2025 Topps Heritage...

[mfw13]

Beckett has the 2025 Topps Heritage checklist up nice and early (yay!), although strangely there are no card images, and the release date is "TBA", although it had previously been announced as April 30th.

https://www.beckett.com/news/2025-topps-heritage-baseball-cards/

Topps has made some interesting changes to the product, which could be good or bad depending on your perspective.

- the Real One checklist has gotten huge (105 cards), and in line with other products, is now bloated with rookies. There are 28 players who were active in 1976, although interestingly no Yount or Carlton Real One autos despite the fact that they have other autos in the set. And there are no Ohtani autos, period.

- lots of new auto subsets, which makes me think that they are going to stick to the 2024HHN formula of having 7-9 autos per case, rather than the old 2-4.

- the entire set is being Chromed, also in line with 2024HHN. Unfortunately, this is going to devalue Chromes and also make it impossible to build complete chrome sets anymore, which has been a popular activity in the past.

- no mention of minis or throwbacks

- there is a new "1976 Redefined" subset.....could that be horizontal cards?

Anyway....everything points to a higher price point at release, since the product seems to be structured similarly to 24HHN, with more autos per case, and the entire set chromed.

[mikejones]

Beckett has the 2025 Topps Heritage checklist up nice and early (yay!), although strangely there are no card images, and the release date is "TBA", although it had previously been announced as April 30th.

https://www.beckett.com/news/2025-topps-heritage-baseball-cards/

Topps has made some interesting changes to the product, which could be good or bad depending on your perspective.

- the Real One checklist has gotten huge (105 cards), and in line with other products, is now bloated with rookies. There are 28 players who were active in 1976, although interestingly no Yount or Carlton Real One autos despite the fact that they have other autos in the set. And there are no Ohtani autos, period.

- lots of new auto subsets, which makes me think that they are going to stick to the 2024HHN formula of having 7-9 autos per case, rather than the old 2-4.

- the entire set is being Chromed, also in line with 2024HHN. Unfortunately, this is going to devalue Chromes and also make it impossible to build complete chrome sets anymore, which has been a popular activity in the past.

- no mention of minis or throwbacks

- there is a new "1976 Redefined" subset.....could that be horizontal cards?

Anyway....everything points to a higher price point at release, since the product seems to be structured similarly to 24HHN, with more autos per case, and the entire set chromed.

As I guessed. All chrome in heritage. That's one of the worst ideas. This ain't heritage. I'm out. Boxes will probably be $200. Sticking to singles.

Edit: Those chromes are going to be utterly worth pennies with the exception of the superfractor, gold, and black. They are really diluting the chrome technology that was so cool in the 90s.

Edit 2: OH let's make a 100 card insert checklist so this product will not be about making sets.

[ThoseBackPages]

will sell well, easily

wax addiction is at an all time high

[mfw13]

Edit: Those chromes are going to be utterly worth pennies with the exception of the superfractor, gold, and black. They are really diluting the chrome technology that was so cool in the 90s.

Edit 2: OH let's make a 100 card insert checklist so this product will not be about making sets.

I think it's just another iteration of the "stuff the product with a lot of low-value stuff and convince people that it's worth paying more for" strategy.

At any given time, there are probably only 25-50 players which are actually in demand....go back through the 100-card chrome checklists and you'll see that probably a third of the checklist is either run-of-the-mill regulars or rookies who never made it.

I think that the one change that they could make would be to make chromes of the retired players and insert them as SSPs.

But having 500 chromes, when 400+ of them are $1 players that nobody really cares about them is just about creating the "illusion of value"....just like making it easier to pull autos, when most of them are scrubs.

[Dodgerfan74]

Roki has a card. Why doesn’t it have RC label?

[Cardsandcoffee]

As I guessed. All chrome in heritage. That's one of the worst ideas. This ain't heritage. I'm out. Boxes will probably be $200. Sticking to singles.

Edit: Those chromes are going to be utterly worth pennies with the exception of the superfractor, gold, and black. They are really diluting the chrome technology that was so cool in the 90s.

Edit 2: OH let's make a 100 card insert checklist so this product will not be about making sets.

I agree. Just an awful idea

I think it's just another iteration of the "stuff the product with a lot of low-value stuff and convince people that it's worth paying more for" strategy.

At any given time, there are probably only 25-50 players which are actually in demand....go back through the 100-card chrome checklists and you'll see that probably a third of the checklist is either run-of-the-mill regulars or rookies who never made it.

I think that the one change that they could make would be to make chromes of the retired players and insert them as SSPs.

But having 500 chromes, when 400+ of them are $1 players that nobody really cares about them is just about creating the "illusion of value"....just like making it easier to pull autos, when most of them are scrubs.

Couldn't agree more. I love Heritage and look forward to building a set every year. Heritage has a die hard collector fan base, that for the most part, was happy with the product line. What Fanatics is doing to Heritage, in order to justify a higher cost and thus profit, is gross. A bloated chrome and Real One auto checklist is a sizable step backward in collector experience. Very few people, maybe none, care about common players who get chromed, or the forgettable no name rookie coming in for a cup of coffee, only to bounce up and down the minors before never being heard from again.

Seeing the chrome and auto checklist just reminds me of the adage: When everything is special, nothing is special

[KhalDrogo]

Sounds like a lot of improvements for a dying brand.

[PumpnDumpling]

Still waiting on On-Card Chrome/Ref AU

[hermanotarjeta]

BOOM!

We’ll hear that sound a lot watching box breakers pull common chrome heritage cards out of packs.

[coupie21]

I think it's just another iteration of the "stuff the product with a lot of low-value stuff and convince people that it's worth paying more for" strategy.

At any given time, there are probably only 25-50 players which are actually in demand....go back through the 100-card chrome checklists and you'll see that probably a third of the checklist is either run-of-the-mill regulars or rookies who never made it.

I think that the one change that they could make would be to make chromes of the retired players and insert them as SSPs.

But having 500 chromes, when 400+ of them are $1 players that nobody really cares about them is just about creating the "illusion of value"....just like making it easier to pull autos, when most of them are scrubs.

This exactly. It's partially what has driven the price 24HHN to stupid levels and people think it's great. 98% of those parallels is just perceived value, but in reality adds very little value. Yet, people are just falling over themselves to purchase the product. Kudos to Fanatics/Topps; they fed the sheep. I recently saw Jabs Family open 5 blasters that he purchased for $40 each (and what he is subsequently was asking his viewers to pay), getting the 3 green (whatever) parallels of nobodies and 1 chrome /699 per box. Not worth $24.99, let alone $40! It's comical looking at some of the '24HHN cards on Ebay and what sellers are trying to get. Even more comical (to me) is actually what few of the cards have sold for. I just want to grab ahold of some of these people and shake them until they come to their senses. But, in the end, who am I to tell people how to spend their money. Let me add, I view all this from the point of me being a collector....I don't purchase to sell/flip. If I did, maybe I would think differently. However, it seems like the collector is the one getting bent over and stuck paying the $200 per box if they want the product.

[Chris P]

BOOM!

We’ll hear that sound a lot watching box breakers pull common chrome heritage cards out of packs.

Yep..its hilarious watching people break this stuff screaming how "loaded" this product is when the majority of the "hits" are just commons

[Cracktoast]

Sounds like a lot of improvements for a dying brand.

Agreed..... Heritage needed an update to bring it more into the modern era and expand the collector base for it as we get into some of the less popular late 70's designs.

[base set]

It's comical looking at some of the '24HHN cards on Ebay and what sellers are trying to get. Even more comical (to me) is actually what few of the cards have sold for.

A telling way to examine this phenomenon (thinking the value flows from the /x vs actual player-team collector base) is on COMC in sets like Chrome Sonic & Chrome Platinum Anniversary, with the prices on things like black&white lava /175 or whatever. Aside from the silly prices, the four year sales data is right there for all to see. For thousands and thousands of cards, the number is: zero.

[base set]

I have never been drawn to the 76 design. It beats 1970 for sure but it might otherwise likely finish #9 if I had to create a top-ten-of-the-seventies. I think the repetitive-ness of the little player graphic kinda wears me out looking at too many 76s at once. Maybe better for singles than sets?

I do think 78 & 79 are under-rated for their simplicity, particularly 78 with the classy cursive, something now rarely seen in modern life. Then a return to bright primary colors in 79, but again with a minimal use of the 2.5x3.5” real estate by the design. This -could- really let the game of Baseball shine through in the photography, if that’s given a chance. If it’s just hundreds upon hundreds of way zoomed-in torsos as in 2024 Heritage, then it’s all just a bunch of whatevs

[base set]

What I am most interested in for 25 Heritage is whether Topps will attempt to re-create the iconic Bevacqua card. They did a Throwback Thursday use of the concept, but what will we see in 6 weeks or whenever?

[mfw13]

Sounds like a lot of improvements for a dying brand.

Can you be more specific about what you think constitutes an improvement?

Changing up the insert sets is fine....don't have a problem with that.

But chroming the entire set is a negative to me, since it makes it virtually impossible to build the entire Chrome set.

And the increasing number of color parallels are mostly a nuisance, since only regular chromes, refractors, blacks, and golds have any real following. I'd rather get an extra SP that I need to build my set that a random colored refractor I couldn't care less about.

Few people really care about purple, blue, green, or red Heritage refractors.

[imbluestreak23]

My oh my has the product design changed since product inception.

