Jalen Hurts charging $400 an auto

[Moss84istheGOAT]

I see Hurts is signing at a show next weekend and looks to be 400 an auto and an extra 150 for an inscription. I mean no disrespect, just curious if philly fans think this ridiculous or normal. I personally think its absurd.

[MasonAsher]

I don't go out to signings but I can't think of a single person I'd pay $400 to sign something as a current player.

[boxbuster7]

you can buy a hurts rc auto for like $200

[hermanotarjeta]

If he lost the Super Bowl, would he be like a $40 auto?

[PuddleMonkey]

On the bright side anyone dumb enough to pay this won't have to wait in line long.

[KingRybo]

All athletes get an appearance fee to show up. The price that you pay is whoever paid them to show ups fee. Foles was $299 last time he signed, and his line was ridiculous.

[PuddleMonkey]

Jalen is no Big Stick Nick.

[Archangel1775]

I see Hurts is signing at a show next weekend and looks to be 400 an auto and an extra 150 for an inscription. I mean no disrespect, just curious if philly fans think this ridiculous or normal. I personally think its absurd.

It's not Hurts charging $400

[SethMurphy]

If you want to know who's going to pay this, I leave this info for you

https://preview.redd.it/philly-hate-week-v0-ky21nh6q3lee1.jpeg

According to federal data, 52% of adults in Philadelphia are functionally illiterate, which means they have difficulty reading and writing. This can impact their ability to: Fill out job applications, Apply for resources, and Help their children become strong readers.
Literacy statistics for Philadelphia:
In 2019, 67.5% of 3rd graders in the School District of Philadelphia scored below proficiency on literacy tests.
17.4% of adult Philadelphians do not have a high school diploma.
67% of Philadelphia adults are low-literate.

[Scottish Punk]

you can buy a hurts rc auto for like $200

This differential is becoming bigger and bigger it seems. I totally get you are paying for the experience of "meeting" them. And what you signed is 100% real. However, it is hard to justify especially if you aren't getting something unique signed.

[jlzinck]

I see Hurts is signing at a show next weekend and looks to be 400 an auto and an extra 150 for an inscription. I mean no disrespect, just curious if philly fans think this ridiculous or normal. I personally think its absurd.

I will type this slowly and with as many monosyllabic words so maybe you can understand.....HURTS is not charging that. He is being paid by whomever is running the signing. THEY are charging that

[jmarascojr]

Josh Allen was "asking" like 299 or something crazy after his rookie season and had a line out the door in Buffalo...

And that was before he did anything semi successful team wise and the MVP...

But to the statement above, yes, it is the show that is charging that, not the athlete.

The athlete's agent negotiates a time frame or a number of autos and a total fee, the show decides how much each auto has to be to make their money back and then some...

[ThunderingHerd]

Well Fanatics is bringing him in, they brought Nick Foles in not too long ago and he was like $299. It's the Fanatics price, once you see their logo next to the athlete picture, just know you are going to pay crazy $$. Even in 2018, you had to pay like $30-$40 for Najee Goode, strike while the iron is hot. How many Super Bowl helmets and Super Bowl footballs will be at that show, Hurts could be the biggest name, although I haven't seen if Barkley is going.

[hugh]

All athletes get an appearance fee to show up. The price that you pay is whoever paid them to show ups fee. Foles was $299 last time he signed, and his line was ridiculous.

Makes no sense because they have no idea how many people will pay for an auto

[slyguy]

If Jalen hurts is 400 then mahomes is 4k minimum?

[7sinVegas7]

Yo! Let the man make his bread.

[asujbl]

If you want to know who's going to pay this, I leave this info for you

https://preview.redd.it/philly-hate-week-v0-ky21nh6q3lee1.jpeg

Damn…

[majestik101]

I'd rather spend that $400 towards eggs

[Jaysabz]

Let's not make this a bash Hurts thread - he signed a deal with Fanatics. He isn't asking a kid who walks up to him on the street to pull out four Benjamins to autograph his jersey.

Most people who go to these events either get items autographed to flip, or are adult collectors who have disposable income.

If you're going to argue that events like these are designed for children, that's certainly not the case. I know first-hand that the Eagles organization, and Jalen Hurts, donate TONS for signed memorabilia to numerous charities in and around Philadelphia for their fund raisers, etc.

These athletes have business managers, the business managers sign the best autograph deal for their clients, and the clients (here, Jalen Hurts) shows up at the event per the instructions of his business manager, and signs or doesn't sign certain items based on the contract they have with Fanatics.

Fanatics is particularly strict about the items being officially licensed by the NFL, and charges via a tiered system - signing a flat 8x10 is cheaper than an 11x17. Why? Don't know.

I think part of it that Fanatics wants to drive private autograph dealers out of the market, and have their website be the place to get autographed memorabilia of your favorite athletes.

[asujbl]

Let's not make this a bash Hurts thread - he signed a deal with Fanatics. He isn't asking a kid who walks up to him on the street to pull out four Benjamins to autograph his jersey.

Most people who go to these events either get items autographed to flip, or are adult collectors who have disposable income.

If you're going to argue that events like these are designed for children, that's certainly not the case. I know first-hand that the Eagles organization, and Jalen Hurts, donate TONS for signed memorabilia to numerous charities in and around Philadelphia for their fund raisers, etc.

These athletes have business managers, the business managers sign the best autograph deal for their clients, and the clients (here, Jalen Hurts) shows up at the event per the instructions of his business manager, and signs or doesn't sign certain items based on the contract they have with Fanatics.

Fanatics is particularly strict about the items being officially licensed by the NFL, and charges via a tiered system - signing a flat 8x10 is cheaper than an 11x17. Why? Don't know.

I think part of it that Fanatics wants to drive private autograph dealers out of the market, and have their website be the place to get autographed memorabilia of your favorite athletes.

Everyone already knows this

No one is hating on your Eagles

[7sinVegas7]

Everyone already knows this

No one is hating on your Eagles

Wrong (as always).

Now, when you say "everyone" you mean just you, right?

Why do you act as if your an elected official representing others in this World?

Did you speak to that black dog ("[URL="https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpost.php?p=19824425&postcount=16) again before typing?

[spend1kget50bac]

I will type this slowly and with as many monosyllabic words so maybe you can understand.....HURTS is not charging that. He is being paid by whomever is running the signing. THEY are charging that

true, but the price set by the dealer/promotor is going to track pretty closely based on his appearance fee charged(and I'm not bashing hurts in the least; take what you can get). That's simply because the promotor is going to charge a price that gets the most total $, and hurts is going to charge a price that gets him the most(so they're going to naturally track)

If Hurts was concerned about how the $400 per looks, he could just accept a lower appearance fee and then stipulate as part of accepting that fee the per signature fee be capped. I wouldn't do that if I were hurts(and I wouldn't have a problem with how it looks), but he has the ability to do so.

[Fenway55]

Yes $400 is a bit pricey but people will line up.

[Jaysabz]

As of 2/22/2025, this is Fanatics' Exclusive Athlete List for NFL / Ex-NFL Players:


Troy Aikman
Braelon Allen
Marcus Allen
Will Anderson Jr
Mark Andrews
Tom Brady
Tim Brown
Joe Burrow
Jack Campbell
James Conner
Kirk Cousins
Maxx Crosby
Jayden Daniels
Cooper DeJean
Emeka Egbuka
Nick Foles
Eddie George
Jahmyr Gibbs
Jared Goff
Dallas Goedert
Breece Hall
Najee Harris
Justin Herbert
Jalen Hurts
Daniel Jones
Dalton Kincaid
Cooper Kupp
CeeDee Lamb
Trevor Lawrence
Will Levis
Marshawn Lynch
Archie Manning
Eli Manning
Peyton Manning
Drake Maye
Christian McCaffrey
Adonai Mitchell
Joe Montana
Luke Musgrave
Malik Nabers
Puka Nacua
Rome Odunze
Cade Otton
Micah Parsons
Brock Purdy
Chop Robinson
Aaron Rodgers
Brenden Rice
Jerry Rice
Anthony Richardson
Ben Roethlisberger
Deebo Samuel
Noah Sewell
Ben Sinnott
Cam Skattebo
Devonta Smith
Jaxon Smith-Njigba
Matthew Stafford
C.J. Stroud
Tua Tagovailoa
Jonathan Taylor
Brian Thomas Jr.
Tristan Wirfs
Jaylen Waddle
Garrett Wilson
Russell Wilson
Caleb Williams
Charles Woodson
Xavier Worthy
Bryce Young

