Got it! The Kobe Prime Silhouette from Perferred

[kobe824]

I think I got a steal since the one one ebay now is about double what I paid for mine.

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k565/jamison2356/KobePrimePreferred.jpg

[CurryCrew30]

Congrats! That is one sick card! I really love the look of these!

[Apakalypto]

I'm Don't really care for Kobe. I think he is a great player.

But that is one SICK CARD!!!!!!:eek:

[forgiven1]

Sick card bro! I'm jealous!

[kobemagee29]

Did you get yours for $499 on ebay?

[JLR0747]

That's one pretty card!

[Tarheelsfan2012]

wow GREAT card, very sick patch!

[Burt-Reynolds]

Did you get yours for $499 on ebay?

I was wondering the same thing, but unless op paid for overnight it wouldn't be delivered yet. Still whoever got that bin for 499 yesterday got a crazy steal. I cant believe panini only made 10 of these. For the price these are gonna sell for I wont be able to get one which sucks. Even if i had the money id rather buy a exquisite anyway

[kobemagee29]

I was wondering the same thing, but unless op paid for overnight it wouldn't be delivered yet. Still whoever got that bin for 499 yesterday got a crazy steal. I cant believe panini only made 10 of these. For the price these are gonna sell for I wont be able to get one which sucks. Even if i had the money id rather buy a exquisite anyway

I agree. I would like to get one also, but if I'm paying anything over $500, it's not going to be a panini card. It would have to be an exquisite card of kobe.

[JK8283]

maaaaan these things look really nice, but as others have said, can't justify throwing down that kind of scratch when there are other high-profile pieces (Exquisite, Black) that are the same price

[UltimateDeron]

That's awesome. I picked up the Rose from the same set last night. His is only to 5. You got a huge steal on yours. Congrats.

[dmogull]

$500 is fair for that card (remember Kobe Limited Logos are in the $3k range)

[Burt-Reynolds]

I agree. I would like to get one also, but if I'm paying anything over $500, it's not going to be a panini card. It would have to be an exquisite card of kobe.

Yeah paying anything over 300 for any type of Kobe Panini auto is unfathomable to me, way too many nice UD Kobe pieces to be had out there. I would of been willing to spend about 500 for one of these, but that's it. Not knocking this Kobe card at all though, because it is definitely the nicest Kobe card Panini had ever made. Still shocked only 10 of these exists though.

[JK8283]

maaaaan these things look really nice, but as others have said, can't justify throwing down that kind of scratch when there are other high-profile pieces (Exquisite, Black) that are the same price

To be clear, I meant the prices that these things are normally going to go for ($1500+). For $500 I would gladly pick one of these up.

[UltimateDeron]

Here's another. The 3rd out of 10 to hit ebay!

2012 Panini Preferred Kobe Bryant Auto Patch /10 SICK Patch & On Card Autograph | eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230761752895)

[kobe824]

Here's another. The 3rd out of 10 to hit ebay!

2012 Panini Preferred Kobe Bryant Auto Patch /10 SICK Patch & On Card Autograph | eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230761752895)

The patch on that is nasty!!!

[kobemagee29]

That's awesome. I picked up the Rose from the same set last night. His is only to 5. You got a huge steal on yours. Congrats.

Nice pickup on the rose, but if im spending that much, I'm buying a rookie card of his.

[UltimateDeron]

Nice pickup on the rose, but if im spending that much, I'm buying a rookie card of his.

I didn't pay the BIN price...lol

[Burt-Reynolds]

Hmmm. I just got a thought. I wonder if these Crown cards could be a cross release insert. I mean it has nothing really in common with the overall Preferred set design, plus I find it hard to believe they limited the star patch autos so low, only 10 kobes 5 roses, etc. Maybe they have some more of these saved for other releases. Just a thought and a hope.

[UltimateDeron]

Hmmm. I just got a thought. I wonder if these Crown cards could be a cross release insert. I mean it has nothing really in common with the overall Preferred set design, plus I find it hard to believe they limited the star patch autos so low, only 10 kobes 5 roses, etc. Maybe they have some more of these saved for other releases. Just a thought and a hope.

If that was the case then the Kobe wouldn't be /10. It would be /25 or /50. They wouldn't number the same card to /10 in multiple releases. That would confuse the crap out of the collectors.

[kobemagee29]

I didn't pay the BIN price...lol

With a BIN of $1500 & the short time it was up, im guessing you still paid close to the Bin price.

[jr24ai3]

Very nice card. I also like the Cramer's Choice autographs.

[crazymj]

With a BIN of $1500 & the short time it was up, im guessing you still paid close to the Bin price.

Rick makes offers that they can't refuse. I think I saw a glimpse of that auction before it got taken down. If the #1/5, definitely over 1k

[GarnettFan4Life]

That is a sweet looking card, congrats

[sammythebull]

Rick makes offers that they can't refuse. I think I saw a glimpse of that auction before it got taken down. If the #1/5, definitely over 1k

Do you realize that you could have A LOT of much nicer Rose cards for 1K than that card? It my eyes, that card is still not worth 1K, and the people spending almost 1K on the Kobe's are out of their mind. They really aren't that nice of cards. The only thing they have going for them is the larger patch. The rest of the card is the same old Panini garbage.