Autograph checklist for the debut product in 2001:

THA-AH Aubrey Huff
THA-AP Andy Pafko
THA-AR Alex Rodriguez
THA-BB Barry Bonds
THA-BS Bobby Shantz
THA-BT Bobby Thomson
THA-CD Carlos Delgado
THA-CF Cliff Floyd
THA-CJ Chipper Jones
THA-CP Corey Patterson
THA-CS Curt Simmons
THA-DD Dom DiMaggio
THA-DG Dick Groat
THA-DS Duke Snider
THA-EM Eddie Mathews EXCH (fulfilled with a Willie Mays Red Ink)
THA-ES Enos Slaughter
THA-FV Fernando Vina
THA-GJ Geoff Jenkins
THA-GM Gil McDougald
THA-HB Hank Bauer
THA-HS Hank Sauer
THA-HW Hoyt Wilhelm
THA-JG Joe Garagiola
THA-JM Joe Mays
THA-JS Johnny Sain
THA-JV Jose Vidro
THA-KB Kris Benson
THA-LD Larry Doby EXCH (never honored)
THA-MB Mark Buehrle
THA-MI Monte Irvin
THA-ML Matt Lawton
THA-ML Mike Lamb
THA-MM Minnie Minoso
THA-MO Magglio Ordonez
THA-MQ Mark Quinn
THA-MR Mark Redman
THA-MS Mike Sweeney
THA-MV Mickey Vernon
THA-NG Nomar Garciaparra
THA-PFR Phil Rizzuto
THA-PR Preacher Roe
THA-RH Richard Hidalgo
THA-RR Robin Roberts
THA-RS Red Schoendienst
THA-RW Randy Wolf
THA-SPB Sean Burroughs
THA-TG Tom Glavine
THA-TH Todd Helton
THA-TL Terrence Long
THA-VL Vernon Law
THA-WM Willie Mays
THA-WS Warren Spahn

Mikey knows vet auto expense > RC zit faced kid expense. LOAD IT UP with junk baby! The chunky oreo/wax addict neanderthals will EAT IT UP!

TLDR: Singles only for me

[Skipscards]

Sounds like a lot of improvements for a dying brand.

Dying brand? Aside than Flagship and Bowman, it’s the only brand that has sold strong year after year for almost a quarter of a century.

[MotorboatJones]

Dying brand? Aside than Flagship and Bowman, it’s the only brand that has sold strong year after year for almost a quarter of a century.

Exactly. Far from a dying brand.

[rudan007]

My oh my has the product design changed since product inception.

Autograph checklist for the debut product in 2001:

THA-AH Aubrey Huff
THA-AP Andy Pafko
THA-AR Alex Rodriguez
THA-BB Barry Bonds
THA-BS Bobby Shantz
THA-BT Bobby Thomson
THA-CD Carlos Delgado
THA-CF Cliff Floyd
THA-CJ Chipper Jones
THA-CP Corey Patterson
THA-CS Curt Simmons
THA-DD Dom DiMaggio
THA-DG Dick Groat
THA-DS Duke Snider
THA-EM Eddie Mathews EXCH (fulfilled with a Willie Mays Red Ink)
THA-ES Enos Slaughter
THA-FV Fernando Vina
THA-GJ Geoff Jenkins
THA-GM Gil McDougald
THA-HB Hank Bauer
THA-HS Hank Sauer
THA-HW Hoyt Wilhelm
THA-JG Joe Garagiola
THA-JM Joe Mays
THA-JS Johnny Sain
THA-JV Jose Vidro
THA-KB Kris Benson
THA-LD Larry Doby EXCH (never honored)
THA-MB Mark Buehrle
THA-MI Monte Irvin
THA-ML Matt Lawton
THA-ML Mike Lamb
THA-MM Minnie Minoso
THA-MO Magglio Ordonez
THA-MQ Mark Quinn
THA-MR Mark Redman
THA-MS Mike Sweeney
THA-MV Mickey Vernon
THA-NG Nomar Garciaparra
THA-PFR Phil Rizzuto
THA-PR Preacher Roe
THA-RH Richard Hidalgo
THA-RR Robin Roberts
THA-RS Red Schoendienst
THA-RW Randy Wolf
THA-SPB Sean Burroughs
THA-TG Tom Glavine
THA-TH Todd Helton
THA-TL Terrence Long
THA-VL Vernon Law
THA-WM Willie Mays
THA-WS Warren Spahn

Mikey knows vet auto expense > RC zit faced kid expense. LOAD IT UP with junk baby! The chunky oreo/wax addict neanderthals will EAT IT UP!

TLDR: Singles only for me

2001 had Low percentage of commons while 2025 real ones are about 40% commons. The endless common chromes will also not add value...

[KhalDrogo]

Dying brand? Aside than Flagship and Bowman, it’s the only brand that has sold strong year after year for almost a quarter of a century.
Sure it has. It’s such a success that Fanatics is turning it on its head and making it mirror every other trash product they release.

You guys live in a bubble. Like mfw complaining about checklists.

[Skipscards]

Sure it has. It’s such a success that Fanatics is turning it on its head and making it mirror every other trash product they release.

You guys live in a bubble. Like mfw complaining about checklists.

Not a bubble. Fanatics doing stupid things doesn’t mean it’s not a success. They made changes because they want more of the money. They have been working hard to screw everyone except themselves. Mission accomplished.

For resellers it is the easiest product to turn a profit on every year. And it’s one of the only sets people still actually build every year.

[EBCollectibles]

When Fanatics takes over everything you won't be able to afford anything. It's going to be bad.

[markcorrigan55]

I didn’t see Mike Trout on the Real One checklist :/

[bub838]

odds https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0662/9749/5709/files/2025ToppsHeritageBaseballOdds_b2d12525-ff01-4019-94ad-37fa834c4e54.pdf?v=1743199939

[dantheman514]

Not a bubble. Fanatics doing stupid things doesn’t mean it’s not a success. They made changes because they want more of the money. They have been working hard to screw everyone except themselves. Mission accomplished.

For resellers it is the easiest product to turn a profit on every year. And it’s one of the only sets people still actually build every year.

This is exactly what every business does. I don't understand why people would think Topps, Fanatics, Panini, Upper Deck, etc. would be any different.

[auctionjmm]

odds https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0662/9749/5709/files/2025ToppsHeritageBaseballOdds_b2d12525-ff01-4019-94ad-37fa834c4e54.pdf?v=1743199939

Well based on these, looks to be the same 3 autos per case. Probably not a good thing with the checklist being so large. 7-9 autos per case like HHN might have been okay.

[jduds]

Dying brand? Aside than Flagship and Bowman, it’s the only brand that has sold strong year after year for almost a quarter of a century.

It hasn't sold well recently though. It's one of a very few products to get heavily discounted within a year or two of its release. 2024 Heritage didn't dip at least, but it still is available close to release price which is not the norm for 2024 products. 2021-2023 have all been available at big discounts in a market where discounts for wax are rare. Heritage blasters routinely get the clearance treatment and that's the only baseball product I can say that about. It's a product also going into a run of less popular designs, so changes seemed inevitable.

[Jaypers]

Roki has a card. Why doesn’t it have RC label?

It does. "RC" is found after his name.

[ScooterD]

The Roki card with RC was printed before his MLB debut, but distributed after.

It appears that the RC rules are different for the foreign league transfers - Ohtani had cards with the logo released before his debut. Can someone who understands the legalities behind these things explain what allows this to happen?

[rudan007]

odds https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0662/9749/5709/files/2025ToppsHeritageBaseballOdds_b2d12525-ff01-4019-94ad-37fa834c4e54.pdf?v=1743199939

How many parallels do we really need? I stopped counting after 20......

[Cracktoast]

yeah could care less about color variations for every single thing. I get ok have Red,Gold, Blue, Green, Black and Gold for paper base and Chrome but that's it. Also maybe I have just never paid attention but have the SP's always had Flip Stock and Color Variations outside of the Purple Hotbox?

[mfisher27]

The Roki card with RC was printed before his MLB debut, but distributed after.

It appears that the RC rules are different for the foreign league transfers - Ohtani had cards with the logo released before his debut. Can someone who understands the legalities behind these things explain what allows this to happen?

I think it's similar to Ohtani where they had a Major League Contract signed and were part of MLBPA and/or 40 man roster (not sure which was more important). It was something along those lines. Like how Luis Robert had a RC in 2020 Topps Opening Day, which was released before the start of the season. He had signed a Major League Contract earlier.

[mfisher27]

I'm on the fence about the Chrome checklist expanding to the whole 500 cards but I think the biggest change is going back to 401 - 500 as the SPs.

WHAT WAS THE POINT OF MAKING 1-100 THE SPS IN 2024 TOPPS HERITAGE THEN?!?!

[TimBuckTwo]

This is going to be a great set full of good stuff.

I will let you guys know when i pull the George Washington cut autograph.

[mfw13]

odds https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0662/9749/5709/files/2025ToppsHeritageBaseballOdds_b2d12525-ff01-4019-94ad-37fa834c4e54.pdf?v=1743199939

Biggest change that I can see is that SP's are now 1:4 in hobby (instead of the usual 1:3)....so you're going to get only 72 SP's in a hobby case instead of 96! :eek:

Won't even be able to come close to a master set from a case!

[Nester99]

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Let’s hope these are on card !!

Nice improvement


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[Natsfan32]

My guess is that they will be priced similar to 2024 Heritage High. Just hope they have fixed their computer problem.

[scotchtape0]

Looks like auto odds are back down to normal, falling about 3 per case on average.

[jduds]

I generally join with the ambivalence towards the explosion of parallels, but I definitely see myself chasing the Bicentennial parallels.