So while Jalen Hurts is hot right now coming off of the Super Bowl victory, and his unframed Super-Bowl related 8x10s (him playing in Super Bowl LIX, him holding the Lombardi Trophy) are $439.99, here's the pricing on plain 8x10s of other Fanatics exclusive QBs, active and retired:

Unframed 8x10:
Brady: $1,599.99
Burrow: $487.49
J. Daniels: $439.99 (Same as Super Bowl LIX MVP Hurts)
Goff: $219.99
E. Manning: $149.99
P. Manning: $224.99
Montana: $224.99
Purdy: $239.99
A. Rodgers: $412.49
Stafford: $149.99
Stroud: $239.99
C. Williams: $217.99 (USC Uniform)
B. Young: $142.49

I'm sure like stock market, prices for active players will increase as they perform better, decrease as they perform worse - and most of these prices are marked down - I guess they're clearing out their 2024-25 products to make room for others. And again, these are just plain Jane 8x10s. They have autographed helmets, footballs, jerseys, framed pictures, you name it. On top of a card monopoly, Fanatics are attempting to be a memorabilia monopoly as well.

https://www.fanaticsauthentic.com/x-714

[asujbl]

Wrong (as always).

Now, when you say "everyone" you mean just you, right?

Why do you act as if your an elected official representing others in this World?

Did you speak to that black dog ("[URL="https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpost.php?p=19824425&postcount=16) again before typing?

If you want to ask me out just do it. Stop following me around

I’m married though

Sorry

[boxbuster7]

who cares if hurts isn't charging that?

it's still a rip off no matter who is

[ZappBrannigan]

Jalen Hurts the Wallet. Topps Now.

[ddearing]

If his price was bothering you, you don’t have to worry about it anymore. All the tickets are now sold out. Supply and demand should set the price. According to this, the price could’ve been higher.

https://phillyshow.com/autograph-guests

[Poorboy]

Well I know how badly he gets paid ….
Probably no endorsement deals rather
Poor guy has to scrape by somehow
In the spirit of the other bo poster I will keep
It simple…
Regardless who is getting the fee his name is associated with it
And it’s a bad look imo
But to each their own

[Fenway55]

Well I know how badly he gets paid ….
Probably no endorsement deals rather
Poor guy has to scrape by somehow
In the spirit of the other bo poster I will keep
It simple…
Regardless who is getting the fee his name is associated with it
And it’s a bad look imo
But to each their own
There’s no “bad look”’ in charging fair market value for a non-essential commodity.

If someone offered you $50 for a card and someone else offered you $100, is it a “bad look” to accept the offer for $100?

[jasonm2121]

Is $400 a lot? Guy has been to 2 Super Bowls in 3 Seasons. A Happy Meal is close to $20 now, and it appears boxes are junk cards are close $1,000.00 each.

[slyguy]

Is $400 a lot? Guy has been to 2 Super Bowls in 3 Seasons. A Happy Meal is close to $20 now, and it appears boxes are junk cards are close $1,000.00 each.I think it is a lot when Jalen Hurts RCs and signed cards (and other signed stuff... helmets, jerseys, etc) aren't popular or selling much in terms of price or volume of sales.

Hurts is no Mahomes or Allen or Burrow - or even Dak - or when it comes to merch sold (https://www.nflshop.com/top-selling-jerseys/x-249520+z-98608802-3043109587). He's not even close, never was. Saquon outsells Hurts handily - both now, even when he was NYG.

I mean, let's get real... Fanatics has DRASTICALLY upped the price of Mohomes' signed stuff (jerseys, helmets, cards, etc)... roughly 3-4x what Hurts ones are. But it's still great value on Pat (and/or bad on Hurts?). In 10 or 20 years, are the Hurts ones worth anything at all? Doubtful. He'll be looked at like McNabb was compared to Brady or Manning.

[Moss84istheGOAT]

Is $400 a lot? Guy has been to 2 Super Bowls in 3 Seasons. A Happy Meal is close to $20 now, and it appears boxes are junk cards are close $1,000.00 each.

I have to change my tune and agree after alot of the post. A 1000.00 playoff box can get you only 50.00 in cards or 400 to get a psa signed auto and meet a superstar isnt looking that insane especially when people are saying its the bullsheet promoters with crazy fees.

[slyguy]

... 400 to get a psa signed auto and meet a superstar...1) It's not a "PSA" auto at these sessions (you still get to send, and pay, PSA/BGS/etc for auth/slab it). It's just a sig on a card at any arranged/event/HOF/etc auto sessions... on a hat, card, jersey, ball, whatever. A sig that you can then enjoy - or can try to convince a buyer is legit auto (and usually buy a $100+ slab to do that). The little foil "witnessed" sticker won't do that; everyone knows those are dime a dozen and many eBay ppl selling "auto" merch and cards and etc ruined that awhile ago. You can buy sticker sheets of fake ones.

2) Is Hurts a superstar? Is he HOF? NFL star, sure.. 2x ProBowl, yes... but superstar? Really? He's not even the biggest star or most known FFB guy on his own NFL team - esp if Barkley had gotten the season rush record.

[Asian62150]

If ppl are buying at those prices, good for him. Make that paper while you can. The Eagles and NFL are cashing in on the SB victory. Why shouldn't the players?

Price was known upfront. He's not pulling something like KAJ.

Don't like it, speak with your wallet and don't pay it.

Btw, is the avg price is a Happy Meal really close to $20 in the US of A? I haven't been to McDs in awhile, but that doesn't seem right.

[Poorboy]

It sure seems like a cash grab to me
Why not reward eagles fans and cut them a break ?
Or at least donate a percentile to charity ?
And I don’t mean fanatic”s wallet lol

[Poorboy]

I guess it’s everywhere
Look at what brady charges
Why?
Ok he is the best all time
Multi millionaire
Why charge so much to those that paid his salary?
It makes no sense
Whose signature is worth 1500 and up today?
Of current or recently retired ?

[Asian62150]

It sure seems like a cash grab to me
Why not reward eagles fans and cut them a break ?
Or at least donate a percentile to charity ?
And I don’t mean fanatic”s wallet lol

Pretty sure all these millionaires are giving away a % to charity. Gotta protect that money somehow.

[packman80]

Aaron Rodgers even more with $650-800 with $230 to add 3 word inscrption. is the MVPs worth the extra up to $400 for a item over Hurts?

[7sinVegas7]

Btw, is the avg price is a Happy Meal really close to $20 in the US of A?

If you get the side of scrambled eggs it is. McOmelet.

[gwgecko]

If ppl are buying at those prices, good for him. Make that paper while you can. The Eagles and NFL are cashing in on the SB victory. Why shouldn't the players?

Price was known upfront. He's not pulling something like KAJ.

Don't like it, speak with your wallet and don't pay it.

Btw, is the avg price is a Happy Meal really close to $20 in the US of A? I haven't been to McDs in awhile, but that doesn't seem right.

The Happy Meals are like $5-6. It's the combo meals people are complaining about being close to $20 in some areas(though that's an exaggeration too-most areas a Big Mac meal is around $10-12)

[gwgecko]

Pretty sure all these millionaires are giving away a % to charity. Gotta protect that money somehow.

Giving money to charity in the US means you don't pay taxes on the money you gave away(if you itemize). It doesn't protect the rest of your money from taxes.

[7sinVegas7]

The Happy Meals are like $5-6.

No self-respecting parent should feed their kids McDonalds. Unhealthiest crap on Earth along with General Mills breakfast cereals. Full of sugar.