For the person that stated this is the best card design from Panini, I have to disagree. There are a few Limited /5 patch cards that smoke this card IMHO. Truthfully, I would much rather have the following card for $250 than one of these silhouettes for 1K. A much nicer looking card and /5.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-11-Panini-Limited-Kobe-Bryant-Material-Monikers-Prime-AU-5-/280844225785?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item41639eccf9#ht_500wt_1294

[fitch123]

Do you realize that you could have A LOT of much nicer Rose cards for 1K than that card? It my eyes, that card is still not worth 1K, and the people spending almost 1K on the Kobe's are out of their mind. They really aren't that nice of cards. The only thing they have going for them is the larger patch. The rest of the card is the same old Panini garbage.


I don't know. I absolutely despise Panini and their products, but this card looks pretty damn nice.

[azsportsguy21]

sick kobe man.

[ninjacookies]

you definitely got a steal, comparatively speaking

im with the consensus though, I could never spend that much on a kobe patch card from panini, no matter how nice it was

But beautiful looking card!

[kobe824]

Well lucky for myself and Rick we like them and are able to add them to our collection. Great pick-up on the Rose! IMO and I'm not a Panini fan at all (they piss me off alot!). These are the nicest patch auto cards that have come out in awhile. If this was a card put out by Upper Deck most of you would talk about how great they. I just find it funny that people wouldn't pay $500 for this card eith an auto/huge patch but will pay $5000++ for a Fleer Retro Jordan PMG with green foil on it a UNC jersey. Maybe I am the crazy one????

[TungTLe]

i had a feeling you picked up that Rose UltimateDeron.. im jealous! lol

[SportsItUpCards]

What's that sucka numbered to? SICK!!! :D

[siumaisifu]

Nasty patch kobe auto man. congrats!

[sammythebull]

If this was a card put out by Upper Deck most of you would talk about how great they.

Nope. It has nothing to do with the manufacturer. It has to do with the quality of the card itself. When has Upper Deck released a "high end" patch card with an auto that was nothing more than a gloss photo with no variation or foil? Never. They put more effort into their card design and quality. Were they perfect? No. But they knew how to design a nice card. That is a fact.

I just find it funny that people wouldn't pay $500 for this card eith an auto/huge patch but will pay $5000++ for a Fleer Retro Jordan PMG with green foil on it a UNC jersey. Maybe I am the crazy one????

The thing is, "an auto or patch" card doesn't make a well designed basic card any less attractive. Cards are essentially eye candy for one to look at. They serve no other purpose. PMG's look nice which is why people want them.

[tristan20]

That Kobe is sick

[kobe824]

Nope. It has nothing to do with the manufacturer. It has to do with the quality of the card itself. When has Upper Deck released a "high end" patch card with an auto that was nothing more than a gloss photo with no variation or foil? Never. They put more effort into their card design and quality. Were they perfect? No. But they knew how to design a nice card. That is a fact.



The thing is, "an auto or patch" card doesn't make a well designed basic card any less attractive. Cards are essentially eye candy for one to look at. They serve no other purpose. PMG's look nice which is why people want them.

Welcome to the boards. So a PMG Jordan is worth that much because foil looks nice??? Did the look of foil appreciate that much or just the market manipulation. I think they are great looking cards (PMG) but when it's all said and doneI would rather have a card that has ink from the athlete and a game worn patch just my preference, but that's what make the hobby great we can all collect what we each like. Some people like autos, some like RCs, some like to buy different color foil :)!

[tristan20]

Patch over overproduced inserts anyday

[sammythebull]

Welcome to the boards. So a PMG Jordan is worth that much because foil looks nice??? Did the look of foil appreciate that much or just the market manipulation. I think they are great looking cards (PMG) but when it's all said and doneI would rather have a card that has ink from the athlete and a game worn patch just my preference, but that's what make the hobby great we can all collect what we each like. Some people like autos, some like RCs, some like to buy different color foil :)!

Truthfully bud, I would rather have a well designed patch auto as well. However, well designed and classy looking are the keys to what I choose to buy. I have a bunch of Panini cards but I am very cautious and very picky as to which ones I like and keep. This card doesn't do it for me. It is too bland with, as I stated before, no variations. I do think you got a great deal for what you paid in comparison to what these cards are selling for. I would be flipping it to buy a few cards I do like, if I would have saw it before you. :D

[UltimateDeron]

With a BIN of $1500 & the short time it was up, im guessing you still paid close to the Bin price.

You would be wrong then.

[UltimateDeron]

Well lucky for myself and Rick we like them and are able to add them to our collection. Great pick-up on the Rose! IMO and I'm not a Panini fan at all (they piss me off alot!). These are the nicest patch auto cards that have come out in awhile. If this was a card put out by Upper Deck most of you would talk about how great they. I just find it funny that people wouldn't pay $500 for this card eith an auto/huge patch but will pay $5000++ for a Fleer Retro Jordan PMG with green foil on it a UNC jersey. Maybe I am the crazy one????

Haha... I guess we are both crazy. I don't care what others think. It's my own money or yours is yours. I can't wait to receive the Rose that I bought. It's the one card from Panini Preferred that I wanted and I was able to get it on basically the first day the product was released.

