'Skins may lose 2nd pick... Wow

[Grza]

Schefter just tweeted that the Redskins are being penalized draft picks for circumventing cap on latest free agents. Could void trade.

What an absolute f job from the league, I cant believe Goddell right now.

[jp98]

And I thought David Stern was bad for blocking the CP3 trade...wow.

[golferphil]

Schefter just tweeted that the Redskins are being penalized draft picks for circumventing cap on latest free agents. Could void trade.

What an absolute f job from the league, I cant believe Goddell right now.

Somewhere RG3 is holding his breath...

[asujbl]

The Schefter account tweeting is fake

[pryorfan2]

Does it have to be the 2nd pick??

[Grza]

The Schefter account tweeting is fake

Oh thank god, I was seriously going to be furious at the league again. And Im not even a Skins fan.

What a devious little punk, he fooled everyone with that account.

[asujbl]

Oh thank god, I was seriously going to be furious at the league again. And Im not even a Skins fan.

What a devious little punk, he fooled everyone with that account.

He got a lot of people - the Browns board was freaking out until I pointed out the actual account of Schefter - assuming you are reading the tweets I saw that is - which is about losing picks and voiding the trade.

[37Jetson]

The Redskins should be praying to god that their trade gets revoked. It will possibly go down as the worst trade in history when we see what 3 Top 10 picks bring the Rams.

[golferphil]

Oh, that's too bad. I would have enjoyed watching the stroke addicted36 would have had... :D

[longhrncardshop]

i didnt think that this was right because i didnt get a text about it like i do with every other NFL news

[Grza]

The Redskins should be praying to god that their trade gets revoked. It will possibly go down as the worst trade in history when we see what 3 Top 10 picks bring the Rams.

Haha, cant argue with this. Altho it would be horrendously wrong for the league office to do.

[addicted36]

The Schefter account tweeting is fake

The leagues approved the trade and I get all of shefters tweats and he never said this

[addicted36]

The Redskins should be praying to god that their trade gets revoked. It will possibly go down as the worst trade in history when we see what 3 Top 10 picks bring the Rams.

Reading between your dribble I can see that your not a fan of rg3. Care to actually say why you dislike his game instead of just looking like another ignorant redskins hater?

[addicted36]

Oh, that's too bad. I would have enjoyed watching the stroke addicted36 would have had... :D

I just got out of the hospital Saturday my friend. After the news that we didn't break any rules and the league decided to steal our money had this been true this very well might have sent me over the edge lol. No more trips for me please

[Whodatiz]

Haha, you're rich.

Reading between your dribble I can see that your not a fan of rg3. Care to actually say why you dislike his game instead of just looking like another ignorant redskins hater?

[jp98]

Reading between your dribble I can see that your not a fan of rg3. Care to actually say why you dislike his game instead of just looking like another ignorant redskins hater?

Are the Redskins good enough to have haters?

And please don't call me one. I have no problem with them, just poking fun Alex:p;)

[xbignick]

Reading between your dribble I can see that your not a fan of rg3. Care to actually say why you dislike his game instead of just looking like another ignorant redskins hater?

" But let's not jump to conclusions. RGIII could be better than the average second overall pick. In fact, he could be the best second overall pick ever. So how good does RGIII have to be to justify this trade?
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Given the discounted value of the future draft picks, the total price the Redskins paid was 753.5 eCAVOA. That price translates to a CAV of 113.0, comparable to Tom Brady's current production to date (109 CAV). For the Redskins to get the equivalent value from RGIII as they spent acquiring him, he must produce at least as much as Tom Brady. If RGIII merely lives up to his eCAVOA, he'll finish his career having slightly outperformed David Garrard (61 CAV). Because all-time-great quarterbacks are rare commodities, the Redskins likely lost value both on paper and in reality.
"

[avjp87]

" But let's not jump to conclusions. RGIII could be better than the average second overall pick. In fact, he could be the best second overall pick ever. So how good does RGIII have to be to justify this trade?
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Given the discounted value of the future draft picks, the total price the Redskins paid was 753.5 eCAVOA. That price translates to a CAV of 113.0, comparable to Tom Brady's current production to date (109 CAV). For the Redskins to get the equivalent value from RGIII as they spent acquiring him, he must produce at least as much as Tom Brady. If RGIII merely lives up to his eCAVOA, he'll finish his career having slightly outperformed David Garrard (61 CAV). Because all-time-great quarterbacks are rare commodities, the Redskins likely lost value both on paper and in reality.
"

It's called a Jump to Conclusions Mat

[asujbl]

Reading between your dribble I can see that your not a fan of rg3. Care to actually say why you dislike his game instead of just looking like another ignorant redskins hater?

