Won a PC card (2009-10 Classics Stephen Curry RC Auto) and seller immediately cancels

[eastbayak]

I placed the sole bid on a 2009-10 Panini Classics Stephen Curry RC Auto /499 BGS 8.5 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/227124361487) auction listing via eBay and won but the seller (SMR Collectibles) immediately cancelled the order.

Pretty frustrating experience as I had been watching the card for the past week and ultimately just wasted my time. It was meant for the PC too. I actually watched its prior auction listings go unsold multiple times (each time, the seller knocked off $500 and relisted the auctions; this time, only knocked off $200 from the most-recent auction listing that ended).

The seller sent me a message saying that it was cancelled because the card was no longer available (unsure if it's true or if they feel that they undersold it despite it not selling the past times and I was the only bid for this auction).

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Anyway, if you're targeting any basketball PC cards, be sure to save yourself some headache and block this seller: SMR Collectibles

[PuddleMonkey]

That sucks, I've won about a dozen auctions from them and have always gotten the card shipped. Including a couple I feel I 'stole'.

[hermanotarjeta]

That’s a shame.

[bas]

That's weird the exact same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago with a boulder opal I won, paid then seller refunded me and said they apologize but the item was already sold, I was spewing

[BoSoxFan1999]

SMR collectibles....they were at the Philly card show this past weekend and I swear I saw that exact card. Very possible they sold it at the show but weren't able to take down the eBay listing. Either way, that sucks man. But likely not a nefarious cancelled sale.

[nbahobbyaddict]

That's infuriating. Sorry that happened. Make sure to leave them a nice fat negative.

[johnscards]

SMR collectibles....they were at the Philly card show this past weekend and I swear I saw that exact card. Very possible they sold it at the show but weren't able to take down the eBay listing. Either way, that sucks man. But likely not a nefarious cancelled sale.

Respectfully, I don't buy this. Takes 5 seconds to end an eBay auction early. Only reason not to end it early is so they didn't have to pay the early cancellation fee. OP gets the raw end of the stick with this outcome.

[hermanotarjeta]

I bought a card at a show once and the dealer didn’t remove the eBay listing for three days. It happens all the time.

[hermanotarjeta]

I also paid over the going price for a card on eBay on a buy it now and the seller told me it sold at the shop but they immediately refunded my money. They said they forgot to remove the listing.

Unfortunately that happens on occasion as well.

The lesson I learned - you never actually purchased the card until it is actually in you possession. E-commerce is not perfect.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Respectfully, I don't buy this. Takes 5 seconds to end an eBay auction early. Only reason not to end it early is so they didn't have to pay the early cancellation fee. OP gets the raw end of the stick with this outcome.

Yeah, it's still not a great look for the seller, but I don't think it was a cancelled sale because the seller didn't like the auction result type deal. Now that I think harder, I 100% saw that card in the dealer's display because I specifically remember the 8.5/10 grade. IIRC the card was priced at $4.5k. He must have sold it in the last couple hours of the show, because I saw the card around 1PM yesterday and the show ended at 3.

[boxbuster7]

SMR collectibles....they were at the Philly card show this past weekend and I swear I saw that exact card. Very possible they sold it at the show but weren't able to take down the eBay listing. Either way, that sucks man. But likely not a nefarious cancelled sale.

for a card that big I don't buy it. loser move on their part.

[BoSoxFan1999]

for a card that big I don't buy it. loser move on their part.

Yeah, not defending the seller at all. Best case scenario for them, they were simply lazy or forgot to cancel the auction. Even if that's the case, that doesn't excuse them for leaving the auction up and probably deserve a negative feedback.

[jcardstore]

Respectfully, I don't buy this. Takes 5 seconds to end an eBay auction early. Only reason not to end it early is so they didn't have to pay the early cancellation fee. OP gets the raw end of the stick with this outcome.

I have no dog in this race I’m just saying it’s easy to not be thinking about your eBay listings when you’re at a show or move something offline.

It’s a plausible scenario.

[duwal]

I have no dog in this race I’m just saying it’s easy to not be thinking about your eBay listings when you’re at a show or move something offline.

It’s a plausible scenario.


there's also a possibility that they have different people for different tasks, some for the shows, others for online sales so there could have been a lack of communication in the business

[eastbayak]

That sucks, I've won about a dozen auctions from them and have always gotten the card shipped. Including a couple I feel I 'stole'.

That’s a shame.

That's infuriating. Sorry that happened. Make sure to leave them a nice fat negative.

Appreciate the kind words.

That's weird the exact same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago with a boulder opal I won, paid then seller refunded me and said they apologize but the item was already sold, I was spewing

Yeah, based on their feedback, it's something they commonly do. Pretty lame.