[nick7777]

Random question for the group. Do you think Topps will ever "reset" the year on Heritage or the 35th anniversary retro cards on the flagship? For example, in 7 years, we'll be at 1983 for Heritage which was the first year they did the 35th anniversary set in 2018. And in flagship, we're headed towards some really ugly designs (much of the 1990s was pretty bad design-wise, with maybe just a few decent ones, and 1998-2000 were truly terrible!). Anyway, I think we're like 7-8 years away on both sets from being in a weird place (back at 1983 for Heritage; at 1998 for flagship).

Obviously any answers here are total speculation -- so I guess mostly curious what people want to have happen?

[rudan007]

Random question for the group. Do you think Topps will ever "reset" the year on Heritage or the 35th anniversary retro cards on the flagship? For example, in 7 years, we'll be at 1983 for Heritage which was the first year they did the 35th anniversary set in 2018. And in flagship, we're headed towards some really ugly designs (much of the 1990s was pretty bad design-wise, with maybe just a few decent ones, and 1998-2000 were truly terrible!). Anyway, I think we're like 7-8 years away on both sets from being in a weird place (back at 1983 for Heritage; at 1998 for flagship).

Obviously any answers here are total speculation -- so I guess mostly curious what people want to have happen?

I could see the 35th anniversary concept dying off in a few years(maybe after '95 Topps). Platinum Anniversary was a bit of a reset but looks like Topps killed it. Heritage could easily live on, as long as Topps manages to not ruin it more and more each year.

The 35th anniversary concept has been nice. Especially when used right(using that eras players). The only product that plays out the design catalog is Archives. That set should have been canceled over Platinum Anniversary in my opinion.

[mikejones]

So about 17,600 cases produced?

[Natsfan32]

[QUOTE=rudan007;19862669 Platinum Anniversary was a bit of a reset but looks like Topps killed it. [/QUOTE]

Why do you believe it was killed? I heard the same comments about 2024 Heritage High and 2025 Heritage. Topps just seem slow to announce new releases.

[PumpnDumpling]

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Let’s hope these are on card !!

Nice improvement


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Dude! I have been hype on THC-A 4EVA

[mfisher27]

So about 17,600 cases produced?

Of hobby or total?


I didn't get that many hobby cases.

I got anywhere from 7,350 - 8,800 based on cut autos and non high number flip stock odds.

[rudan007]

Why do you believe it was killed? I heard the same comments about 2024 Heritage High and 2025 Heritage. Topps just seem slow to announce new releases.

Just haven't heard anything about it. I guess there is still chance, '23 was released in May of '24. Topps keeps getting later with their release so who knows.....

[DarcyWinston]

So news and baseball flashbacks, then and now, and new age performers all gone?

[mikejones]

Of hobby or total?


I didn't get that many hobby cases.

I got anywhere from 7,350 - 8,800 based on cut autos and non high number flip stock odds.

I used baseball cut and celebrity cut. Odds per pack comes out to about 5,000,000 packs. 5,000,000÷24=208,333 boxes ÷12=17,361 cases.

For hobby cases. Doesn't account for retail.

[msw1984]

I used baseball cut and celebrity cut. Odds per pack comes out to about 5,000,000 packs. 5,000,000÷24=208,333 boxes ÷12=17,361 cases.

For hobby cases. Doesn't account for retail.

You're double counting...

Work backwards from your roughly 5,000,000 packs...

Celebrity Cut Autos are 1:844,841. There are only 3 of them.

5,000,000/844,841 = ~6

Do you see the problem with your calculations?

I got:

- Flip Stock /5: 1:1,059 hobby packs
- 500 cards in the checklist
- 1,059x5x500 = 2,647,500 hobby packs
- 2,647,500/24 = 110,312.5 hobby boxes
- 110,312.5/12 = ~9,193 hobby cases

[msw1984]

Let's use an extreme hypothetical (going to make up odds and cards):

- Cut Auto of Abe Lincoln, 1:100,000 hobby packs.
- Cut Autos of Albert Einstein and Nikola Tesla, 1:50,000 hobby packs.

There is only one of each Cut Auto.

If you add 100,00+(50,000x2) = 200,000, then you've double counted.

Using 200,000 packs, you'd expect 2 Lincolns and 2 each of Einstein and Tesla.

[mfw13]

Pre-sale tomorrow at 9am PST/12pm EST....gonna be very interesting to see where Topps prices these.

With the switch to SP's falling 1 every four packs instead of 1 every three packs, Mega cases and Blaster cases are now going to have more SP's than a hobby case.

Hobby Case = 72 SP's and 2.32 autos
Blaster Case = 80 SP's and 1.45 autos
Mega Case = 85 SP's (there are 17 packs/box this year instead of 15) and 2.25 autos

[ThoseBackPages]

this will sell well

[Giancarlo27]

Making the chromes a full rainbow is absolutely sickening. Heritage gold chromes /5 are some of favorite cards in my collection. They were special because the rainbows were short, and the golds were so rare. Now they are just /50 like every other product and ruins the fun of chasing themhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250401/d4e38e4bf1fc3fa249d2cb048735b837.jpg


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[queonda]

I’ve only been back in cards a few years, but standardizing the parallel numbering across products bothers even me. Part of the fun was figuring everything out.

[bub838]

I’ve only been back in cards a few years, but standardizing the parallel numbering across products bothers even me. Part of the fun was figuring everything out.

Not all breakers are smart enough to figure it out. They need it as simplified as possible.

[jgolf1]

Assuming prices aren't outrageous, what's everyone going to try and get today for this release?

I'm thinking hobby to try to get the "good stuff" but also the possibility of more SP in the mega boxes has me thinking that way. My one hangup is that my LCS always has megas priced more reasonably than hobby if/when I want to fill in or rip for fun.

[Bob Ross]

Really cool how's there no price yet.

[jduds]

Assuming prices aren't outrageous, what's everyone going to try and get today for this release?

I'm thinking hobby to try to get the "good stuff" but also the possibility of more SP in the mega boxes has me thinking that way. My one hangup is that my LCS always has megas priced more reasonably than hobby if/when I want to fill in or rip for fun.

Not a thing for now. With a less popular design and rookie class, I'd expect to be able to pick this up cheaper later.

[erock28]

Not a thing for now. With a less popular design and rookie class, I'd expect to be able to pick this up cheaper later.

This is the no brainer answer, unless it comes out reasonably priced. This should be a $1,000 case by November.

[FatButcher]

Definitely think the 24 HHN release timing was to try and create a bump for this. Given the checklist I think this will be much closer to usual with Heritage, except the changes to Chromes, etc. will turn off some of the set builders.

This will be cheap eventually and still won't be worth it.

[cpa85]

Do we expect the noon ET preorder to be another disasterclass or not?

I grabbed a single box of Chrome Black yesterday without any issue whatsoever, but I also figure there's not quite the frenzy for that as there is for Heritage.

[Picklepete]

For the price we pay it should be 1 auto per hobby box !
Who the hell wants a relic of a white jersey that the player never even wore.

[jbriskin05]

no price posted yet leads me to believe this going to relatively expensive to what heritage normally is...i hope i'm wrong but...

[Skipscards]

Good grief. Image variations are now 1:97 packs. 2024 was 1:65. Remember when they were one per box?

[Cardsandcoffee]

Making the chromes a full rainbow is absolutely sickening. Heritage gold chromes /5 are some of favorite cards in my collection. They were special because the rainbows were short, and the golds were so rare. Now they are just /50 like every other product and ruins the fun of chasing themhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250401/d4e38e4bf1fc3fa249d2cb048735b837.jpg


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Golds /5 was my favorite thing about Heritage beyond Red Inks. Why is Topps/Fanatics messing with things that nobody asked for? These things gave Heritage uniqueness and differentiation.

[phil]

$109.99 pass

[Bob Ross]

$109.99 lol. What on earth.

[ThoseBackPages]

cheap!

[peelwonder]

Terrible price with no guaranteed ink.

[Ajax1723]

Weaker RC class, only 2-3 autos a case.....a very sad pass on my end at 110.

[phil]

Fanatics trying to cash in on HHN popularity as predicted.

[ThoseBackPages]

no worries, others will buy if you do not

[cpa85]

Well that was easy. Got a hobby and two megas. Even had to run downstairs and grab a different credit card number (didn't want to use the one I had saved) and it didn't make me too late.

[Skipscards]

I picked up a box for the collection but will just buy a master set on the secondary market.

[Bob Ross]

That price is appalling.

[Skipscards]

That price is appalling.

It is, but it's not surprising.

[ThoseBackPages]

That price is appalling.

im surprised they went that low!

[imbluestreak23]

No longer a product for the poors.

Nothing with licensing is for the poors anymore :(

[Bob Ross]

Only a tidy 24000 boxes loaded. Breakers don't even want it.

[ThoseBackPages]

Only a tidy 24000 boxes loaded. Breakers don't even want it.

they get their own :)

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

I will picking this and High Number up at discounted prices later. Thanks Topps.

[bulljh]

Once I saw that autos went back down to normal, but the buy in case price was the same as 24 HHN on day one, it made my decision real easy

[Natsfan32]

With all of the garbage out there selling out instantly at $500+ per box I don't understand why there is so much whining about a price of $110.

[dodgerfanjohn]

If I am not mistaken:

Mega Box case = 20 boxes * 17 packs = 340 packs
$999.99

Hobby Box case = 12 boxes *24 Packs = 288 packs
$1319.99

I realize odds are longer for some things in the mega boxes. My biggest issue is the collation in retail products in the past has been hideous. I do not know if thats still the case as I haven't bought heritage retail since about 2016.

