View Full Version : Oval Office Print Run!
coltsnsox07
02-27-2012, 10:00 AM
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz43/coltsnsox07/Oval_Office_Checklist.jpg
VWBUS1978
02-27-2012, 11:28 AM
sweet, thanks for the info!!!
mwheeler27
02-27-2012, 12:05 PM
So a total of 96 different cards.
VWBUS1978
02-27-2012, 12:15 PM
So a total of 96 different cards.
97 i think... 54 on the bottom and 43 up top, that's what it looks like, tough to count on a computer screen.
they do add up to 261 though, so that's good.
has the 1600 product released a checklist like that one? where the variations and everything are #'ed? i would like to link to both on my group break thread.
mwheeler27
02-27-2012, 12:22 PM
97 i think... 54 on the bottom and 43 up top, that's what it looks like, tough to count on a computer screen.
they do add up to 261 though, so that's good.
has the 1600 product released a checklist like that one? where the variations and everything are #'ed? i would like to link to both on my group break thread.
Famous Fabrics has already listed entire checklists of all 480 unique 1/1 cut autograph cards. :D
dachman
02-27-2012, 12:26 PM
Famous Fabrics has already listed entire checklists of all 480 unique 1/1 cut autograph cards. :DCause there are big collectors out there who want cut autos of presidents kids :rolleyes:
Oval Office: 2/261 chance of hitting a Washington auto
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue: 0/480 chance of hitting a Washington auto
mwheeler27
02-27-2012, 12:35 PM
Cause there are big collectors out there who want cut autos of presidents kids :rolleyes:
Oval Office: 2/261 chance of hitting a Washington auto
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue: 0/480 chance of hitting a Washington auto
Did you see where base cards are already individually bringing $40, $50 , $60 and more? And you get 4 of these per box! :)!
How much cheaper is 1600 Penn. Ave. NW? :D
There are two ways to look at each product:
- Am I in this for a GW or GW/Lincoln dual cut?
- Am I in this for a shot at a rare Presidential cut while reducing my chance at losing almost all my investment?
There's no doubt that there are buyers for each product. I bought more 2008 Oval Office than most people.
kajshack
02-27-2012, 12:39 PM
Cause there are big collectors out there who want cut autos of presidents kids :rolleyes:
Oval Office: 2/261 chance of hitting a Washington auto
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue: 0/480 chance of hitting a Washington auto
We don't need to start this up again.
1600 has base cards that go for $40-70 each. That's $200 easy right there. Sure, your second cut may only be a $30-40 card, but now you're only about $1250 into your President cut at the most. With Leaf, you have better odds at pulling something huge, but you're still an extra $250 into your cut. It's a tough call (and I've decided not to take the plunge with either one), but if you're gambling that much money, I think it just comes down to personal preference.
I'll be spending my money chasing after a few of the base cards from 1600. Not sure if I'll put the entire set together, but there are definitely a few that I want for my collection.
VWBUS1978
02-27-2012, 12:41 PM
We don't need to start this up again.
1600 has base cards that go for $40-70 each. That's $200 easy right there. Sure, your second cut may only be a $30-40 card, but now you're only about $1250 into your President cut at the most. With Leaf, you have better odds at pulling something huge, but you're still an extra $250 into your cut. It's a tough call (and I've decided not to take the plunge with either one), but if you're gambling that much money, I think it just comes down to personal preference.
I'll be spending my money chasing after a few of the base cards from 1600. Not sure if I'll put the entire set together, but there are definitely a few that I want for my collection.
i'm with you kaj, i am chasing a couple of those 1600 base cards too!
love the fact that a collector here sketched the photo's, so awesome!
kajshack
02-27-2012, 12:44 PM
i'm with you kaj, i am chasing a couple of those 1600 base cards too!
love the fact that a collector here sketched the photo's, so awesome!
That is cool. There's another guy here who has sketched for Topps before. I bought a custom sketch of Golden Tate awhile back from yet another guy on this board who won Topps' "You Sketch It" promotion from a few years back.
There's a lot of talented people on this board.
dachman
02-27-2012, 02:03 PM
Did you see where base cards are already individually bringing $40, $50 , $60 and more? And you get 4 of these per box! :)!
