Kipnis, Pomeranz and Wilson for Ubaldo

[mgugs46]

Thats the latest rumor. Pomeranz pulled from his start.

Terrible deal IMO for the Indians.

[coltsfan23]

Yeah, that'd be an incredibly bad deal for the Indians. My Pomeranz stash would hate for that deal to happen as well.

[mgugs46]

Makes zero sense for Indians. They have a zero pct chance at winning the al even with ubaldo.

[mgugs46]

Alex White also scratched from rehab start. Looks like it's going down. I can't believe the indians are this dumb.

[GoTribe!!!]

I hope this doesn't happen. If White is involved, I have a few available if any Colorado fans want them.

[mgugs46]

Ubaldo scratched. Wow.

[pkscards]

What an awful trade for the Indians. Absolutely terrible.

Why do teams think Jimenez any good. He's been nothing more than awful for the last year since that ridiculous start of last year.

[cj52racers]

Hahah, the Indians are a joke. This is a stupid trade.

[gunshowboy]

just picked up a pomeranz bc auto 9.5 today if any rockies fan would like it or any indian fan for that matter,. id even sell it to a yankee fan

[avjp87]

Why is this happening? Terrible deal.

[tehchamp]

What an awful trade for the Indians. Absolutely terrible.

Why do teams think Jimenez any good. He's been nothing more than awful for the last year since that ridiculous start of last year.

Seriously? He's been awful? lol
He's a fantastic pitcher that just needs to get his command straightened out.
Even after his ridiculous start last year he was pitching very well, just never got the run support.

[mgugs46]

Looks like Kipnis may be out of deal. Matt McBride instead. Kipnis still playing. McBride pulled.

[Zacky1053]

Seriously? He's been awful? lol
He's a fantastic pitcher that just needs to get his command straightened out.
Even after his ridiculous start last year he was pitching very well, just never got the run support.

Yeah, Jimenez was horrible in April/May but has been pretty solid since.

[Jmilly]

Pomeranz will be a PTBNL as he is not eligible to be traded until August 15th, 2011.

[mgugs46]

Pomeranz was eligible June 1 to be traded I believe.

[jayjay0122]

The Indians GM should be fired if this trade happens. Makes zero sense for the Indians.

[tehchamp]

So can someone give me a rundown on how good White, Pomeranz and McBride really are?

[avjp87]

trade is complete. Ubaldo was scratched from his start tonight

[gunshowboy]

trade is complete. Ubaldo was scratched from his start tonight

i hope i was playing him in fantasy baseball this week :eek:

[IamRalpho]

Ubaldo Jimenez has been traded from the Rockies to the Indians for pitching prospects Drew Pomeranz and Alex White and first base prospect Matt McBride, according to the Denver Post's Troy Renck.

[IamRalpho]

This isnt a terrible deal, especially if Ubaldo isnt hurt. Some people think Pomeranz isnt an ace and White is a reliever

[BroncosFAN#1]

Rockies are stupid as hell for doing this

[ckcardz]

He hasnt been awful for most of his last like 8-10 starts. Sure hasnt won all them but still pItched well. I like ubaldo alot being a rockies fan.

WATCHING THE ROCKIES GAME, UBALDO WILL BE STARTING TONOGHT AS OF NOW

[BroncosFAN#1]

Ubaldo is taking the hill according to what they just said on the pregame

[ckcardz]

Rockies are stupid as hell for doing this

You and me man. We both dont want to see him go from what it sounds like.

[mgugs46]

Ubaldo starting - deal not done yet - Red Sox supposedly still trying to work deal

[Jmilly]

Pomeranz was eligible June 1 to be traded I believe.

Draftees are not allowed to be traded til exactly one year after they sign. Pomeranz signed August 15th of last year.

[mgugs46]

August 16th for him actually. You were right though. I was thinking of something else entirely.

[Jhollywood]

Man what a PR nightmare this will be, everyone in Colorado is gonna be pissed. I was really hoping to see a starting line up next year of Jimenez, De la Rosa, Chacin, Nicasio, ?

[mgugs46]

Sox making a last second push for Ubaldo. Lars Anderson was just pulled from his game, though I doubt he'd be anything more than a 4th name in the trade.