But man, for $320 less, you get 52 more packs. Mega's really seem to be the way to go.

[Spartacus]

Since last year once the prices became so inflated I felt defeated with even wanting to buy a box or a case of anything. Then I was like well if I can't beat them join them. I have almost bought each product drop and sold it the next day after receiving to about 5 different card shops in the area for a nice profit each time. 2025 might not have the class but will still sell well short term and you can't get any better then pre-order price.

[bustsomewax]

If I am not mistaken:

Mega Box case = 20 boxes * 17 packs = 340 packs
$999.99

Hobby Box case = 12 boxes *24 Packs = 288 packs
$1319.99

I realize odds are longer for some things in the mega boxes. My biggest issue is the collation in retail products in the past has been hideous. I do not know if thats still the case as I haven't bought heritage retail since about 2016.

But man, for $320 less, you get 52 more packs. Mega's really seem to be the way to go.

I just came here to say the same thing. Was wondering if I was missing anything with the Megas. I think you get 2-3 autos per case with them too.

[eastbayak]

delete

[kyle1707]

Is this going up for sale in large dist for 229.99 ??

Because there’s only 68 thousand boxes made. Sspppp product

Anyway. The display boxes are great looking.

[dodgerfanjohn]

I just came here to say the same thing. Was wondering if I was missing anything with the Megas. I think you get 2-3 autos per case with them too.

Its like 2.5 autos per mega case by odds (like one per 8 or 8.5 boxes).

Note: many of the long odds special relics and autos are not possible in retail.

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

With all of the garbage out there selling out instantly at $500+ per box I don't understand why there is so much whining about a price of $110.

Who is whining, no one wants to pay for that garbage either....

[RainCityShecks]

With all of the garbage out there selling out instantly at $500+ per box I don't understand why there is so much whining about a price of $110.

Good point. I still am not interested in this however.

[crdbored]

I get the uniform parallels across all products but Heritage was a bit of an outlier when it came to chrome.
I don't think this product needed the sparkle and chrome 10x rainbow.

Also, based on the odds, looks like the GOLD is no longer to /5 but to /50.
The black odds fall between green and gold so should follow the heritage chrome Black.

RIP to /5 GOLD.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Flagship hobby was insanely produced and that dried up quickly and has risen. This likely will head in the same direction. I know they are different animals, but the game has changed.

[bustsomewax]

Its like 2.5 autos per mega case by odds (like one per 8 or 8.5 boxes).

Note: many of the long odds special relics and autos are not possible in retail.

The chrome stuff is a bit harder to hit too. So maybe the value isnt all that much better.

[premium1981]

Flagship hobby was insanely produced and that dried up quickly and has risen. This likely will head in the same direction. I know they are different animals, but the game has changed.

Yea, this is most likely true. I don't want to buy any at this price, but I also know this is as cheap as it will be found for a couple of months. I'm still mulling my decision, and will not care if it sells out while I'm deciding.:)!

[Natsfan32]

Good point. I still am not interested in this however.

Someone is paying for it

[dodgerfanjohn]

I get the uniform parallels across all products but Heritage was a bit of an outlier when it came to chrome.
I don't think this product needed the sparkle and chrome 10x rainbow.



Heritage was flailing for a few years now.

It really doesn't matter what you or I think. Much more matters what consumers think. 2024 Heritage High has gone nuts. No one thought that was possible.

Also, it looks at least somewhat to me like they are trying to wean collectors off hobby boxes, offering a better value in retail.

[dodgerfanjohn]

The chrome stuff is a bit harder to hit too. So maybe the value isnt all that much better.

$320 buys a whole lot of chrome.

[bustsomewax]

I picked up a box for the collection but will just buy a master set on the secondary market.

A master set of this is going to be really hard to make and sell at a decent price. Usually I go this route to recoup value, but it looks like it would take way too much spent to make it worth it.

[dinkleberg]

much of the 1990s was pretty bad design-wise, with maybe just a few decent ones, and 1998-2000 were truly terrible!

Why would you pierce my heart with a dagger like this? :cry: How rude...

(I'm SO HAPPY that we're finally out of the 80s and into the years I held the most of!)

... As for 2025 release: I think it speaks volumes that sealed cases of Hobby AND Mega are still available for order today, and not Sold Out like every other product.

Glad that I snatched up a bunch of Topps Chrome Black instead, that should be a good rip. I'll save up for Chrome Platinum later this year instead.

[JoshMN]

Worth noting that according to the CPI Inflation Calculator, $89.00 in February 2020 has the same buying power as $109.78 in February 2025.

[rudan007]

The price goes up and now there is 8 cards per pack instead of 9. 24 less cards per box(1-2 less SPs per box). I agree that they should at least guarantee an auto in each box if they expect $110. Either they are trying to eliminate the poors from entering the hobby OR they know the addicts will pay the price regardless. 10x the hobby didn't mean amount of collectors ;)

[RainCityShecks]

The price goes up and now there is 8 cards per pack instead of 9. 24 less cards per box(1-2 less SPs per box). I agree that they should at least guarantee an auto in each box if they expect $110. Either they are trying to eliminate the poors from entering the hobby OR they know the addicts will pay the price regardless. 10x the hobby didn't mean amount of collectors ;)

I'm a poor and I'm still here! :D:)!

Haha - Topps seems to have over-expected on this pre-sell. Good to see it still just sitting on the site!

[premium1981]

I'm a poor and I'm still here! :D:)!

Haha - Topps seems to have over-expected on this pre-sell. Good to see it still just sitting on the site!

They didn’t over expect anything. There is just a lot of available. Same thing happened with Series 1. They have a strangle hold on pricing and although it’s high, people will still buy. The products that sell out instantly are limited. This really isn’t.

[Skipscards]

A master set of this is going to be really hard to make and sell at a decent price. Usually I go this route to recoup value, but it looks like it would take way too much spent to make it worth it.

They'll be out there and for a lot cheaper than ripping myself.

[Skipscards]

The price goes up and now there is 8 cards per pack instead of 9. 24 less cards per box(1-2 less SPs per box). I agree that they should at least guarantee an auto in each box if they expect $110. Either they are trying to eliminate the poors from entering the hobby OR they know the addicts will pay the price regardless. 10x the hobby didn't mean amount of collectors ;)

They aren't trying to eliminate anyone because they don't care. They are just feeding Fanatics Live. 10x meant their bottom-line. This ain't a hobby to them.

[erock28]

Good grief. Image variations are now 1:97 packs. 2024 was 1:65. Remember when they were one per box?

I do indeed - got one per box through 2017 and it has dwindled since then. I will say, whether good or bad, they have included image variations in retail for the first time. That explains the drop in hobby odds to ~3 per case. Doesn't look like hobby production is much different from 2024. Also makes retail that much more appealing relative to hobby.

[jduds]

Flagship hobby was insanely produced and that dried up quickly and has risen. This likely will head in the same direction. I know they are different animals, but the game has changed.

That's standard for Series 1. Recent Heritage releases have been seeing large discounts a few months after release, and they have been doing so even after the game has changed. Products need breakers to prop prices up, and they stay away from Heritage. There's little reason to think this will rise in price unless a must-have rookie emerges. Even that will likely only suffice to keep box prices steady.

[mgugs46]

Other than Roki, what other solid RC are in this? Wood? Crews?

[brentandbecca]

They'll be out there and for a lot cheaper than ripping myself.

I don't know. A Master set with sp and inserts will take 5 cases IF perfect collation.



The fact that the costs is higher than before; 1 less card per pack; sp now 1:4; inserts now 25+ cards per set and they don't even fall 1 per box; no box toppers; no mention of hot box chromes; a huge auto checklist & back to "usual" tougher odds"; chrome for every card & so many parallels

...I may skip busting heritage in qty for the first time since 2001



People have always said Heritage was boring and not much in it (I still love it), and sure on a box level, not much, but it's about the set....yet now, there seems there will be even less unless you want chrome.

With SP and inserts more scarce they instead just added more chrome, which most traditional Heritage collectors don't want and if they do, that is 1 tough set to build

IF hot boxes are gone, then you are not really getting that much more chrome per case and with a watered down checklist

However, it still looks nice, and I'm sure it'll do well.

[MotorboatJones]

Last year preorder price for 2024 Heritage on Topps was $94.99.
This year it’s at $109.99. I mean, I wish it were lower, but it’s not surprising. And it’s not that crazy of an increase in my opinion. The price of everything is higher. I enjoy opening Heritage, so I bought a few boxes. Do people honestly expect the price to be the same as last year ? I didn’t. It’s about what I figured it would be.

[MotorboatJones]

They didn’t over expect anything. There is just a lot of available. Same thing happened with Series 1. They have a strangle hold on pricing and although it’s high, people will still buy. The products that sell out instantly are limited. This really isn’t.

Exactly

[brentandbecca]

Last year preorder price for 2024 Heritage on Topps was $94.99.
This year it’s at $109.99. I mean, I wish it were lower, but it’s not surprising. And it’s not that crazy of an increase in my opinion. The price of everything is higher. I enjoy opening Heritage, so I bought a few boxes. Do people honestly expect the price to be the same as last year ? I didn’t. It’s about what I figured it would be.

No, but to also have less cards per box is a double-edge sword.
Not to mention tougher odds to make a set with sp or master set.
Tough for many to swallow the much added cost if building a set.

[Skipscards]

I don't know. A Master set with sp and inserts will take 5 cases IF perfect collation.