How much cheaper is 1600 Penn. Ave. NW? :D
There are two ways to look at each product:
- Am I in this for a GW or GW/Lincoln dual cut?
- Am I in this for a shot at a rare Presidential cut while reducing my chance at losing almost all my investment?
There's no doubt that there are buyers for each product. I bought more 2008 Oval Office than most people.There is a $25 difference between the 2 on BO right now and if you are spending $1.5K on a box, that shouldn't matter.
mwheeler27
02-27-2012, 02:39 PM
There is a $25 difference between the 2 on BO right now and if you are spending $1.5K on a box, that shouldn't matter.
Just like 5 extra cards shouldn't matter, right? LOL
I don't know about you, but $25 matters to me. I can pay for 3 rides on an elephant at the Shriner's circus for $25 and still have change left over. At least at yesterday's prices. ;)
dachman
02-27-2012, 02:52 PM
Just like 5 extra cards shouldn't matter, right? LOL
I don't know about you, but $25 matters to me. I can pay for 3 rides on an elephant at the Shriner's circus for $25 and still have change left over. At least at yesterday's prices. ;)Let's save this argument for when some stuff has sold on eBay :D. So far we have a Clinton base that sold for around $60 and a bunch that didn't sell for a starting price of $20
mwheeler27
02-27-2012, 02:56 PM
Let's save this argument for when some stuff has sold on eBay :D. So far we have a Clinton base that sold for around $60 and a bunch that didn't sell for a starting price of $20
It must suck to not be "in the know" and make posts of opinion as if they are fact. Unfortunately for you, this post of yours stating "they didn't sell" isn't true.
Those cards sold off-line. The seller(s) removed them after being contacted by a serious buyer.
What else you got?
Zerokruel
02-27-2012, 02:57 PM
Let's save this argument for when some stuff has sold on eBay :D. So far we have a Clinton base that sold for around $60 and a bunch that didn't sell for a starting price of $20
You mean all the $19.99's that ended because "The item is no longer available"? Come on, don't start saying they didn't sell. Were not blind here at what happened. :rolleyes:
Edit: Looks like Matt beat me to it.
dachman
02-27-2012, 03:05 PM
It must suck to not be "in the know" and make posts of opinion as if they are fact. Unfortunately for you, this post of yours stating "they didn't sell" isn't true.
Those cards sold off-line. The seller(s) removed them after being contacted by a serious buyer.
What else you got?
You mean all the $19.99's that ended because "The item is no longer available"? Come on, don't start saying they didn't sell. Were not blind here at what happened. :rolleyes:
Edit: Looks like Matt beat me to it.I'm sorry I didn't look at every auction to see how they ended. I'll leave that up to you guys since you have much more free time. Regardless we only have one sale so far to base anything off of.
WhacksPacks
02-27-2012, 03:07 PM
I was trying to buy those when he pulled them off :(
Im building the dogs and the wh couples sets
So far i have baracks ugle a$$ mutt and US Grant/wifey
mwheeler27
02-27-2012, 03:13 PM
I'm sorry I didn't look at every auction to see how they ended. I'll leave that up to you guys since you have much more free time. Regardless we only have one sale so far to base anything off of.
You really should stop posting silly nonsense.
What are you talking about having only "one sale so far to base anything off of"? :confused: Here are a quick 4:
BILL CLINTON FAMOUS FABRICS 1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE 2/10 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BILL-CLINTON-FAMOUS-FABRICS-1600-PENNSYLVANIA-AVENUE-2-10-/120865954581?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c242c1b15#ht_500wt_1182)
eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WOODROW-EDITH-WILSON-FAMOUS-FABRICS-PRESIDENT-COUPLES-1600-PENNSYLVANIA-AVE-10-/110831034543?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ce0b60af#ht_500wt_1182)
ULYSSES JULIA GRANT FAMOUS FABRICS PRESIDENT COUPLES 1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVE #10 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULYSSES-JULIA-GRANT-FAMOUS-FABRICS-PRESIDENT-COUPLES-1600-PENNSYLVANIA-AVE-10-/120865948361?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c242c02c9#ht_500wt_1182)
BO 2012 FAMOUS FABRICS THE OBAMAS PRESIDENT PET 1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVE BASE 1/10 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BO-2012-FAMOUS-FABRICS-OBAMAS-PRESIDENT-PET-1600-PENNSYLVANIA-AVE-BASE-1-10-/110831025654?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19ce0b3df6#ht_500wt_1182)
And I know of about 2 dozen confirmed sales off-line that are all above $50 each. I'm not the only member in this forum, (or in this thread), that knows of those "confirmed" sales either.