[majestik101]

No self-respecting parent should feed their kids McDonalds. Unhealthiest crap on Earth along with General Mills breakfast cereals. Full of sugar.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say you maintained a steady diet of Cookie Crisp and Big Macs during your formative years

[slyguy]

No self-respecting parent should feed their kids McDonalds. Unhealthiest crap on Earth along with General Mills breakfast cereals. Full of sugar.Lol. The problem in America isn't the food... it's the quantities. Cutting gym class out doesn't help a ton either.
The "danger" food talk makes a good shock factor, but people survived millennia eating noting but whatever was able to be locally hunted/foraged (seal fat, elderberries, swine, grasses, etc).
The body can pretty readily convert almost anything we eat to what it needs (fat to carb... carb to fat... protein to anything... except can't make protein, except from other proteins).

Sure it's better to eat fresh and healthy stuff (common sense), but 4000cal is 4000cal.
A lot of the organic and clean food marketing is just price markups; people still can't moderate.
Anything from a Sbux latte to Applebee meal to even most fine dining is just too much food.
Our problem is much more quantity of food/snacks than quality.
That's why Novo stock is making me rich... and cards is a hobby.

...and yeah, as said above, an adult McD's meal is $20USD in *some* areas like downtown Chicago or downtown Miami or maybe at airports, tourist trap areas... but in most, it's not even $10 for adult McMeal or $5 kid meal at the local drive thru. The sky is not falling.

[7sinVegas7]

That's why Novo stock is making me rich...

Good for you lil' man! :)!

Own any defense contractors or gun dealers?

What other vices do you profit from? You sell cigarettes' to kids too?

[slyguy]

Good for you lil' man! :)!

Own any defense contractors or gun dealers?

What other vices do you profit from? You sell cigarettes' to kids too?Lol, wtf are you talking about?

If America (and other places) can't stop eating... you blame the people who come up with the remedy to that (and diabetes) to offer them a better life quality? When they've been doing that over 100 years? Ok.

...but yeah, I'll invest in what makes money. I believe that's the point of investing. Maybe I'm simple. :)

[Jaysabz]

1) It's not a "PSA" auto at these sessions (you still get to send, and pay, PSA/BGS/etc for auth/slab it). It's just a sig on a card at any arranged/event/HOF/etc auto sessions... on a hat, card, jersey, ball, whatever.

Dude he's talking about PSA is on site to put a holo sticker on it with a serial # to authenticate it as an authentic Hurts in-person auto ... nothing to do with grading. :rolleyes:

[Jaysabz]

Hurts is no Mahomes or Allen or Burrow - or even Dak

Very true.

Mahomes is the class of the NFL and has won three Super Bowls. His playoff record is 17-4.

Hurts has been to two Super Bowls... first one he lost by 3 in a game he threw for over 300 yards and had 4 total TDs; second one he won in a blowout where the backups were put in against a Chiefs team that was playing to Three-Peat.

Records he set:

Most total touchdowns in a quarterback's first two Super Bowl starts (seven).

Sixth player all-time with 3+ total touchdowns in multiple Super Bowls.

Second quarterback with a 70% completion rate and 3+ total touchdowns in multiple Super Bowls (Tom Brady is the other).

Most rushing yards by a quarterback in Super Bowl history (72), breaking his own record of 70 in Super Bowl LVII . Hurts has the two highest single-game rushing yardage totals by a quarterback in Super Bowl history.

Fourth quarterback to win Super Bowl after losing first Super Bowl start (Len Dawson, Bob Griese, John Elway).

Third quarterback to start and win a college football national championship and a Super Bowl (Joe Namath, Joe Montana).

First quarterback to defeat Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs not named Joe Burrow or Tom Brady. Mahomes was previously 15-0 against quarterbacks not named Burrow or Brady.

First quarterback to win Super Bowl drafted after Patrick Mahomes (2018 or later).

Has a playoff record is 6-3 and the Eagles have made the playoffs every year he's been the full season starter.

Allen has never been to a Super Bowl. His playoff record is 7-6 and he's 0-2 in AFC Championship Games.

Burrow has been to the Super Bowl once and lost. His playoff record is 5-2.

Dak has never been to a Super Bowl or an NFC Championship game. His playoff record is 2-5.

[Moss84istheGOAT]

Very true.

Mahomes is the class of the NFL and has won three Super Bowls. His playoff record is 17-4.

Hurts has been to two Super Bowls... first one he lost by 3 in a game he threw for over 300 yards and had 4 total TDs; second one he won in a blowout where the backups were put in against a Chiefs team that was playing to Three-Peat.

Records he set:

Most total touchdowns in a quarterback's first two Super Bowl starts (seven).

Sixth player all-time with 3+ total touchdowns in multiple Super Bowls.

Second quarterback with a 70% completion rate and 3+ total touchdowns in multiple Super Bowls (Tom Brady is the other).

Most rushing yards by a quarterback in Super Bowl history (72), breaking his own record of 70 in Super Bowl LVII . Hurts has the two highest single-game rushing yardage totals by a quarterback in Super Bowl history.

Fourth quarterback to win Super Bowl after losing first Super Bowl start (Len Dawson, Bob Griese, John Elway).

Third quarterback to start and win a college football national championship and a Super Bowl (Joe Namath, Joe Montana).

First quarterback to defeat Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs not named Joe Burrow or Tom Brady. Mahomes was previously 15-0 against quarterbacks not named Burrow or Brady.

First quarterback to win Super Bowl drafted after Patrick Mahomes (2018 or later).

Has a playoff record is 6-3 and the Eagles have made the playoffs every year he's been the full season starter.

Allen has never been to a Super Bowl. His playoff record is 7-6 and he's 0-2 in AFC Championship Games.

Burrow has been to the Super Bowl once and lost. His playoff record is 5-2.

Dak has never been to a Super Bowl or an NFC Championship game. His playoff record is 2-5.



sly, i think he just clammed us both up :D

[slyguy]

...Hurts has been to two Super Bowls..

...Most rushing yards by a quarterback in Super Bowl history...Great.

How does that change the fact he's not top 10 in card values, jerseys sold, anything in terms of overall merch sales?

Hurts is simply not a popular player.
He is not even the most popular Eagles player.
Usually the auto prices are dictated by popularity. Card prices obviously are.
I'd think that's common sense, but perhaps not.

We all appreciate your Iggle homer opinion and hope you enjoy the moment in the sun. I do... through and through. I bet on them (and KC, and Buf) at start of playoffs.
But all of that does not change merchandise sales ranks, which you clearly clip out when "quoting." The stats are the stats.

I am not going to start claiming Justin Jefferson is amazing and should be a top value auto player because I'm a Viking fan (although JJ's merch, like many, also outsells Jalen Hurts).
Values on cards, merch, etc are dictated by the market for the player. It's pretty black and white on that one, sir.

[LondonGames]

Well I know how badly he gets paid ….
Probably no endorsement deals rather
Poor guy has to scrape by somehow
In the spirit of the other bo poster I will keep
It simple…
Regardless who is getting the fee his name is associated with it
And it’s a bad look imo
But to each their own

idiotic posts like this. 1180 posts in under 3 months on the site..

hard to spot the PBMs from this far away.

[PuddleMonkey]

Randall Cunningham was more fun.

[majestik101]

Spotting PBMs within the first 1,180 posts:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExYzljY205dm5pODUyanZudDN6cnpsa3U4N3JzdTFlaHVwdnc3NjBtYSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/L3ERvA6jWCd0qO4NdX/giphy.gif

[Poorboy]

idiotic posts like this. 1180 posts in under 3 months on the site..

hard to spot the PBMs from this far away.

It is called sarcasm or an attempt at it
No need to attack me personally sir
Why are you being so mean ?
No clue what a pbm is …..
I have to ask why pick on me ?
I don’t recall bieng nasty or mean to you sir .
So again I ask …..
Why ? Does it make you feel good to be cruel ?

[Poorboy]

Spotting PBMs within the first 1,180 posts:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExYzljY205dm5pODUyanZudDN6cnpsa3U4N3JzdTFlaHVwdnc3NjBtYSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/L3ERvA6jWCd0qO4NdX/giphy.gif

No clue what a pbm is sir
I guess you and the London guy are related somehow ?

[Jaysabz]

Hurts is no Mahomes or Allen or Burrow - or even Dak - or when it comes to merch sold (https://www.nflshop.com/top-selling-jerseys/x-249520+z-98608802-3043109587).

I was responding to the first part of your argument, that Hurts is "no Mahomes or Allen or Burrow - or even Dak..."