Dribble?

Drivel.

[Razorsharp79]

RG3 will be a mediocre QB/possibly a bust for all they are giving up to get him. He is not going to make them a playoff/SB contender...but gives me a reason to watch the Skins play at least so will wait and see if I am a fool or a genius...haha been a fool before so here goes nothing

[go_steelers07]

Somewhere RG3 is holding his breath...

i would be holding my breath hoping to NOT get picked by the Skins..... :)

[addicted36]

Are the Redskins good enough to have haters?

And please don't call me one. I have no problem with them, just poking fun Alex:p;)

As much as the next team who just got shafted for millions by the league after being told that they didn't break any rules I suppose

[addicted36]

" But let's not jump to conclusions. RGIII could be better than the average second overall pick. In fact, he could be the best second overall pick ever. So how good does RGIII have to be to justify this trade?
-
Given the discounted value of the future draft picks, the total price the Redskins paid was 753.5 eCAVOA. That price translates to a CAV of 113.0, comparable to Tom Brady's current production to date (109 CAV). For the Redskins to get the equivalent value from RGIII as they spent acquiring him, he must produce at least as much as Tom Brady. If RGIII merely lives up to his eCAVOA, he'll finish his career having slightly outperformed David Garrard (61 CAV). Because all-time-great quarterbacks are rare commodities, the Redskins likely lost value both on paper and in reality.
"

Let's consider this for a moment....nah made up numbers like this are for nerds. The thing your not getting about this is the impact the rookie wage scale plays into this. This is the first trade with that in place. I think the idea that high picks are not valuable is long gone. I think this becomes a new norm. Second thought if you were the patriots would you trade brady for 2 first round picks and a second? Another thought is that its common knowledge the browns offered the same picks for the 2nd round pick too. That's called market value. Last thought. Not since the 1960s have the redskins had a franchise qb. The price for one for this team cannot be understated

[xbignick]

Let's consider this for a moment....nah made up numbers like this are for nerds. The thing your not getting about this is the impact the rookie wage scale plays into this. This is the first trade with that in place. I think the idea that high picks are not valuable is long gone. I think this becomes a new norm. Second thought if you were the patriots would you trade brady for 2 first round picks and a second? Another thought is that its common knowledge the browns offered the same picks for the 2nd round pick too. That's called market value. Last thought. Not since the 1960s have the redskins had a franchise qb. The price for one for this team cannot be understated

1. Made up? Yes, everything you cannot comprehend is made up. I hope you do not believe in the thought or possible reality of a God or any kind because that would be contradictory and make you a hypocrite.
2. Consider the pay of those you would have drafted in the future.
3. The Redskins did indeed lose this trade.
4. Trade Brady? You misinterpreted the results. They're valuing production. Think of it as baseball WAR.
5. The value of something is not increased because of a singular demand; it would be a market one, and even then you would have to compare it with other players, not within the market for one player.

[freethrowtommy]

Let's consider this for a moment....nah made up numbers like this are for nerds. The thing your not getting about this is the impact the rookie wage scale plays into this. This is the first trade with that in place. I think the idea that high picks are not valuable is long gone. I think this becomes a new norm. Second thought if you were the patriots would you trade brady for 2 first round picks and a second? Another thought is that its common knowledge the browns offered the same picks for the 2nd round pick too. That's called market value. Last thought. Not since the 1960s have the redskins had a franchise qb. The price for one for this team cannot be understated

Really? This is what you sound like...

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbQZ1KSHIbbhBgBoEI99Eh95kzu3VJcu5HSqCpymqasb0e0b20zphty_Ckgw

[blingbrian]

it's like cam newton all over again

[Whodatiz]

Haha...think someone doesn't understand the concept of market value. I bet you're one of those individuals that believes that there is such a thing as a "market wage".

Let's consider this for a moment....nah made up numbers like this are for nerds. The thing your not getting about this is the impact the rookie wage scale plays into this. This is the first trade with that in place. I think the idea that high picks are not valuable is long gone. I think this becomes a new norm. Second thought if you were the patriots would you trade brady for 2 first round picks and a second? Another thought is that its common knowledge the browns offered the same picks for the 2nd round pick too. That's called market value. Last thought. Not since the 1960s have the redskins had a franchise qb. The price for one for this team cannot be understated

[addicted36]

1. Made up? Yes, everything you cannot comprehend is made up. I hope you do not believe in the thought or possible reality of a God or any kind because that would be contradictory and make you a hypocrite.