The fact that the costs is higher than before; 1 less card per pack; sp now 1:4; inserts now 25+ cards per set and they don't even fall 1 per box; no box toppers; no mention of hot box chromes; a huge auto checklist & back to "usual" tougher odds"; chrome for every card & so many parallels

...I may skip busting heritage in qty for the first time since 2001



People have always said Heritage was boring and not much in it (I still love it), and sure on a box level, not much, but it's about the set....yet now, there seems there will be even less unless you want chrome.

With SP and inserts more scarce they instead just added more chrome, which most traditional Heritage collectors don't want and if they do, that is 1 tough set to build

IF hot boxes are gone, then you are not really getting that much more chrome per case and with a watered down checklist

However, it still looks nice, and I'm sure it'll do well.

Totally get it. And it’d be sad if you of all people didn’t bust a bunch. Also, I would be happy if they got rid of all the chrome or just went back to a very limited chrome. But that won’t happen because Fanatics is all about the breakers.

I still think buying a set will be a better option for me than busting a case or two like I used to do.

[Skipscards]

No, but to also have less cards per box is a double-edge sword.
Not to mention tougher odds to make a set with sp or master set.
Tough for many to swallow the much added cost if building a set.

Yeah, less cards per pack is annoying .

[MotorboatJones]

No, but to also have less cards per box is a double-edge sword.
Not to mention tougher odds to make a set with sp or master set.
Tough for many to swallow the much added cost if building a set.

Yes. I understand that completely and agree

[Americards]

Did they get rid of the Box Topper because it is harder for breakers to ship?




still available on Topps .com in all 4 formats

[Cracktoast]

Site crashes for Heritage High # and people bit*h then Site runs great for 2025 Heritage and people bit*h because it's still there the next day.

[rfgilles]

Golds /5 was my favorite thing about Heritage beyond Red Inks. Why is Topps/Fanatics messing with things that nobody asked for? These things gave Heritage uniqueness and differentiation.

Probably for the same reason they removed black parallels from Series 1, incompetence from new folks. During the podcast announcing the return of blacks to Series 2, the Topps/Fanatics bigwig wasn't even aware that Golds were traditionally /5 in Heritage. He mentioned they would "stay the same at /50".

[RainCityShecks]

After breaking 2 hobbies of 2024 HHN with a much smaller checklist than this stuff I’ll be staying far far far away from this product.


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[Maverik]

no worries, others will buy if you do not

This is such a stupid point and you keep making it over and over again.

[ThoseBackPages]

This is such a stupid point and you keep making it over and over again.

because its true

[parkerj33]

Just haven't heard anything about it. I guess there is still chance, '23 was released in May of '24. Topps keeps getting later with their release so who knows.....

its not killed. it is expected in late summer/early fall. but nothing official.

[Ajax1723]

Heritage is my favorite product. Every year since 2008.

I'm skipping this year. It's sad. 2-3 autos per case at that many subjects, plus watered down chrome and no chance at a master set. Too many negatives to make it worth the entertainment. There will be some absolute bloodbath cases of this out there.

[Americards]

Heritage is my favorite product. Every year since 2008.

I'm skipping this year. It's sad. 2-3 autos per case at that many subjects, plus watered down chrome and no chance at a master set. Too many negatives to make it worth the entertainment. There will be some absolute bloodbath cases of this out there.
Just buy the master set from Parker!

[MotorboatJones]

Site crashes for Heritage High # and people bit*h then Site runs great for 2025 Heritage and people bit*h because it's still there the next day.

Exactly

[bub838]

Site crashes for Heritage High # and people bit*h then Site runs great for 2025 Heritage and people bit*h because it's still there the next day.

#TenX #ThanksTopps

[Natsfan32]

Have the 2025 Heritage cards actually been released? Usually there are box openings on YouTube before or shortly after release, but I haven't seen any 2025 Topps Heritage openings. Also, I purchased a couple of boxes from Topps on Tuesday and have not received a shipping notice.

[cruiserdaddy7]

Have the 2025 Heritage cards actually been released? Usually there are box openings on YouTube before or shortly after release, but I haven't seen any 2025 Topps Heritage openings. Also, I purchased a couple of boxes from Topps on Tuesday and have not received a shipping notice.

The release date was in the notes. Still 3-4 weeks until release. They just want to hold your money for a month.

[MattKC]

Have the 2025 Heritage cards actually been released? Usually there are box openings on YouTube before or shortly after release, but I haven't seen any 2025 Topps Heritage openings. Also, I purchased a couple of boxes from Topps on Tuesday and have not received a shipping notice.

No, this was a pre-order on Topps.

Hobby box & cases are gone now but mega box/case still available.

[MotorboatJones]

Presale price on another major site for 1 hobby box is $138.30.

Glad I got my 4 at $109.99

[dodgerfanjohn]

Presale price on another major site for 1 hobby box is $138.30.

Glad I got my 4 at $109.99

Indeed. Thats exactly what I did. I bought up to 6 boxes of Heritage each year through 2020, when I started to buy cases. But prices are too much so back down to boxes. Four this year and maybe some supplemental Megas considering they made them quite a bit better now. Just waiting to see if I have some decent Target discounts when they hit.

[mfw13]

I went Mega this year, instead of Hobby......you get more SP's, and the auto odds are about the same as in hobby.

Got a case from Topps for $1000, which is about $300 less than asking price for a hobby case.

[rudan007]

98% chance that hobby boxes will go down in price within 3 weeks of release.

[dodgerfanjohn]

98% chance that hobby boxes will go down in price within 3 weeks of release.

Down from Topps release price ($110) or down from 3rd party presales?

[NickyCards]

I want a Mookie auto but its just too high. I bought his 2014 heritage rookie auto in a BGS 9.5 for slightly more than a 2025 raw.

[rfgilles]

I want a Mookie auto but its just too high. I bought his 2014 heritage rookie auto in a BGS 9.5 for slightly more than a 2025 raw.

How do you know how much 2025 raw costs? Heritage hasn't been released yet.

[ThoseBackPages]

I want a Mookie auto but its just too high. I bought his 2014 heritage rookie auto in a BGS 9.5 for slightly more than a 2025 raw.

mookie wil be signing thousands of autos going forward, no rush to get one

[ScooterD]

mookie wil be signing thousands of autos going forward, no rush to get one

Do you think that the new auto releases hurt the values of the 2014s - or do those stay strong because they are 1sts and RCs?

[ThoseBackPages]

Do you think that the new auto releases hurt the values of the 2014s - or do those stay strong because they are 1sts and RCs?

i think the 2014's stay strong. i wouldnt worry about them dropping as far as "value" goes just because he will sign new releases for the next few decades.

[nowiamsad]

Do you think that the new auto releases hurt the values of the 2014s - or do those stay strong because they are 1sts and RCs?

His 2014 autos won’t be as coveted (for being his only), but him signing again is huge for his overall market IMO.. It’s going to bring in more people who PC him now that he’s got some bigger hits in modern products.

That being said the current asking price for his 2025 autos is ridiculous.

[dodgerfanjohn]

i think the 2014's stay strong. i wouldnt worry about them dropping as far as "value" goes just because he will sign new releases for the next few decades.

He already has three WS rings. The more he gets, the better his rookies look. He is most def the most undervalued superstar in baseball right now.

[NickyCards]

How do you know how much 2025 raw costs? Heritage hasn't been released yet.

You know what I meant. 2024

[wilsonsingles]

went the 20 box mega box case route as well.
in for 4 cases.

[mfw13]

BTW....has anybody heard/seen anything about oversize box-toppers in 2025 Heritage.

They're not mentioned in the sell sheet, nor listed in the checklists that I've seen released, but have been a part of Heritage for the past five years.

Without them, hobby cases lose about $50-100 in value.

[BlowoutBuzz]

Added a bunch of new images here >> https://www.blowoutcards.com/blog/first-buzz-2025-topps-heritage-baseball-cards/

https://www.blowoutcards.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/25THBB_6910_FR.jpg

[Skipscards]

One thing that is nice to see is all the 1/1 cut autos actually have a picture of the subject.

[mfw13]

On the Topps website, the release date is now April 23rd, not April 30th....

[mfw13]

Heritage coming out in less than a week, and no posts on the thread for almost two days....

Are people just too busy still working on 24 HHN to start thinking about 2025 Heritage yet?

Or did Fanatics make a huge mistake taking by releasing the two products so close together on the calendar?

[sandyfrank]

Not sure why but I've always digged the 1976 design, probably just nostalgia as a 70's-80's kid.

[mfw13]

Not sure why but I've always digged the 1976 design, probably just nostalgia as a 70's-80's kid.

Me too....1976 was the first year I was old enough (and had a big enough allowance) to buy packs of cards.

[dodgerfanjohn]

Heritage coming out in less than a week, and no posts on the thread for almost two days....

Are people just too busy still working on 24 HHN to start thinking about 2025 Heritage yet?

Or did Fanatics make a huge mistake taking by releasing the two products so close together on the calendar?

Just holding pattern I think. There hasn’t been any new info released.

[MotorboatJones]

Me too....1976 was the first year I was old enough (and had a big enough allowance) to buy packs of cards.

I collected 1975 as my first year, but love 1976 as well ! Can’t wait !

[nowiamsad]

The base Ohtani is one of his nicer looking cards in a Dodgers uni.

[ThoseBackPages]

The base Ohtani is one of his nicer looking cards in a Dodgers uni.

lets see it!

[mfw13]

lets see it!

It's on the sell sheet....

https://www.beckett.com/news/2025-topps-heritage-baseball-cards/

[ThoseBackPages]

It's on the sell sheet....

https://www.beckett.com/news/2025-topps-heritage-baseball-cards/

NICE! i like it! his 2025 H is a terrribe image and PS job

[mikejones]

It's on the sell sheet....

https://www.beckett.com/news/2025-topps-heritage-baseball-cards/

Do are all chrome version numbered to 1976. If so, that's terrible.