The second part of that sentence had an OR -

You said " - or even when it comes to merch sold."

You're right, I didn't address merch sold, because in what world does merch sold mean anything? They hand out Lombardi Trophies for merch sales?

And by the way, you're not even correct on merch numbers: This article from Bleacher Report dated February 4, 2025 has the list of top sellers for the 2024-25 season as follows:

1. Christian McCaffrey, San Francisco 49ers
2. Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs
3. Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles
4. Micah Parsons, Dallas Cowboys
5. Tyreek Hill, Miami Dolphins
6. C.J. Stroud, Houston Texans
7. Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens
8. Justin Jefferson, Minnesota Vikings
9. T.J. Watt, Pittsburgh Steelers
10. Brock Purdy, San Francisco 49ers

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10153201-mccaffrey-mahomes-hurts-parsons-lead-top-10-nfl-jersey-sales-in-2024-25-season

The list you linked were the top selling jerseys from April 1, 2024 - October 31, 2024. So your list was from about three weeks before the 2024 draft through Week 8 of the 2024 season. Aiden Hutchinson was the 4th best seller on your list, and his injury was traumatic and tragic (breaking his tibia and fibula in his left leg in on October 13, 2024) but also highlights how your list only went through Week 8 of this past season, as his jersey sales dropped off after the injury.

And BTW I don't see Allen, Burrow or Dak outselling Hurts on that list - so now you're reduced to the argument that Hurts' card prices are lower... can't argue with that. He doesn't get hobby love.

Justin Herbert outsells Hurts all day every day. Herbert is also 0-2 in the playoffs, with 2TD and 4INT in those two appearances. But with people do with their money is their business, I'm here posting facts.

Call it what you want, Jalen Hurts is a winner, and he proved it on the biggest stage possible this year, redeeming himself after his 4TD performance in Super Bowl LVII fell short vs. KC by being a major contributor to the blowout of KC in Super Bowl LIX.

[Fenway55]

Hurts succeeded where Allen, Jackson, Prescott, Burrow, Purdy and Herbert have all (thus far) failed. He is about 7 months from being the only (starting) QB in his 20's to have won a Super Bowl.

He is a winner, and he proved it. I don't give 2 craps about the Eagles but you have to tip you cap and recognize greatness when you see it.

[Grid]

I see Hurts is signing at a show next weekend and looks to be 400 an auto and an extra 150 for an inscription. I mean no disrespect, just curious if philly fans think this ridiculous or normal. I personally think its absurd.

$400 only gets you his auto on something small. You want him to sign your helmet or football? That would be $450.

And the inscription is actually $200, not $150. And he will only add SB LIX MVP. Nothing else or anything different.

https://phillyshow.com/autograph-guest/hurts-jalen/

Not sure why anyone would think this is absurd. Dude makes $50MIL a year playing football. For him to get out of bed and do a signing, it takes a lot ($) of incentive. Same with any big current players.

Like someone already said, Hurts is sold out, even at those "absurd" prices. Sounds to me, like Fanatics actually left money on the table. They could have sold them for more.

[asujbl]

Hurts succeeded where Allen, Jackson, Prescott, Burrow, Purdy and Herbert have all (thus far) failed. He is about 7 months from being the only (starting) QB in his 20's to have won a Super Bowl.

He is a winner, and he proved it. I don't give 2 craps about the Eagles but you have to tip you cap and recognize greatness when you see it.

I know… and he isn’t great

The Eagles are a great team though. Especially that front 7

He’s good though. I will tip my cap to that

[jasonm2121]

I think it is a lot when Jalen Hurts RCs and signed cards (and other signed stuff... helmets, jerseys, etc) aren't popular or selling much in terms of price or volume of sales.

Hurts is no Mahomes or Allen or Burrow - or even Dak - or when it comes to merch sold (https://www.nflshop.com/top-selling-jerseys/x-249520+z-98608802-3043109587). He's not even close, never was. Saquon outsells Hurts handily - both now, even when he was NYG.

I mean, let's get real... Fanatics has DRASTICALLY upped the price of Mohomes' signed stuff (jerseys, helmets, cards, etc)... roughly 3-4x what Hurts ones are. But it's still great value on Pat (and/or bad on Hurts?). In 10 or 20 years, are the Hurts ones worth anything at all? Doubtful. He'll be looked at like McNabb was compared to Brady or Manning.

I do not think anyone is saying he is Mahomes, but I am pretty sure Mahomes costs a lot more. I just do not see $400 being an outrageous figure to pay in 2025 for an autograph. This price could seem cheap in a few years if he continues to perform.

[49erRCCollector]

He did just win a SB, yeah. Hurts/People cashing in.

[Grid]

Pricing for modern QB that either just happened, or will happen soon. None of these prices include meeting them, like with Hurts. It is what it is.

Josh Allen send in for March:
24 NFL MVP QB1 Josh Allen Private Signing!
$430 flats up to 16x20/minis
$450 premium(helmets, jerseys, cards, etc.)
$250 inscription(24 NFL MVP only)
Inscriptions are limited, first come first serve!

The next Herbert send in:
https://scontent-ord5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/480411547_3470483419913624_6695976389139799423_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s600x600_tt6&_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=pSvQNHQWChcQ7kNvgFPylCX&_nc_oc=AdggsC7Bn1p-5-Vgz1JXgjMdGW3M0BEkV827GxvIjrod257wPbvqaATDXtua7nYUjes&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-ord5-2.xx&_nc_gid=Alb4Bo1Nl7EVMeFIs1UP8xi&oh=00_AYBxX2sh9ULRq2yAFB__TEMTGRHawk3T7RR1hyp9cm02FQ&oe=67C269C1

Baker Mayfield Private Signing:
$179 flats up to 16x20/minis
$189 premium
$199 Custom Helmets
$85 inscription (1 per item)
**Cards are Premium - $189 per**

Bo Nix private signing:
$160 flats up to 16x20/minis
$180 premium(anything other than photos up to 16x20 and mini’s)
$70 inscription(1 inscription per item, 3 word limit)

QB Michael Penix Jr. private signing:
$130 flats up to 16x20/minis
$150 premium(anything other than photos up to 16x20 and mini’s)
$70 inscriptions

[BlowoutBuzz]

Win a Super Bowl, get a pay raise.

[JeremyNick]

I know… and he isn’t great

The Eagles are a great team though. Especially that front 7

He’s good though. I will tip my cap to that

No, he’s great.

You don’t get to two SBs, win one and perform well in both and not be called great.

That’s dumb.

[asujbl]

No, he’s great.

You don’t get to two SBs, win one and perform well in both and not be called great.

That’s dumb.

Whatever you say

Hurts isn't great. He's just good

You're smarter than this but I know you're just stirring the pot

[JeremyNick]

Whatever you say

Hurts isn't great. He's just good

You're smarter than this but I know you're just stirring the pot

He’s great.

No cap.

[daveyc1]

an autograph is a luxury item.

no one is being forced to purchase said item.

the prices are wholly dependent on demand. If people stop paying, they will lower. I read earlier in the thread they are sold out. so it sounds like $400 is a bit too low.

Good for Jalen for getting such a good price. I have never understood the complaining over auto prices. Pay up, or dont.

[Asian62150]

$400 only gets you his auto on something small. You want him to sign your helmet or football? That would be $450.

And the inscription is actually $200, not $150. And he will only add SB LIX MVP. Nothing else or anything different.

https://phillyshow.com/autograph-guest/hurts-jalen/

Not sure why anyone would think this is absurd. Dude makes $50MIL a year playing football. For him to get out of bed and do a signing, it takes a lot ($) of incentive. Same with any big current players.

Like someone already said, Hurts is sold out, even at those "absurd" prices. Sounds to me, like Fanatics actually left money on the table. They could have sold them for more.

Originally I thought maybe they left some meat on the bone because they sold out. But I was thinking maybe it was priced just about right. How long did the tickets last until they sold out? I think if they sold out anywhere from 4-24 hrs, then they were priced just about right.

Ideally you want everyone that wants a ticket (outside of price) to be able to get one. But you don't want tickets sitting there for days. That's also a bad look.

