Found these old cards

[Takaziro]

Postimage.org / gallery - DP820670, DP802061, DP802062, DP802063, DP802064, DP817001, DP817018 (http://postimage.org/gallery/74sspsm/)
(If you scroll down the page more cards should load up) - some are pictured in groups.
This is my grandfathers old collection. some beautifully looking pieces here. could you guys identify these cards and tell me what their value might be?

Thanks.

Edit: here are more scans of the rest of the collection for your enjoyment: http://imgur.com/a/7lUmJ#0

[itsinthecards]

They should be graded by PSA for vintage. nice cards you have some $$ if you garde them.Also welcome to the blowout boards.

[onenineeightsix]

Postimage.org / gallery - DP820670, DP802061, DP802062, DP802063, DP802064, DP817001, DP817018 (http://postimage.org/gallery/74sspsm/)
This is my grandfathers old collection. some beautifully looking pieces here. could you guys identify these cards and tell me what their value might be?

Thanks.


Collection looks to be all either early 1900's to about 1953 or so. You should set up on the PSA forum's and get these prepped properly for grading.

Professional Sports Authenticator (PSA) & PSA/DNA Authentication Services (http://www.psacard.com)

Understand it would be a hefty investment to have these slabbed and graded but ultimately it would be worthwhile in the end if you ever try to sell.

Pro's for grading would be the premium in price you can get for a top grade, especially on the older of the cards you have. A difference between an 8 or a 6 can mean hundreds upon hundreds of dollars. Also you would have these cards slabbed so you would never have to worry about any variances in condition (another thing collectors find absolutely necessary when buying vintage). Good luck and keep us posted!!

[Takaziro]

They should be graded by PSA for vintage. nice cards you have some $$ if you garde them.Also welcome to the blowout boards.

Thanks, I was referred here from reddit. I understood you guys are the real experts:) How does that work? are they worth grading at all? What kind of value i have here? got some big names, does that mean anything?

[frozenntimesports]

Holy crap!

Seriously though I don't see anything there you are going to retire on, but the collection has value if it is authentic (I don't doubt you, I doubt everything).

PSA grading will give a clear-cut condition and you will get top dollar that way. If you are near the area PM me and I'd be happy to introduce you to some of the vintage dealers in the area, if not, I can at least get you started with PSA.

Definitely go PSA on this, not Beckett.

[Takaziro]

Collection looks to be all either early 1900's to about 1953 or so. You should set up on the PSA forum's and get these prepped properly for grading.

Professional Sports Authenticator (PSA) & PSA/DNA Authentication Services (http://www.psacard.com)

Understand it would be a hefty investment to have these slabbed and graded but ultimately it would be worthwhile in the end if you ever try to sell.

Pro's for grading would be the premium in price you can get for a top grade, especially on the older of the cards you have. A difference between an 8 or a 6 can mean hundreds upon hundreds of dollars. Also you would have these cards slabbed so you would never have to worry about any variances in condition (another thing collectors find absolutely necessary when buying vintage). Good luck and keep us posted!!

Thanks a lot for the reference to the PSA forums, im applying for an account there immediately. When you say 'hefty investment" are you talking about thousands of dollars? I have some of them (the ones pictured in groups) framed behind glasss that my grandfather setup. It looks much nicer than slabs.

[Takaziro]

Holy crap!

Seriously though I don't see anything there you are going to retire on, but the collection has value if it is authentic (I don't doubt you, I doubt everything).

PSA grading will give a clear-cut condition and you will get top dollar that way. If you are near the area PM me and I'd be happy to introduce you to some of the vintage dealers in the area, if not, I can at least get you started with PSA.

Definitely go PSA on this, not Beckett.

I'm actually in NYC area. Whats the difference between the two companies?

[Coug46n2]

Holy crud, those are (or appear to be) an incredibly impressive collection. Hopefully they have been out of the light wherever they were stored?

As others have mentioned, sending them to PSA is certainly the way to go. The investment up front (cost of shipping, cost per card to grade, cost of return shipping/insurance) will be a bit steep depending on how many cards you send in. But the return will be incredible. Just one of those cards will pay for the entire grading process.

If they are all real, again, we don't doubt you we just doubt the entire industry, that collection is already better than 95% of those of us on this site. And that's saying something.

Please keep us informed how it goes!

[onenineeightsix]

Thanks a lot for the reference to the PSA forums, im applying for an account there immediately. When you say 'hefty investment" are you talking about thousands of dollars? I have some of them (the ones pictured in groups) framed behind glasss that my grandfather setup. It looks much nicer than slabs.

Sorry for how vague I was, I dont think if you were to send in all of those cards at once would you even approach a thousand dollars for the grading service for everything. Im not 100% sure and it appears that KaraandMelliesDaddy had a more vast handle on this than me.

Also, im sure the glass framing looks much better than a slab would but it terms of appraising a value for vintage you almost HAVE to have them slabbed by PSA. I hate to say it but its an absolute must.

[Takaziro]

Holy crud, those are (or appear to be) an incredibly impressive collection. Hopefully they have been out of the light wherever they were stored?

As others have mentioned, sending them to PSA is certainly the way to go. The investment up front (cost of shipping, cost per card to grade, cost of return shipping/insurance) will be a bit steep depending on how many cards you send in. But the return will be incredible. Just one of those cards will pay for the entire grading process.

If they are all real, again, we don't doubt you we just doubt the entire industry, that collection is already better than 95% of those of us on this site. And that's saying something.

Please keep us informed how it goes!

Thanks a lot, very reassuring :) I got a lot of surprising responses.

[coyne81486]

Holy crap!

Seriously though I don't see anything there you are going to retire on, but the collection has value if it is authentic (I don't doubt you, I doubt everything).

PSA grading will give a clear-cut condition and you will get top dollar that way. If you are near the area PM me and I'd be happy to introduce you to some of the vintage dealers in the area, if not, I can at least get you started with PSA.

Definitely go PSA on this, not Beckett.

agree with that 100% your grandfather had a sweet coll

[bryun]

Are you interested in selling any of these?

[itsinthecards]

Thanks a lot, very reassuring :) I got a lot of surprising responses.

Again welcome Do Not Sell Anything To Anyone Anywhere Till You have these Graded by Only PSA Take your time with all of this again don't Rush into anything These types of card are rare with condition. Really watch how you hold them. I say this because they should not be under glass. Only in a PSA slab. Even if they get grades of 4 or 6 of 10 They can still sell for real big $$ . Just put some of the names into eBay search look at graded ones and non graded ones if you can find some on there. Good Luck again take your time read everything you can about each card. That is a project but will really pay off if you take your time with it.

[Coug46n2]

Again welcome Do Not Sell Anything To Anyone Anywhere Till You have these Graded by Only PSA Take your time with all of this again don't Rush into anything These types of card are rare with condition. Really watch how you hold them. I say this because they should not be under glass. Only in a PSA slab. Even if they get grades of 4 or 6 of 10 They can still sell for real big $$ . Just put some of the names into eBay search look at graded ones and non graded ones if you can find some on there. Good Luck again take your time read everything you can about each card. That is a project but will really pay off if you take your time with it.