Congrats again on the Kobe. I wish I had the money to get one of them as well. I love that Panini used a older jersey on the Kobe. Looks so awesome.

[penny1fan]

i personally love these cards! i was sad to see Penny didnt make it into them :(

[UltimateDeron]

i had a feeling you picked up that Rose UltimateDeron.. im jealous! lol

Haha... Thanks buddy! :)!

I just wish Deron Williams and Eric Gordon were in the set as well.

[UltimateDeron]

Here is the Kevin Durant Silhouette Auto Jersey /10. Look what it sold for, and it's the jersey version. Can't wait to see the Patch /5 of Durant. I guess it could be numbered to a lower or higher number.

2011 PANINI PREFERRED CROWN ROYALE KEVIN DURANT AUTO JERSEY 3/10 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-PANINI-PREFERRED-CROWN-ROYALE-KEVIN-DURANT-AUTO-JERSEY-3-10-/300679266339?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item4601e18023)

[crazymj]

Haha... Thanks buddy! :)!

I just wish Deron Williams and Eric Gordon were in the set as well.

At least there's couple eric gordon autos as well, but stickers.

[UltimateDeron]

Do you realize that you could have A LOT of much nicer Rose cards for 1K than that card?

Find me another on card auto patch of Rose that is limited to 10 or less that I can obtain for under 1K.

It really doesn't matter which Rose you show me since I already own all of them and I don't buy multiple copies of the same card.

[UltimateDeron]

At least there's couple eric gordon autos as well, but stickers.

No thanks. Stickers and I don't get along too well :D

[sammythebull]

Find me another on card auto patch of Rose that is limited to 10 or less that I can obtain for under 1K.

It really doesn't matter which Rose you show me since I already own all of them and I don't buy multiple copies of the same card.

The point is you over paid and you know it. That card is the worst card in your collection and you will regret it as soon as you lay it next to a quality card.

[mimi mo money]

this is one of the nicest Kobe cards I've ever seen "." [and yes, Panini, as a general rule, is garbage] but the silhouette's are top of the line, imo.

[volblorx8634]

The point is you over paid and you know it. That card is the worst card in your collection and you will regret it as soon as you lay it next to a quality card.

Whether he overpaid or not doesn't matter, and whether its the worst or best card in his collection doesn't matter either. The point is its a card he's been wanting for a while, that he was able to get at a price he was happy with.

I think they're both great pickups, and beautiful cards, and wish I had the kind of money to pick up those kinda of cards, while you don't. That's all good, to each his own. But we should allow them to enjoy their cards, whether we like their design/player/patch/etc. :)!

Nice pickups guys!

[forgiven1]

Dont listen to the haters guys..These Silo auto patches look bad ass!..great pickups! I want one for sure...

[penny1fan]

Whether he overpaid or not doesn't matter, and whether its the worst or best card in his collection doesn't matter either. The point is its a card he's been wanting for a while, that he was able to get at a price he was happy with.

I think they're both great pickups, and beautiful cards, and wish I had the kind of money to pick up those kinda of cards, while you don't. That's all good, to each his own. But we should allow them to enjoy their cards, whether we like their design/player/patch/etc. :)!

Nice pickups guys!

agreed :)!

[forgiven1]

Do you realize that you could have A LOT of much nicer Rose cards for 1K than that card? It my eyes, that card is still not worth 1K, and the people spending almost 1K on the Kobe's are out of their mind. They really aren't that nice of cards. The only thing they have going for them is the larger patch. The rest of the card is the same old Panini garbage.

For the person that stated this is the best card design from Panini, I have to disagree. There are a few Limited /5 patch cards that smoke this card IMHO. Truthfully, I would much rather have the following card for $250 than one of these silhouettes for 1K. A much nicer looking card and /5.

10-11 Panini Limited Kobe Bryant Material Monikers Prime AU /5 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-11-Panini-Limited-Kobe-Bryant-Material-Monikers-Prime-AU-5-/280844225785?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item41639eccf9#ht_500wt_1294)

Your kidding me......As a patch collector myself i would rather have the preffered silo auto patch then the one you posted in that link....I have a few of those already and they arent nothing special...small little patch windows dont do it for me...i guess to each their own though....

[UltimateDeron]

The point is you over paid and you know it. That card is the worst card in your collection and you will regret it as soon as you lay it next to a quality card.

Hahahaha....

I'll be the judge of that. Lucky for me I get to compare it to the other cards in my collection.

For the record, I don't think I overpaid (You don't even know what I paid. That's the funny thing) but sometimes people do have to overpay for cards that they want. Just so you know.

[UltimateDeron]

Whether he overpaid or not doesn't matter, and whether its the worst or best card in his collection doesn't matter either. The point is its a card he's been wanting for a while, that he was able to get at a price he was happy with.

I think they're both great pickups, and beautiful cards, and wish I had the kind of money to pick up those kinda of cards, while you don't. That's all good, to each his own. But we should allow them to enjoy their cards, whether we like their design/player/patch/etc. :)!

Nice pickups guys!

Thanks. Appreciate the comments. Never heard of this sammybull guy before, but he seems to care about what others spend their money on a little too much. It's our own money and our own collections. We don't tell others what to buy and he shouldn't tell us what to buy. Simple as that.