[JosieD]

If you want to know who's going to pay this, I leave this info for you

https://preview.redd.it/philly-hate-week-v0-ky21nh6q3lee1.jpeg

Too many big words.


People pay just as much for those cameo things. I would send the $400 to St Jude instead if I had it.

[Grid]

Originally I thought maybe they left some meat on the bone because they sold out. But I was thinking maybe it was priced just about right. How long did the tickets last until they sold out? I think if they sold out anywhere from 4-24 hrs, then they were priced just about right.

Ideally you want everyone that wants a ticket (outside of price) to be able to get one. But you don't want tickets sitting there for days. That's also a bad look.

I cant say how long it took to sell out. But if you have ever bought autos at a card show, you'd know that most players don't sell out. So I wouldn't say it would be a bad look, if that didn't happen. As it rarely does happen.

Now Fanatics does limit how many tickets get sold to the public. Unlike a normal promoter, who would let a player sign until their arm falls off. But all levels of Hurts sold out.

[Asian62150]

true, but the price set by the dealer/promotor is going to track pretty closely based on his appearance fee charged(and I'm not bashing hurts in the least; take what you can get). That's simply because the promotor is going to charge a price that gets the most total $, and hurts is going to charge a price that gets him the most(so they're going to naturally track)

If Hurts was concerned about how the $400 per looks, he could just accept a lower appearance fee and then stipulate as part of accepting that fee the per signature fee be capped. I wouldn't do that if I were hurts(and I wouldn't have a problem with how it looks), but he has the ability to do so.

If Hurts was really concerned, couldn't he just sign autographs for free? I think some athletes have stipulations where they can't sign autographs (Kris Bryant and Caleb Williams come to mind for some reason). Or the athletes have to sign a different way if they sign for free. I remember Bryant signed "KB" with a smiley face when he signed for ppl at Wrigley.

But if Jalen wanted to give some kind of autograph to the ppl for free, he could.

If he wants to do it for gobs of money, go for it. As someone who makes their living playing a violent sport, go make your money while you can.

[boxbuster7]

Even Eagles fans think Hurts is mediocre

Thats when you know it is bad

[mjekase]

Even Eagles fans think Hurts is mediocre

Thats when you know it is bad

Who thinks he's "mediocre"?
And when what is bad?

[boxbuster7]

Who thinks he's "mediocre"?
And when what is bad?

Lets just say theres a nice #$% hurts rookie sitting for $2k on ebay...the market doesn't respect him. And theres a reason why.

[Grid]

If Hurts was really concerned, couldn't he just sign autographs for free? I think some athletes have stipulations where they can't sign autographs (Kris Bryant and Caleb Williams come to mind for some reason). Or the athletes have to sign a different way if they sign for free. I remember Bryant signed "KB" with a smiley face when he signed for ppl at Wrigley.

But if Jalen wanted to give some kind of autograph to the ppl for free, he could.

If he wants to do it for gobs of money, go for it. As someone who makes their living playing a violent sport, go make your money while you can.

Fanatics sets the rules and the pricing. Hurts has no say in what they are charging for his signature. If anything, these exclusive players have very specific terms they already agreed to. How many signings, over how many years. And which (if any) of those will be public or not.

Fanatics can and will up charge for a "hot" player. Like one that just won SB MVP. That allows them to offset some of the money they sunk in to other players, that they made exclusive and they didn't pan out.

For some unknown reason, they gave Noah Sewell a bunch of money to be exclusive back in 2023. He was a 5th round pick by the Bears, and never cracked the starting lineup. Their website is littered in his signed stuff. And as a promoter, we have been offered him as a guest at shows for peanuts.

You win some, you lose some, when you hand out exclusives.

[Asian62150]

Fanatics sets the rules and the pricing. Hurts has no say in what they are charging for his signature. If anything, these exclusive players have very specific terms they already agreed to. How many signings, over how many years. And which (if any) of those will be public or not.

Fanatics can and will up charge for a "hot" player. Like one that just won SB MVP. That allows them to offset some of the money they sunk in to other players, that they made exclusive and they didn't pan out.

For some unknown reason, they gave Noah Sewell a bunch of money to be exclusive back in 2023. He was a 5th round pick by the Bears, and never cracked the starting lineup. Their website is littered in his signed stuff. And as a promoter, we have been offered him as a guest at shows for peanuts.

You win some, you lose some, when you hand out exclusives.

Yeah, but can't Jalen just say "I'm signing autographs for free at my house. Everyone come on over!" if he wanted to?

Or would his contract prevent things like that?

[Jaysabz]

Yeah, but can't Jalen just say "I'm signing autographs for free at my house. Everyone come on over!" if he wanted to?

Or would his contract prevent things like that?

I would imagine his exclusivity contract with Fanatics would prevent that. He's a Fanatics-exclusive athlete for private and public signings of sports memorabilia.

However, I would have to imagine that any agent worth their salt would put an "incidental" clause in there that stated he is permitted to sign autographs without remuneration for fans (especially kids) from time to time, whether it be outside of practice, at a hospital, at the practice facility, or in the stadium / on the sidelines. Not for money, and not in mass.

Fanatics is primarily concerned with him signing photos, plaques, footballs, jerseys, mini helmets and helmets - sports memorabilia. They're locking up a monopoly on the sports card market, so why not lock up a monopoly in the sports memorabilia market as well.

[mjekase]

Lets just say theres a nice #$% hurts rookie sitting for $2k on ebay...the market doesn't respect him. And theres a reason why.

Oh. So a card not selling means Eagles fans think he’s mediocre. Cool.

[Jaysabz]

Lets just say theres a nice #$% hurts rookie sitting for $2k on ebay...the market doesn't respect him. And theres a reason why.

Is it this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/396160004560?_skw=jalen+hurts+rookie&epid=5055587310&itmmeta=01JMX59HVAF1HQ3Y10WMHKNKWZ&hash=item5c3cf9f1d0:g:OSYAAOSwIiVnmlFF&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1fCqR70BC%2FBa91rrHEOcgxosz7BPsffxnc1tM7mlNTBpwID%2FysLcRbX7pmslkrTJMoU5I5cqgHveq0oBeIqv7zAeWauOUfN0ZiHf6dkbVOdNwrKSBO1VwyauBX7blXP%2FyXzM2AeRUfrejZ3%2BJM9XIVyCTdZgqNLYHkKHaL7knRm6QXbbjq4WHQgsWq1FXYR9WLqCGo3JQrVsJ9%2BdPbXUdQthtG9PlXOm51PpDeDVsdqjXuCfzB4WNfSprMsPkkCnNottagVJV%2FKCtgbFpvIa5jU8cadDaadyl1Eesq9lsYbaw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_KdpqWnZQ

Cause if it is the sig is all muffed up. PSA 10 sure, but crap eye appeal. If that's not what you're referring to, please let us know what you are referring to, because all these ungraded rookie cards for sale for a few thousand "raw" I'm sure were thoroughly examined and there's a reason they're not graded. They weren't pack pulled yesterday and listed immediately. They've been examined under a loupe dozens of times each I'm sure.

[Fenway55]

Yeah, but can't Jalen just say "I'm signing autographs for free at my house. Everyone come on over!" if he wanted to?

Or would his contract prevent things like that?We have no idea what his contract says, so the above cannot really be answered.

[slyguy]

Even Eagles fans think Hurts is mediocre

Thats when you know it is bad
Who thinks he's "mediocre"?
And when what is bad?I said it already:

Saquon Barkley outsells Hurts (https://www.fanatics.com/best-selling-jerseys/x-169279+z-93820000-2061647579).
Jalen's not even the most popular on his own team.
Fine player in real NFL terms, getting wins... not for cards, merch, etc.

That post above where you can get Josh Allen auto for same price as Jalen Hurts tells you all you need to know. Josh is one of the most popular dudes in NFL, high in merch sales, highest volume/price cards, etc... Hurts is not even close, he is grossly overpriced. But again, he doesn't set prices... they're trying to blow that SBowl whistle while they can.