Freak out much or are you really trying to start a religious discussion with me on the forum? As far as not comprehending pal unless your mrs cleo how the hell do you or the idiot you stole this from have any idea about the future of rg3? And for that matter was the imaginary number you stated for 3 or 2 first round picks? We only gave up 2 first round picks and a second round pick.


2. Consider the pay of those you would have drafted in the future.

Yes consider we don't have that to pay which means we have more money for other things. After getting slapped with the 36 million dollar fine not having to pay the two first rounders that trade works for us much better then before


3. The Redskins did indeed lose this trade.

More idiotic speculation. We addressed the biggest need of the team with the trade and rg3 has yet to play a down in the league. because you say we lost doesn't mean we did. Time will tell


4. Trade Brady? You misinterpreted the results. They're valuing production. Think of it as baseball WAR.

Then answer my question. Would tom brady be traded for 2 first round and a 2nd round pick? Of course not. What would carolina want for cam newton this year? I bet that wouldn't be enough


5. The value of something is not increased because of a singular demand; it would be a market one, and even then you would have to compare it with other players, not within the market for one player.

The point is two nfl franchises believed that was the market price for rg3 and were willing to pay it. The point you think he's not worth it really matters nothing in the grand scheme of things. 2 nfl teams disagree

[addicted36]

Haha...think someone doesn't understand the concept of market value. I bet you're one of those individuals that believes that there is such a thing as a "market wage".

Market value - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_value)

I'm on my phone so that was the easiest to copy. Market value is what someone is willing to pay for a given item. It is the value of an asset for trade in an open market. Both the browns and the redskins were willing to give those picks to the rams for that pick and two first rounders and a second rounder was the value of the #2 overall pick

[chipmaster]

As a die hard skins fan, I cringed when I heard what we gave up. I pray that RG3 is the real deal. Everyone can take shots at what the skins did, but RG3 posesses all of the tangibles that great quarterbacks have - this guy is leaps and bounds above Michael Vick. The skins needed to take a chance at getting the franchise QB - I can understand that.

What if Indy decides to take RG3, and Luck is available? That's a real possibility.

[Whodatiz]

Wiki? Really man? Shame on you.

Market value - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_value)

I'm on my phone so that was the easiest to copy. Market value is what someone is willing to pay for a given item. It is the value of an asset for trade in an open market. Both the browns and the redskins were willing to give those picks to the rams for that pick and two first rounders and a second rounder was the value of the #2 overall pick

[HBMC]

As a die hard skins fan, I cringed when I heard what we gave up. I pray that RG3 is the real deal. Everyone can take shots at what the skins did, but RG3 posesses all of the tangibles that great quarterbacks have - this guy is leaps and bounds above Michael Vick. The skins needed to take a chance at getting the franchise QB - I can understand that.

What if Indy decides to take RG3, and Luck is available? That's a real possibility.

For your franchise's sake, I hope so.

RG3's intangibles include having and using his brain & good work ethic. :)!

[Drdduet]

I really hope I'm wrong but RGIII will not succeed in the NFL. He certainly benefits from all the Cam hype and Cam's success. I like RGIII and wish him the best, but he will get a GM and coach fired.

[jusdukky]

I really hope I'm wrong but RGIII will not succeed in the NFL. He certainly benefits from all the Cam hype and Cam's success. I like RGIII and wish him the best, but he will get a GM and coach fired.

And what pray tell are you basing this statement on?? Inquiring minds want to know!! Please explain your claim that RGIII will "not" succeed in the NFL.

[twil978]

You cannot put a price on a franchise QB that could lead your team for 10+ years. If he turns out to live up to the "hype", they'll talk about how the Rams didn't get enough.

[washingtonmark]

How is he leaps and bounds above Vick without ever playing a snap in the NFL? Vick is the all time leading rushing quarterback, he has a rocket arm and great escape ability. Maybe you ment Marcus Vick?

[addicted36]

As a die hard skins fan, I cringed when I heard what we gave up. I pray that RG3 is the real deal. Everyone can take shots at what the skins did, but RG3 posesses all of the tangibles that great quarterbacks have - this guy is leaps and bounds above Michael Vick. The skins needed to take a chance at getting the franchise QB - I can understand that.