[mfw13]

Do are all chrome version numbered to 1976. If so, that's terrible.

From what I can tell, the stamp on the front of the Ohtani is "1776-1976".....so maybe some kind of bicentennial thing.

[Rooftop]

You would think they would have a 660 card set, like 1976

[ottobord]

Looking forward to this: This is the first year I began buying cards as a kid. Great design and colors.

[MotorboatJones]

Looking forward to this: This is the first year I began buying cards as a kid. Great design and colors.

I would suspect preorders may begin shipping very soon with next Wednesday as release day :)!

[PoPCulture]

I would suspect preorders may begin shipping very soon with next Wednesday as release day :)!

Topps printed the label for mine last night but, as expected, it won’t ship out until Monday for Wednesday delivery.

[mfw13]

Topps printed the label for mine last night but, as expected, it won’t ship out until Monday for Wednesday delivery.

Same here....my Mega case is shipping from TX to WA, so not sure how long it will take.

But I'm keeping my calendar clear next weekend :D

First case I've bought since 2016 Heritage.

[nowiamsad]

NICE! i like it! his 2025 H is a terrribe image and PS job

Agreed! Too much of the 2024 Ohtani stuff was badly photoshopped. They didn’t adjust his skin at all to offset the red reflected light off the angels jersey.

[ThoseBackPages]

Agreed! Too much of the 2024 Ohtani stuff was badly photoshopped. They didn’t adjust his skin at all to offset the red reflected light off the angels jersey.

HAHAHAHAH #ThanksTopps

[mfw13]

Same here....my Mega case is shipping from TX to WA, so not sure how long it will take.

But I'm keeping my calendar clear next weekend :D

First case I've bought since 2016 Heritage.

My case has been picked up by FedEx....ETA is Wednesday here in Seattle.

[ThoseBackPages]

oh wow. Chrome autos

HAHAHAHAHA

[mfw13]

I'm a bit shocked that nobody is talking about the huge changes in the product this year....

SP's are now 1:4 instead of 1:3......a hobby case will now get you only 72 SP's instead of 96.

[ThoseBackPages]

I'm a bit shocked that nobody is talking about the huge changes in the product this year....

SP's are now 1:4 instead of 1:3......a hobby case will now get you only 72 SP's instead of 96.

its a great way to pump the print run!

[mfw13]

Cards starting to show up on EBay....

Chromes appear to be unnumbered for the first time ever, which would be a huge change (and likely indicative of a huge print run).

[PuddleMonkey]

Cards starting to show up on EBay....

INVEST!

[kyle1707]

I’m assuming a huge print run

But this is a massive over haul of this product
Which I agree it needed

The last 5 years opening boxes and getting 8 sps 8 inserts and a Jersey card was just so insanely boring for half the boxes

[DarcyWinston]

Curious what people will be selling master sets for given the huge new insert sets.

[BlowoutBuzz]

A boatload of images here >> https://www.blowoutcards.com/blog/first-buzz-2025-topps-heritage-baseball-cards/

[premium1981]

Not much beats the on card triple autographs from Heritage.

[njsportscardguy]

https://i.imgur.com/VJIEybC.jpeg

Paulie must've signed this one, with invisible ink! :p:)!

[mfw13]

I’m assuming a huge print run

But this is a massive over haul of this product
Which I agree it needed

The last 5 years opening boxes and getting 8 sps 8 inserts and a Jersey card was just so insanely boring for half the boxes

Yep....now you get only 6 SP's and the Chromes are now un-numbered so that they can be printed to the moon.....

[ThoseBackPages]

retail should get unlimited printing

[Osfan81]

I just got my shipping notification for my hobby box. Also, what’s up with the cut autos in this? Washington and Hancock seem to be a little high end for Heritage. Is it just bc they’re using the 76 design? Or is it bc the rookie class is weak, so they’re trying to put a few more lottery tix in to create more “hype?” I can go either way on it or more likely, a combination of both.

[dodgerfanjohn]

I just got my shipping notification for my hobby box. Also, what’s up with the cut autos in this? Washington and Hancock seem to be a little high end for Heritage. Is it just bc they’re using the 76 design? Or is it bc the rookie class is weak, so they’re trying to put a few more lottery tix in to create more “hype?” I can go either way on it or more likely, a combination of both.

Theyve always had huge names in the cut autos. I’m too lazy to look it up right now, but if someone copied and pasted the cut auto checklists from the past 10 years your mind would probably be blown.

[mikejones]

Cards starting to show up on EBay....

Chromes appear to be unnumbered for the first time ever, which would be a huge change (and likely indicative of a huge print run).

Looks like base refractors are also unnumbered too.

[mfw13]

Looks like base refractors are also unnumbered too.

So neither the Chromes or Chrome Refractors are numbered......makes you wonder how huge the print run will be..

Fanatics following their formula of making products more attractive to breakers by loading them with tons of low-value so-called "hits".

Combine the fact that the Chromes are now a 500-card set instead of the traditional 100-card set, along with the fact that they are now unnumbered, and you've pretty much killed the market for them.

[mfw13]

Also worth noting that there are currently 8800+ 2025 Topps Heritage listings on EBay containing the word "break".....for anybody who thinks that breakers aren't interested in Heritage.

[Americards]

Also worth noting that there are currently 8800+ 2025 Topps Heritage listings on EBay containing the word "break".....for anybody who thinks that breakers aren't interested in Heritage.
how many are shipping paper by the team?

[ThoseBackPages]

Breakers will break what they are told to break

[auctionjmm]

how many are shipping paper by the team?

All of them. It's Heritage. Base paper makes up the majority of the cards and over half the value of the case. It's not a product where base can be tossed aside.

[13CardinalsFan]

All of them. It's Heritage. Base paper makes up the majority of the cards and over half the value of the case. It's not a product where base can be tossed aside.

This is not a true statement. I checked 3 breakers and 2 of the 3 are not shipping all cards.

[ThoseBackPages]

This is not a true statement. I checked 3 breakers and 2 of the 3 are not shipping all cards.

thats extra greedy! haha

[Skipscards]

This is not a true statement. I checked 3 breakers and 2 of the 3 are not shipping all cards.

I've participated in a lot of Heritage breaks over the years and would never buy into one who didn't ship all cards. Just the possibility of them missing hits is enough to pass on those breakers.

[Skipscards]

It's funny, but it feels like they are going from one of the greatest Heritage releases in years (1975 regular and mini) to what may end up being one of the worst in history.

[ThoseBackPages]

I've participated in a lot of Heritage breaks over the years and would never buy into one who didn't ship all cards. Just the possibility of them missing hits is enough to pass on those breakers.

"missing" ::wink wink::

[Skipscards]

"missing" ::wink wink::

HAHAHA! True. I was more talking about SPs and the hits that aren't actually named on the back like the city swaps from 2024. But yeah, intentional misses are another reason not to trust those breakers.

[Osfan81]

Theyve always had huge names in the cut autos. I’m too lazy to look it up right now, but if someone copied and pasted the cut auto checklists from the past 10 years your mind would probably be blown.

I just looked through the last 5 years, and the names haven't been that great to be honest. Best I could see was maybe John Lennon and Elvis. Biggest name from a president was Harry Truman or Richard Nixon, but neither has the rarity factor of Washington.

[mfw13]

It's funny, but it feels like they are going from one of the greatest Heritage releases in years (1975 regular and mini) to what may end up being one of the worst in history.

1975 is an iconic design, but 1976 is fairly popular as well due to how colorful the design is.

But Fanatics has screwed the 2025 Heritage release up on so many levels....

1) Falling so far behind schedule that 2024 HHN gets released less than a month before 2025 Heritage

2) Majorly revamping the inserts by replacing NAP, Then & Now, and Flashbacks

3) Changing the SP odds from 1:3 to 1:4, making it all that much harder and more expensive for collectors to complete their sets

4) Getting rid of boxtoppers (which added about $100 in value to hobby cases)

5) Getting rid of throwbacks and minis

[DarcyWinston]

1975 is an iconic design, but 1976 is fairly popular as well due to how colorful the design is.

But Fanatics has screwed the 2025 Heritage release up on so many levels....

1) Falling so far behind schedule that 2024 HHN gets released less than a month before 2025 Heritage

2) Majorly revamping the inserts by replacing NAP, Then & Now, and Flashbacks

3) Changing the SP odds from 1:3 to 1:4, making it all that much harder and more expensive for collectors to complete their sets

4) Getting rid of boxtoppers (which added about $100 in value to hobby cases)

5) Getting rid of throwbacks and minis

And coins and stamps don’t forget about those.

[Osfan81]

1975 is an iconic design, but 1976 is fairly popular as well due to how colorful the design is.

But Fanatics has screwed the 2025 Heritage release up on so many levels....

1) Falling so far behind schedule that 2024 HHN gets released less than a month before 2025 Heritage

2) Majorly revamping the inserts by replacing NAP, Then & Now, and Flashbacks

3) Changing the SP odds from 1:3 to 1:4, making it all that much harder and more expensive for collectors to complete their sets

4) Getting rid of boxtoppers (which added about $100 in value to hobby cases)

5) Getting rid of throwbacks and minis

Sounds like what they did was make it easier to mass produce and to make it cheaper yet charge more. It’s pretty typical of fanatics.

[PeteD]

Another yr without horizontal base cards...big + for me.

[Jblaw1]

What is the 1955 Topps Bobby Witt card supposed to be?