[boxbuster7]

Is it this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/396160004560?_skw=jalen+hurts+rookie&epid=5055587310&itmmeta=01JMX59HVAF1HQ3Y10WMHKNKWZ&hash=item5c3cf9f1d0:g:OSYAAOSwIiVnmlFF&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1fCqR70BC%2FBa91rrHEOcgxosz7BPsffxnc1tM7mlNTBpwID%2FysLcRbX7pmslkrTJMoU5I5cqgHveq0oBeIqv7zAeWauOUfN0ZiHf6dkbVOdNwrKSBO1VwyauBX7blXP%2FyXzM2AeRUfrejZ3%2BJM9XIVyCTdZgqNLYHkKHaL7knRm6QXbbjq4WHQgsWq1FXYR9WLqCGo3JQrVsJ9%2BdPbXUdQthtG9PlXOm51PpDeDVsdqjXuCfzB4WNfSprMsPkkCnNottagVJV%2FKCtgbFpvIa5jU8cadDaadyl1Eesq9lsYbaw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_KdpqWnZQ

Cause if it is the sig is all muffed up. PSA 10 sure, but crap eye appeal. If that's not what you're referring to, please let us know what you are referring to, because all these ungraded rookie cards for sale for a few thousand "raw" I'm sure were thoroughly examined and there's a reason they're not graded. They weren't pack pulled yesterday and listed immediately. They've been examined under a loupe dozens of times each I'm sure.

no that is not it...

it is this card

https://www.ebay.com/itm/167336351332

[Archangel1775]

I said it already:

Saquon Barkley outsells Hurts (https://www.fanatics.com/best-selling-jerseys/x-169279+z-93820000-2061647579).
Jalen's not even the most popular on his own team.
Fine player in real NFL terms, getting wins... not for cards, merch, etc.

That post above where you can get Josh Allen auto for same price as Jalen Hurts tells you all you need to know. Josh is one of the most popular dudes in NFL, high in merch sales, highest volume/price cards, etc... Hurts is not even close, he is grossly overpriced. But again, he doesn't set prices... they're trying to blow that SBowl whistle while they can.

That's pretty damn important for a QB

[mjekase]

no that is not it...

it is this card

https://www.ebay.com/itm/167336351332

It's gone.

[Delta5]

If Jalen hurts is 400 then mahomes is 4k minimum?

Hurts just dumpstered Mahomes in SB. With that logic Hurts is 8k? Enjoy gulag by the way

[jasonm2121]

Hurts just dumpstered Mahomes in SB. With that logic Hurts is 8k? Enjoy gulag by the way

hahahaahaha, gold

People that do not think Hurts is good are insane. What does he have to do to get some respect? Win some big games on BS flags like others?

[Delta5]

hahahaahaha, gold

People that do not think Hurts is good are insane. What does he have to do to get some respect? Win some big games on BS flags like others?

Hurts would've been 2-0 Mahomes if not for that BS flag. He outplayed mahomes on both games

[jasonm2121]

Hurts would've been 2-0 Mahomes if not for that BS flag. He outplayed mahomes on both games

100% Hence my confusion from so many still saying he is not that good, makes no sense.

[no10pin]

no that is not it...

it is this card

https://www.ebay.com/itm/167336351332

That's an auction with 5 days to go.

[Jaysabz]

I said it already:

Saquon Barkley outsells Hurts (https://www.fanatics.com/best-selling-jerseys/x-169279+z-93820000-2061647579).
Jalen's not even the most popular on his own team.

What is your major malfunction? Everything you have posted in this thread I've disproven. Loved your take that Hurts wasn't even up there with Dak, Dak never having been to an NFC Championship game, let alone a Super Bowl, and holding a playoff record is 2-5.

You then went on some tangent about Hurts doesn't even sell that much merch, that Saquon sold more (fans have had four years to buy Hurts jerseys, one to buy Saquon).

Jerseys arent disposable, they generally last more than one season. Don't need to re-buy a Hurts jersey every year.

And the link you posted at first was for April-November 2024 and then the one you just posted now was for Fanatics jersey sales for September 1, 2024-November 3, 2024.
So no clue what you're doing there. If you look at the 2024-25 season jersey sales, Hurts was #3 overall. Playoff run and Super Bowl MVP might have spiked that number up.

Someone else click his link and read what it says, and back me up that his links are for jersey sales for whacky date ranges. Came strolling into these boards like he's the boss and dude talks out his tuchus constantly.

Still not getting why you're putting so much emphasis on merch anyhow, what does it matter? Do they throw ticker tape parades for merch sales?

I look forward to something that resembles a coherent response once your temporary suspension is over. (For those reading this, I had no part in that, just saw it next to his name when I checked this thread tonight).

[Grid]

Yeah, but can't Jalen just say "I'm signing autographs for free at my house. Everyone come on over!" if he wanted to?

Or would his contract prevent things like that?

Not if his contract is like most others with an exclusive. There is usually a "Jerry Maguire" clause though. That allows players to sign for fans, kids and charities. But tyoically prohibits them from giving a "Full Signature".

Just speaking for players I know. Caleb Williams is exclusive to fanatics. And when he signs for kids or even his own charity, you just get C18, maybe C in a circle or at best, CW18. Brian Urlacher will just sign the letter B, as an example.

That way they don't look like jerks by refusing on the street. Yet those slop signatures add very little value. So if you want their "real" signature, you gotta pay.

[nbahobbyaddict]

Wrong (as always).

Now, when you say "everyone" you mean just you, right?

Why do you act as if your an elected official representing others in this World?

Did you speak to that black dog ("[URL="https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpost.php?p=19824425&postcount=16) again before typing?

Lollllllll

[jmarascojr]

His market is very weird, at least to me, I'll use my own card for an example and maybe I can get a little knowledge.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/167336351332

A Herbert from the same year, booklet to /10, went for $1800 in December and a Joe Burrow just went for $3200 in February...

I would think my price is fair for a QB that just won the Super Bowl based on those two comps, but I must be off as I've only received one offer on it since I listed it...

[boxbuster7]

His market is very weird, at least to me, I'll use my own card for an example and maybe I can get a little knowledge.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/167336351332

A Herbert from the same year, booklet to /10, went for $1800 in December and a Joe Burrow just went for $3200 in February...

I would think my price is fair for a QB that just won the Super Bowl based on those two comps, but I must be off as I've only received one offer on it since I listed it...

Your card is the one I posted :p

[no10pin]

I'm really confused. That is an auction with 5 days to go, and offers are not turned on. If I was in the market for that card, I wouldn't message you, I'd place a snipe bid.

I don't know the Hurts market well enough to comment one way or the other, but I don't understand why that particular card not having a bid yet or no one messaging offers means anything.

[boxbuster7]

Its been listed like 3+ times since the super bowl

[no10pin]

Its been listed like 3+ times since the super bowl

OK that makes more sense then.

His market is very weird, at least to me, I'll use my own card for an example and maybe I can get a little knowledge.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/167336351332

A Herbert from the same year, booklet to /10, went for $1800 in December and a Joe Burrow just went for $3200 in February...

I would think my price is fair for a QB that just won the Super Bowl based on those two comps, but I must be off as I've only received one offer on it since I listed it...

Personally I would list it as a fixed price if you are looking for offers.

[boxbuster7]

prob a good idea ^

[Jaysabz]

His market is very weird, at least to me, I'll use my own card for an example and maybe I can get a little knowledge.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/167336351332

A Herbert from the same year, booklet to /10, went for $1800 in December and a Joe Burrow just went for $3200 in February...

I would think my price is fair for a QB that just won the Super Bowl based on those two comps, but I must be off as I've only received one offer on it since I listed it...

That link isn't working for me - says item not found.

[Jaysabz]

That link isn't working for me - says item not found.

Nm found it through your eBay name next to your Avatar...

[Jaysabz]

His market is very weird, at least to me, I'll use my own card for an example and maybe I can get a little knowledge.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/167336351332

A Herbert from the same year, booklet to /10, went for $1800 in December and a Joe Burrow just went for $3200 in February...

I would think my price is fair for a QB that just won the Super Bowl based on those two comps, but I must be off as I've only received one offer on it since I listed it...

Here are some reasons I can speculate why you haven't had bites on the card:

It's a Flawless /10 Jalen Hurts rookie booklet.

1. It was not encased by Panini with a Panini sticker. Therefore, it's not uncirculated, so you've likely examined the card and found some reason not to have it graded.

