Message from Leaf Trading Cards & Andrew Luck

[blowoutcards]

Leaf_Cards Leaf Trading Cards
Andrew Luck makes his LICENSED trading card debut tonight.We will be offering limited edition cards at 8PM on eBay (seller:leaftradingcards)


leaftradingcards | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/sch/leaftradingcards/m.html?_dmd=1&_ipg=200&_sop=10&_rdc=1)

[WhacksPacks]

Annnnd away we go.......

Will be interesting to see
1) What these look like
2) What these go for

in somewhat related news..look up past 'andrew luck leaf' completed auctions...WTF is THAT?

[addicted36]

8pm when, EST, CST, PST? Are they Buy it nows or auction formats? I'm excited. I want an Andrew Luck! Thank you for the information.

[addicted36]

Annnnd away we go.......

Will be interesting to see
1) What these look like
2) What these go for

in somewhat related news..look up past 'andrew luck leaf' completed auctions...WTF is THAT?

Andrew Luck 2011 Leaf Cut Signature 1 of 1 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Andrew-Luck-2011-Leaf-Cut-Signature-1-1-/160704560123?pt=US_Football&hash=item256abcfbfb#ht_500wt_950)

WOW that's pretty insane, is it real?

[dhcollecting]

probably going to be a BIN.

[Zacky1053]

Andrew Luck 2011 Leaf Cut Signature 1 of 1 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Andrew-Luck-2011-Leaf-Cut-Signature-1-1-/160704560123?pt=US_Football&hash=item256abcfbfb#ht_500wt_950)

WOW that's pretty insane, is it real?

Those are the ones that Leaf makes from autographed memorabilia people send in. I think the fee was lke $50 or something.

Still, crazy though.

[Andrew Jones]

I'm sure this is a dumb question, but when Razor/Leaf says the cards are licensed, to what are they referring? They don't have an NFL license. Do they have a college license?

[Zacky1053]

I'm sure this is a dumb question, but when Razor/Leaf says the cards are licensed, to what are they referring? They don't have an NFL license. Do they have a college license?

Only license they have is for the player.

I know, it sounds ridiculous.

[cadillac540]

Those are the ones that Leaf makes from autographed memorabilia people send in. I think the fee was lke $50 or something.

Still, crazy though.

$50 well spent!

[Zacky1053]

$50 well spent!

Well you could also argue the buyer didn't know they were essentially buying a TTM auto that was authenticated by Leaf/JS, not a 1/1 MANUFACTURED and acquired by Leaf themselves.

[HBMC]

Andrew Luck 2011 Leaf Cut Signature 1 of 1 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Andrew-Luck-2011-Leaf-Cut-Signature-1-1-/160704560123?pt=US_Football&hash=item256abcfbfb#ht_500wt_950)

WOW that's pretty insane, is it real?

If that's his signature, forget it. Lame ass sig!

[bdubs3316]

If that's his signature, forget it. Lame ass sig!

+1

That was my exact same thought.

[chasacar86]

If you're going to spend 1500 on a card it'd at least be nice to see his face or entire body on there, not his crotch.

[HBMC]

If you're going to spend 1500 on a card it'd at least be nice to see his face or entire body on there, not his crotch.

Not if it's Brett Favre! :devil:

[chasacar86]

Not if it's Brett Favre! :devil:

Lol *which would actually increase the value :p

[mwheeler27]

Only license they have is for the player.

I know, it sounds ridiculous.

I wonder if player licenses and league licenses will ever be considered equal in collectors' eyes?

[WilsonValdez]

I wonder if player licenses and league licenses will ever be considered equal in collectors' eyes?

Doubt it...collectors in general want (and are willing to pay) for uniforms and league licenses. I personally don't care, as long as the aesthetics are right, but I know if I have a nice on-card Press Pass auto of Player X, it's probably going to be consistently worth less than a comparable "league" issue.