[kobemagee29]

Here is the Kevin Durant Silhouette Auto Jersey /10. Look what it sold for, and it's the jersey version. Can't wait to see the Patch /5 of Durant. I guess it could be numbered to a lower or higher number.

2011 PANINI PREFERRED CROWN ROYALE KEVIN DURANT AUTO JERSEY 3/10 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-PANINI-PREFERRED-CROWN-ROYALE-KEVIN-DURANT-AUTO-JERSEY-3-10-/300679266339?pt=US_Basketball&hash=item4601e18023)

so do you think the $600 price the durant sold for was also a good buy?

[kobe824]

so do you think the $600 price the durant sold for was also a good buy?

I think the point is it doesn't matter what he thinks. Obviously to someone it was worth $600 to get in there collection and to get bid up to $600 someone thought it was worth 590, 580, etc. Think about how many Durant, Rose, and kobe collectors there are and look how low there print runs are I know for people here it's hard to believe but most people outside of the BO cards are actually interested in paying reasonable prices for nice cards. Just because a guy on a board or in a magazine thinks a card is worth x or y really means nothing. The true "value" is what something is goes for on an open market. It's free market. If we went by the prices on this board no one would ever have a card worth anything until thy pulled the same card thereselves.

Anyways this is my last post. I always laugh at these long rants on these message boards and here I am on one. Whoopsie!

Just one more thing the guy who posted the limited Kobe auto #/5 saying it was nicer than the Shiloeutte Prime, in the word of Chris Carter....Come-on man!!!

[GrangerCollectr]

That is one beautiful card! One of the best designs Panini has ever made....Congratulations on the pickup!

[pingbling23]

alot of haters? nice pickup, these are some of the sweetest cards i have seen and i love the design of the card.

[Randomcards]

alot of haters? nice pickup, these are some of the sweetest cards i have seen and i love the design of the card.

Yeah i don't get it, these are some of the best and biggest patches out there.

I too love the Material Monikers cards, but that patch fails when compared to this one, whether is /5 or not, this patch is still better. :)!

IMO of course

I would take one of the Colossal Patches over the monikers any day. And I'm truly a fan of the moniker cards. Wanted to collect the set but the small print run on most of them made my mind up for me.

[AlabamaSlamma]

christ, people, why does every thread have to turn into a flame war about pricing/shilling/lowballing/God knows what else? people pay what they want to pay for something they enjoy, and they want to share it with the community. no need for the nonsense whatsoever.

amazing pickups for both Deron and kobe. panini really hit the mark with this set.

[sammythebull]

Yeah i don't get it, these are some of the best and biggest patches out there.

I too love the Material Monikers cards, but that patch fails when compared to this one, whether is /5 or not, this patch is still better. :)!

IMO of course

I would take one of the Colossal Patches over the monikers any day. And I'm truly a fan of the moniker cards. Wanted to collect the set but the small print run on most of them made my mind up for me.

As I stated before, you all are blinded by the patch. I care about the card design as a whole, and not just how big the patch is. Panini knows that you suckers will drool over a large patch so they disregard the rest of the card in their so called "high end product".

[sammythebull]

Your kidding me......As a patch collector myself i would rather have the preffered silo auto patch then the one you posted in that link....I have a few of those already and they arent nothing special...small little patch windows dont do it for me...i guess to each their own though....

Some people would also choose a Kia over a Mercedes because they lack the ability to assess quality and a classier design. These silhouttes are a poor attempt at classy done in the cheapest way. Enjoy your Kia.

[JK8283]

I would probably murder someone to find the Rose that Rick picked up. That might be one of the most immediately luring card designs I've seen (at least for me). My head probably says I'd rather pick up an spx radiance or a black gold but my heart wants the silo because that patch is really really nice looking.

Great pickups guys.

[kobemagee29]

I agree, these are some amazing looking cards. You can't deny that.
All I was saying was I myself for that kind of money, would rather put it towards
a rookie. The $600 someone paid for the 1color Durant is crazy.

[minnesotachill]

The Prime Patch Auto's may be the nicest cards Panini makes in the next 2 years. I think alot of people are maybe realizing this as well.

[forgiven1]

Some people would also choose a Kia over a Mercedes because they lack the ability to assess quality and a classier design. These silhouttes are a poor attempt at classy done in the cheapest way. Enjoy your Kia.

LOL...Actually i own a BMW...And i disagree with you 100%...The silos auto patches are way nicer than the monikers..You must be blind or something..theres nothing special about those cards...small patch and mediocre design....What are you puffin on anyways?...pass that shiznit my way..lol

[sammythebull]

LOL...Actually i own a BMW...And i disagree with you 100%...The silos auto patches are way nicer than the monikers..You must be blind or something..theres nothing special about those cards...small patch and mediocre design....What are you puffin on anyways?...pass that shiznit my way..lol

Ok...I will play your game even though you have a bias towards a larger patch. It's beyond me why you just don't buy a game worn jersey and make out with it at night.

