1775]

The video footage has all been released. You can draw your own conclusions.


Few things:

1) his green Charger was definitely speeding. as to how much that was a factor or direct factor in the events is not entirely clear

2) It appears a truck did try to swerve to avoid Lacy who was trying to overtake cars in a non-overtaking allowed zone. 2 way street.

3) police initially reported that he was 'ahead' of the accident. Which was incorrect. He was behind the accident and came up onto it several moments after it occurred.

4) Being that he was behind the accident, he was not legally 'obligated' to stay or tend to it. Sure, morally it would have been a great thing to do, but how many of you simply drive past an accident scene that's recently occurred that you had no involvement in? The key part here is whether or not he actually knew or thought he was the cause of the accident. Which we'll never know.


Police fumbled this by changing the story. They also did not take all eye witness accounts into consideration, including some that may have theoretically exonerated him.


They will most likely be put through the ringers in a civil suit.

I can't logically see anything in the video that would suggest it was Lacy's driving as the cause of that specific crash. It was way too far in front of him in my opinion. The sad part is police are doubling down even after all the video is taken into account. What bothers me is where the hell what all of this evidence before?

So after watching the video the police released along with the diagrams, a gold pickup truck traveling the opposite direction of Lacy apparently saw him approaching from over 200 yards away, at a high rate of speed, slammed on his brakes and pulled to the right. The reaction of the KIA, who was behind him(the gold truck), was to pull into oncoming traffic colliding with an SUV head-on, all while Lacy was about 100 yards away and seemed to have merged back into regular traffic. You could hear the collision after his downshift and merge. I don't get it.

[ninjacookies]

I can't logically see anything in the video that would suggest it was Lacy's driving as the cause of that specific crash. It was way too far in front of him in my opinion. The sad part is police are doubling down even after all the video is taken into account. What bothers me is where the hell what all of this evidence before?

So after watching the video the police released along with the diagrams, a gold pickup truck traveling the opposite direction of Lacy apparently saw him approaching from over 200 yards away, at a high rate of speed, slammed on his brakes and pulled to the right. The reaction of the KIA, who was behind him(the gold truck), was to pull into oncoming traffic colliding with an SUV head-on, all while Lacy was about 100 yards away and seemed to have merged back into regular traffic. You could hear the collision after his downshift and merge. I don't get it.


I'm kind of with you on the first point. The mixed jumble of videos were all taken at different distances and from a side (not aerial) perspective. Additionally, it never really showed the exact moment the collision happened and exactly where Kyren's car was when it occurred, since they weren't in close enough proximity to fit in the same frame. Kyren's lawyer contends the Charger was nearly a football field away when the crash went down.

Here's the big thing for me. The lady that crashed into the oncoming vehicle (killing its occupants) was originally cited by Louisiana police for tailgating the truck in front of her. The driver of that truck corroborated this by stating that she was riding way too close to him and that he believed that was the primary cause of the accident.

However the police I believe dropped that charge against her and pretty much ignored that truck driver's statement and put all the focus back on Kyren's charger. Their entire linking seems to be based on the fact his car was captured on video speeding and perhaps overtaking vehicles on a 2 lane street...but nothing linking him to the direct causation of the accident.


Major blunder regardless how this plays out. They've changed the events of the story leading up to the video release and are possibly complicit in witness tampering and coercion.

Regardless who was at fault, the innocent victim that lost their life deserved better from the investigation. Yet another case of Leo tripping up on a national stage.

[Archangel1775]

I just watched the CUFBOYS video on YT. They posted a transcript of an officer interviewing her at the hospital. She was non-sensical and essentially states she wasn't paying attention(eating funions on her lap), tailgating even while the F150 is tapping on his brakes and "trying to get into the Dollar Store parking lot".She stated the latter saying it was to avoid hitting the F150.

Then they show the body cam of an officer interviewing the driver of the gold truck, on a later date, who was driving the gold F150. Apparently the body cam didn't activate until after 4 minutes and when it did, the officer is literally telling the man what to write in the report. That's when the F150 driver straight up said it was that ladies fault because she's an idiot. But yeah, that's nuts seeing an officer tell a witness what to write. You would think it would just be a simple "Just write in your own words, what you saw and did" . This officer was telling the man what he did. Haha

All in all, I think the F150 did slow down, per the lawyer to 28 mph, because he saw what was happening ahead but the lady was both inattentive and in a hurry and by the time she saw the F150 had either stopped or pulled over, her dumb arse pulled into oncoming traffic to avoid hitting the F150 or just to get to the dollar general store

[Archangel1775]

After further review, I think this dumb arse women just missed her turn into the Dollar General parking lot and abruptly turned to make it hitting the SUV head on

[Noles939913]

I appreciate Ryan Clark commenting on this during the postgame broadcast with AVP. I have to be honest, I didn't know a thing about the Kyren Lacy situation, as I am not a college football fan, but Clark's comment got my attention.

So now Clark has apologized because it appears Lacy was actually at fault.

[JWBlue]

Can I have the CliffsNotes of this thread?

Did he do it or not?

[Noles939913]

Can I have the CliffsNotes of this thread?

Did he do it or not?

He was doing 88 mph in a 40 mph zone and passed numerous cars in a no passing zone which caused the wreck. So yes. All the pearl clutchers can move on to something else now.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46552190/investigative-report-kyren-lacy-case-finds-inconsistencies-louisiana-state-police-report

[Siberian13]

Can I have the CliffsNotes of this thread?

Did he do it or not?

Seems like he did. So no clue what happened. I see Ryan Clark had to apologize for even saying what he said after that game.

[ninjacookies]

Seems like he did. So no clue what happened. I see Ryan Clark had to apologize for even saying what he said after that game.

Nothing in the case changed.

It's just that Ryan jumped to a public presumption of innocence without any legal basis. Which was foolish given his voice.


Kyren has yet to be shown as guilty or innocent in a court of law. And it may stay that way barring a civil suit brought against his estate or new charges placed on the woman that was allegedly tailgating.