[sportcrazynick]

Andrew Luck 2011 Leaf Cut Signature 1 of 1 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Andrew-Luck-2011-Leaf-Cut-Signature-1-1-/160704560123?pt=US_Football&hash=item256abcfbfb#ht_500wt_950)

WOW that's pretty insane, is it real?


i wish you would respond to the multiple pm's i have sent you :(

[FreeMan12406]

If you're going to spend 1500 on a card it'd at least be nice to see his face or entire body on there, not his crotch.

Speak for yourself sir.

[tajikey]

Andrew Luck 2011 Leaf Cut Signature 1 of 1 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Andrew-Luck-2011-Leaf-Cut-Signature-1-1-/160704560123?pt=US_Football&hash=item256abcfbfb#ht_500wt_950)

WOW that's pretty insane, is it real?

i wish you would respond to the multiple pm's i have sent you :(

Agreed. Got an "I'm 97% certain I want to buy your cards, just need to see them," message. I scanned, sent, no response.

[u_want_my_cards]

Must be 8PM Central.

[shockandawwe]

If that's his signature, forget it. Lame ass sig!

looks like anthony morelis sig!

[The Madbacker]

Wow, not impressed.

[1eyed_jack]

pretty lame. if it looked cool i might have bought it, but that's just a lame way to try and make money. it says 500 produced, but it doesn't even look like it's serial numbered

[u_want_my_cards]

Just bought a Prismatic /350.... looks like theres one /500 and one out of /89 as well.

[The Madbacker]

I think it's BS that they list the first 2 at a Buy It Now but the low serially numbered ones are going to be regular auctions.

That's BS, contemplating not paying for the ones I bought.

[u_want_my_cards]

I think it's BS that they list the first 2 at a Buy It Now but the low serially numbered ones are going to be regular auctions.

That's BS, contemplating not paying for the ones I bought.

Parallels of these cards are available and will be sold spereately by auction/buy it now... We will offer these in multiple buy it now listings... we will list them over a period of time to protect against one person buying all 89!!!!! FREE SHIPPING!!!!!! PAYPAL ONLY!!!!!!!

Came right from the Parallel /89 auction. My guess is some BIN's get listed soon for about $50 a piece.

[u_want_my_cards]

Blue /50 auction was just listed... Again not a BIN.

[mwheeler27]

One out of 50 as well. More low-numbered to follow?

[The Madbacker]

They should've listed a few each at a reasonable BIN.

[u_want_my_cards]

Red /25 just listed. Wonder if the 1/1 super will be listed.

[1eyed_jack]

if they would have made the lower numbered ones BIN i would have thought it was a really cool thing they're doing. now it's just a shitty marketing ploy to make money. smart i guess, but seems a bit shady to me

[u_want_my_cards]

Im sure the rest of the cards not numbered 01/xx will be listed after the last card (most likely a 1/1). That way people stick around looking.

[The Madbacker]

if they would have made the lower numbered ones BIN i would have thought it was a really cool thing they're doing. now it's just a shitty marketing ploy to make money. smart i guess, but seems a bit shady to me

I agree. Get people to hit the BIN on the higher ones and then make the lower ones Auctions?

BS. Go ahead and file your Non-Paying bidder on me Leaf.

Dirty Pool.

[u_want_my_cards]

Yep. Luck Super just listed. Already at $102.50.

[WhacksPacks]

None of these are auto?

[addicted36]

2012 LEAF US ARMY METAL SUPER PRISMATIC ANDREW LUCK 1/1 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-LEAF-US-ARMY-METAL-SUPER-PRISMATIC-ANDREW-LUCK-1-1-/230733568100?pt=US_Football&hash=item35b8cad864)

[u_want_my_cards]

Now $177.50. wow.

[1eyed_jack]

in theory this could have been such a cool thing for them to do for the big fans that are online right now waiting. but making them 3-day auctions kind of makes the whole 8pm thing pointless except for the 2 BIN cards

[u_want_my_cards]

What is wrong with this world? Almost $300...

[u_want_my_cards]

Cross my last post... Already over $300.

[mikey121581]

dam i just bid 175.00 on the 1/1 wtf

[WhacksPacks]

LOL I'm the high bidder right now..only because I know it'll go even higher..

