View Full Version : LINCOLN/WASHINGTON 1/1 $ predictions
pmac9286
02-23-2009, 02:25 AM
Razor Oval Office GEORGE WASHINGTON A. LINCOLN 1/1 AUTO - eBay (item 300295132722 end time Mar-01-09 19:00:00 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/Razor-Oval-Office-GEORGE-WASHINGTON-A-LINCOLN-1-1-AUTO_W0QQitemZ300295132722QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item300295132722&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)
theres the link to the auction what will final price be?
Brad68to96
02-23-2009, 04:19 AM
Not sure of the final price, but I hope it goes for a ton! Good luck.
ceczerwonka
02-23-2009, 09:05 AM
I love the video and how many times the f bomb is bleeped out.
deboesports
02-23-2009, 09:19 AM
i see it ending at $9,999.99 cause i dont see anyone buying this at that price
Caspalta
02-23-2009, 09:48 AM
20,000
a cut washington auto at an auction house (not in a card) goes for 15k
mfw13
02-23-2009, 12:27 PM
I've seen cut Washington auto's go for as little as $5000 at auction houses...made me kind of laugh when the guy who pulled the Washington single listed it with a BIN of $100,000 to start.
As for this item, to be completely honest it's not a very attractive piece of memorabilia. The Lincoln signature is tiny, off-center, and surrounded by pieces of other writing, and the Washington signature has the "G" chopped off and is so faded as to almost blend in with the paper it's written on.
So I doubt too many serious autograpgh collectors would be interested in it, as they'd rather have a complete document. That leaves speculators, and given how poorly Razor Oval Office is doing on Ebay so far (aside from the Grant, nothing has sold for over $1250), people may be very hesitant about risking such a huge sum on a speculative investment.
mwheeler27
02-23-2009, 12:31 PM
I have to agree that I don't think this will go for very much. I seriously considered starting the bidding off with $10K, but decided that was just too much given the poor quality of the Washington Auto. I'd pay $5K for this, but no more.
rudyjustinfarrell
02-23-2009, 06:18 PM
With all the attention that Lincoln has been getting lately? I'd think there are still some well monied collectors around that would be interested if they saw the auction.
hatcher
02-23-2009, 07:08 PM
It will sale for $15,000
solt0131
02-23-2009, 08:39 PM
Because it's Razor, I'm saying 5,000
KILROY
02-23-2009, 08:45 PM
I Think The Way The Economy Is Right Now Nobody Has That Type Of Money To Be Spending Right Now.
newengland4me
02-23-2009, 08:49 PM
Well the card has 1 bid US $9,999.99
So guess again.
ebaycatdogoo
02-23-2009, 08:55 PM
I guess this product really is a bust if the best card in there only gets $5000. I originally thought $20,000-30,000. That is with out checking prices of Washington and Lincoln cut autos. Good luck selling it. Hopefully it takes off and someone pays a lot for it.
ebaycatdogoo
ryanmanley@hotmail.com
Anyone notice the description "this card has never been on Ebay". Beckett could f--k up a free lunch. I would laugh if the auction gets pulled.
marino5084
02-23-2009, 10:20 PM
I think this card will hit 22,000.00. I think they meant you have never seen a card like this on Ebay before. Gotta love the negative feedback Beckett has received. The almighty beckett doesn't have 100% feedback :eek: :rolleyes: It was a fun read.
Bigblue
02-23-2009, 11:30 PM
HAHAHA....Why bid now??? If anything snipe this baby if nobody is willing to pull the trigger. Glad for the guy that pulled it but why.... why bid now??
Have to agree on the quality too, I'd have to pass on it for that price (hypothetically speaking) but then again I won't spend 10 bucks on a Brandon Phillips auto if it looks a little off LOL!!
pmac9286
02-24-2009, 11:51 AM
http://beta.beckett.com/group/476738/?tab=tabArticles&p=554487#ViewArticle
ebacardi2
02-24-2009, 03:00 PM
I Think The Way The Economy Is Right Now Nobody Has That Type Of Money To Be Spending Right Now.
Dude. Your kidding right? Man I know plenty of rich people who would pay 15-20k for it. The Grant went 7k this will hit 15k+
thekramers5
02-24-2009, 04:49 PM
Don't ever understimate the added value of posting with Beckett.
Example 1...
I pulled the Williams Bat Barrel from Sterling and sold for approx. $2,300 (when the product was at the top of hype). Pulled another and it sold for over $6,000 when posted through Beckett.
Example 2...The Mantle Barrel I pulled from Sterling sold for over $10,000 - again, long after the hype of the product was at its highest. Much more than the $4k+ the previous one sold for by a high-feedback private collector.
They have advertising means, loyal customers, accountability, etc. I would never pay a lot of money for a high dollar card from "$am Prick" (example name for you confused few), even if he has 10,000 feedback. No guarantee when it all goes downhill.
thekramers5
02-24-2009, 04:50 PM
I Think The Way The Economy Is Right Now Nobody Has That Type Of Money To Be Spending Right Now.
The people who would have EVER considered spending this type of money for a presidential cut (even in a good economy) are absolutely not affected by the current economy.
oldgoldy97
02-24-2009, 05:15 PM
[QUOTE=ebacardi2;175341]Dude. Your kidding right? Man I know plenty of rich people who would pay 15-20k for it. The Grant went 7k this will hit 15k+[/QUO
$50,000. It is a priceless, national treaure that needs to be put in a museum. That's all that Razor produces-high quality, national treasures.
mwheeler27
02-24-2009, 05:38 PM
$50,000. It is a priceless, national treaure that needs to be put in a museum. That's all that Razor produces-high quality, national treasures.