Great advice to the new member, spot on in all you said.

[Takaziro]

Are you interested in selling any of these?

Maybe, if the price is right.

[Tyler]

Thanks, I was referred here from reddit. I understood you guys are the real experts:) How does that work? are they worth grading at all? What kind of value i have here? got some big names, does that mean anything?

Glad you made it out of there alive.

[itsinthecards]

Maybe, if the price is right.

Really sorry said anything now. unless you're really hard up for $$ I guess listen to offers. But you really don't know what you have there till you get them graded. That will not hurt the values of these cards only big up the value. Which will not drop in price if they are graded. Also after you get them graded set up an eBay account use buy it now. Also as far as the money to get these graded. Take your time you don't have to send them all at one time. With that said my grandfather always told me with $ investment "You have to lay it down to pick more up" so save up or something and get those cards graded before you lose. And will always think about it the rest of you life. Again take your time. I hope it works out for you with just alittle time.

[houdini]

Here is an idea - your grades will be different though

1953 Topps Mays - 1953 Topps #244 Willie Mays PSA 6 EX-MT | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-Topps-244-Willie-Mays-PSA-6-EX-MT-/190636884094?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2c62d8007e)

1954 Topps Aaron rookie - 1954 Topps Baseball Hank Henry Aaron Rookie Card PSA 8 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-Baseball-Hank-Henry-Aaron-Rookie-Card-PSA-8-/300684986759?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item460238c987)

1954 Topps Ted Williams - 1954 Topps #1 - Ted Williams - PSA 7 -- Boston Red Sox HoF | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-1-Ted-Williams-PSA-7-Boston-Red-Sox-HoF-/330661825989?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item4cfcfb0dc5)

1933 Delong Lou Gehrig - 1933 DeLong 7 Lou Gehrig PSA 3 (1988) | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-DeLong-7-Lou-Gehrig-PSA-3-1988-/310373664363?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item4843b6466b)

1951 Bowman Roy Campanella - 1951 BOWMAN ROY CAMPANELLA #31 NM/MT+ PSA 8.5 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1951-BOWMAN-ROY-CAMPANELLA-31-NM-MT-PSA-8-5-/250964993412?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item3a6eade584)

[houdini]

T202 Ty Cobb - AWESOME T202 #65 FAST WORK AT THIRD-TY COBB CHARLEY O'LEARY PSA 7 NM CARD! | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/AWESOME-T202-65-FAST-WORK-AT-THIRD-TY-COBB-CHARLEY-OLEARY-PSA-7-NM-CARD-/140716667750?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item20c35df366)

1915 Cracker Jack Joe Jackson - 1915 Cracker Jack #103 Joe Jackson - PSA 5 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1915-Cracker-Jack-103-Joe-Jackson-PSA-5-/251010430213?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item3a71633505)

[go_steelers07]

I have some of them (the ones pictured in groups) framed behind glasss that my grandfather setup. It looks much nicer than slabs.

hopefully they are not glued to a backing................

[houdini]

T202 Cobb / Moriarty - 1912 TY COBB & MORIARTY HASSAN TRIPLE FOLDER | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1912-TY-COBB-MORIARTY-HASSAN-TRIPLE-FOLDER-/200662892981?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2eb870c1b5)

1952 Topps Yogi Berra - 1952 Topps 191 Yogi Berra PSA 6 (1648) | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-191-Yogi-Berra-PSA-6-1648-/130629274656?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item1e6a1c8c20)

1938 Goudey Joe DiMaggio rookie - 1938 Goudey #274 - Joe DiMaggio (RC) - PSA 4 -- New York Yankees HoF Rookie | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1938-Goudey-274-Joe-DiMaggio-RC-PSA-4-New-York-Yankees-HoF-Rookie-/330682665803?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item4cfe390b4b)

[The Chad]

wowzers, there is some nice stuff there.

[houdini]

1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson - Jackie Robinson 1948 PSA 6 EX-MT | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jackie-Robinson-1948-PSA-6-EX-MT-/120881111562?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item1c2513620a)

1953 Topps Satchell Paige - SUPERB 1953 TOPPS #220 SATCHELL PAIGE PSA 8 NM-MT BROWNS BASEBALL CARD! | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPERB-1953-TOPPS-220-SATCHELL-PAIGE-PSA-8-NM-MT-BROWNS-BASEBALL-CARD-/140697359186?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item20c2375352)

1949 Bowman Satchell Paige - 1949 Bowman Satchell Paige (ROOKIE CARD!!!) Card #224 PSA 6 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1949-Bowman-Satchell-Paige-ROOKIE-CARD-Card-224-PSA-6-/230762458458?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item35ba83ad5a)

1943 R302-1 M.P. & CO. Pee Wee Reese - 1943 R302-1 M.P. & CO. PEE WEE REESE DODGERS PSA 8 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1943-R302-1-M-P-CO-PEE-WEE-REESE-DODGERS-PSA-8-/140488426212?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item20b5c342e4)

I think that identifies all the years and companies plus gives you a few actual card values (although yours will be worth less or more based on your grade).

I am not sure about the color cards without any names. If you get me the picture of a back, I can find them too.

[houdini]

To those of you outstanding BO members that are pm'ing this new member your crazy low-ball offers, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

I have NO NAMES and I am not interested in knowing who you are - but I am disgusted. BTW, that $1200 offer for the lot, %$%^%^$ you pal.

[hoopster3977]

To those of you outstanding BO members that are pm'ing this new member your crazy low-ball offers, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

I have NO NAMES and I am not interested in knowing who you are - but I am disgusted. BTW, that $1200 offer for the lot, %$%^%^$ you pal.

+1

Houdini, great job posting the links to auctions similar to the cards posted. I agree, lowball offers are disgusting. Reminds me of Mr. Mint, seems like others here are trying to follow in his footsteps.

[TheHeel]

$1200??????

That's a shame someone would pull that bullsh!t.

[clarencewhirly]

Houdini-

Your appraisal links are really unrealisitc. First off, they aren't completed sales, and obviously anyone can list anything for any amount and not sell it. Secondly, they are mostly insanely rare high grade examples which will not give an accurate representation of what the OP's cards are worth. For instance that 1953 Satchel PSA8 is listed for over $5k. OP's card is more like a 4. A 3.5 just sold for $150. While you did mention that price will vary by condition, it's important to note to a novice that this will easily be by a factor of 10 or more when compared to high grade vintage examples.

That being said, I agree with you about the $1200 offer, and really anyone sending the guy offers. To the OP--no one is going to give you a fair price for these (at least the high end cards) unless they are an expert who examines them in person or the cards are graded and authenticated. If I were you, I wouldn't even bother discussing the sale until then. The Joe Jackson, for example, looks sharp, and if real is worth a lot of money. However, there are a lot of reprints and it could have been trimmed or modified. No legitimate person is going to try to buy this from you without knowing for sure. Finding a trustworthy dealer in your area who will take a look at them without trying to lowball the price so he can buy them from you is the only way you're going to get a realistic valuation before having them all graded. Even if they do check out, you're probably better off consigning them to someone with more experience to sell them. Also, these arent glued to anything are they?