Silhouettes - Large patch, poor design, no variations in texture, unframed auto, basic gloss card, limited design work, /10

Cost Currently = $1,200+ (TBD)

Monikers - Small patch, great design, refractor-like finish, framed auto, tons of detail and design, /5

Cost of Last Sale in BIN = $250


Now answer this. If that silhouette card lacked that patch, would you still have such a hard on over it? Is the design that desirable to you? I didn't think so so stop arguing with me and making comments on my posts. I stated my opinion and you are just confirming it. You are getting a hard on over a large patch on a poorly designed and cheaply made card. I mean, come on. Panini won't even spare a little foil for the "crown royale" logo. How cheap do you have to be Panini? We have had gloss cards since the 80's, and NO ONE does a flat out gloss card with no variations in texture any longer. That is the cheapest and shittiest looking design possible.

This is not a UD/Panini battle. Topps is absolutely smoking Panini in the other sports were they are directly competing. Panini is in last place to everyone when it comes to quality. They are milking this contract for all they can get, not realizing that the hobby is all about return customers. They are about selling quantity, not quality. The NBA did them a favor and gave them the market. Panini didn't do anything to earn it. Panini will go down. Mark my words.

[forgiven1]

Ok...I will play your game even though you have a bias towards a larger patch. It's beyond me why you just don't buy a game worn jersey and make out with it at night.

Silhouettes - Large patch, poor design, no variations in texture, unframed auto, basic gloss card, limited design work, /10

Cost Currently = $1,200+ (TBD)

Monikers - Small patch, great design, refractor-like finish, framed auto, tons of detail and design, /5

Cost of Last Sale in BIN = $250


Now answer this. If that silhouette card lacked that patch, would you still have such a hard on over it? Is the design that desirable to you? I didn't think so so stop arguing with me and making comments on my posts. I stated my opinion and you are just confirming it. You are getting a hard on over a large patch on a poorly designed and cheaply made card. I mean, come on. Panini won't even spare a little foil for the "crown royale" logo. How cheap do you have to be Panini? We have had gloss cards since the 80's, and NO ONE does a flat out gloss card with no variations in texture any longer. That is the cheapest and shittiest looking design possible.

This is not a UD/Panini battle. Topps is absolutely smoking Panini in the other sports were they are directly competing. Panini is in last place to everyone when it comes to quality. They are milking this contract for all they can get, not realizing that the hobby is all about return customers. They are about selling quantity, not quality. The NBA did them a favor and gave them the market. Panini didn't do anything to earn it. Panini will go down. Mark my words.

You have your opinion and i have mine...Like i said i personally own 2 of those monikers so i dont have a reason to bash them..They are decent cards but nothing special....I think the Silos are way nicer and i would spend 3x more for one....Thats just me though...No need to get your panties all in a bunch just cuz i dont agree with you....Dont be mad homie..Panini is here to stay and if you dont like them then dont buy them...Its really that simple.:D

P.s...For the record i prefer Upperdeck over Panini...Theres only a few sets of Panini that i actually like and this is one of them...My collection is 80% Upperdeck..

[sammythebull]

P.s...For the record i prefer Upperdeck over Panini...Theres only a few sets of Panini that i actually like and this is one of them...My collection is 80% Upperdeck..

We do have a few things in common then. I do have some Panini cards, but I am very picky with them. I guess I am just not moved as much as some of you on these silhouettes. No harm, no foul.

[SportsItUpCards]

We do have a few things in common then. I do have some Panini cards, but I am very picky with them. I guess I am just not moved as much as some of you on these silhouettes. No harm, no foul.

You sir have NO taste. Imo... The card with the small patch that you showed is UGLY!!!! To the 100th power lol. Not just because the small patch, but the card design itself is NASTY!!! and not the "nasty" you're thinking of, but butt ugly. I wouldn't want that card for free!

Btw, nice user name......... lol

[suki24]

Ok...I will play your game even though you have a bias towards a larger patch. It's beyond me why you just don't buy a game worn jersey and make out with it at night.

Silhouettes - Large patch, poor design, no variations in texture, unframed auto, basic gloss card, limited design work, /10

Cost Currently = $1,200+ (TBD)

Monikers - Small patch, great design, refractor-like finish, framed auto, tons of detail and design, /5

Cost of Last Sale in BIN = $250


Now answer this. If that silhouette card lacked that patch, would you still have such a hard on over it? Is the design that desirable to you? I didn't think so so stop arguing with me and making comments on my posts. I stated my opinion and you are just confirming it. You are getting a hard on over a large patch on a poorly designed and cheaply made card. I mean, come on. Panini won't even spare a little foil for the "crown royale" logo. How cheap do you have to be Panini? We have had gloss cards since the 80's, and NO ONE does a flat out gloss card with no variations in texture any longer. That is the cheapest and shittiest looking design possible.

This is not a UD/Panini battle. Topps is absolutely smoking Panini in the other sports were they are directly competing. Panini is in last place to everyone when it comes to quality. They are milking this contract for all they can get, not realizing that the hobby is all about return customers. They are about selling quantity, not quality. The NBA did them a favor and gave them the market. Panini didn't do anything to earn it. Panini will go down. Mark my words.

This guy knows what he's talking about. The design itself is piss poor and very basic. The huge patch makes up for it.

[lb_sa]

This guy knows what he's talking about. The design itself is piss poor and very basic. The huge patch makes up for it.

Agree 110%.

Panini will cut cost in any possible way, no matter what people want or like.

[SportsItUpCards]

This guy knows what he's talking about. The design itself is piss poor and very basic. The huge patch makes up for it.