What if Indy decides to take RG3, and Luck is available? That's a real possibility.

Then luck who is a native to washington dc comes come and we still win. We can't lose

[BostonNut]

Uh...they're the Redskins....

Isn't Deion Sanders still on the payroll?

Then luck who is a native to washington dc comes come and we still win. We can't lose

[addicted36]

Wiki? Really man? Shame on you.

I know I know but I was on my phone lol

[addicted36]

For your franchise's sake, I hope so.

RG3's intangibles include having and using his brain & good work ethic. :)!

And don't forget his miltary background. The guys got it all. Faster then most every wr in the draft, stronger arm and better long ball then luck...Will it tanslate to nfl success? Who knows. Anyone saying they do is lying.

[xbignick]

Haha...think someone doesn't understand the concept of market value. I bet you're one of those individuals that believes that there is such a thing as a "market wage".

Yes, because to give you a recent analogy the market for Albert Pujols would relied solely on the interest of the Cardinals and the Angels (and any other teams) and not any former contracts (A-Gon, Howard) and possible future contracts to be doled out (Fielder). You definitely don't compare similar players to gauge price, definitely. Product comparison? Stupid. Tide big vs. Tide small is the way to price match! YEAH!
Herp derp.

[xbignick]

Freak out much or are you really trying to start a religious discussion with me on the forum? As far as not comprehending pal unless your mrs cleo how the hell do you or the idiot you stole this from have any idea about the future of rg3? And for that matter was the imaginary number you stated for 3 or 2 first round picks? We only gave up 2 first round picks and a second round pick.



Yes consider we don't have that to pay which means we have more money for other things. After getting slapped with the 36 million dollar fine not having to pay the two first rounders that trade works for us much better then before



More idiotic speculation. We addressed the biggest need of the team with the trade and rg3 has yet to play a down in the league. because you say we lost doesn't mean we did. Time will tell



Then answer my question. Would tom brady be traded for 2 first round and a 2nd round pick? Of course not. What would carolina want for cam newton this year? I bet that wouldn't be enough



The point is two nfl franchises believed that was the market price for rg3 and were willing to pay it. The point you think he's not worth it really matters nothing in the grand scheme of things. 2 nfl teams disagree


You threw out a Harvard study and can barely comprehend my points and you want me to answer questions for you? You cannot even gauge proper value versus the number of current and future picks.

[MasterPattie]

It's called a Jump to Conclusions Mat

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[xbignick]

"The Redskins traded their first and second round picks this year, along with their 2013 and 2014 first round picks to move into the number two position in the draft. They've mortgaged the farm, again, to sell tickets, jerseys, and false promise. But don't take my word for it. Here are football players weighing in on the trade (via Dan Steinberg):
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LMFAOOOOOO the Redskins gave up that ricky williams #@#@#@#@. LOL a whole draft for RG3 LOL I'm dying LOL I'm gonna wear a skins hat tonight!
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— DARNELL DOCKETT (@ddockett) March 10, 2012
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Wow skins never to be outdone its great to get RG3 but whos gonna help him the next 3yrs?
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— Clinton Portis (@TheRealC_Portis) March 10, 2012
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For the Redskins next trade how about Redskins park and Fed Ex field for a bridge or team to nowhere!
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— Mark May (@mark_may) March 10, 2012
"

[addicted36]

Uh...they're the Redskins....

Isn't Deion Sanders still on the payroll?

Really snarky comment from you. Thanks for living up to your reputation. I noticed you turned tail and ran away after I challenged you on your comparison of actual cheating (spygate) and us not cheating (salary gate). I figured someone claiming from boston might actually know that the redskins started out there and might not hate them so much but eh who knows lol

[addicted36]

Uh...they're the Redskins....

Isn't Deion Sanders still on the payroll?

Yes, because to give you a recent analogy the market for Albert Pujols would relied solely on the interest of the Cardinals and the Angels (and any other teams) and not any former contracts (A-Gon, Howard) and possible future contracts to be doled out (Fielder). You definitely don't compare similar players to gauge price, definitely. Product comparison? Stupid. Tide big vs. Tide small is the way to price match! YEAH!
Herp derp.