[jimssouvenirs]

To those of you outstanding BO members that are pm'ing this new member your crazy low-ball offers, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

I have NO NAMES and I am not interested in knowing who you are - but I am disgusted. BTW, that $1200 offer for the lot, %$%^%^$ you pal.

Unlike Houdini, I DO want to know who offered $1200 for the lot. Not that I probably couldn't guess.

OP, beautiful stuff, very well presented. You should show us some scans of the backs as well if you ever get a chance. Some nice color on some of your cards despite the fact that the edges aren't all great, not much creasing either. Definitely go PSA OR SGC on Pre-War stuff.

I don't have the cash to pony up for some of those cards, but if you need to move of the lower-conditioned lesser names and don't want to spend the money grading, feel free to let me know. You are more than welcome to post our deals for everyone's discretion before we agree on anything :)!

[clarencewhirly]

Unlike Houdini, I DO want to know who offered $1200 for the lot. Not that I probably couldn't guess.



Also, this.

[jimssouvenirs]

$1200??????

That's a shame someone would pull that bullsh!t.

Yet, shouldn't be a surprise in this economy. There are plenty of people on the boards who try to cut throats on $5-$10 cards, shouldn't surprise you with more valuable ones. There is also a great amount of risk with these.

[lobo_hacker]

-Keep pictures *and* scans of these in raw condition (front and back), then scan again when you have them graded. If selling to anyone that isn't personally inspecting these cards, you need to show the provenance and avoid dispute of slab tampering. This applies regardless of what company you go through to authenticate.

Good luck.

lobo_hacker

[dmogull]

To those of you outstanding BO members that are pm'ing this new member your crazy low-ball offers, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

I have NO NAMES and I am not interested in knowing who you are - but I am disgusted. BTW, that $1200 offer for the lot, %$%^%^$ you pal.

Seems to me the $1200 guy is not the only one trying to exploit the guy with the cards....trying to make a new friend are you? :)!

[TheHeel]

Seems to me the $1200 guy is not the only one trying to exploit the guy with the cards....trying to make a new friend are you? :)!

Houdini is a standup guy. I wouldn't go there.

[monkeymcgee]

OP: Just wanted to echo what the others have said. I'm no expert on vintage, but step 1 to selling in this hobby is knowing what you've got. And for these that means getting the PSA grade and stamp of approval.

Take your time with it. And unless you need money soon, I'd really consider holding until the economy is a little better. Just my 2 cents.

Good luck!

[dmogull]

Houdini is a standup guy. I wouldn't go there.

whatever...

Takaziro - get the cards properly slabbed and put them on ebay...your choice, but I wouldn't sell them to anyone on here or even a 'dealer', unless you are properly versed and cognizant of the value of the cards...

Chameleon Cards in downtown NYC is a great LCS once you have established the value of your cards...Steve is the owner and would probably help you out on how to unload them

good luck man.

[houdini]

Houdini-

Your appraisal links are really unrealisitc.

They aren't appraisals. They are examples. I do not appraise cards.

Seems to me the $1200 guy is not the only one trying to exploit the guy with the cards....trying to make a new friend are you? :)!

I will let this post of yours stand as an example of your character and integrity.

I never made an offer - nor do I buy high end cards. I am buying low grade 1968 Topps at the moment.

Actually, since you made the unfounded attack, I will disprove it.

My pm and Takaziro's reply:

You have what appears to be thousands and thousands of dollars worth of cards.

Get them graded first before you sell them.

Because you are new, some people might try to take advantage of you.

If you are worried about the cost of grading, I would grade one card - the 53 Mays would work - and then sell it on eBay (or wherever).

That will should easily pay for all your grading costs and then some.

1953 Topps #244 Willie Mays PSA 6 EX-MT | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-Topps-244-Willie-Mays-PSA-6-EX-MT-/190636884094?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2c62d8007e)

Incredible! Thanks a lot, I did receive some ridiculously low-ball offers from people here. Some guy offered me 1200 dollras for the whole collection.

Takaziro or any mod (I gladly give my permission) may verify whether this is true.

[krowsnest]

i made an offer not the 1200 one and only on 1 card it was apparently veryyy low i can't wait to see the grades!

[dmogull]

They aren't appraisals. They are examples. I do not appraise cards.



I will let this post of yours stand as an example of your character and integrity.

I never made an offer - nor do I buy high end cards. I am buying low grade 1968 Topps at the moment.

Actually, since you made the unfounded attack, I will disprove it.

My pm and Takaziro's reply:



Takaziro or any mod (I gladly give my permission) may verify whether this is true.

Yup, have you ever heard of a bait and switch tactic? It doesn't only refer to false advertising. I hope you are not offering your "friendly service and advice" only to try and scheme and connive this fella later after you gain his trust.

I sincerely hope my pessimism is proven to be unfounded....

[TheHeel]

Yup, have you ever heard of a bait and switch tactic? It doesn't only refer to false advertising. I hope you are not offering your "friendly service and advice" only to try and scheme and connive this fella later after you gain his trust.

I sincerely hope my pessimism is proven to be unfounded....

Wow........security issues.

[byronscott4ever]

Once they are graded, I believe the acronym is the VCP which discusses what similar cards have sold for in the past. I think it's a good lesson for any of us who have something and then someone tells us it's not that great but then is willing to make an offer on it. Those are some nice looking cards.

[houdini]

i made an offer not the 1200 one and only on 1 card it was apparently veryyy low i can't wait to see the grades!

I didn't mean that no one should make offers - even low offers to a certain degree - I just meant that no one should intentionally try to take advantage of him because he does not know exactly what he has. That is all I meant.

I apologize if it seemed I was accusing anyone.

Also, clarencewhirly, I do understand your point about how the examples are not reflected ended sales or the exact grade. They weren't meant to. I was just offering a link to the correct card that was psa graded.

[dmogull]

Wow........security issues.

When it comes to unsuspecting and ill versed people holding somewhat valuable vintage cards, yes, I brace for the worst. Too many times people not gotten the true value for their cards because some seemingly "nice knowledgeable fella working in the best interest of the seller" ends up screwing him over....royally.

[mmbtvs]

Once they are graded, I believe the acronym is the VCP which discusses what similar cards have sold for in the past. I think it's a good lesson for any of us who have something and then someone tells us it's not that great but then is willing to make an offer on it. Those are some nice looking cards.

Sorry but this drives me nuts. VCP isn't an acronym. It's an initialism.

[TheHeel]

When it comes to unsuspecting and ill versed people holding somewhat valuable vintage cards, yes, I brace for the worst. Too many times people not gotten the true value for their cards because some seemingly "nice knowledgeable fella working in the best interest of the seller" ends up screwing him over....royally.