[zaccheus85]

The Rockies owners would be idiots to trade Ubaldo. Granted he hasn't been lights-out the past year, like he was before the All-Star Break last year, but the guy is still one of the best pitchers ever to wear a Rockies Uniform.
As a Rockies fan, here are a few reasons NOT to trade Ubaldo:
1. He wants to pitch for the Rockies (Ubaldo Jimenez wants to finish his career with the Rockies | HardballTalk (http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/18/ubaldo-jimenez-wants-to-finish-his-career-with-the-rockies/))
2. He is good pitching in Denver (30-19, 3.67 ERA @ Coors Field)
3. He is getting paid entirely less than he is really worth ($2.8 million this year)
4. He is a fan favorite (but then again when did the Rockies owners card about that).

[colby2611]

i would give them anderson in a heart beat. if the sox pull this off middlebrooke had to be in it. i really like this kid.

[mgugs46]

Id guess Weiland, Middlebrooks, Lavarnway and Lars or some other 4th.

[tehchamp]

Red Sox can't match anybody else has to offer.
Ubaldo IS warming up and the starter tonight I've heard.

[gman71]

Ubaldo Jimenez has been traded from the Rockies to the Indians for pitching prospects Drew Pomeranz and Alex White and first base prospect Matt McBride, according to the Denver Post's Troy Renck.
Ubaldo, 27, has registered a 4.20 ERA and 1.34 WHIP in 20 starts this season. Jimenez is under contract through 2014 at a reasonable rate. All three Indians prospects were scratched from Saturday's game for Double-A Akron. Pomeranz, a 2010 first-round pick and the Indians top prospect, is the prize of the deal. He had a 1.87 ERA and 95/32 K/BB ratio over 77 innings for High-A Kingston before his promotion earlier this month and a 2.57 ERA over three starts at Double-A. Pomeranz might be ready for the big leagues at some point during the 2012 season. White, selected 15th overall in 2009, had a 3.60 ERA and 13/9 K/BB ratio over 15 innings in the majors before he hit the disabled list with a finger injury. McBride is 26 and has just an .811 career OPS in 2,342 games.

[gunshowboy]

looks like bryce brentz...

[BroncosFAN#1]

The Rockies just better not do it. He isnt a FA until 2014 so why would they do this now. Hes been pitching fine the last couple months. He pitched April with an injury. DONT DO IT ROCKIES

[colby2611]

wow if they do bryce brentz, Middlebrooks,Lavarnway. i don't know if i would do that. that really hurts their future. i think thats a lot.

[gunshowboy]

yanks throwing montero/betances in the mix now

[gunshowboy]

wow if they do bryce brentz, Middlebrooks,Lavarnway. i don't know if i would do that. that really hurts their future. i think thats a lot.

dont trust this guy

<---- he just likes starting rumors :D

[IamRalpho]

where you hearing Brentz?

Ubaldo is pitching, so I dunno how they do this now

[colby2611]

i would be surprised if it wasn't raunado. sorry i can't think of to spell his name. i know he has been really light up . but they are really high on him to

[gunshowboy]

where you hearing Brentz?

Ubaldo is pitching, so I dunno how they do this now

it was a joke becauase people just start throwing names up like they have a clue what they are talking about so figured id throw some up:D

[BroncosFAN#1]

Esmil Rogers is warming up in the bullpen so Ubaldo will pitch a tiny bit Im guessing and then bye. What a dumbass move Dan Odowd

[natbornkiller]

Draftees are not allowed to be traded til exactly one year after they sign. Pomeranz signed August 15th of last year.

but they still be traded as players to be named later

[ckcardz]

Esmil Rogers is warming up in the bullpen so Ubaldo will pitch a tiny bit Im guessing and then bye. What a dumbass move Dan Odowd

This ruins my day. He was my favorite player and still will be even on the indians but i never wanted to see him leave

[zaccheus85]

What a dumbass move Dan Odowd

Anyone else up for tarring & feathering Dan D****** O'Dowd!?!?!?

[colby2611]

Rockies starter Ubaldo Jimenez's name has been front and center for much of the past two weeks in trade talk, and it appears he will finally be traded. CBSSports.com's Danny Knobler is reporting it will happen sometime before the deadline. Still, it's not 100 percent and Jimenez is even making his scheduled start at San Diego Saturday night. Of course, Esmil Rogers began warming up in the bullpen in the first inning, so it looks like the deal could be finalized during the game.

[IamRalpho]

Newest rumor:

#RedSox planning a trade for Ubaldo Jiminez. Sending Lars Anderson, Will Middlebrooks, Anthony Raunaudo to Colorado.