Respectfully, I don't buy this. Takes 5 seconds to end an eBay auction early. Only reason not to end it early is so they didn't have to pay the early cancellation fee. OP gets the raw end of the stick with this outcome.

Pretty much my thoughts. There were no bids until my "snipe" bid.

If they truly sold it before the auction ended, should've just checked their listings and cancelled the listing (no early cancellation fee for a 0-bid listing, right?).

for a card that big I don't buy it. loser move on their part.

Definitely lame.

I also paid over the going price for a card on eBay on a buy it now and the seller told me it sold at the shop but they immediately refunded my money. They said they forgot to remove the listing.

Unfortunately that happens on occasion as well.

The lesson I learned - you never actually purchased the card until it is actually in you possession. E-commerce is not perfect.

Yeah, it's still not a great look for the seller, but I don't think it was a cancelled sale because the seller didn't like the auction result type deal. Now that I think harder, I 100% saw that card in the dealer's display because I specifically remember the 8.5/10 grade. IIRC the card was priced at $4.5k. He must have sold it in the last couple hours of the show, because I saw the card around 1PM yesterday and the show ended at 3.

I have no dog in this race I’m just saying it’s easy to not be thinking about your eBay listings when you’re at a show or move something offline.

It’s a plausible scenario.

there's also a possibility that they have different people for different tasks, some for the shows, others for online sales so there could have been a lack of communication in the business

I just don't understand the logic of bringing cards to shows that you've actively listed as auctions (I mean, I know they prefer in-person sales as they'll net more for various reasons). But to me, it just displays a lack of business integrity (prioritizing making more vs. honoring sales). I'm sure they've cancelled other auctions with multiple bids (bids that were placed well before they sold whatever cards).

They clearly lack organization (and probably don't care) but there needs to be some accountable. This isn't a one-time scenario, they've done it multiple times (per input above and eBay feedback details).

[jcardstore]

Appreciate the kind words.



Yeah, based on their feedback, it's something they commonly do. Pretty lame.



Pretty much my thoughts. There were no bids until my "snipe" bid.

If they truly sold it before the auction ended, should've just checked their listings and cancelled the listing (no early cancellation fee for a 0-bid listing, right?).



Definitely lame.









I just don't understand the logic of bringing cards to shows that you've actively listed as auctions (I mean, I know they prefer in-person sales as they'll net more for various reasons). But to me, it just displays a lack of business integrity (prioritizing making more vs. honoring sales). I'm sure they've cancelled other auctions with multiple bids (bids that were placed well before they sold whatever cards).

They clearly lack organization (and probably don't care) but there needs to be some accountable. This isn't a one-time scenario, they've done it multiple times (per input above and eBay feedback details).

I mean I agree with you mostly but you and I both know eBay will never do anything about it

What should happen in this scenario? If they sold the card offline they can’t honor the sale, so best case is a refund.

[eastbayak]

I mean I agree with you mostly but you and I both know eBay will never do anything about it

What should happen in this scenario? If they sold the card offline they can’t honor the sale, so best case is a refund.

Haha, at this point, it's probably mostly venting.

But for excessive repeat offenders, eBay should (but won't) temporarily suspend such accounts.

Also, SMR collectibles should stop bringing cards that they've listed as auctions to card shows (or end the auction listings [only if they can, such as 0 bids] before making available in their showcase). It's really not that hard to do. If the card doesn't sell at the show, they can re-list the auction, etc.

[bub838]

The way they worded their message to you, "cancellation per your request"
and cancel reason "customer requested" are common with sellers flaking to protect themselves from negative feedback.

Did they relist the card? Give them a call and ask them, they have a phone number. https://www.smrcollectibles.com/

[boxbuster7]

they have no excuse if it was an auction. I first thought it was a buy it now. Makes zero sense.

[Chrominator]

I placed the sole bid on a 2009-10 Panini Classics Stephen Curry RC Auto /499 BGS 8.5 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/227124361487) auction listing via eBay and won but the seller (SMR Collectibles) immediately cancelled the order.

Did you tell them it was it for your PC?

[eastbayak]

The way they worded their message to you, "cancellation per your request"
and cancel reason "customer requested" are common with sellers flaking to protect themselves from negative feedback.

Did they relist the card? Give them a call and ask them, they have a phone number. https://www.smrcollectibles.com/

Oh man, I was so heated that I missed that little detail. Given that I never made such a request, I'm even more annoyed.

Hopefully, they don't relist it as it would at least validate the justification (no longer being available) they gave for reason why they cancelled the order. Only time will tell.

No point in calling them, nothing will change.

they have no excuse if it was an auction. I first thought it was a buy it now. Makes zero sense.

Exactly.

Did you tell them it was it for your PC?

I did not. Should I have or have not?

[Chrominator]

I did not. Should I have or have not?

I was just joking.