IDGAF

[The Madbacker]

in theory this could have been such a cool thing for them to do for the big fans that are online right now waiting. but making them 3-day auctions kind of makes the whole 8pm thing pointless except for the 2 BIN cards

Exactly. They ensure people are at their computers and then make them regular auctions?

B to the S.

[u_want_my_cards]

LOL I'm the high bidder right now..only because I know it'll go even higher..

IDGAF

And then the bidding stops :D

[addicted36]

405 and climbing lol, this is funny to watch

[WhacksPacks]

And then the bidding stops :D

I would then make my swift exit from ebay..."lol"


I'm sure it'll tip over 500 believe it or not

[bigzig]

What is wrong with this world? Almost $300...

Up to $405...i dont stand a chance at getting any good cards if/ when he signs with the colts.

[WhacksPacks]

I am no longer the high bidder...

this is borderline comedic

Now I wonder if people are just f-ing w/ Leaf

[1eyed_jack]

ridiculousness aside, do you guys think $15 is a good deal for the /350?

[addicted36]

I wonder if those cards at BIN are actually worth buying and flipping? Any other rookie ever done like this before?

[addicted36]

Well 29 people have bought the card /350....guess some think its worth it lol

[Zacky1053]

Wow...I figured they would be like the Leaf Baseball products...college photos with logos airbrushed out.

But High School All-American Game photos?

[jubei777]

At least if you have deep pockets, you can assure yourself of the rainbow.

[1eyed_jack]

i'm going to guess they will wait for these auctions to end then throw some in at BIN based on the final price of the bidding.

[Brad]

someone should let them know they spelled his name wrong in the back...

[WhacksPacks]

they'll be valuable for a little while.

But let's set fantasy aside for a second and inject a wee lil bit of reality


BY this time next year there will be 100's of Luck Auto options equaling thousands of Luck Auto RC cards..

and hundreds of thousands of 'base' and/or 'numbered' rc cards like this...


this has a 'neat' factor for short term..but if you think you'll flip anything other than the 1/1 for a profit a year from now I'm afraid your mistaken.

But I could be wrong

[a-train10]

someone should let them know they spelled his name wrong in the back...

That's #@#@#@#@ing hilarious

[sdsportsfan1214]

I bet some Leaf hater just bids up the 1/1 auction to be funny lol

[WhacksPacks]

HA!' Anderw' Luck

Well..either they rushed these out too soon before even proof reading them just to make a buck..

OR they haven't even made them yet at all and this is but a type-o in the "illustration"model..which means they can and will actually produce any amount they wish

[Zacky1053]

this has a 'neat' factor for short term..but if you think you'll flip anything other than the 1/1 for a profit a year from now I'm afraid your mistaken.

But I could be wrong

Probably will fare similarly to the Leaf Metal Draft cards (maybe a bit better since the release is so exclusive).

They'll have value but like you said once NFL licensed stuff is out that trumps this.

Not to mention the spelling error mentioned previously. What a joke...

[Zacky1053]

OR they haven't even made them yet at all and this is but a type-o in the "illustration"model..which means they can and will actually produce any amount they wish

The scans look like the exact card IMO. Pretty sure they're not mockups...

[BAMBAM]

Leaf cards are like higher priced broders from the 90s. Go back to buying the licensed companies slabbed cards and boxing them as your own release.

[WhacksPacks]

then shame on them for rushing this out so quickly w/out proof reading

Glad I didn't win the 1/1

then again that IS one way to avoid paying the kid..."no see THIS is Andrwe Luck..you, my friend, are AndrEW Luck..big difference!"

[gonzagacubs]

HA!' Anderw' Luck

Well..either they rushed these out too soon before even proof reading them just to make a buck..


That's pretty much that way it has always been with that guy.