[GoGoSox60]

What is the 1955 Topps Bobby Witt card supposed to be?

Saluting every year of Topps. I’m assuming starting 1952.

[mikejones]

So neither the Chromes or Chrome Refractors are numbered......makes you wonder how huge the print run will be..

Fanatics following their formula of making products more attractive to breakers by loading them with tons of low-value so-called "hits".

Combine the fact that the Chromes are now a 500-card set instead of the traditional 100-card set, along with the fact that they are now unnumbered, and you've pretty much killed the market for them.

So the superfractor won't be stamped 1/1. If so, this is the dumbest thing topps has done.

Edit: looks like blacks and lower are numbered. I see a judge orange to /25.

Edit: looks like relics aren't numbered too.

[MotorboatJones]

1975 is an iconic design, but 1976 is fairly popular as well due to how colorful the design is.

But Fanatics has screwed the 2025 Heritage release up on so many levels....

1) Falling so far behind schedule that 2024 HHN gets released less than a month before 2025 Heritage

2) Majorly revamping the inserts by replacing NAP, Then & Now, and Flashbacks

3) Changing the SP odds from 1:3 to 1:4, making it all that much harder and more expensive for collectors to complete their sets

4) Getting rid of boxtoppers (which added about $100 in value to hobby cases)

5) Getting rid of throwbacks and minis

Frankly, I am glad they revamped the inserts. I’m honestly sick of Flashbacks, Then and Now and New Age Performers.

No Boxtopper is kinda sad, but they have inserted Stamped buybacks randomly into packs, so that’s kinda cool.

[MotorboatJones]

So the superfractor won't be stamped 1/1. If so, this is the dumbest thing topps has done.

Edit: looks like blacks and lower are numbered. I see a judge orange to /25.

Edit: looks like relics aren't numbered too.

Only the Chrome base and the Chrome refractors are not numbered. Lower print run stuff is all numbered for Chrome, including blue chrome /150.

Relics have generally never been numbered. They have made some gold relics that were hand numbered /99, but generally no number on a relic is standard.

[Skipscards]

1975 is an iconic design, but 1976 is fairly popular as well due to how colorful the design is.

But Fanatics has screwed the 2025 Heritage release up on so many levels....

1) Falling so far behind schedule that 2024 HHN gets released less than a month before 2025 Heritage

2) Majorly revamping the inserts by replacing NAP, Then & Now, and Flashbacks

3) Changing the SP odds from 1:3 to 1:4, making it all that much harder and more expensive for collectors to complete their sets

4) Getting rid of boxtoppers (which added about $100 in value to hobby cases)

5) Getting rid of throwbacks and minis

Sorry, I didn’t mean 75 vs 76 I meant how well they executed low number and mini specifically vs 2025. Everything you listed here.

[DarcyWinston]

If you’re going to completely revamp the product, jack up the price, and remove a lot of things people collect, why keep the clubhouse collection relics? That’s probably the least popular box “hit” of any product. Make relics desirable again.

[MotorboatJones]

Bat Flip variations refer to the bat on the back of the card that has the number inside a baseball attached to it being flipped over on the back so that the number is located at the bottom left of the back of the card rather than on the top left as on regular cards.

[auctionjmm]

This is not a true statement. I checked 3 breakers and 2 of the 3 are not shipping all cards.

I looked at the first 10 or so breakers under "Best Match" and all were shipping base so if you found two deeper in the search results then I'd say stay away from those 2 because most are shipping them.

[Americards]

I looked at the first 10 or so breakers under "Best Match" and all were shipping base so if you found two deeper in the search results then I'd say stay away from those 2 because most are shipping them.
They seem to be shipping base more in this product than in previous products...
These guys are not selling paper base for 25 Heritage (yet)
Doesn't seem they are selling multiple case breaks of 25 Heritage


Here is what they sold in the last 90 days
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dkr=1&iconV2Request=true&_blrs=recall_filtering&_ssn=hobby_legends&store_name=hobbylegendsstore&_oac=1&_nkw=lot+of+paper&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

[PoPCulture]

They seem to be shipping base more in this product than in previous products...
These guys are not selling paper base for 25 Heritage (yet)
Doesn't seem they are selling multiple case breaks of 25 Heritage


Here is what they sold in the last 90 days
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dkr=1&iconV2Request=true&_blrs=recall_filtering&_ssn=hobby_legends&store_name=hobbylegendsstore&_oac=1&_nkw=lot+of+paper&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

Yeah, that company always ships paper base to the player or team spot if the break is under 5 cases (3-case breaks seem to be their sweet spot).

For Any player break of 5-cases or more, they will sell paper base in 5-Case lots.

[mfw13]

No Boxtopper is kinda sad, but they have inserted Stamped buybacks randomly into packs, so that’s kinda cool.

The thing I loved about the boxtoppers was that they used a different image of the HOFers than in their original card....for example, last year's Low Number Brett & Ryan boxtoppers have far better images than their original 1975 cards.

[13CardinalsFan]

I have opened 3 hobby boxes and all 3 had 8 short prints per box. Looks like odds are wrong.

[MotorboatJones]

I have opened 3 hobby boxes and all 3 had 8 short prints per box. Looks like odds are wrong.

Niiiiice ! :D:D:)!

[mfw13]

I have opened 3 hobby boxes and all 3 had 8 short prints per box. Looks like odds are wrong.

Can anybody else verify?

[13CardinalsFan]

Can anybody else verify?

I watched other people opening that had 8 also. Just thought I would relay the information.

I guess you just enjoy being a jerk.

[WillBBC]

I love the black refractors as always but man they are making Heritage feel much more like Archives, can’t stand what Fanatics is doing but whatever

[ScooterD]

I love the black refractors as always but man they are making Heritage feel much more like Archives, can’t stand what Fanatics is doing but whatever

Any opinions on the QC of the card conditions?

[13CardinalsFan]

Any opinions on the QC of the card conditions?

Centering is all over the place on the base and the chrome. Also ragged edges on some of the base. QC is poor in my opinion

[mfw13]

I watched other people opening that had 8 also. Just thought I would relay the information.

I guess you just enjoy being a jerk.

????

I wasn't questioning you.....I was trying to figure out whether your boxes were an outlier (since Fanatics has had many documented screw-ups in their packing out process) by asking if anybody else had also received 8 SP's per box.

No need to call me a jerk for asking a reasonable question....

[Rooftop]

I watched other people opening that had 8 also. Just thought I would relay the information.

I guess you just enjoy being a jerk.

D bag

[mfw13]

Happy release day everyone!

It should be noted that according to both anecdotal evidence and a trusted source, the SP odds posted on Topps website are incorrect.....hobby SP's are 1:3, not 1:4, and hangers are 1:1, not 1:2.

[Mightymango]

Happy release day everyone!

It should be noted that according to both anecdotal evidence and a trusted source, the SP odds posted on Topps website are incorrect.....hobby SP's are 1:3, not 1:4, and hangers are 1:1, not 1:2.

That is great news. Looking forward to ripping into mine when I get home today.

[akabruno]

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[mikejones]

Happy release day everyone!

It should be noted that according to both anecdotal evidence and a trusted source, the SP odds posted on Topps website are incorrect.....hobby SP's are 1:3, not 1:4, and hangers are 1:1, not 1:2.

And back in stock after it supposedly sold out during Pre-sale for 119.99. Lol.

[Rooftop]

And back in stock after it supposedly sold out during Pre-sale for 119.99. Lol.

Shocking..

[Rooftop]

Topps screwed the pooch by not making Johnny Bench's iconic 76 card an auto..

[MotorboatJones]

And back in stock after it supposedly sold out during Pre-sale for 119.99. Lol.

They often do presales at a lower price ($109.99 in this case), followed by more being available on release day at a higher price ($119.99 today). This is nothing new at all. They make a more limited amount available during presale at the lower price and hold some back for release day.

[parkerj33]

I have cracked boxes of every type on this so far. Some info to share:

1. Relics ARE numbered if they are gold. Dual relics are NOT numbered unless they are GOLD duals.

2. Some hangers have sps 1:1. (SE version). the EA version is 1:2. I only opened SE version. the EA versions are the ones that have the price on the front and likely are sold in target/walmart etc.

3. All hobby cases i have opened have sps 1:3. Blasters and megas have sps 1:4. fats are 1:3.

4. regular chrome and refractor chrome are NOT numbered. I personally welcome this as it frees them up to include a lot more - which they did - in all formats!

5. all colored chrome are numbered. Sadly, purples are gone.

6. the per-format chrome (sparkle colors) are NOT numbered. Again, this frees them up to seed them pretty heavily.

7. the color border cards for each format are also NOT numbered. But i would assume that the hobby blacks are still /50. The hobby blue are plentiful and unnumbered.

8. holographic foil flavors of all ineserts is a nice touch.

9. I personally really enjoy all the changes they made, a lot of nice stuff opening these packs. And for me its great they have something unique in each retail flavor, but i am admittedly biased.

10. Hobby autos are rare... i think i only got 2 and 3 from each of the 2 cases i have opened so far.....but i may have not kept track well.

11. the buybacks are still included they are just inserted into packs...not as a box topper.

12. Insert sets are going to be RARE. but i like the new inserts much better for a change of pace.

13. Every pack has something besides base....dead packs are hopefully a thing of the past.

14. I don't have a huge sample size yet, but i have seen 2 autos in a blaster case....and at least one auto in each fat and hanger and mega case i opened.

[Cardsareus84]

The black border Heritage 25th anniversary looks identical to Topps Archives black border. I was watching Stryker open a hobby and I couldn't even tell the difference.