Zerokruel
02-27-2012, 03:13 PM
I'm sorry I didn't look at every auction to see how they ended. I'll leave that up to you guys since you have much more free time. Regardless we only have one sale so far to base anything off of.
That's really your response? :confused:
dachman
02-27-2012, 03:16 PM
Ah, my search was too specific with "1600 Pennsylvania Avenue"
Thank you for correcting me mwheeler27 :)!. I should just bow down to your greatness but I just can't do it :p.
mwheeler27
02-27-2012, 03:18 PM
Ah, my search was too specific with "1600 Pennsylvania Avenue"
Thank you for correcting me mwheeler27 :)!
You're welcome. I'm only trying to reduce the spread of inaccurate information in this forum.
dd316
02-27-2012, 03:23 PM
Cause there are big collectors out there who want cut autos of presidents kids :rolleyes:
Yes there are. Just because you don't collect them doesn't mean nobody else does. :rolleyes:
Oval Office: 2/261 chance of hitting a Washington auto
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue: 0/480 chance of hitting a Washington auto
2011/12 SPX Basketball: 0/5,000 chance of hitting a Washington auto.
He's not in the set because he doesn't fit the theme. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
I'll be spending my money chasing after a few of the base cards from 1600. Not sure if I'll put the entire set together, but there are definitely a few that I want for my collection.
I'm grateful you're buying into the product, but I take it you won't be tracking down the Reagan? :(
Evil Robot Reagan. "Tear down this wall...beep bop boop..00110011001"
Wow, that's a lot of quoting! :flex:
dachman
02-27-2012, 03:25 PM
You're welcome. I'm only trying to reduce the spread of inaccurate information in this forum.Your sincerity is astounding :rolleyes:.
Know of any other sales of the presidential autos other than this one? I'd hate to miss an eBay sale since I don't know how people title their auctions for this stuff.
1600 Pennsylvania Ave President CUT signature Gerald Rudolph Ford autograph 1/1 | eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item1e6b925039&item=130653769785&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=DwcGqChIvFMY9fLm2KxwB8oGqmo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_484wt_1413)
I'd love to compile accurate information about both products.
2011/12 SPX Basketball: 0/5,000 chance of hitting a Washington auto.
He's not in the set because he doesn't fit the theme. Why is this so hard for people to understand?Now buying Basketball expecting a presidential cut would be silly :).
dd316
02-27-2012, 03:35 PM
Now buying Basketball expecting a presidential cut would be silly :).
Not just ANY President...:D
mwheeler27
02-27-2012, 03:36 PM
Your sincerity is astounding :rolleyes:.
Know of any other sales of the presidential autos other than this one? I'd hate to miss an eBay sale since I don't know how people title their auctions for this stuff.
1600 Pennsylvania Ave President CUT signature Gerald Rudolph Ford autograph 1/1 | eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=item1e6b925039&item=130653769785&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&si=DwcGqChIvFMY9fLm2KxwB8oGqmo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_484wt_1413)
I'd love to compile accurate information about both products.
I'll let you do all the compiling. I did that for 2008's Oval Office. It was fun, but I'm not looking to do it again.
What's interesting is that Ford cut auto brought more than the Buy-it-Now price of this full letter signed by him:
Gerald Ford Superb Conditon Signed Letter Signed - Watergate era | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gerald-Ford-Superb-Conditon-Signed-Letter-Signed-Watergate-era-/160748392480?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256d59d020#ht_600wt_1392)
dachman
02-27-2012, 03:42 PM
I'll let you do all the compiling. I did that for 2008's Oval Office. It was fun, but I'm not looking to do it again.