I am going to leave it at this. I truly believe that if you are helping the guy out with links and telling him to research his material after he gets them graded there is no harm done. I told the OP to get his stuff graded, research his product and give me a fair number for 4 of the cards of a set I am collecting. I have no hidden agenda and I would bet my bottom dollar that Houdini does not have one as well. Take care.

[asw37]

Frankly, I wouldn't feel comfortable as the buyer or seller here even at $1200 (For the record, I didn't make an offer). From these basic scans its impossible to tell if they are real, fake, reprints, etc... I think, as the seller, the only thing to do, is to have the cards graded. Because if those cards came back as reprints or not authentic, 1200 would have seemed like a gift, and the buyer would have been the one out all the money. Its just too much of a crapshoot for both the buyer and the seller when these have not been graded. While I am not suggested that these cards are originals or reprints, I think you would certainly be safest getting them graded, because 1200 for a total crapshoot seems generous. Just my opinion.

[clarencewhirly]

this was a response to houdini but then i saw you addressed what i said in a later post so nevermind

[dmogull]

I am going to leave it at this. I truly believe that if you are helping the guy out with links and telling him to research his material after he gets them graded there is no harm done. I told the OP to get his stuff graded, research his product and give me a fair number for 4 of the cards of a set I am collecting. I have no hidden agenda and I would bet my bottom dollar that Houdini does not have one as well. Take care.

Fair enough. I actually wasn't referring to you anyhow...I was referring to Houdini. Have a good night.

[clarencewhirly]

Frankly, I wouldn't feel comfortable as the buyer or seller here even at $1200 (For the record, I didn't make an offer). From these basic scans its impossible to tell if they are real, fake, reprints, etc... I think, as the seller, the only thing to do, is to have the cards graded. Because if those cards came back as reprints or not authentic, 1200 would have seemed like a gift, and the buyer would have been the one out all the money. Its just too much of a crapshoot for both the buyer and the seller when these have not been graded. While I am not suggested that these cards are originals or reprints, I think you would certainly be safest getting them graded, because 1200 for a total crapshoot seems generous. Just my opinion.

I assume the lowballers are freerolling, not taking a risk. They'll pay by paypal and just file a claim if the cards aren't legit. If they were actually assuming risk a low offer could be considered fair, but I don't think this is their plan.

[californiakron]

Easy

1. Send to PSA get all graded, ect.
2. Contact Probstein123 on ebay and consign the lot to him(1 of 2 best vintage
consigners on ebay)
3. Get paid and not have to worry about anything else
:)!

[Tyler]

Yup, have you ever heard of a bait and switch tactic? It doesn't only refer to false advertising. I hope you are not offering your "friendly service and advice" only to try and scheme and connive this fella later after you gain his trust.

I sincerely hope my pessimism is proven to be unfounded....

I never really knew what a dick you were.

THE MORE YOU KNOW

[dmogull]

I never really knew what a dick you were.

THE MORE YOU KNOW

Yes, I can be a dick sometimes I know, but only when warranted.

[Tyler]

When it comes to unsuspecting and ill versed people holding somewhat valuable vintage cards, yes, I brace for the worst. Too many times people not gotten the true value for their cards because some seemingly "nice knowledgeable fella working in the best interest of the seller" ends up screwing him over....royally.

Yup, cause that describes Houdini.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/itrader.php?u=19260

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[dmogull]

Yup, cause that describes Houdini.

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/itrader.php?u=19260

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

To be honest I never even knew who Houdini was until a few days ago when he personally attacked me...

Besides being unwarranted the personal attack did not makes sense as he didn't read the thread. A guy who chooses to carry himself in this manner, I can't put past scheming, chicanery and deceptiveness.

[ifish73]

I don't know much on real vintage stuff but is the Fisher Cracker Jack rare? It would be neat to have a card of a player with the same last name as me.

[gopherfan]

I would suggest talking to Joe Orlando at PSA. He may be willing to work with you on grading fees to do this collection.

With a collection valued this high, I would go to an auction service. Not eBay. Again, if you are selling, I would get Joe Orlando (head of PSA) to make some suggestions for you. You are looking at a collection worth 6 figures if everything is legit and grades out well.

Good luck. I wish I had the money to buy these, but I don't think I could even give you a fair offer on one card let alone the whole lot.

Lastly, if someone did offer you $1200 for the lot, put them on the block list. In fact, list the name so we can all block them.

Best of luck,

Rob A.

[hearseguy]

If authentic the Cracker Jack Jackson is worth a nice chunk of change. You have a lot of great stuff there. I would start off by having all of the Cracker Jacks slabbed by SGC. SGC is the way to go with anything of that vintage.

Jeremy

[houdini]

I never really knew what a ### you were.

THE MORE YOU KNOW

Do you remember that crying thread about him wanting a Bryce Harper auto but horrible topps or bryce or whatever let autos in the product coming off the sticker?

I can't find the thread anymore so either a mod deleted it or someone asked that it be removed.

Anyway, I read it, summed it up, and posted succinctly. It was taken rather badly by this fellow and his pal. You know how that goes, Tyler. :devil:

So his response is to make these accusations and innuendos.

It really is laughable, but harmless. If my behavior in this thread or that one lowers anyone's opinion of me, that is probably for the best. :D

[BostonNut]

Gotta have thick skin on here pal.

If a few words get your panties in a bind then I suggest a new hobby such as quilt making.

Houdini is a class-act all around....

To be honest I never even knew who Houdini was until a few days ago when he personally attacked me...

Besides being unwarranted the personal attack did not makes sense as he didn't read the thread. A guy who chooses to carry himself in this manner, I can't put past scheming, chicanery and deceptiveness.

[dherm360]

Frankly, I wouldn't feel comfortable as the buyer or seller here even at $1200 (For the record, I didn't make an offer). From these basic scans its impossible to tell if they are real, fake, reprints, etc... I think, as the seller, the only thing to do, is to have the cards graded. Because if those cards came back as reprints or not authentic, 1200 would have seemed like a gift, and the buyer would have been the one out all the money. Its just too much of a crapshoot for both the buyer and the seller when these have not been graded. While I am not suggested that these cards are originals or reprints, I think you would certainly be safest getting them graded, because 1200 for a total crapshoot seems generous. Just my opinion.

I agree with this

could you scan the back of the cards

[WilsonValdez]

Yes, I can be a dick sometimes I know, but only when I think it's warranted in my delusional mind.

Sorry, just had to fix this. You are making yourself look like a major league j-off.

[marigold55]

Assuming everything there is authentic, what do you guys think the collection is worth (ballpark)?

[dmogull]

Do you remember that crying thread about him wanting a Bryce Harper auto but horrible topps or bryce or whatever let autos in the product coming off the sticker?

I can't find the thread anymore so either a mod deleted it or someone asked that it be removed.