I'd be pissed about this as well, whether it was PC or not.

[Chrominator]

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"Why shop or sell your collections anywhere else?"

Well, I can think of one reason now :cry:

[eastbayak]

I was just joking.

I'd be pissed about this as well, whether it was PC or not.

Haha, I see.

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"Why shop or sell your collections anywhere else?"

Well, I can think of one reason now :cry:

LOL :cry:

[BoSoxFan1999]

It would have been really awkward if I had been the one to pick up that Curry at the show. LOL
I briefly thought about it, then went "Nah, I already have a Curry rookie auto, I'm good".

[JDF5244]

I'll never do business with those folks. Thanks for sharing so that now I (and others) know.

[49ersSF]

I just don't understand the logic of bringing cards to shows that you've actively listed as auctions (I mean, I know they prefer in-person sales as they'll net more for various reasons). But to me, it just displays a lack of business integrity (prioritizing making more vs. honoring sales). I'm sure they've cancelled other auctions with multiple bids (bids that were placed well before they sold whatever cards).

They clearly lack organization (and probably don't care) but there needs to be some accountable. This isn't a one-time scenario, they've done it multiple times (per input above and eBay feedback details).

I would guess that 90% of the high-end cards you see at a show are currently listed on eBay. It's very common. Generally, when I have bought a card that was listed, the seller will advise me that he has quickly gone on eBay and ended the listing. I do not see a problem if handled this way.

What I find really funny however, is when a seller tries to use his own card listed on eBay as a comp.

[Asian62150]

I would guess that 90% of the high-end cards you see at a show are currently listed on eBay. It's very common. Generally, when I have bought a card that was listed, the seller will advise me that he has quickly gone on eBay and ended the listing. I do not see a problem if handled this way.

What I find really funny however, is when a seller tries to use his own card listed on eBay as a comp.

If it's a BINBO, sure. But not for current auctions.

[pokemaniac]

"Per your request"..

What is the official reason (as shown on eBay) that the auction was canceled? Are they using the "buyer asked to cancel option" to circumvent account defects?

[PSA2Pac]

I had a Curry Topps Now Night Night blue /49 that was supposed to get signed at a sit-down and it disappeared/got lost in the shuffle.. gone.

My friend who was handling it is trying to find another to purchase for me but that cards only surfaced once in the past year

I say all that to say.. I feel your Curry pain, brother

[Bosoxfan5990]

"Per your request"..

What is the official reason (as shown on eBay) that the auction was canceled? Are they using the "buyer asked to cancel option" to circumvent account defects?

That's exactly what they're trying to do.

[Chrominator]

Cards For Less, LLC a.k.a. SMR Collectibles
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Steven Rosenblum. steve@smrcollectibles.com
Sports card shop buying and selling collections and memorabilia, with appointment-only service.
Address: 169a New Hwy, Amityville, NY 11701
Phone: (631) 532-5797

" We are located in Long Island, New York and aren't only willing to travel in New York and New Jersey, but Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Pennsylvania as well! For larger deals, we would fly to any of the 50 states and even Canada! "

[eastbayak]

It would have been really awkward if I had been the one to pick up that Curry at the show. LOL
I briefly thought about it, then went "Nah, I already have a Curry rookie auto, I'm good".

Haha, you bought it didn't you?!

I'll never do business with those folks. Thanks for sharing so that now I (and others) know.

No problem man, raising awareness of shady practices is what I'm about.

I would guess that 90% of the high-end cards you see at a show are currently listed on eBay. It's very common. Generally, when I have bought a card that was listed, the seller will advise me that he has quickly gone on eBay and ended the listing. I do not see a problem if handled this way.

What I find really funny however, is when a seller tries to use his own card listed on eBay as a comp.

If it's a BINBO, sure. But not for current auctions.

100%. No issues if it were a BINBO but it was a 7-day (max) auction. Basically, it shows that they don't intend to honor auction sales if they don't have to.

"Per your request"..

What is the official reason (as shown on eBay) that the auction was canceled? Are they using the "buyer asked to cancel option" to circumvent account defects?

That's exactly what they're trying to do.

I didn't see (or notice) the exact reason but it's probably as you deduced, to avoid account defects.

I had a Curry Topps Now Night Night blue /49 that was supposed to get signed at a sit-down and it disappeared/got lost in the shuffle.. gone.

My friend who was handling it is trying to find another to purchase for me but that cards only surfaced once in the past year

I say all that to say.. I feel your Curry pain, brother

Appreciate you, splash bro :(

[Asian62150]

OP, sorry this happened to you. Hope the hobby gets you back somehow for this misfortune.

[eastbayak]

OP, sorry this happened to you. Hope the hobby gets you back somehow for this misfortune.