Any time I see a Flawless, NT, Immac, or Impeccable Rookie RPA being sold "Raw," my immediate assumption is that it's been examined by the seller and they don't think it will grade 9 or better. I have a few Hurts Immac and NT cards I got in group breaks buying the Eagles (they were relatively cheap that year, as Jalen was a 2nd rounder and Wentz was the undisputed starter) that I've never sent off to grade b/c of surface issues that scanners wouldn't pick up - but made me think they'd likely grade a 7 or 8 at best. I sent most to COMC - whose job it is to examine the card and if not NM/M in their opinion, they are supposed to make notes. No buyer returns on COMC either.

2. You are only offering it as an auction with a starting bid of $2,199.99. No BIN, no OBO. High starting point given #1 and #3 below.

3. The patch is a "not associated" patch. That's all fine b/c most from that time period aren't associated with any player, game, etc. However, the patch on your card is part of the number 8 and Jalen Hurts hasn't ever worn #8. He wore #2 as a rookie then switched to #1.

I'd say lower the starting bid price to $499 and add a reserve or list it for $3k OBO if you're trying to get $2500 or so out of it.

It's a beautiful card, I'll give you free advertising by posting a pic, but those are the reasons why I think you're experiencing what you're experiencing.

[boxbuster7]

I mean what is a flawless box like 10k?

If a super bowl mvp winning QB booklet /10 can't even hit 2k what are we doing?

[Crosby 87]

Here are some reasons I can speculate why you haven't had bites on the card:

It's a Flawless /10 Jalen Hurts rookie booklet.

1. It was not encased by Panini with a Panini sticker. Therefore, it's not uncirculated, so you've likely examined the card and found some reason not to have it graded.

Any time I see a Flawless, NT, Immac, or Impeccable Rookie RPA being sold "Raw," my immediate assumption is that it's been examined by the seller and they don't think it will grade 9 or better.

.

Not everyone wants everything graded.

[boxbuster7]

There is a simple answer but if y'all want to complete in the mental gymnastics olympics go ahead

[blackbears86]

There is a simple answer but if y'all want to complete in the mental gymnastics olympics go ahead



I'll add to the "mental gymnastics". I don't like or bid on booklet cards. (though the card is beautiful)


While Hurts auto's certainly don't bring the value of Patty (as they shouldn't) The Hurts cards I've been bidding on the last two weeks have gone for surprisingly high numbers.

[Jaysabz]

Not everyone wants everything graded.

Absolutely fair point. But in this day & age, raw 5-year-old rookie cards to throw up some potential red flags as to condition.

[Jaysabz]

I mean what is a flawless box like 10k?

If a super bowl mvp winning QB booklet /10 can't even hit 2k what are we doing?

1. It's raw.
2. It's a booklet.
3. The patch is a part of the number 8. Hurts has nothing to do with the number 8.

Similar booklet card /10 went for $1,850 in a BGS 8.5:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/197023764406?_skw=hurts+rookie+flawless&itmmeta=01JMZFJSWGC7W94KFQWHGPTRTK&hash=item2ddf880fb6:g:uaoAAeSwZFpnsLX6&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1f9ehyIi%2BPAocvF38Hx9H8Bxz9AoPZTR8r6TYK6JF3hTOJObw7hyb5qOdgbkiNmeF16GVwa3mU9czfAsgm%2BcJMeJNWJYRPVCFDs3GxVeclf927B9CopdZurdOiymkw2elua75khN8882k4m1qgC85TY5opV1xliSOwzGbymDoIp82uhEBMyUuCo0R0Cr1lBPHGc6b3%2FI3MqvENjmRWZYL1Hk5txG8nEBu08xA09HduT%2FvoWrb0tPbcGab9rfAzakQSBvJGe%2BZiq%2FCrlVymV7KsUUkP1q3DydV7%2FxLGWbCsNIA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7yey--nZQ

Same card but 1/1 NFL Shield Booklet just went for $14,900. However, that card was encased by Panini:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126933929099?_skw=hurts+rookie+flawless&epid=7061027860&itmmeta=01JMZFJSWHS89HDH5GVSQ2D9N9&hash=item1d8dda0c8b:g:l0cAAeSw8u9nqmXD&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1dKmConU9iRw8l%2B%2Fi9ZxXI961Tppai%2B%2B24pFZZdPDecdDVUplu6743E95EQ4Zca331M6Mxhjn6JbkLoiclTQ1Cxc%2BoPH6gBqtLTsFRLuaeA8VJbIqYef6iQZuVCf3r%2B3BGJnitfRny6Z%2FcGdgbtGf9HnaqBdAwW2u4836Pi1CYlxL%2F6uIFavHWwLFZRQ0b1nI8PbMH3b4ETqoOF8dg6jrfaBvxEUApfKqy%2BLjEcs2AuAevjzDdgvULmKMeEAjwnJhrX4vBjntYhxH3PrgiEoQn5I0aRudv5CIhpYw0yvmuBdg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8Cey--nZQ

[majestik101]

1. It's raw.
2. It's a booklet.
3. The patch is a part of the number 8. Hurts has nothing to do with the number 8.

Similar booklet card /10 went for $1,850 in a BGS 8.5:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/197023764406?_skw=hurts+rookie+flawless&itmmeta=01JMZFJSWGC7W94KFQWHGPTRTK&hash=item2ddf880fb6:g:uaoAAeSwZFpnsLX6&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1f9ehyIi%2BPAocvF38Hx9H8Bxz9AoPZTR8r6TYK6JF3hTOJObw7hyb5qOdgbkiNmeF16GVwa3mU9czfAsgm%2BcJMeJNWJYRPVCFDs3GxVeclf927B9CopdZurdOiymkw2elua75khN8882k4m1qgC85TY5opV1xliSOwzGbymDoIp82uhEBMyUuCo0R0Cr1lBPHGc6b3%2FI3MqvENjmRWZYL1Hk5txG8nEBu08xA09HduT%2FvoWrb0tPbcGab9rfAzakQSBvJGe%2BZiq%2FCrlVymV7KsUUkP1q3DydV7%2FxLGWbCsNIA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7yey--nZQ

Same card but 1/1 NFL Shield Booklet just went for $14,900. However, that card was encased by Panini:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/126933929099?_skw=hurts+rookie+flawless&epid=7061027860&itmmeta=01JMZFJSWHS89HDH5GVSQ2D9N9&hash=item1d8dda0c8b:g:l0cAAeSw8u9nqmXD&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1dKmConU9iRw8l%2B%2Fi9ZxXI961Tppai%2B%2B24pFZZdPDecdDVUplu6743E95EQ4Zca331M6Mxhjn6JbkLoiclTQ1Cxc%2BoPH6gBqtLTsFRLuaeA8VJbIqYef6iQZuVCf3r%2B3BGJnitfRny6Z%2FcGdgbtGf9HnaqBdAwW2u4836Pi1CYlxL%2F6uIFavHWwLFZRQ0b1nI8PbMH3b4ETqoOF8dg6jrfaBvxEUApfKqy%2BLjEcs2AuAevjzDdgvULmKMeEAjwnJhrX4vBjntYhxH3PrgiEoQn5I0aRudv5CIhpYw0yvmuBdg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8Cey--nZQ

I recently went to a card show and saw a sealed Brock Purdy Panini encased RPA and there was a huge indentation on the back so factory encased doesn't mean squat.

[Giroux]

I personally wouldn't pay up for that card because it features #8 that has absolutely no association with Hurts.

[TimBuckTwo]

I personally wouldn't pay up for that card because it features #8 that has absolutely no association with Hurts.

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[Joshi City]

Here are some reasons I can speculate why you haven't had bites on the card:

It's a Flawless /10 Jalen Hurts rookie booklet.

1. It was not encased by Panini with a Panini sticker. Therefore, it's not uncirculated, so you've likely examined the card and found some reason not to have it graded.

Any time I see a Flawless, NT, Immac, or Impeccable Rookie RPA being sold "Raw," my immediate assumption is that it's been examined by the seller and they don't think it will grade 9 or better. I have a few Hurts Immac and NT cards I got in group breaks buying the Eagles (they were relatively cheap that year, as Jalen was a 2nd rounder and Wentz was the undisputed starter) that I've never sent off to grade b/c of surface issues that scanners wouldn't pick up - but made me think they'd likely grade a 7 or 8 at best. I sent most to COMC - whose job it is to examine the card and if not NM/M in their opinion, they are supposed to make notes. No buyer returns on COMC either.