Anyway, I read it, summed it up, and posted succinctly. It was taken rather badly by this fellow and his pal. You know how that goes, Tyler. :devil:

So his response is to make these accusations and innuendos.

It really is laughable, but harmless. If my behavior in this thread or that one lowers anyone's opinion of me, that is probably for the best. :D

Actually you said something along the lines of me being a $&*#& for knowingly buying a product with butchered Harper autos. However, if you read the first 4 pages of the thread you would have known that I did not know beforehand that Harper butchered his autos and I was mad that I spent my money on a product where he chose to sign like a DB....I was also mad that he was giving the finger to the hobby that I love and also felt bad for the other thousands of people that unknowingly bought the product only to find out Harper butchered EVERY auto. Someone else even responded to your post saying you should probably read the thread before answering in such a b*tchy manner.

I agree with you on one thing...your post was succinct..... succinctly wrong and offensive. I read your feedback (thanks Tyler) and can see you do group breaks which I guess which is why everyone apparently thinks you are the next coming of Christ. I get it and think it is laughable...maybe you pulled them a Bryce Harper refractor and now they love you for it.

Doesn't change the fact that you are a punk that needs to watch what you say. The world doesn't revolve around internet forums and group break like you think. Say the wrong thing to the wrong person in the real world and you might just get what you're looking for...

[Tyler]

Assuming everything there is authentic, what do you guys think the collection is worth (ballpark)?

Like $1200? :devil:

[Tyler]

Actually you said something along the lines of me being a $&*#& for knowingly buying a product with butchered Harper autos. However, if you read the first 4 pages of the thread you would have known that I did not know beforehand that Harper butchered his autos and I was mad that I spent my money on a product where he chose to sign like a DB....I was also mad that he was giving the finger to the hobby that I love and also felt bad for the other thousands of people that unknowingly bought the product only to find out Harper butchered EVERY auto. Someone else even responded to your post saying you should probably read the thread before answering in such a b*tchy manner.

I agree with you on one thing...your post was succinct..... succinctly wrong and offensive. I read your feedback (thanks Tyler) and can see you do group breaks which I guess which is why everyone apparently thinks you are the next coming of Christ. I get it and think it is laughable...maybe you pulled them a Bryce Harper refractor and now they love you for it.

Doesn't change the fact that you are a punk that needs to watch what you say. The world doesn't revolve around internet forums and group break like you think. Say the wrong thing to the wrong person in the real world and you might just get what you're looking for...

How short-sighted are you? Maybe the fact that he has handled over a hundred thousand dollars of other people's money with not one single negative feedback is impressive. It's why people trust him.

[BostonNut]

Say the wrong thing to the wrong person in the real world and you might just get what you're looking for...

http://i.qkme.me/35q5gd.jpg

[dmogull]

How short-sighted are you? Maybe the fact that he has handled over a hundred thousand dollars of other people's money with not one single negative feedback is impressive. It's why people trust him.

Yes, I understand, but, that doesn't give him the right to conduct himself towards others like a total a$$hole. Some other people may take it and pretend it didn't happen, but not me. This guy is a punk in my book and will continue to be one.

[dmogull]

Like $1200? :devil:

nice.....:devil:

[hearseguy]

Assuming everything there is authentic, what do you guys think the collection is worth (ballpark)?

Some of those cards like the DiMaggio, Robinson and Joe Jackson are in amazing condition. That Jackson could easily bring $25,000 at an auction house if it graded well. I know a PSA 3 sold last year for just over $15,000 at auction. I would guess a grade on that as maybe about a 5 due to the dicoloring unless the back is trashed. So to guess a value would be difficult because the grades are so important. If they all graded somewhat well I don't think that $40,000 would be out of the question. That is a wonderful collection.

Jeremy

[Adamchuk]

OP, just sent you a PM. I am in NYC as well and would be willing to help you out navigate the grading process and getting them to the proper place for sale if that is ultimately what you want to do.

No hidden agendas, its a great collection and should be cared for properly. The majority of the advice of the guys on here has been spot on. Just offering a helping hand if need be. Good luck with everything

[imnotded]

Yes, I understand, but, that doesn't give him the right to conduct himself towards others like a total a$$hole. Some other people may take it and pretend it didn't happen, but not me. This guy is a punk in my book and will continue to be one.

I guess you're the only one who can do that?

[dmogull]

I guess you're the only one who can do that?

There is always a reason why I lash out at others...I don't like doing it, but I have a sense of pride....yes, even on internet forums. If someone puts me down for no apparent (or even erroneous) reasons, I am going to say something back.

If I say or do something wrong, I am the first to admit it.

[mcgoo2]

First rule of Blowout cards forums: You do not speak ill of Houdini.
Second rule of Blowout card forums: YOU DO NOT SPEAK ILL OF HOUDINI.

To the OP, as a fellow redditor, welcome! As others have mentioned, assuming these are authentic, you do not want to sell them ungraded (In my opinion, PSA or SGC would be acceptable although most on here would say go with PSA for grading). They look to be in great shape and selling raw is just asking to get lowballed. In terms of selling, I don't think ebay/an auction house is a bad way to go. You're guaranteed to get market value. Just find a credible cosigner who deals specifically in vintage cards. While it's much worse on the interwebs, without being highly educated on the value of your cards, taking it to a dealer can result in just as much lowballing.

Obviously, Houini's examples are just examples of specific grades (many of which are unsold). I think the purpose of them are to show the value of what you have there. No need to accept these incredibly low offers members here are giving. As grades go higher, prics rise exponentially.

[KingTaco77]

I never really knew what a dick you were.

THE MORE YOU KNOW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU3m4N9iOQI

[wickedliquids]

You've got some very cool cards there. Between the Cracker Jacks, Big Heads, etc, very cool stuff.

Got a few questions - those Cracker Jacks - I'm assuming they are behind the glass in the frame? Anyway to verify if they were glued? I'm asking because those CJ's are VERY white...VERY clean in other words. Most that I've seen have some sort of staining, etc, while several are in great condition. The Mathewson looks like it has some adhesive on the backing (you can see it at the bottom). I would certainly get those CJ's authenticated - how long have they been in the frames? Again, those clean borders will make some collectors question them or take a 2nd look, so definitely get those graded. If they ARE glued on...I vote for you to leave them - I bet they look hecka cool in a frame!

The T202's look awesome too, especially the Cobb and Tinker and I see the Cicotte as well - you should get some good money for those as well, again assuming they haven't been glued and if so, hopefully not too much back damage on them if you try to peel them off.

Good stuff!

[auph_1]

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[jr24ai3]

Houdini has the right idea if you do not have the money to grade them all at once. Grade the 1953 Mays and use those funds to grade the rest. There are lots of reprints out there on the cracker jacks so I'd get those graded asap. The colors do look good on the jackson as far as the border and jersey color being the same.

Good luck with the cards and do not take any offers on here. If you get a PSA membership will be able to look up a value in the SMR price guide that comes with a subscription. If you do not want to sell on Ebay, I would recommend trying to sell to the Baseball Card Exchange. I had a few 1974 BVG 9s that I wanted to move and they offered me just less of the Ebay selling prices. I emailed DACW about the same 3 cards and they offered me 1/2 of what BBCE offered. Sent me a check within 3 days.

