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Georgia Bulldog
04-13-2012, 10:24 PM
Here's the thread we had started awhile back for this Trade Only Forum. I'll post a shortcut link here http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/suggestions-box/218581-suggestion-ft-only-section.html so maybe we can get more members to agree. I think also they should make a Highend Card Forum also. Thanks Much

ManInTheMirror
04-13-2012, 11:52 PM
I agree completely that we need a trade only forum. We need a trade section and a buy/sell section. This would help out the site greatly and help things run alot smoother.

I don't really feel a highend section would be needed that much, as there just aren't that many people dealing high-end on here. Most just take that stuff to eBay. But maybe we could have/designate a certain icon to be used in the buy/sell section that would just be for highend cards.

ivbaseball06
04-14-2012, 12:01 PM
As I said in the other thread a while back, Blowout could learn a lot by taking a page out of SCF's book. Separate forums for trading, buying/selling, and high end. Then add a trade manager to keep track of details and addresses. It would reduce confusion, disputes, disorganization, lost addresses, lost PMs, etc. The thing I like most on SCF is that by having separate forums your threads dont get buried as quick. It's impossible to sell on here with all of the quick sales and 24 hour bumping limit. SCF has 3 different forums for every sport and still let you bump after 8 hours (as long as you're no longer on the front page).

rletlow
04-14-2012, 12:13 PM
I COMPLETELY agree.

mnvikingstwins
04-14-2012, 12:21 PM
Don't separate high-end, then it's just going to be arguing over what high-end is.

cadillac540
04-14-2012, 12:48 PM
Don't separate high-end, then it's just going to be arguing over what high-end is.

Agreed.......

The Madbacker
04-14-2012, 12:50 PM
What we should do is eliminate any members who are 15 or younger, from trading and/or buying.

tolrobb
04-14-2012, 12:51 PM
What we should do is eliminate any members who are 15 or younger, from trading and/or buying.

Agreed......

ivbaseball06
04-14-2012, 01:11 PM
Don't separate high-end, then it's just going to be arguing over what high-end is.

On SCF they just say $100 or over. It's a plus/minus and nobody is anal about it. It doesn't matter as long as there aren't people putting crap cards on there.

cadillac540
04-14-2012, 01:14 PM
Please, let's not try to make this site like SCF.

ivbaseball06
04-14-2012, 01:22 PM
Please, let's not try to make this site like SCF.

What's wrong with taking good features that work well on another site? Everybody on here complains about the people on SCF, which is warranted in some cases. But nobody ever bashes their website setup. It's much better. And let's face it, there are morons on BO too, and many people here are on both sites. Some people get off on making a faux rivalry and never actually think about the diarrhea that comes out of their mouth.

cadillac540
04-14-2012, 01:25 PM
What's wrong with taking good features that work well on another site? Everybody on here complains about the people on SCF, which is warranted in some cases. But nobody ever bashes their website setup. It's much better. And let's face it, there are morons on BO too, and many people here are on both sites. Some people get off on making a faux rivalry and never actually think about the diarrhea that comes out of their mouth.

I hope they're paying you the way you're campaigning right now

SpastikMooss
04-14-2012, 01:54 PM
I definitely see how trades and buy/sell being separated could help. I like this idea.

High end being split though - no. Lots of people kind of eyeball values, and everyone negotiates - where do you put a card with a book of 120 where someone is looking for $60 SV? Or where do you put a card where someone is looking for $100 OBO? Is that high end or the high end of the low end? Too complicated.

As for SCF's setup being "much better," I disagree. Every forum has its own style, and I really like Blowout's for what it is. Super easy to navigate compared to other forums, and because of it I dabble in forums here that I never would've otherwise. On SCF I always just go right to football cards because the other forums are too divided to capture my interest, and I probably miss a lot of interesting members/threads as a result. Blowout has more of a community feel to me - on most other forums I feel like I'm just there to acquire cards.

Josh611
04-14-2012, 04:24 PM
The trade manager is just stupid and a hastle IMO. I do agree on making trade only forum but not the highend one.

hasayrs
04-14-2012, 06:10 PM
What's wrong with taking good features that work well on another site? Everybody on here complains about the people on SCF, which is warranted in some cases. But nobody ever bashes their website setup. It's much better. And let's face it, there are morons on BO too, and many people here are on both sites. Some people get off on making a faux rivalry and never actually think about the diarrhea that comes out of their mouth.