[colby2611]

Newest rumor:

#RedSox planning a trade for Ubaldo Jiminez. Sending Lars Anderson, Will Middlebrooks, Anthony Raunaudo to Colorado.

that sounds much like some thing the sox would do.

[colby2611]

8:01pm: It appears that the Indians are getting a fourth player, Jon Heyman of SI.com reports

[colby2611]

Ubaldo Jimenez throws 45 pitches (21 strikes), walks four, allows four runs in first inning. Not exactly showcasing.

[Zacky1053]

Rough 1st for Ubaldo in a pitcher's ballpark against a bad hitting team. What a coincidence...

[ckcardz]

Jim tracy wispered something in his ear as he came off the field. Then started hugging everyone. Most likely no longer a rockie. I hate the rockies management right now

[gunshowboy]

8:01pm: It appears that the Indians are giving a fourth player, Jon Heyman of SI.com reports

but indians are only getting ubaldo...

[mgugs46]

RT @ChrisVillani44: Multiple sources telling me the Sox have put together a package for Ubaldo Jiminez...Lars Anderson, Will Middlebrooks and Anthony Ranaudo

[Zacky1053]

Jim tracy wispered something in his ear as he came off the field.

Jim Tracy: "Those random horrid innings are why we're getting rid of you." :D

[ckcardz]

Dont give him crap cuz of tonight. If you were a great pitcher and knew you were basicqlly leaving all your friends and stuff you wouldnt be nervous and unfocused?

[mgugs46]

From: @NCTPadres
Sent: Jul 30, 2011 9:07p

Ubaldo Jimenez getting hugged by his teammates in the dugout. No word on anything just yet.

[Zacky1053]

Dont give him crap cuz of tonight. If you were a great pitcher and knew you were basicqlly leaving all your friends and stuff you wouldnt be nervous and unfocused?

Just messin around...

[ckcardz]

Nevermind didnt see ur other post

[Zacky1053]

Your cool. I dont think the game was the most importan tyig on his mind

Yeah naturally you'd like to think he could ignore stuff like that but in today's social world, good luck with that.

Plus he's on my fantasy team so it hurts a little.

I'll get over it.

[colby2611]

but indians are only getting ubaldo...

i know that did not make sense to me either. they must likely meant colorado

[Zacky1053]

Ubaldo pulled.

What was the point of even starting him? Whomever gets him might have wanted him to start tomorrow.

[tehchamp]

Hearing its Pomeranz, White, McBride and Joe Gardner for Ubaldo.
I think the Rockies personally needed to get a better bat than McBride in the deal.

[ckcardz]

Zacky- sorry bout that didnt see ur post about you just messing around. He was also on my fantasy team

[Zacky1053]

Hearing its Pomeranz, White, McBride and Joe Gardner for Ubaldo.
I think the Rockies personally needed to get a better bat than McBride in the deal.

I think pitching is a bigger issue with no real "great" pitcher besides Jimenez.

[colby2611]

i don't think the sox offer comes close . with the two pitchers the indians are giving up.

[mgugs46]

No definitely not. Indians offer is just insane to me - especially since they literally have NO shot at winning anything, other than perhaps an AL Central title.

On a side note, looks like Red Sox are close to acquiring Harden. Which will be great for all 2 starts he makes it through without getting hurt.

[tehchamp]

I think pitching is a bigger issue with no real "great" pitcher besides Jimenez.

With the holes in the Rockies offense, they needed a good bat.
I was hoping to snap Kipnis, or heck Chisenell.

[DetectiveChrome]

He's gone - check the link and the hugs are a clear indication. I have him on my fantasy team and he has been a nightmare. Hopefully he has a good start in the AL central. Indians very inconsistent though.

Cleveland Indians to trade for Ubaldo Jimenez - Daily Pitch: MLB News, Standings, Schedules & More - USATODAY.com (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/dailypitch/post/2011/07/ubaldo-jimenez-trades-to-cleveland-indians/1)

[avjp87]

The Red Sox are getting Rich Harden









hahahahahahaha

[mgugs46]

Hes better than Lackey, Andrew Miller or Wakefield, so while Buchholz is out, I will take him

[colby2611]

On a side note, looks like Red Sox are close to acquiring Harden. Which will be great for all 2 starts he makes it through without getting hurt.



i really hope that DOESN'T happen. i know they need a pitcher, but come on.

[DetectiveChrome]

Hes better than Lackey, Andrew Miller or Wakefield, so while Buchholz is out, I will take him

I agree. Miller and Lackey suck. Wakefield + wind is tough to hit.