Hope this info helps a little.

[Takaziro]

Thanks for all the advices, I will not sell these before they are graded properly. Here are scans on the rest of the collection I didnt post yet, for your appreciation:
Photo Album - Imgur (http://imgur.com/a/7lUmJ#0)

[Takaziro]

You've got some very cool cards there. Between the Cracker Jacks, Big Heads, etc, very cool stuff.

Got a few questions - those Cracker Jacks - I'm assuming they are behind the glass in the frame? Anyway to verify if they were glued? I'm asking because those CJ's are VERY white...VERY clean in other words. Most that I've seen have some sort of staining, etc, while several are in great condition. The Mathewson looks like it has some adhesive on the backing (you can see it at the bottom). I would certainly get those CJ's authenticated - how long have they been in the frames? Again, those clean borders will make some collectors question them or take a 2nd look, so definitely get those graded. If they ARE glued on...I vote for you to leave them - I bet they look hecka cool in a frame!

The T202's look awesome too, especially the Cobb and Tinker and I see the Cicotte as well - you should get some good money for those as well, again assuming they haven't been glued and if so, hopefully not too much back damage on them if you try to peel them off.

Good stuff!
None of these card are glued , they are all loose and the ones behind the glass frame arent glued either but nested there.
Isnt the fact that they are very clean a good thing? it means its in good condition and well preserved.

[rhvalk]

You have some amazing cards, most of which are in very good shape. I'm sure it's already been said but you should without doubt get them graded. I like the lot of 1911 T205 in the second link. Really neat stuff and thanks for sharing! :)!

[Cactuspies]

great stuff there. listen to the masses, ignore the few who don't have a clue. I hope all works out well for you OP you may have hit a goldmine there, for personal & historical purposes. Please keep us updated on this.

[lemur01]

When it comes to unsuspecting and ill versed people holding somewhat valuable vintage cards, yes, I brace for the worst. Too many times people not gotten the true value for their cards because some seemingly "nice knowledgeable fella working in the best interest of the seller" ends up screwing him over....royally.

It can, will, and has happened. Doubt Houdini would pull such a stunt though. He seems honest to me thus far. But being cautious is best. Too many scum bags in this hobby.

At any rate, holy #@#@#@#@ was a nice collection of cards. Your grandfather had (has?) great taste in collectibles. Thank you for sharing these with us.

[houdini]

I am just trying lull you all into a false sense of security.

The Manny Banuelos super auto, Bundy super auto, and Yu Darvish first auto cards that were delivered next day air? All part of my master plan.

M5Z4G7nCmPs

Some day I will have you all properly trapped. Of course, a mere thousand itrader transactions couldn't possibly be enough.

It's not like dmogul isn't trolling me because I succinctly commented in his thread and the masses agreed with me overwhelmingly? No, that wouldn't be it at all. Although he did admit to that very thing in this thread. Where is that original thread by dmogul that he is still crying about? I mean, he couldn't possibly have been so that he begged it be removed? No. That would never happen. I mean really, only a

In all seriousness guys, if you can't handle it when someone with an opposing view posts in your thread - especially a crying thread - please for the love of all that is holy - STOP posting your threads. You are just going to get hurt. And that's just sad.

If you are just going to follow everyone around who has an opposing (read: right) view, you are going to become very, very busy. Do the rest of us want the type of blowout forum where you get to ruin thread after thread with your vindictive, poorly worded spite?

Get over yourself. Find the attention you seek in more productive avenues. That's all.

To the op, thanks again for this great thread and I whole-heartedly apologize for this necessary post.

[natbornkiller]

I am just trying lull you all into a false sense of security.

The Manny Banuelos super auto, Bundy super auto, and Yu Darvish first auto cards that were delivered next day air? All part of my master plan.

M5Z4G7nCmPs

.

wtf only the 10 second clip

on a side note those are some nice old cards :)

[dmogull]

I am just trying lull you all into a false sense of security.

The Manny Banuelos super auto, Bundy super auto, and Yu Darvish first auto cards that were delivered next day air? All part of my master plan.

M5Z4G7nCmPs

Some day I will have you all properly trapped. Of course, a mere thousand itrader transactions couldn't possibly be enough.

It's not like dmogul isn't trolling me because I succinctly commented in his thread and the masses agreed with me overwhelmingly? No, that wouldn't be it at all. Although he did admit to that very thing in this thread. Where is that original thread by dmogul that he is still crying about? I mean, he couldn't possibly have been so that he begged it be removed? No. That would never happen. I mean really, only a

In all seriousness guys, if you can't handle it when someone with an opposing view posts in your thread - especially a crying thread - please for the love of all that is holy - STOP posting your threads. You are just going to get hurt. And that's just sad.

If you are just going to follow everyone around who has an opposing (read: right) view, you are going to become very, very busy. Do the rest of us want the type of blowout forum where you get to ruin thread after thread with your vindictive, poorly worded spite?

Get over yourself. Find the attention you seek in more productive avenues. That's all.

To the op, thanks again for this great thread and I whole-heartedly apologize for this necessary post.

Dude why are you dragging this on?? Are you that offended and insecure? Don't worry, your bandwagon is intact and people will still join your group breaks....lol, ok?

I wish my thread wasn't deleted as I wanted to quote your post so badly, but unfortunately it was deleted.

Mods - Can you please advise why it was deleted (wouldn't it be funny and ironic if it was Houdini who asked it to be deleted!).

[dmogull]

It can, will, and has happened. Doubt Houdini would pull such a stunt though. He seems honest to me thus far. But being cautious is best. Too many scum bags in this hobby.

At any rate, holy #@#@#@#@ was a nice collection of cards. Your grandfather had (has?) great taste in collectibles. Thank you for sharing these with us.

100% agree brother

[DaBaddestHic]

I wish my thread wasn't deleted as I wanted to quote your post so badly, but unfortunately it was deleted.

Mods - Can you please advise why it was deleted (wouldn't it be funny and ironic if it was Houdini who asked it to be deleted!).

I'm sure it got deleted because it was (or was turning into) a flamewar. It didn't seem that bad when I last posted in it, but it got deleted sometime after that and I never saw why. I've seen worse threads at least get locked, so what I missed must have been pretty bad.

OP - this is an amazing collection! I was impressed after the first post, but after showing the rest of them I'm just floored. Although, it does look like all of those old sepia toned ones are glued down, I really hope they aren't because that's a ton of cards for how old they are. Seeing the Gypsy Queen ones in there made me do a doubletake - don't think I'd actually seen them in their original state, just Topps' homage set. Good luck on getting these graded and I hope they all go to homes of people that appreciate them!

[WilsonValdez]

Dude why are you dragging this on?? Are you that offended and insecure? Don't worry, your bandwagon is intact and people will still join your group breaks....lol, ok?