Appreciate it brother! If someone has a 2009-10 Panini Classics/Crown Royale BGS 8-9 or PSA 8-8.5 available for sale, hit me up haha.

[pokemaniac]

Check your email for eBay's cancellation notification and/or the see details link (under Your order was canceled on..) on the order page. You should be able to find the exact reason the seller chose somewhere.

[eastbayak]

Check your email for eBay's cancellation notification and/or the see details link (under Your order was canceled on..) on the order page. You should be able to find the exact reason the seller chose somewhere.

They dishonestly claimed that I requested cancellation.

They also left me positive feedback for the "sale".

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[BoSoxFan1999]

They dishonestly claimed that I requested cancellation.

They also left me positive feedback for the "sale".

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No man, I swear I didn't pick up that Curry. :cry:

Also, sleazeball move by them. Neg feedback their ass!

[SCTV]

They dishonestly claimed that I requested cancellation.

They also left me positive feedback for the "sale".

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This is a terrible move by the seller.

[Chrominator]

Cards For Less, LLC a.k.a. SMR Collectibles
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Steven Rosenblum. steve@smrcollectibles.com
Sports card shop buying and selling collections and memorabilia, with appointment-only service.
Address: 169a New Hwy, Amityville, NY 11701
Phone: (631) 532-5797

" We are located in Long Island, New York and aren't only willing to travel in New York and New Jersey, but Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Pennsylvania as well! For larger deals, we would fly to any of the 50 states and even Canada! "

#cesspool



Also, what's up with the $71.60 for shipping??

[Chrominator]

It's been confirmed: Steve M. Rosenblum is a huge piece of 💩

[Asian62150]

It's a sad reflection of our society when someone's integrity can be had for the difference between OP's total and whatever Stevie ended up selling the Curry for. Maybe $200?

[pokemaniac]

They dishonestly claimed that I requested cancellation.

They also left me positive feedback for the "sale".

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As expected. I would absolutely call eBay, but then again, I'm petty. This loser won't stop unless he's held accountable, though.

[bmf]

It's been confirmed: Steve M. Rosenblum is a huge piece of 💩

This ^

It's a sad reflection of our society when someone's integrity can be had for the difference between OP's total and whatever Stevie ended up selling the Curry for. Maybe $200?

I doubt Steve's integrity is worth even the $200.

[eastbayak]

No man, I swear I didn't pick up that Curry. :cry:

Also, sleazeball move by them. Neg feedback their ass!

Haha, even if you did, I couldn't fault you. You wouldn't have known it was in an active eBay listing!

Neg left!

This is a terrible move by the seller.

100%

#cesspool



Also, what's up with the $71.60 for shipping??

No clue, probably trying to pocket extra $.

It's been confirmed: Steve M. Rosenblum is a huge piece of 💩

💩💩💩

It's a sad reflection of our society when someone's integrity can be had for the difference between OP's total and whatever Stevie ended up selling the Curry for. Maybe $200?

I would've paid $200 more too :(

As expected. I would absolutely call eBay, but then again, I'm petty. This loser won't stop unless he's held accountable, though.

I reported an issue with the order and left negative feedback, all that I can really do.

This ^



I doubt Steve's integrity is worth even the $200.

Man, state of hobby has changed a lot over the years.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Slight segue, but $799 fir Curry to sign non rookie cards and $1,499 for rookies?? Holy schnikes!
https://powerssportsmemorabilia.com/products/stephen-curry-autograph-signing?fbclid=Iwb21leAO5EmhjbGNrA7kSZWV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHtBDrlPeG6y1RDmmV9i6PhsFJk7D7U5xrT2Z-L7Ke1EVzoimtUkMHgGv9Hud_aem_XfHIvLFKe9RmV5fnrJcOJw&pb=0

[PSA2Pac]

He’s priced accordingly

Players of his stature usually don’t do sit-downs for you to send in personal items

He’s done a couple and they’ve went up every time, which is par for the course

His market is way up the past year so, these prices are to be expected

[eastbayak]

Seems like SMR had my negative feedback removed from eBay so I’ll just have to bump this thread daily.

[rnocards]

Seems like SMR had my negative feedback removed from eBay so I’ll just have to bump this thread daily.

You should prolly open an eBay support ticket, and fully explain to eBay that SMR lied and deserves the negative feedback.

[eastbayak]

You should prolly open an eBay support ticket, and fully explain to eBay that SMR lied and deserves the negative feedback.

Seeing that SMR had my feedback removed AND they continue to engage in such practice (another feedback about order cancellation since mine) tells me that eBay doesn't care.

eBay probably willing to ignore the issue because of all the money they get from SMR's sales (via fees).

But it's definitely shady that they could have such feedback removed.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Seems like SMR had my negative feedback removed from eBay so I’ll just have to bump this thread daily.

What a bunch of d1cks.