What's interesting is that Ford cut auto brought more than the Buy-it-Now price of this full letter signed by him:
Gerald Ford Superb Conditon Signed Letter Signed - Watergate era | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gerald-Ford-Superb-Conditon-Signed-Letter-Signed-Watergate-era-/160748392480?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item256d59d020#ht_600wt_1392)It's amazing how much more the cut sells for than an entire document. Especially if the document was about some presidential business and not a fan letter response or something. If I collected that kinda stuff I would want the entire document. Guess people like the 1/1 card more!
My main goal it to have a side by side comparison of the sale price for the same presidents in the different products. I'm very curious to see what happens :).
VWBUS1978
02-27-2012, 04:04 PM
the one thing about cut-autos though, they're certified, and already framed so no extra work needs to go into them, just enjoy.
both products are very nice for their price-point.
2011/12 SPX Basketball: 0/5,000 chance of hitting a Washington auto.
He's not in the set because he doesn't fit the theme. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
dude, nice artwork, i like it the more and more i see it!
however:
oval - chance at GW x 2 and lincoln x 4
1600 - extra slabbed cards that sell well (off of ebay :)!)
with oval you get 1/130.5 chance of a GW auto and a 1/65 chance on a lincoln.
also:
The Oval Office is the official office of the President of the United States.
The office was designed by the architect Nathan C. Wyeth at the order of President William Howard Taft in 1909.
And... if you wanna say Washington doesn't fit the "1600 pennsylvania ave" theme, well, he never occupied the "oval office" either but he is still in the product, TWICE!
Washington was instrumental in the construction, as it (the white house) was designed to be a 3-story 9 bay facade, which he did not like. Pre-construction, he had it changed to a 2 story 11 bay facade.
Without Washington, there would be no 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and no USA... and that is a cold hard fact.
dd316
02-27-2012, 04:26 PM
And... if you wanna say Washington doesn't fit the "1600 pennsylvania ave" theme, well, he never occupied the "oval office" either but he is still in the product, TWICE!
Twice the error? :D
Without Washington, there would be no 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and no USA... and that is a cold hard fact.
Well I get that, but you might as well include Christopher Columbus since there wouldn't be any of this without him either. ;)
It's pretty much up to you to accept why or why not someone is included. To me it makes perfect sense for Washington not to be included. And believe me, I was really itching to draw ol' George!
And thank you, I'm glad you like my work. :)
kajshack
02-27-2012, 04:29 PM
Yes there are. Just because you don't collect them doesn't mean nobody else does. :rolleyes:
2011/12 SPX Basketball: 0/5,000 chance of hitting a Washington auto.
He's not in the set because he doesn't fit the theme. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
I'm grateful you're buying into the product, but I take it you won't tracking down the Reagan? :(
Wow, that's a lot of quoting! :flex:
Yes, the Reagan did look strange to me at first. It, and the rest of the set, has grown in me. Good work.
dd316
02-27-2012, 04:33 PM
Yes, the Reagan did look strange to me at first. It, and the rest of the set, has grown in me. Good work.
Has grown in you? :eek:
http://deadlymovies.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/deadlymovies_alien-dance.jpg
Thanks, I knew you'd come around. :D
kajshack
02-27-2012, 04:37 PM
Has grown in you? :eek:
http://deadlymovies.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/deadlymovies_alien-dance.jpg
Thanks, I knew you'd come around. :D
Damn fat fingers on a tiny cell phone keyboard.
coltsnsox07
02-27-2012, 06:15 PM
You guys see box #248 had Clinton/Gore dual cut (guy on Youtube opened it).
WhacksPacks
02-27-2012, 06:37 PM
Yikes... Glad he got that one outta the way haha
kajshack
02-27-2012, 06:46 PM
I've got the box for the group break sitting on my desk at work. I'm dying to just crack it open to see what box # we have.
coltsnsox07
02-27-2012, 09:42 PM
Group break I was in box 1 Millard Fillmore 2/4(I won it!), box 2 Cleveland/Stephenson dual 1/1.
kyle1707
02-27-2012, 10:14 PM
I sold my 4 base cards and cabinet cut for 253 from FF penn ave
Takes a nice chunk out of price that leaf oval office does not have..
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