I really like this product and I share your enthusiasm somewhat. Having said that...some would argue that Razor isn't "producing" high quality, national treasures, but actually destroying these national treasures to turn a profit.
There is no way this card pulls $50K. I would love to see it though.
sportzluvr1
02-24-2009, 05:48 PM
I really like this product and I share your enthusiasm somewhat. Having said that...some would argue that Razor isn't "producing" high quality, national treasures, but actually destroying these national treasures to turn a profit.
There is no way this card pulls $50K. I would love to see it though.
My guess is 25-30k
Bet im right! :rolleyes:
mwheeler27
02-24-2009, 05:50 PM
My guess is 25-30k
Bet im right! :rolleyes:
Your mean is $27,500, so I'll guess half that...$13,750 is where it will end. ;)
revil41
02-25-2009, 04:05 AM
In todays market i am willing to bet it will go for 17,250.
vortekv8
03-01-2009, 09:21 PM
well all if your still watching it ends in under 40 mins and we are at $16,100...think there is going to be a final bidding war????
petyparamoreAHS
03-01-2009, 09:23 PM
i see it ending at $9,999.99 cause i dont see anyone buying this at that price
at 16K now...i'd guess 19500
mwheeler27
03-01-2009, 09:27 PM
at 16K now...i'd guess 19500
It's a lot easier to guess now that the auction is almost over. :rolleyes:
petyparamoreAHS
03-01-2009, 09:27 PM
It's a lot easier to guess now that the auction is almost over. :rolleyes:
i know haha i would've guess probably like 25k a few days ago, i thought he was doing beckett auction?
marino5084
03-01-2009, 09:34 PM
i know haha i would've guess probably like 25k a few days ago, i thought he was doing beckett auction?
It is a beckett auction and I'm sticking with 22,500.00 :D
petyparamoreAHS
03-01-2009, 09:38 PM
It is a beckett auction and I'm sticking with 22,500.00 :D
i heard they took 25% IMO that's way too much, i'd just sell on my own.
pmac9286
03-01-2009, 09:40 PM
i heard they took 25% IMO that's way too much, i'd just sell on my own.
YOU HEARD WRONG!!!
petyparamoreAHS
03-01-2009, 09:44 PM
YOU HEARD WRONG!!!
good cuz that's obsurdly high, i've sold stuff for people on ebay and only took 12%
deboesports
03-01-2009, 09:48 PM
YOU HEARD WRONG!!!
:)!
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd82/deboesports/chill.jpg
pskell02
03-01-2009, 09:57 PM
Looks like $16,100 might take it down unless there is a surge in the last 3 min.
And does anyone else find it absurd that they aren't giving free shipping?
petyparamoreAHS
03-01-2009, 09:57 PM
Looks like $16,100 might take it down unless there is a surge in the last 3 min.
i've seen cards go up $500 in 3 seconds so anything is possible.
pskell02
03-01-2009, 10:00 PM
$16,200. Pretty anticlimactic finish.
Popped $100 in the last 30 sec. $16,200 took the dualie home.
marino5084
03-01-2009, 10:01 PM
$16,200. Pretty anticlimactic finish.
I would say so, a $100.00 push at the end to take it. I thought it would go nuts
deboesports
03-01-2009, 10:04 PM
and the winner got 100% feedback, looks like a good sale!
petyparamoreAHS
03-01-2009, 10:33 PM
wow that was disappointing...
sportzluvr1
03-01-2009, 10:35 PM
Shows how bad of a reception this stuff got.
mwheeler27
03-01-2009, 10:43 PM
Shows how bad of a reception this stuff got.
I couldn't disagree more. Sorry. It shows how bad the economy is right now. That will be a $25,000 plus card in 5 years. This set will be a good investment.
sportzluvr1
03-01-2009, 10:49 PM
I couldn't disagree more. Sorry. It shows how bad the economy is right now. That will be a $25,000 plus card in 5 years. This set will be a good investment.
Oh yea, that too :)!
i heard they took 25% IMO that's way too much, i'd just sell on my own.
Actually they take 10%!!!
pskell02
03-01-2009, 10:51 PM
Actually they take 10%!!!
Is that 10% on top of the fees? If so, hes looking at what, $3200 going to beckett/ebay plus 3% or so going to paypal.
fm8418
03-01-2009, 10:51 PM
around a 650% return on the investment before fees.
I would probably buy myself something historic to make me feel better about selling that card.
pmac9286
03-01-2009, 11:31 PM
Its 10% total thats ebay paypal everything... I thought it seemed fair... very anticlimatic but Im still happy!!!
fm8418
03-01-2009, 11:41 PM
Its 10% total thats ebay paypal everything... I thought it seemed fair... very anticlimatic but Im still happy!!!
so it's cheaper to sell thru beckett than on your own?
pmac9286
03-02-2009, 12:05 AM
Yes thank you for noticing unlike these people saying Im stupid for going to beckett
Yes thank you for noticing unlike these people saying Im stupid for going to beckett
10% TOTAL !!! That Includes everything!!
matts_cardz
03-02-2009, 09:58 AM
I could care less if it costs me more to sell it then sending it to beckett...if I pulled it, that f'n card is staying in my hands ONLY until I ship it out lol...I would definately say the ending price was low, but with the economy and "Razor" as the manufacturer that could be why...I could see it doing $5-10k more if Upper Deck produced it, I remember the Babe Ruth Dualie with the guy that sold him to NY went for $25k a year ago or so out of a UD product
hatcher
03-02-2009, 01:23 PM
I was close I said 15,000 a week ago.
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