[1eyed_jack]

Sent them a question about the spelling and all they said was

"All cards are identical and sold as pictures"

[Cubs_rock21]

Leafs smart, they just randomly print cards and make easy cash

[bubble]

Bet all of the high numbered ones pop up in a year and say "1/1 error, Anderw Luck"

[freethrowtommy]

Leafs smart, they just randomly print cards and make easy cash

No kidding. Brian Gray isn't forcing people to buy this stuff... obviously the market is asking for it based on the prices.

I love how you guys crap on Leaf for giving people a product that they want to pay for. He is taking advantage of a hot time for Luck when no other companies have produced anything.

If you want to blame someone for this, blame the people dropping the heavy cash on a very short term value.

That being said, the misspell of Andrew on the back is just poor QC/QA.

[HadWayTooMuch]

What's the history of Leaf? It used to be part of Donruss. Did someone buy it individually when Panini bought Donruss?

[sdsportsfan1214]

Leafs smart, they just randomly print cards and make easy cash

They should stick to this instead of making the Rookie Retro garbage

[friarbolt]

No kidding. Brian Gray isn't forcing people to buy this stuff... obviously the market is asking for it based on the prices.

I love how you guys crap on Leaf for giving people a product that they want to pay for. He is taking advantage of a hot time for Luck when no other companies have produced anything.

If you want to blame someone for this, blame the people dropping the heavy cash on a very short term value.

That being said, the misspell of Andrew on the back is just poor QC/QA.

I certainly don't blame them, if there are people that dumb to drop the money on these that they are already bid up to, I say go nuts less competition for Luck's SPA patch auto, Contenders auto, Certified FF, and so on :)!

[mnvikingstwins]

Coming soon- Robert Griffen IV cards from Leaf.

[freethrowtommy]

What's the history of Leaf? It used to be part of Donruss. Did someone buy it individually when Panini bought Donruss?

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[mwheeler27]

Leafs smart...

I think Anderw and Mr. Webster would disagree.

Why Mr. Webster you ask? Because he believes Height is not spelled "Hight". :o

[HBMC]

No kidding. Brian Gray isn't forcing people to buy this stuff... obviously the market is asking for it based on the prices.

I love how you guys crap on Leaf for giving people a product that they want to pay for. He is taking advantage of a hot time for Luck when no other companies have produced anything.

If you want to blame someone for this, blame the people dropping the heavy cash on a very short term value.

That being said, the misspell of Andrew on the back is just poor QC/QA.

He's taking the advantage of the only cards of Luck he can make besides Metal Draft. Upper Deck I'm sure is jumping on the Luck wagon soon, as will Panini & Topps once he is drafted.

[S.Gallagherfan6]

people give topps a hard time for putting the wrong position on like baseball 10th round draft picks. This guy cant even spell Andrew right.

[mwheeler27]

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6172/andrewluck.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/andrewluck.jpg/)

[mwheeler27]

people give topps a hard time for putting the wrong position on like baseball 10th round draft picks. This guy cant even spell Andrew right.

Andrew isn't the only thing spelled wrong. While "epitome" is spelled right, "hight" is not. LOL

[golferphil]

Andrew isn't the only thing spelled wrong. While "epitome" is spelled right, "hight" is not. LOL

Jesus run a spell checker before you print your cards. What a joke...

[a-train10]

If Leaf can produce these crappy Q/Ced cards and make hundreds of dollars, then I better start working on my own Andrew Luck card!

[mwheeler27]

run a spell checker before you print your cards. What a joke...

Here's the rub...

Since none of these cards have been packed out, obviously, one could assume they are still in Leaf's/Brian Gray's possession. If this is true, he has the opportunity to correct 100% of the entire print run by correcting the terrible, careless spelling by re-printing the cards.

So what do you think? Will he do it? I know I would. There is no way on this planet I would give my company a black eye like this when given the opportunity to correct the situation. No way.

[Cubs_rock21]

I think Anderw and Mr. Webster would disagree.

Why Mr. Webster you ask? Because he believes Height is not spelled "Hight". :o

people are buying this misspelled garbage...they might not be literate but they know how to make easy money

[mwheeler27]

The error cards have been pulled from ebay!