Nice pick up, Harden is solid when healthy.

Bucholtz won't be back for awhile it seems. Will they shut him down for the season?

[IamRalpho]

Harden is perfect for the what Sox need, we have 2 aces already and a 3rd very good starter when he comes back.

[colby2611]

if they do and don't get Ubaldo , i think they could be in trouble. they would not get by the phillies. i think they get there butyou know good pitching beats good hitting

[colby2611]

harden is a good pitcher but is always hurt

[colby2611]

lars anderson and player to be name later for harden. sounds done

[lobo_hacker]

-I have officially designated my Pomeranz autos for a barn burning next week, everyone bring chocolate bars and marshmallows for smores.

lobo_hacker, who hates this trade for the future prospects on pomeranz

[BennettCollecta]

You guys take prospects too seriously. For all we know Pomeranz and White may never make the majors or just turn out to be mediocre.

[wolffer12]

You guys take prospects too seriously. For all we know Pomeranz and White may never make the majors or just turn out to be mediocre.

Bingo... I love this trade as a tribe fan. Alex White already can't stay healthy and will end up being a closer which they have no need for right now. They get a lock down ace for 2.5 years at next to nothing money wise. Pomeranz isn't going to be a CC type starter. He will project to a Greg Swindell type but never a front line ace starter.

This move wasn't just made for this year. The Tribe has shown they are ready to compete the next two years and you need a lock down ace for that to happen. The Giants showed last year all it takes is to get hot in the playoffs to win the title. Pitching wins games in the playoffs and the Tribe just got the best piece out there.

[mgugs46]

I agree ubaldo was the best SP available ... I just dont see him as an ace, especially not in the AL. I suppose if the Indians add more in th offseason maybe they'll have a legit shot at contending next year but I just can't see them being a serious threat in 2011. I am however glad ubaldo went to them instead of Detroit, LAA, Texas or NY.

[mgugs46]

Source confirms Matt McBride is in an Akron hospital with eye fracture ball struck him during BP Friday. Holding up Jimenez trade.
web • 7/31/11 3:01 PM
Retweeted by BenBadler

Interesting. Doubt it amounts to much.

[S.Gallagherfan6]

Will Pomeranz be able to pitch for akron the next month. or does he just wait till he can be traded

[asujbl]

Bingo... I love this trade as a tribe fan. Alex White already can't stay healthy and will end up being a closer which they have no need for right now. They get a lock down ace for 2.5 years at next to nothing money wise. Pomeranz isn't going to be a CC type starter. He will project to a Greg Swindell type but never a front line ace starter.

This move wasn't just made for this year. The Tribe has shown they are ready to compete the next two years and you need a lock down ace for that to happen. The Giants showed last year all it takes is to get hot in the playoffs to win the title. Pitching wins games in the playoffs and the Tribe just got the best piece out there.

Finally a post that makes some sense.

I'm a Tribe season ticket holder and I was pumped to see what Pomeranz could do - but he might just be some huge bust - no one knows - the Tribe have been burned too many times (Miller anyone??) to not get a true #1 that they can afford. White is nothing more then a BOR guy at best - probably a reliever. He's good - but he isn't a "break" the trade guy.

Ubaldo isn't some free agent "hired gun" the Tribe got either - you don't pass on a legit #1 that is locked down for this season and 2 more seasons at rock bottom prices.

[ReinholdMessner]

Finally a post that makes some sense.

I'm a Tribe season ticket holder and I was pumped to see what Pomeranz could do - but he might just be some huge bust - no one knows - the Tribe have been burned too many times (Miller anyone??) to not get a true #1 that they can afford. White is nothing more then a BOR guy at best - probably a reliever. He's good - but he isn't a "break" the trade guy.

Ubaldo isn't some free agent "hired gun" the Tribe got either - you don't pass on a legit #1 that is locked down for this season and 2 more seasons at rock bottom prices.

Ubaldo has been a "legit #1" for all of half a season. He is far from a known commodity. Prospects are always a craphsoot but if you are going to give up your very best you want it to be for close to a sure thing. This one will be an interesting one to look at 3 years from now to see how it all shook out

[mgugs46]

My biggest concern on Ubaldo would be the NL to AL switch. Very different leagues.

[dizzyduff13]

My biggest concern on Ubaldo would be the NL to AL switch. Very different leagues.

True, but at the same time wouldn't it help that he isn't pitching half his games in Coors Field?