I prefer BO's setup a thousand times better than SCF's. MUCH simpler.

FreeMan12406
04-14-2012, 10:11 PM
SCF's setup was/is infinitely better.

pee632
04-14-2012, 10:29 PM
SCF's setup was/is infinitely better.


+1 especially the trade manager, it gives people who are spending their money some security. Ya I know what the response is paypals, right. I think in todays market with all the scammers a trade manger would be better for the seller and the buyer. I do agree with the separation of forums also because as it was stated that your thread gets buried to quick.

Georgia Bulldog
04-14-2012, 11:05 PM
Thanks everyone for your comments and for agreeing on the trade only forum. I'm hoping we get a reply from a mod, saying they'll start this project.

SpastikMooss
04-15-2012, 12:25 AM
SCF's setup was/is infinitely better.

+1 especially the trade manager, it gives people who are spending their money some security. Ya I know what the response is paypals, right. I think in todays market with all the scammers a trade manger would be better for the seller and the buyer. I do agree with the separation of forums also because as it was stated that your thread gets buried to quick.

Trade manager - I agree it's nice to have one. I like that BO is so easy to make trades or sales since you don't have to click on a bunch of things - but it is way less safe and people get ripped off all the time. Would definitely happen less with a trade manager.

But I still wouldn't say SCF is better. It's different. Some people are gonna prefer it but I like the ease of usability over here and the more laid back style. SCF is a little too strict and intense for me with all the categories and subcategories and whatnot. There are a lot of forums like SCF (The Bench, FCB, etc.)...there aren't a lot like Blowout and I don't think we should change it too much.

Sidthekidc87
04-15-2012, 01:27 AM
SCF is for "noobs"

Blowout is when you graduate from being a rookie collector....or get banned from SCF

same difference :devil:

hasayrs
04-15-2012, 02:36 AM
SCF's setup was/is infinitely better.

Oh lord how I wish you would go there. And stay there.

tolrobb
04-15-2012, 07:45 AM
Trade manager - I agree it's nice to have one. I like that BO is so easy to make trades or sales since you don't have to click on a bunch of things - but it is way less safe and people get ripped off all the time. Would definitely happen less with a trade manager.

But I still wouldn't say SCF is better. It's different. Some people are gonna prefer it but I like the ease of usability over here and the more laid back style. SCF is a little too strict and intense for me with all the categories and subcategories and whatnot. There are a lot of forums like SCF (The Bench, FCB, etc.)...there aren't a lot like Blowout and I don't think we should change it too much.

lol, lets not turn this into another SCF vs. Blowout thread. Both are great for different reasons, there's no rule saying there can only be one.

Back on topic, the trade manager is IMO superior. The only reason I've seen for the itrader preference is typically "i dont like to click buttons, derp derp"...... i'm guessing from people who either never really gave the trade manager a chance, or just dont like it simply because it's what is used on SCF. truthfully, it takes about 20-30 seconds to "post" a trade--copy and paste is your friend. ;)

the benefits of then having the trade posted for future reference is well worth the extra time spent.

SpastikMooss
04-15-2012, 10:08 AM
lol, lets not turn this into another SCF vs. Blowout thread. Both are great for different reasons, there's no rule saying there can only be one.

Back on topic, the trade manager is IMO superior. The only reason I've seen for the itrader preference is typically "i dont like to click buttons, derp derp"...... i'm guessing from people who either never really gave the trade manager a chance, or just dont like it simply because it's what is used on SCF. truthfully, it takes about 20-30 seconds to "post" a trade--copy and paste is your friend. ;)

the benefits of then having the trade posted for future reference is well worth the extra time spent.

Haha I agree with you. I do think the trade manager would help a lot here as we'd hopefully see less "SOMEONE RIPPED ME OFF" threads going around with more tracking of posts.

Lol sorry if I sounded too defensive of Blowout otherwise...it just seems like people want a whole lot of changes and I like Blowout being the different forum. If I wanted SCF or The Bench or Freedom Cardboard and their specific limits I'd be over there, and I advise others who want a forum like that to check those out because they are great at what they do. Blowout is great for other things and that's why I stay here (and Sideline Sports Cards lately - I just love hearing the voice of the collector!).

Gibberish
04-15-2012, 08:55 PM
Haha I agree with you. I do think the trade manager would help a lot here as we'd hopefully see less "SOMEONE RIPPED ME OFF" threads going around with more tracking of posts.