I wish my thread wasn't deleted as I wanted to quote your post so badly, but unfortunately it was deleted.

Mods - Can you please advise why it was deleted (wouldn't it be funny and ironic if it was Houdini who asked it to be deleted!).

My God, do you have no sense of "the pot calling the kettle black."? Your butthurt/dragging this on, based on some perceived slight Houdini made against you in some other past thread, was admittedly the whole reason you came in here and started sh*t. Everything you said to describe him is pretty much how an outsider not involved with anything here is seeing YOU.

Houdini has a "bandwagon" because he has established himself as one of the most trusted members/breakers on the site...it's something that's earned.

Just quit while you're way behind...you are just making yourself look stupider and stupider.


Poor guy with those old cards. Well actually not, because he just found a mint, but still...

[dmogull]

My God, do you have no sense of "the pot calling the kettle black."? Your butthurt/dragging this on, based on some perceived slight Houdini made against you in some other past thread, was admittedly the whole reason you came in here and started sh*t. Everything you said to describe him is pretty much how an outsider not involved with anything here is seeing YOU.

Houdini has a "bandwagon" because he has established himself as one of the most trusted members/breakers on the site...it's something that's earned.

Just quit while you're way behind...you are just making yourself look stupider and stupider.


Poor guy with those old cards. Well actually not, because he just found a mint, but still...

who are u and why are u answering for Houdini? I received some pretty funny PM's from members who PREDICTED who would answer for the Houdini....they predicted quite accurately I must say lol. Just leave it alone man.

Oh and I find the above underlined EXTREMELY ironic...stupider is not a word....it is "more stupid" smart guy.

[WilsonValdez]

who are u and why are u answering for Houdini? I received some pretty funny PM's from members who PREDICTED who would answer for the Houdini....they predicted quite accurately I must say lol. Just leave it alone man.

Oh and I find the above underlined EXTREMELY ironic...stupider is not a word....it is "more stupid" smart guy.

What are you even talking about...nobody is answering for Houdini. I am just posting MY opinion from having read this thread. Whoopty-do; someone PREDICTED I would post...what does that prove? That doesn't change the facts of what I'm commenting on.

And yeah, please nitpick at my grammar and avoid everything else. And while you're at it, be wrong in the nitpicking too (stupider IS a word- look it up- and works better in this case than 'more stupid and more stupid'). So yeah, as I said, you look stupider and stupider. :)!

[Friarg]

can someone please post a popcorn eating gif for me? I'm on my phone you see and would love to contribute, but can't...mores the pity.

[soxfanintx]

can someone please post a popcorn eating gif for me? I'm on my phone you see and would love to contribute, but can't...mores the pity.

Lol. Ask and you shall receive...

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff426/soxfanintx/Popcorn-02-Stephen-Colbert.gif

[Friarg]

thanks, soxfan - you're the best!

[dmogull]

What are you even talking about...nobody is answering for Houdini. I am just posting MY opinion from having read this thread. Whoopty-do; someone PREDICTED I would post...what does that prove? That doesn't change the facts of what I'm commenting on.

And yeah, please nitpick at my grammar and avoid everything else. And while you're at it, be wrong in the nitpicking too (stupider IS a word- look it up- and works better in this case than 'more stupid and more stupid'). So yeah, as I said, you look stupider and stupider. :)!

The reason I nitpicked your grammar is because of how ironic your assertion was (and how funny I thought it was). Some people may accept stupider as a word because of how often it is used incorrectly (just how Ebonics are accepted as words). Case in point, your above post.

[uberfatty]

who are u and why are u answering for Houdini? I received some pretty funny PM's from members who PREDICTED who would answer for the Houdini....they predicted quite accurately I must say lol. Just leave it alone man.

Oh and I find the above underlined EXTREMELY ironic...stupider is not a word....it is "more stupid" smart guy.

Someone predicted that a member known for giving his opinions and being very fair would come to the defense of the rational party in a dispute? In other news, sky is blue.

As one of those outsiders who didn't see the original thread, I can't imagine what a memebr would say in one post of one thread that would warrant what has been said in this thread. Sure the post may have been direct, even a little rude, but that's a long ways from calling someone a scam artist and trying to ruin their reputation (which is sterling i might add).

[uberfatty]

Lol. Ask and you shall receive...

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff426/soxfanintx/Popcorn-02-Stephen-Colbert.gif

do the one with the guy in the backwards hat spilling it quickly, that's the best.

[dmogull]

Someone predicted that a member known for giving his opinions and being very fair would come to the defense of the rational party in a dispute? In other news, sky is blue.

As one of those outsiders who didn't see the original thread, I can't imagine what a memebr would say in one post of one thread that would warrant what has been said in this thread. Sure the post may have been direct, even a little rude, but that's a long ways from calling someone a scam artist and trying to ruin their reputation (which is sterling i might add).

No, actually a FEW members. I don't think they meant it as a compliment.

[monkeymcgee]

The reason I nitpicked your grammar is because of how ironic your assertion was (and how funny I thought it was). Some people may accept stupider as a word because of how often it is used incorrectly (just how Ebonics are accepted as words). Case in point, your above post.

OED lists citations with "stupider," so I think you're wrong. Those examples date back to 1920.

As for the other stuff, I have no opinion other than you have an amazing collection of cards from those videos the other day :D

[TheHeel]

We have not heard from the OP in a while. Have you contacted PSA?

[dmogull]

OED lists citations with "stupider," so I think you're wrong. Those examples date back to 1920.

As for the other stuff, I have no opinion other than you have an amazing collection of cards from those videos the other day :D

like I said, it is an accepted word, spawned from the amount it was used incorrectly. Phat is also a word included in the online dictionary....


phat1    [fat] Show IPA
noun
Typesetting . fat ( def. 23 ) .
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Origin:
by respelling

phat2  
adjective
Slang . great; wonderful; terrific.
Origin:
1960–65, Americanism ; respelling of fat

[DaBaddestHic]

As much as this entertains me, I hope that this thread doesn't get deleted for something that isn't even related to the OP. I really do wanna see what happens with his story as things progress, and he has nothing to do with the arguments that are taking place here...

[BostonNut]

I see you have 50 PERFECT transactions here and are an outstanding Top Rated seller on eBay.

Just to be cautious...plus the fact you get butt-hurt easily...I will NEVER, EVER deal with you. For all I know you could just decide to rip me off. I mean just because you have PERFECT feedback everywhere means nothing....

No, actually a FEW members. I don't think they meant it as a compliment.

[WilsonValdez]

The reason I nitpicked your grammar is because of how ironic your assertion was (and how funny I thought it was). Some people may accept stupider as a word because of how often it is used incorrectly (just how Ebonics are accepted as words). Case in point, your above post.

Honestly, who cares? You're pretty much arguing semantics. If that's what you want to focus on, out of all this, then good for you.

I'm out until later tonight, so there will be nothing else posted on my end...I'm done. But please feel free to keep arguing irrelevant BS.