2. You are only offering it as an auction with a starting bid of $2,199.99. No BIN, no OBO. High starting point given #1 and #3 below.

3. The patch is a "not associated" patch. That's all fine b/c most from that time period aren't associated with any player, game, etc. However, the patch on your card is part of the number 8 and Jalen Hurts hasn't ever worn #8. He wore #2 as a rookie then switched to #1.

I'd say lower the starting bid price to $499 and add a reserve or list it for $3k OBO if you're trying to get $2500 or so out of it.

It's a beautiful card, I'll give you free advertising by posting a pic, but those are the reasons why I think you're experiencing what you're experiencing.

This is some of the more 'on point' and also politely said advice I've ever seen on blowout.

[Jaysabz]

I recently went to a card show and saw a sealed Brock Purdy Panini encased RPA and there was a huge indentation on the back so factory encased doesn't mean squat.

Yes, very true. Being Panini encased =/= good grade or no damage, but on the spectrum of purchasing a thicker 130pt card from 2020 using only online pictures and not being able to examine it in-hand personally, I'd go Raw < Panini Uncirculated < Graded

[slyguy]

... a Flawless /10 Jalen Hurts rookie booklet.

1. It was not encased by Panini with a Panini sticker. Therefore, it's not uncirculated, so you've likely examined the card and found some reason not to have it graded.

Any time I see a Flawless, NT, Immac, or Impeccable Rookie RPA being sold "Raw," my immediate assumption is that it's been examined by the seller and they don't think it will grade 9 or better. ...Most ppl don't grade those high end sets, any set 1/1s, most thick cards, etc.
Some would when grading was more lax, but it's usually a bad move unless it's a clear 10 on inspect (and psa10 harder now).
They're just rare enough as-is. The only point to slab them is usually to auth.

But yeah, the reason the one in question hasn't sold is that it's JALEN HURTS on the card.
I have some of his gold/10 cards - from pretty good Panini sets - that have been sitting unsold even with SB win for $100.
He's just not popular for cards. :)
(but I will take him on my FFB teams if draft value is there, sure was 2024)

[Retired hobbist]

I see Hurts is signing at a show next weekend and looks to be 400 an auto and an extra 150 for an inscription. I mean no disrespect, just curious if philly fans think this ridiculous or normal. I personally think its absurd.

Another sign collecting has jumped the shark.

As others have stated what would Mahomes, Rothlesberger or any other living hall of fame qb charge?

[slyguy]

Another sign collecting has jumped the shark.

As others have stated what would Mahomes, Rothlesberger or any other living hall of fame qb charge?Lol, yep.
Mahomes doesn't do signings. Hasn't since about rook year. It'd be a terrible per-hour for him right now. If he fell off for some reason and did signings, I'm sure he'd be $1k or more for an auto session ticket, but he gets much more doing TV and playing football. No point in doing autos except to make money or try to get more popular/known (what Hurts' agent/team is trying).

It's just like Brady in his prime: barely any autos in card sets, almost none in person. They want to keep demand high (both player/agent and card companies). Just not a good use of their time. They have nothing to gain as they're already the #1 guy.

Most of the "player signed" Mahomes cards on eBay etc are fake AF (even some slab ones that duped grader/auth).
It's too bad, but they are. And the rookie or rare later year auth guaranteed auto Panini cards are worth a whole lot... but fakes of those cards too.

Any session PM2 did mid-career would be a small private, not announced or advertised. He'll probably do some VIP sessions when retired. Most guys do.

Brady? No idea, he isn't doing auto sessions. He'd probably be what Mahomes would, but it's all hypothetical as they don't do it. Peyton hasn't done much since early retirement either. Terrible use of their time... more for TV/ads/appears. Paintin Manning > autograph session Manning.

For HOF/older guys, ones like Cris Carter or Favre or others sign a LOT of stuff as they didn't make (or save?) a ton playing money, and it's maybe $200 or a bit more on them. Other bigger guy like Randy Moss or Peyton Manning sign a bit less or are more popular and maybe $300-$500+ per. Some vets are only $50-100 if they are only famous locally or fairly unknown. They might be "free" auto to first 100, 300, etc (biz pays). I've seen a few of those at businesses' events/parties or customer appreciation days (fairly obscure player usually, but still fun if you like the local team).

[boxbuster7]

Lol, yep.
Mahomes doesn't do signings. Hasn't since about rook year. It'd be a terrible per-hour for him right now. If he fell off for some reason and did signings, I'm sure he'd be $1k or more for an auto session ticket, but he gets much more doing TV and playing football. No point in doing autos except to make money or try to get more popular/known (what Hurts' agent/team is trying).

It's just like Brady in his prime: barely any autos in card sets, almost none in person. They want to keep demand high (both player/agent and card companies). Just not a good use of their time. They have nothing to gain as they're already the #1 guy.

Most of the "player signed" Mahomes cards on eBay etc are fake AF (even some slab ones that duped grader/auth).
It's too bad, but they are. And the rookie or rare later year auth guaranteed auto Panini cards are worth a whole lot... but fakes of those cards too.

Any session PM2 did mid-career would be a small private, not announced or advertised. He'll probably do some VIP sessions when retired. Most guys do.

Brady? No idea, he isn't doing auto sessions. He'd probably be what Mahomes would, but it's all hypothetical as they don't do it. Peyton hasn't done much since early retirement either. Terrible use of their time... more for TV/ads/appears. Paintin Manning > autograph session Manning.

For HOF/older guys, ones like Cris Carter or Favre or others sign a LOT of stuff as they didn't make (or save?) a ton playing money, and it's maybe $200 or a bit more on them. Other bigger guy like Randy Moss or Peyton Manning sign a bit less or are more popular and maybe $300-$500+ per. Some vets are only $50-100 if they are only famous locally or fairly unknown. They might be "free" auto to first 100, 300, etc (biz pays). I've seen a few of those at businesses' events/parties or customer appreciation days (fairly obscure player usually, but still fun if you like the local team).


why you calling him pm2?

[jmarascojr]

A LOT of great (and polite) feedback from many members of the board, but this post hit on most, so I'm quoting it to respond to:

1. Previous owner had it graded by Beckett. I'm personally not a fan of those huge Beckett cases, so I cracked it out. I figured it would lose SOME value due to not being in the original holder and no sticker, but I didn't think it'd be a deal breaker...

2. I originally put it up for 2899 around Super Bowl time with Best Offers being taken. Lowered it to 2599 with Best Offers being taken. When I dropped it this last time, I pulled the BO option.

Full transparency, the highest offer I received was just a tad higher than the Herbert... If it was cash and in person, probably woulda taken it, but eBay fees are a biznatch...

3. Agreed. And unfortunately nothing that I can do anything about. I've also had feedback elsewhere that because he has #2 on the card and he wears #1, that may hurt the value too, IDK...

Again, appreciate all the feedback and the politeness around it, you guys coulda roasted me and you didn't.

I like the card, so if I keep it, I keep it... I just figured that if I was gonna get max value out of it, it'd be now :)


Here are some reasons I can speculate why you haven't had bites on the card:

It's a Flawless /10 Jalen Hurts rookie booklet.

1. It was not encased by Panini with a Panini sticker. Therefore, it's not uncirculated, so you've likely examined the card and found some reason not to have it graded.

2. You are only offering it as an auction with a starting bid of $2,199.99. No BIN, no OBO. High starting point given #1 and #3 below.

3. The patch is a "not associated" patch. That's all fine b/c most from that time period aren't associated with any player, game, etc. However, the patch on your card is part of the number 8 and Jalen Hurts hasn't ever worn #8. He wore #2 as a rookie then switched to #1.

I'd say lower the starting bid price to $499 and add a reserve or list it for $3k OBO if you're trying to get $2500 or so out of it.

It's a beautiful card, I'll give you free advertising by posting a pic, but those are the reasons why I think you're experiencing what you're experiencing.