[bustsomewax]

I have cracked boxes of every type on this so far. Some info to share:

1. Relics ARE numbered if they are gold. Dual relics are NOT numbered unless they are GOLD duals.

2. Some hangers have sps 1:1. (SE version). the EA version is 1:2. I only opened SE version. the EA versions are the ones that have the price on the front and likely are sold in target/walmart etc.

3. All hobby cases i have opened have sps 1:3. Blasters and megas have sps 1:4. fats are 1:3.

4. regular chrome and refractor chrome are NOT numbered. I personally welcome this as it frees them up to include a lot more - which they did - in all formats!

5. all colored chrome below blue is numbered. gone are purples.

6. the per-format chrome (sparkle colors) are NOT numbered. Again, this frees them up to seed them pretty heavily.

7. the color border cards for each format are also NOT numbered. But i would assume that the hobby blacks are still /50. The hobby blue are plentiful and unnumbered.

8. holographic foil flavors of all ineserts is a nice touch.

9. I personally really enjoy all the changes they made, a lot of nice stuff opening these packs. And for me its great they have something unique in each retail flavor, but i am admittedly biased.

10. Hobby autos are rare... i think i only got 2 and 3 from each of the 2 cases i have opened so far.....but i may have not kept track well.

11. the buybacks are still included they are just inserted into packs...not as a box topper.

How many SP sets will you make out of your hobby cases?

[parkerj33]

i don't know...its 96 sps in a hobby case. the real issue is that the inserts are very tough.

[kyle1707]

My cases arrive today. And I have not really paid any attention to inserts

But looks like master sets will be much more difficult to make ?

I like all the changes though to be honest. I was really getting bored last few years

So I’m up for it

[PDCCollectibles]

Topps screwed the pooch by not making Johnny Bench's iconic 76 card an auto..

....and they could have done a remake with a current player depicting the Kurt Bevacqua Bubble Gum Blowing Champ card ;)

[dodgerfanjohn]

I have cracked boxes of every type on this so far. Some info to share:



Thank you for sharing this!

[bustsomewax]

i don't know...its 96 sps in a hobby case. the real issue is that the inserts are very tough.

Yeah, you can kiss Master Sets goodbye. Takes a stupid amount of cases.

[mfw13]

Topps screwed the pooch by not making Johnny Bench's iconic 76 card an auto..

Bench is on the auto checklist.....

[ThoseBackPages]

Topps screwed the pooch by not making Johnny Bench's iconic 76 card an auto..

....and they could have done a remake with a current player depicting the Kurt Bevacqua Bubble Gum Blowing Champ card ;)

you guys think that the fanatics employees know what you are talking about?

[Cardsareus84]

Topps screwed the pooch by not making Johnny Bench's iconic 76 card an auto..

The one where there is like 15 or something PSA 10s?

[mfw13]

So....my mega case arrived a half an hour ago and I've opened the first box.

What was a bit strange was that although I received my expected quantity of "hits", they were NOT one per pack. I had several "dead" packs, with no hits, and several packs with two "hits". And all the packs with two hits had nine cards total, instead of eight.

[bustsomewax]

Looking at the odds, it seems like Blasters might be a decent way to go for the price?

2 Autos per case is on par with a Hobby case in some cases.

[PDCCollectibles]

you guys think that the fanatics employees know what you are talking about?

Thanks Fanatics! :)

[dodgerfanjohn]

So....my mega case arrived a half an hour ago and I've opened the first box.

What was a bit strange was that although I received my expected quantity of "hits", they were NOT one per pack. I had several "dead" packs, with no hits, and several packs with two "hits". And all the packs with two hits had nine cards total, instead of eight.

Been an issue of mispacks with Heritage since at least 2021.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1458634

[glassnickels]

Opened my single hobby box from presale. Pulled a Cowser auto and Carroll relic. Also pulled Lindor orange chrome /25 and Mayo blue chrome /150. Seemed like a chrome and/or color border in nearly every pack. At least every pack without an sp i think.

Edit: 8 blue border, 8 light blue chrome, 6 chrome, 2 refractor, 2 color chrome, 1 buyback, 4 inserts, 1 auto, 1 relic. This seems like a lot. I'm used to 1 napkin relic, a bunch of inserts, and maybe a var. As a set builder this obviously makes that harder but don't think I mind

[DarcyWinston]

Opened my single hobby box from presale. Pulled a Cowser auto and Carroll relic. Also pulled Lindor orange chrome /25 and Mayo blue chrome /150. Seemed like a chrome and/or color border in nearly every pack. At least every pack without an sp i think.

Edit: 8 blue border, 8 light blue chrome, 6 chrome, 2 refractor, 2 color chrome, 1 buyback, 4 inserts, 1 auto, 1 relic. This seems like a lot. I'm used to 1 napkin relic, a bunch of inserts, and maybe a var. As a set builder this obviously makes that harder but don't think I mind

My box was similar. Since purple hot boxes are now gone, I think blue hot boxes (8 base 8 sparkle) replaced them. But just a guess at this point.

[ZappBrannigan]

I have cracked boxes of every type on this so far. Some info to share:

1. Relics ARE numbered if they are gold. Dual relics are NOT numbered unless they are GOLD duals.

2. Some hangers have sps 1:1. (SE version). the EA version is 1:2. I only opened SE version. the EA versions are the ones that have the price on the front and likely are sold in target/walmart etc.

3. All hobby cases i have opened have sps 1:3. Blasters and megas have sps 1:4. fats are 1:3.

4. regular chrome and refractor chrome are NOT numbered. I personally welcome this as it frees them up to include a lot more - which they did - in all formats!

5. all colored chrome are numbered. Sadly, purples are gone.

6. the per-format chrome (sparkle colors) are NOT numbered. Again, this frees them up to seed them pretty heavily.

7. the color border cards for each format are also NOT numbered. But i would assume that the hobby blacks are still /50. The hobby blue are plentiful and unnumbered.

8. holographic foil flavors of all ineserts is a nice touch.

9. I personally really enjoy all the changes they made, a lot of nice stuff opening these packs. And for me its great they have something unique in each retail flavor, but i am admittedly biased.

10. Hobby autos are rare... i think i only got 2 and 3 from each of the 2 cases i have opened so far.....but i may have not kept track well.

11. the buybacks are still included they are just inserted into packs...not as a box topper.

12. Insert sets are going to be RARE. but i like the new inserts much better for a change of pace.

13. Every pack has something besides base....dead packs are hopefully a thing of the past.

14. I don't have a huge sample size yet, but i have seen 2 autos in a blaster case....and at least one auto in each fat and hanger and mega case i opened.

So its still 98% worthless?

[ethan2430]

Heritage has always been my favorite box to open each year. Priced well and very collectible. Was blown away when I saw the price jump with '24 Update but figured it was coming with Fanatics [did well though, pulled a B&W Skenes out of a blaster]. Got two boxes of '25 Heritage for about $125/box. Opened the first box and REALLY enjoyed it [granted I pulled a "monster" of an auto] but I really like the variation so far [noticed this with '24 update as well]. Every pack had something and the quality of the cards seemed better. Here are the results:

7 dark blue, 8 blue sparkle chrome, 6 chrome, 2 chrome refractor, 1 black chrome /76, 4 inserts [1 being a through the years foil], 1 bicentennial /200 and the biggie - Jackson Jobe Gold Chrome Auto /50 (1:11,521)

Hopefully box 2 is half as good lol

Question [apologies if this has already been addressed] - is there a quick way to spot variations like in the past? Code difference on the bottom/written on the back where you need a magnifying glass to read it?

[bd3d86]

Got my case in from Topps. First pack….superfractor. :flex: I haven’t looked at the card yet since I’m saving it for my boys after the baseball game. Hopefully a big one and I’ll update tonight. :)

[Picklepete]

Ok... I have a question.
I have CRVO ( CENTRAL RETINAL VEIN OCCLUSION) in my left eye.
Basically the vain leading to the eyeball burst, so now my vision is all blurry in my left eye.
So with all the recent releases in today's baseball card market that has image variations color swaps etc etc is there any site that gives visual samples of card variations and where to look for the coding or whatever ?
It's very hard for me to read even with a magnifying glass, the back's on some of these gray cardboard stock cards.
Does anybody list picture samples of variations ?
Thx.

[NYRE2PECT]

Ok... I have a question.
I have CRVO ( CENTRAL RETINAL VEIN OCCLUSION) in my left eye.
Basically the vain leading to the eyeball burst, so now my vision is all blurry in my left eye.
So with all the recent releases in today's baseball card market that has image variations color swaps etc etc is there any site that gives visual samples of card variations and where to look for the coding or whatever ?
It's very hard for me to read even with a magnifying glass, the back's on some of these gray cardboard stock cards.
Does anybody list picture samples of variations ?
Thx.

Pete, that sounds awful.

I have two perfectly decent eyeballs (with glasses) and I have a hard time telling the difference with Heritage. To me, it is one of the more complicated releases out there.

[mfw13]

Ok... I have a question.
I have CRVO ( CENTRAL RETINAL VEIN OCCLUSION) in my left eye.
Basically the vain leading to the eyeball burst, so now my vision is all blurry in my left eye.
So with all the recent releases in today's baseball card market that has image variations color swaps etc etc is there any site that gives visual samples of card variations and where to look for the coding or whatever ?
It's very hard for me to read even with a magnifying glass, the back's on some of these gray cardboard stock cards.
Does anybody list picture samples of variations ?
Thx.

Beckett sometimes does....Cardboard Connection used to.