[dmogull]

Honestly, who cares? You're pretty much arguing semantics. If that's what you want to focus on, out of all this, then good for you.

I'm out until later tonight, so there will be nothing else posted on my end...I'm done. But please feel free to keep arguing irrelevant BS.

Thank you. Let's agree to disagree and call it a night as I have to run as well.

I see you have 50 PERFECT transactions here and are an outstanding Top Rated seller on eBay.

Just to be cautious...plus the fact you get butt-hurt easily...I will NEVER, EVER deal with you. For all I know you could just decide to rip me off. I mean just because you have PERFECT feedback everywhere means nothing....

Why even bring my status as a seller on here and ebay into this discussion? I treat all my buyers with the greatest amount of respect and offer my best service. If you don't want to deal with me, I can't help that. I put my ebay name on here as I am 100% transparent. I would hope you or anyone else would not confuse/mix business with pleasure.

[BostonNut]

so does houdini!!!!!!!

why even bring my status as a seller on here and ebay into this discussion? i treat all my buyers with the greatest amount of respect and offer my best service. if you don't want to deal with me, i can't help that. I put my ebay name on here as i am 100% transparent. I would hope you or anyone else would not confuse/mix business with pleasure.

[Takaziro]

I added some more scans to the original post. here is the link for the rest of them: Photo Album - Imgur (http://imgur.com/a/7lUmJ#0) any evaluations? thank you

[refuse24]

Postimage.org / gallery - DP820670, DP802061, DP802062, DP802063, DP802064, DP817001, DP817018 (http://postimage.org/gallery/74sspsm/)
(If you scroll down the page more cards should load up) - some are pictured in groups.
This is my grandfathers old collection. some beautifully looking pieces here. could you guys identify these cards and tell me what their value might be?

Thanks.

Edit: here are more scans of the rest of the collection for your enjoyment: Photo Album - Imgur (http://imgur.com/a/7lUmJ#0)If I where you I take them out of that frame and get those slab.

If those come back real your looking at some series money.

Do not sell a single 1 of those cards to anybody..I don't care what they offer.If there offering you insane amount of money they know.

I would take a few of them get them slabbed and if they come back real then maybe you can offset some of the cost bye selling a few...Slabbed cards.

If you can hold all those cards for a few years and have all of them slabbed.I would suggest taking them to 1 of the Major Sporting card shows and either get a table or walk around.

Or get them all slabbed and see when the next Big Online Auction.They might take a 3rd but your still walking away with 66% profit.

Start talking to the big collectors on the form.Maybe they can suggest the best options for you and your collection.

[refuse24]

My wife's Grandmother has a bunch of Tobacco Cards.I know she has in the past sold some.I don't ask and I don't care to know.

They are her cards from her father that smoked a pack a day.I just wish she could of showed me.But there sitting in a bank.

I did see she had a 1890's tobacco book that had a bunch of Civil War pictures.

[B1daddie]

Nice cards. You have a lot of advice in the earlier posts here. Evaluate it carefully and most of all take your time.

[Takaziro]

I found this collection in my fathers attic. Any ideas what kind of values I have here:
Frontside:http://s15.postimage.org/bf9xviart/image.jpg
Backside: http://s13.postimage.org/rw2aizr7p/image.jpg

Where do I get started to evaluate these?
Any information will be highly appreciated - I am not much of a cards person.

[The Chad]

those were giveaways at this years national.'

Edit - or they are pictures of the actual cards.

[Takaziro]

These are pictures of the actual cards. Links seem to be working fine for me.

[hundley]

Not much. Market's been flooded with these lately. Looking at maybe $8-10 bucks on the bay for the lot, and that's if you offer free shipping.

I suggest setting them on fire and trying to score a high from the fumes.

[Takaziro]

Not much. Market's been flooded with these lately. Looking at maybe $8-10 bucks on the bay for the lot, and that's if you offer free shipping.

I suggest setting them on fire and trying to score a high from the fumes.

Are you serious? did you notice how old these are and how pristine of a condition?

[hundley]

Are you serious? did you notice how old these are and how pristine of a condition?
Wait, I thought you weren't much of a card person? You asked for advice, I gave it to you. Look at how many more posts I have than you on this forum. That means I'm like 10x smarter than you in the card department.

[My-Coolectibles]

They are reprints and they just came out this year. So finding these in your "grandpa's" attic - I smell bullsh!t

[Prospect Rush]

I'll be right back. Need to go pop some corn...

[cjsayde]

Sick bro (http://www.ha.com/c/press-release.zx?releaseId=2230)

:)!

Musta been pretty bored this morning eh?

[RedSoxFan28]

Wait, I thought you weren't much of a card person? You asked for advice, I gave it to you. Look at how many more posts I have than you on this forum. That means I'm like 10x smarter than you in the card department.

hahaha, the more you posts doesn't make you "smarter". ;)

[hundley]

hahaha, the more you posts doesn't make you "smarter". ;)
:eek: :eek: :eek:
all right!! you have more posts than me so by my calculations you are 10x smarter than me in this category. i will respectfully yield to your judgement.

ps i hope you find tyler seguin. i did not know he was lost. i hope the little guy gets home safely.

[My-Coolectibles]

Wait, the OP edited his original post cause he knew he was busted for trying to pass off his "grandpa's" find in the attic as the real thing.

Here's a link to another post asking for advice on his grandpa's old cards.


http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/baseball/277498-found-these-old-cards.html

[RedSoxFan28]

:eek: :eek: :eek:
all right!! you have more posts than me so by my calculations you are 10x smarter than me in this category. i will respectfully yield to your judgement.

ps i hope you find tyler seguin. i did not know he was lost. i hope the little guy gets home safely.

I never said I was smarter then anyone on here. I just said how many posts you have doesn't make you smarter. ;)

About Seguin, yeah he as been lost for about 8 weeks now. We hope we can find him soon :rolleyes:

[Prospect Rush]

Ban hammer!!!

[JohnnysBench]

How did we discover the cards were reprints or fakes???

[CALVINXLIONSX81]

How did we discover the cards were reprints or fakes???

they were from this years national

[GatorBoyInTN]

Your grandpa is a cool guy. Word.

[JohnnysBench]

they were from this years national

Reprint giveaways that he made look old?

[cjsayde]

Reprint giveaways that he made look old?

No he just posted pictures of the large group of vintage cards that someone actually did find in their attic and sold at auction. They coined the set the "black swamp find" and the PSA slabs he posted were from this set.

[JohnnysBench]

I know the black swamp find well, I even live in the Baltimore area. However, the links sent above were cards mostly from cracker jack and 1948 until 1959 Topps and Bowman?

[cjsayde]

I know the black swamp find well, I even live in the Baltimore area. However, the links sent above were cards mostly from cracker jack and 1948 until 1959 Topps and Bowman?

Yeah he removed the link and pictures to the black swamp cards from post 1 and someone else found ANOTHER thread where he claimed to have stumbled upon vintage gold.