Dumbass we are talking about football. Wth does baseball have to do with football contracts? Get a clue man

[xbignick]

Dumbass we are talking about football. Wth does baseball have to do with football contracts? Get a clue man

Yes, because when I said to "GIVE YOU A RECENT ANALOGY" I definitely was giving you a baseball story and not trying to relay a market concept to you in a recent social situation. Total genius up in here. You can read and comprehend. AWESOME. TELL ME MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU MISREAD.

[addicted36]

You threw out a Harvard study and can barely comprehend my points and you want me to answer questions for you? You cannot even gauge proper value versus the number of current and future picks.

You copied and pasted some bullspit you found claiming to know the future. You didn't even say that wasn't yours in your post or respond to what I said about the study etc. Your just a troll. But any way you earn the jr nostradomus award today. Have anything else for us to laugh at you want to share today?

[xbignick]

I went to the store today because I needed something for my headache. Now I saw they had advil big and small. I compared within the brand of advil. It totally makes sense to not compare to the generic and other brands! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

[xbignick]

You copied and pasted some bullspit you found claiming to know the future. You didn't even say that wasn't yours in your post or respond to what I said about the study etc. Your just a troll. But any way you earn the jr nostradomus award today. Have anything else for us to laugh at you want to share today?

I know! Harvard studies are totally bullspit, especially when you read them and comprehend them from the direct source! Tell me more about how the Redskins are totally going to be awesome and okay and haven't mortgaged the future to sell now and not win the division! GOGOGO!

[xbignick]

addicted36's posts > Harvard studies BECAUSE "BULLSPIT"

[xbignick]

Oh wait. He's a redskins fan. Totally fair and objective, right?

[xbignick]

I'll leave you alone now, because this argument has strayed away from statistics and projections (what I posted) and more towards personal insults and hopes and dreams (what you posted and I lol'ed at). See 'ya!

[addicted36]

Yes, because when I said to "GIVE YOU A RECENT ANALOGY" I definitely was giving you a baseball story and not trying to relay a market concept to you in a recent social situation. Total genius up in here. You can read and comprehend. AWESOME. TELL ME MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU MISREAD.

Show me where I said give us a baseball anology please. What you misread and completely don't get is the impact the rookie wage scale is going to have on future trades. Now teams aren't afraid to trade for top picks because of the cost of missing on someone like they used to. What your clinging to is that baseball has any influence on nfl trades or nfl contracts which they don't. But keep at it dumbass I'm enjoying this

[addicted36]

I'll leave you alone now, because this argument has strayed away from statistics and projections (what I posted) and more towards personal insults and hopes and dreams (what you posted and I lol'ed at). See 'ya!

Run and hide man...run and hide. As for the idea that harvard can predict an atheletes future this isn't moneyball is it? If stats were all you needed then no one would get it wrong ever right?

[WilsonValdez]

Wow, addicted36....you are, umm......dedicated!

[BostonNut]

Yeah...he is the only person I know who simply can't be wrong about anything.

Wow, addicted36....you are, umm......dedicated!

[BostonNut]

You might be the brightest cookie I have ever come across.

And last I checked I posted LAST in that thread. It would appear you tucked your tail and ran...

Really snarky comment from you. Thanks for living up to your reputation. I noticed you turned tail and ran away after I challenged you on your comparison of actual cheating (spygate) and us not cheating (salary gate). I figured someone claiming from boston might actually know that the redskins started out there and might not hate them so much but eh who knows lol

[thebigcheese44]

Dear God... Skins haters? C'mon now... How can you hate on a team who has been to the playoffs twice since 1999? :)

[hhmag70]

Wow, addicted36....you are, umm......dedicated!

I am thinking of a completely different word.

[addicted36]

You might be the brightest cookie I have ever come across.

And last I checked I posted LAST in that thread. It would appear you tucked your tail and ran...

Your move clown boy

[blingbrian]

i bet if RG3 was white, we would all be ok with this trade..

[BostonNut]

You're up brain child.

And please, please, please don't tell me you think Vermont is in Boston....

Your move clown boy

[Skoots]

You copied and pasted some bullspit you found claiming to know the future. You didn't even say that wasn't yours in your post or respond to what I said about the study etc. Your just a troll. But any way you earn the jr nostradomus award today. Have anything else for us to laugh at you want to share today?

Redskin fan is ornery cause they gots all them teeth and no toothbrush. Fly Eagles Fly.

[WilsonValdez]

I am thinking of a completely different word.

I was trying to be "diplomatic" :x