Haven't you ever heard of simple and beautiful?

Imo, a card doesn't have to look crazy in design for it to be beautiful... this card is the best design i've seen in a long time, and maybe forever!!! lol that's how good it is. So yeah, I guess to each their own.

[lb_sa]

Haven't you ever heard of simple and beautiful?

Imo, a card doesn't have to look crazy in design for it to be beautiful... this card is the best design i've seen in a long time, and maybe forever!!! lol that's how good it is. So yeah, I guess to each their own.

I personally think this is a great card, but I think the point is, it is the SAME thing with every Panini product. They never have any type of finish besides the plain, basic type stuff.

[PackAttack419]

these silhouette patch cards are the best things panini's put out so far IMO

wish they had this with dirk, rajon, or lin...

[SportsItUpCards]

these silhouette patch cards are the best things panini's put out so far IMO

wish they had this with dirk, rajon, or lin...

DIRK!!!!!!! me too... :cool:

[sammythebull]

Haven't you ever heard of simple and beautiful?

Imo, a card doesn't have to look crazy in design for it to be beautiful... this card is the best design i've seen in a long time, and maybe forever!!! lol that's how good it is. So yeah, I guess to each their own.

That's a SSSTTTRRRRREEEECCCCHHHHH. Best design ever? Hilarious, and not even close.

Next thing I know, you will be stating UD and Topps cards have too much foil and are too classy to own. Even that statement would be a little closer to the truth than Panini designing any card that had the best card design ever.

[ninjacookies]

IMO, the design of the silhouette's is not much more different than the 08-09 RPA'S...just flipped from landscape to portrait with a few tweaks and the die-cut design.

However, the die-cut design was pretty much copy pasta from their 09-10 Crown Royale Football RPA's. Not much ingenuity, but the large letter patches are what really save them.

I can understand the price on your Kobe due to the patch on it, but the single color Durant...still scratching my head on that one.

[lac013]

I spend a lot of money opening wax and this was a product I actually thought would be worth it. Checkout my box breaks and you could only imagine how pissed and let down I am again. I spent 2k last month on exquisite for 2 boxes and was very happy even tho i over paid 3x the original amount. The prime silo's are georgeus in my opinion and in my bucket I love exquisite but a total of maybe 50 cards at best 5 durants, 10 kobe, 10 rose, etc in the whole product is awful at $200 a box. Sorry guys just still venting after opening more panini junk.
P.S. Great cards guys "Rose & Kobe" I overpay all the time for cards that are /10 and lower if I want them than there worth it all day long. Your collectors and this isnt your job so the money isnt relevant

[dmogull]

u guys want to talk about shilling check out this cluster f&ck of an auction.

top two bidders have combined 200 bid retractions in last 30 days....

kobe prim sil - shill city (http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-12-Panini-Crown-Royale-Kobe-Bryant-Prime-Exquisite-Limited-Logo-Patch-Auto-10-/180841639970)

[forgiven1]

u guys want to talk about shilling check out this cluster f&ck of an auction.

top two bidders have combined 200 bid retractions in last 30 days....

kobe prim sil - shill city (http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-12-Panini-Crown-Royale-Kobe-Bryant-Prime-Exquisite-Limited-Logo-Patch-Auto-10-/180841639970)

Dude..This pisses me off..

[sammythebull]

u guys want to talk about shilling check out this cluster f&ck of an auction.

top two bidders have combined 200 bid retractions in last 30 days....

kobe prim sil - shill city (http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-12-Panini-Crown-Royale-Kobe-Bryant-Prime-Exquisite-Limited-Logo-Patch-Auto-10-/180841639970)

I knew that card wasn't suppose to go that high! LOL.

The guy with a feedback number of 399 is "ameermd". There have been threads about him on the forums before about bidding up all the Kobe cards. Someone told me he only collects Exquisite cards so he is most likely shilling this one too.

[Burt-Reynolds]

u guys want to talk about shilling check out this cluster f&ck of an auction.

top two bidders have combined 200 bid retractions in last 30 days....

kobe prim sil - shill city (http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-12-Panini-Crown-Royale-Kobe-Bryant-Prime-Exquisite-Limited-Logo-Patch-Auto-10-/180841639970)

Cool. Maybe this is really a 500-600 dollar card and I still have a hope of owning one. Probably not, but it's nice to dream.

[SportsItUpCards]

That's a SSSTTTRRRRREEEECCCCHHHHH. Best design ever? Hilarious, and not even close.

Next thing I know, you will be stating UD and Topps cards have too much foil and are too classy to own. Even that statement would be a little closer to the truth than Panini designing any card that had the best card design ever.

Who died and made you "card design king"??? I'm still living so i'll tell you! :p

Yes, best design i've seen in a while........... I say a while cause I can't really think of a better design off the top of my head. I'm sure there are a few that I like but this set is right up there on the list.

If you don't like this design then GREAT!!! more for me... But who are you to tell me that i'm wrong? Everybody has their own taste in cards, so there's no right or wrong answer, period.

Me personally, the Panini card that you showed earlier in this thread, the one you said was better... plain SUCKS!!! I have to be very honest and say, I wouldn't want that card for FREE! I wouldn't even want the trouble of selling that card, because it surely wouldn't stay in my PC. So you get the point? Everybody has their own taste, and I think your taste if faaaaaaaaar off what I would ever like.