Brian has stated that those that ordered already will get their cards with errors, but have the option to exchange them for corrected ones if they wish. I think there were only 39 of these errors ordered.

Brian further stated that corrections will immediately be made and cards correctly printed.

Now that's how errors should be handled! Way to go, Brian. :)!

[sportsamerica]

But now the "errors" will be SP and drive pricing... He has how many printed right now with errors??/

[Andrew Jones]

I'm willing to bet no cards are destroyed. All this means is Razor/Leaf will sell twice as many of those Luck cards.

[mwheeler27]

I'm willing to bet no cards are destroyed. All this means is Razor/Leaf will sell twice as many of those Luck cards.

I'm willing to bet they will be destroyed, and hopefully they will be done publicly.

Can you imagine a video of the Superfractor 1/1 error being cut in half? That would take some balls and go a long way in showing how far Leaf is willing to go to right a wrong.

I'll be anxiously waiting to see what happens.

[ManInTheMirror]

In the "story" section on the back, shouldn't it just say "Andrew" instead of "Andrew Luck"?

[Andrew Jones]

I'm willing to bet they will be destroyed, and hopefully they will be done publicly.

Can you imagine a video of the Superfractor 1/1 error being cut in half? That would take some balls and go a long way in showing how far Leaf is willing to go to right a wrong.

I'll be anxiously waiting to see what happens.

Well, he promised he would publicly destroy the unsold Metal cards and I don't believe that ever happened. In fact, I think they were repurposed into another Razor/Leaf product. That's the basis for my opinion.

[mwheeler27]

Well, he promised he would publicly destroy the unsold Metal cards and I don't believe that ever happened. In fact, I think they were repurposed into another Razor/Leaf product. That's the basis for my opinion.

And I most definitely understand, but this is Leaf, and hopefully that makes a difference.

Time will tell.

[HadWayTooMuch]

Sounds like these "errors" were intentional...

[The Madbacker]

I listed mine at $550/OBO. I know it's stupidly high but lets see the offers.

[NeonStatus]

I think it's BS that they list the first 2 at a Buy It Now but the low serially numbered ones are going to be regular auctions.

That's BS, contemplating not paying for the ones I bought.

I agree. Get people to hit the BIN on the higher ones and then make the lower ones Auctions?

BS. Go ahead and file your Non-Paying bidder on me Leaf.

Dirty Pool.

I listed mine at $550/OBO. I know it's stupidly high but lets see the offers.

Quite the change of heart. Turns out something that you didn't even want has turned into $$$. :)

[mwheeler27]

Quite the change of heart. Turns out something that you didn't even want has turned into $$$. :)

It's not the first time someone spoke/posted too soon, and it won't be the last.

[The Madbacker]

Quite the change of heart. Turns out something that you didn't even want has turned into $$$. :)

I didn't want to trash my account over a $25 purchase and I would've become the exact thing I cannot stand the most on Ebay. So, it worked out in the end, good for me.

Paypal already holds my funds for 2 weeks because someone said I charged too much shipping, no point in getting my ability to buy in jeopardy as well.

I find it funny that you actually think you have something on me here. Nice job detective.

Thanks for caring:)!

[NeonStatus]

I didn't want to trash my account over a $25 purchase and I would've become the exact thing I cannot stand the most on Ebay. So, it worked out in the end, good for me.

Paypal already holds my funds for 2 weeks because someone said I charged too much shipping, no point in getting my ability to buy in jeopardy as well.

I find it funny that you actually think you have something on me here. Nice job detective.

Thanks for caring:)!

Something you didn't really want turned into $$$, plain and simple.

Detective? I think you over thought my post.

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

This is Leafs only chance at hyping Luck and making a desirable card, because once the big boys come out with his cards, Leaf will be an afterthought, so trying to create and maintain hype as the first cards of Luck is big for them.

[mwheeler27]

I listed mine at $550/OBO. I know it's stupidly high but lets see the offers.

Earned 10 times your money in under 2 days. :eek: Way to go!

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[mikey121581]

There's one up for $500 obo.....

[The Madbacker]

I sold mine for $150.