Yes, i'll repeat it, I think this is one of the best designs EVER!!! If I can't come up with a better card design that I like, then this gotta be it.

[lambeauleap87]

You know what's great? Everyone can have their own opinion and buy what they want. If someone would rather have one of the Silhouettes, or a Monikers, or whatever, nothing's stopping you from buying that one. We all have different tastes; stop hating just because someone likes something different.

[sammythebull]

Me personally, the Panini card that you showed earlier in this thread, the one you said was better... plain SUCKS!!! I have to be very honest and say, I wouldn't want that card for FREE!


1.) I never stated the comparison card was flat out better. I stated I would rather own that card for $250, than the poorly designed silhouette patch card for $1,000+. There is a difference you can't seem to grasp.

2.) You wouldn't take that Kobe Monikers autographed patch card /5 for free? Really? I find that hard to believe by viewing the low end PC card pick ups you have started threads about on this forum. Any Kobe auto would be a step up for your PC.


How about letting people who actually buy cards of this caliber argue the point instead of arguing a point that doesn't pertain to you and your low end PC? That might make more sense.

[crm44]

The patch auto versions are the best basketball design since black and exquisite imo. They're very sp insuring I will never get my hands on one that I really want. I personally prefer jumbo patch on card auto's as opposed to tiny patch sticker autos. I would obviously expect to pay a significantly higher amount for a significantly better card, imo of course.

[sammythebull]

The patch auto versions are the best basketball design since black and exquisite imo. They're very sp insuring I will never get my hands on one that I really want. I personally prefer jumbo patch on card auto's as opposed to tiny patch sticker autos. I would obviously expect to pay a significantly higher amount for a significantly better card, imo of course.

Sticker autos should not exist and whoever came up with the idea of them should be slapped. An autograph card means something because it was in the players presence and they touched it.

None of the cards being discussed have sticker autos so I am not sure how that came into play.

People always want things they can't have. Why don't all of you call panini and just tell them to send you a jumbo patch piece? That should make you happy seeing as the actual quality of the card means nothing to you.

[FLMARLIN]

The point is you over paid and you know it. That card is the worst card in your collection and you will regret it as soon as you lay it next to a quality card.

And probably would be the best n yours :eek:












J/k


Sick pickups, these cards are sick.

[sammythebull]

And probably would be the best n yours :eek:

J/k


Sick pickups, these cards are sick.


I wouldn't go there guy if you don't want to look like a tard.

[paul06901]

160 bid retractions combined with the 2 top bidders? Let's see how high we can get this card and hope some money bags fool bites anyways and outbids us!

Sickening.

[SportsItUpCards]

1.) I never stated the comparison card was flat out better. I stated I would rather own that card for $250, than the poorly designed silhouette patch card for $1,000+. There is a difference you can't seem to grasp.

2.) You wouldn't take that Kobe Monikers autographed patch card /5 for free? Really? I find that hard to believe by viewing the low end PC card pick ups you have started threads about on this forum. Any Kobe auto would be a step up for your PC.


How about letting people who actually buy cards of this caliber argue the point instead of arguing a point that doesn't pertain to you and your low end PC? That might make more sense.

1) No one said that you said that... I just said that I don't like that card design and wouldn't want that card for free! I grasp it don't worry, I grasp it. Do you graps that every one has their own taste?


2) No I wouldn't want it for free. Let me get this straight, you stalked my threads just to see my pickups??? For your information, i've slowed down on collecting because I pretty much have everything that I needed for my PC, so if you don't see anything nice in the threads you stalked, it's because I haven't found anything big for my collection lately... They'll pop up though, all in good time, but thanks for your concern with my pc. ****************** :devil:

This pertains to me very much! Who are you to say I don't have a say on card designs? So let me get this straight, because YOU think my pc is not worthy, then I don't have a say in which card design is better? Did I get that right? :confused:

You're a tool!!! smh Oh wait, tools have purposes..... (yes, I stole that line :)! )

[UltimateDeron]

Look what came in the mail today :D

#3/5
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll436/ultimate_deron/Derrick%20Rose%20-%20PC/PaniniPreferredSilhouettePatch5.jpg

[Burt-Reynolds]

Over 2k for the Kobe now with about a hour left.

[sammythebull]

over 2k for the kobe now with about a hour left.

people are trippin!

[kobe824]

Awesome card Rick!

[Burt-Reynolds]

people are trippin!

No. Two people are trippin, and that's the problem.

[sammythebull]

No. Two people are trippin, and that's the problem.

You are right, Burt. Even the jersey version is selling above what it should.


Three people actually raised the price. As I stated before, the one guy is "ameermd" (399 feedbacks) who others have complained about before. The guy jacks the prices of auctions up and retracts bids like you wouldn't believe.

[Burt-Reynolds]

No. Two people are trippin, and that's the problem.

Bidding Details (http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidderProfile&mode=1&item=180841639970&aid=a***l&eu=2jGxUeneuS2m%2FS9XMcfpAiHh6RgWleUi&view=NONE&ssPageName=PageBidderProfileViewBids_None_ViewLink)

And some poor bastard just took the bait. Can't really feel sorry for the buyer of this card either, they just fell victim to one of the most obvious and poorly attempted shill jobs I've ever seen on Ebay. All you had to do was look at this bid history to know to walk away. Sad thing is that this auction has probably set the market on this card now, and the next one to pop up on Ebay will go for 2k again. Well done douchebags well done. Hopefully the buyer doesn't pay.

[crm44]

People over pay for more than cards everyday, does that also make you angry? I would love to see some of your best cards btw. Love the Rose Ultimate, thanks for sharing.

[sammythebull]

Bidding Details (http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidderProfile&mode=1&item=180841639970&aid=a***l&eu=2jGxUeneuS2m%2FS9XMcfpAiHh6RgWleUi&view=NONE&ssPageName=PageBidderProfileViewBids_None_ViewLink)

And some poor bastard just took the bait. Can't really feel sorry for the buyer of this card either, they just fell victim to one of the most obvious and poorly attempted shill jobs I've ever seen on Ebay. All you had to do was look at this bid history to know to walk away. Sad thing is that this auction has probably set the market on this card now, and the next one to pop up on Ebay will go for 2k again. Well done douchebags well done. Hopefully the buyer doesn't pay.

I know the high bidder's username (Taiwan buyer), but I am not emailing him to warn him simply because that is considered sale interference and I don't need an ebay suspension.

[sammythebull]

People over pay for more than cards everyday, does that also make you angry? I would love to see some of your best cards btw. Love the Rose Ultimate, thanks for sharing.

Rose Ultimate? Are you kidding me? Where?

[crazymj]

Wow this thread is still going on?

Looks like kobe sold for $2200+ Yea definitely shill bid pretty hard but looks like the winner of the auction is legit, 3% bidding activity, 0 retraction and 130 positive. Unfortunately the shill bidder probably made him pay couple hundred dollars more but obviously there's couple people at least thats willing to pay over 1k for the card. And congrat on the OP of grabbing one yourself and i would assume at a good deal.

[dmogull]

if anyone doesn't already know, it is very easy to report an item that is being blatantly shilled:

Report Item --> Listing Practices --> Fraudulent Listing Activities --> the Seller is using other accounts to inflate price

Enough people report the same item and it is toast....

[SportsItUpCards]

Why is everybody so worried that this card was shilled, but when it comes to Jordan inserts it's all good............. Why?

It was shilled? PROVE IT!!!!!!

[UltimateDeron]

Rose Ultimate? Are you kidding me? Where?

He is telling me ("Ultimate" Deron) that he likes my Rose...lol

[UltimateDeron]

Wow this thread is still going on?

Looks like kobe sold for $2200+ Yea definitely shill bid pretty hard but looks like the winner of the auction is legit, 3% bidding activity, 0 retraction and 130 positive. Unfortunately the shill bidder probably made him pay couple hundred dollars more but obviously there's couple people at least thats willing to pay over 1k for the card. And congrat on the OP of grabbing one yourself and i would assume at a good deal.


Yes. You're correct that the high bidder was legit. I know who won, and he is definitely a legit buyer. He's bought a few very high end cards from me in the past.

[crazymj]

if anyone doesn't already know, it is very easy to report an item that is being blatantly shilled:

Report Item --> Listing Practices --> Fraudulent Listing Activities --> the Seller is using other accounts to inflate price

Enough people report the same item and it is toast....

Just because there's people inflating the price (without the intent of paying) doesn't really mean the seller is shilling it himself. I think its important for ebay to allow only like 1 bid retraction per month and only 3 unpaid strikes per year. That would put an end of all this shell bidding (since then they woudl ahve to keep creating account and using 0 feedback account which is more obvious to spot).

[WillC]

As I stated before, you all are blinded by the patch. I care about the card design as a whole, and not just how big the patch is. Panini knows that you suckers will drool over a large patch so they disregard the rest of the card in their so called "high end product".

I actually agree with this completely.

These Silhouette cards have beautiful patches, there is no denying that. But the card design doesn't exactly yell "high end" to me.

Maybe we were spoiled by Exquisite.

But lets be honest, these Silhouette cards aren't as nice as UD Black, Chronology or even some of the Ultimate card designs. I wish Panini would invest more time and money into improving the design of their cards.

[TungTLe]

Look what came in the mail today :D

#3/5
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/ll436/ultimate_deron/Derrick%20Rose%20-%20PC/PaniniPreferredSilhouettePatch5.jpg

so freaking sick.. apparently another board member here just pulled one as well about a day ago.. so that leaves 3 left if any.. :(

[dmogull]

Just because there's people inflating the price (without the intent of paying) doesn't really mean the seller is shilling it himself. I think its important for ebay to allow only like 1 bid retraction per month and only 3 unpaid strikes per year. That would put an end of all this shell bidding (since then they woudl ahve to keep creating account and using 0 feedback account which is more obvious to spot).

Yes, I understand it very well may not be the sellers doing, but what is important is that the auction is pulled so no unsuspecting buyer can get screwed over....

[UltimateDeron]

so freaking sick.. apparently another board member here just pulled one as well about a day ago.. so that leaves 3 left if any.. :(

Any scan or pic???

[JK8283]

I would also love to know who pulled this - thinking about making a run at one of these at the right price