Lol sorry if I sounded too defensive of Blowout otherwise...it just seems like people want a whole lot of changes and I like Blowout being the different forum. If I wanted SCF or The Bench or Freedom Cardboard and their specific limits I'd be over there, and I advise others who want a forum like that to check those out because they are great at what they do. Blowout is great for other things and that's why I stay here (and Sideline Sports Cards lately - I just love hearing the voice of the collector!).

The analogies here lack articulation and create confusion

For the collector who chases his players,teams,across all sports, SCF seems more beneficial to that type of focused collector

For High end prospecting in bulk and the ability to be an utter ass without regard for anyone FCB :P

BO is just better overall for it's pool of members,card availability and mostly hassle free dealings. People here,mostly,sell for XX below ebay on current hot cards. On the other 2 forums you will see SOME of that,but not a lot.

I enjoy BO period. When I hit the other 2 sites I have little fun and feel motivated to come re-post over here anything I would put at the other 2.

It's like 3 different restaurants that you visit often
All 3 have some things you like but 1 usually has more,over all and tends to be the focal point over the other 2.

I like the majority of the members. hell,people I have had tiffs with are free to buy or sell where I am concerned. On FCB if someone rubs me raw I would as soon poke my eye than deal with them. On SCF usually it's a lowball issue or a staff issue. Yes, I have had issues with staff in the past due to what I view as a paint brush approach to an issue. Why bother with details when the broad strokes are so much easier...and that is something I do not see on BO and another MAIN reason i do the majority of all of my posting here.

SpastikMooss
04-15-2012, 09:22 PM
BO is just better overall for it's pool of members,card availability and mostly hassle free dealings. People here,mostly,sell for XX below ebay on current hot cards. On the other 2 forums you will see SOME of that,but not a lot.

I enjoy BO period. When I hit the other 2 sites I have little fun and feel motivated to come re-post over here anything I would put at the other 2.

It's like 3 different restaurants that you visit often
All 3 have some things you like but 1 usually has more,over all and tends to be the focal point over the other 2.


+1 Better said than I.

VikingsAllDay
04-15-2012, 09:38 PM
Yes Def!!!!!!

a-train10
04-15-2012, 10:03 PM
I prefer BO's setup a thousand times better than SCF's. MUCH simpler.

It looks like I'm not the only one who thinks that. I trade/buy/sell all the time, and I don't want to have to look throuh 6 areas (Baseball and Football) to see what's going on and new.

Georgia Bulldog
04-16-2012, 11:42 AM
It looks like I'm not the only one who thinks that. I trade/buy/sell all the time, and I don't want to have to look throuh 6 areas (Baseball and Football) to see what's going on and new.

I do also but we definately need the Trade Only forum.

FreeMan12406
04-16-2012, 01:11 PM
Trade only!
Trade only!
Trade only!
Trade only!
Trade only!
Trade only!
Trade only!
Trade only!
Trade only!

Brad
04-16-2012, 01:18 PM
Just use descriptive thread titles and you won't need yet another set of sub-forums. This place has way too many sub-forums the way it is. Believe it or not, the old board has one forum. And it wasn't confusing.

I think most people use the New Posts feature anyway, so for those it wouldn't make any difference.

Or BO could just get rid of the BST boards totally. They don't make the site money and require a lot of modding...

ManInTheMirror
04-16-2012, 01:31 PM
Or BO could just get rid of the BST boards totally. They don't make the site money and require a lot of modding...
You are incorrect, Brad. Cards the people buy from blowout get delt on these boards daily. I for one do not sell on ebay, so without this place to deal away cards or even give them away I would be less inclined to buy more new cards. Apparently the b/s/t section(s) does more for this hobby than you think.

ivbaseball06
04-16-2012, 01:40 PM
Just use descriptive thread titles and you won't need yet another set of sub-forums. This place has way too many sub-forums the way it is. Believe it or not, the old board has one forum. And it wasn't confusing.

I think most people use the New Posts feature anyway, so for those it wouldn't make any difference.

Or BO could just get rid of the BST boards totally. They don't make the site money and require a lot of modding...

The issue isn't confusion as much as overcrowding. It's hard to keep your stuff from getting buried, especially with the stringent bumping rules.

FreeMan12406
04-16-2012, 01:45 PM
There should be a buy/sell forum, and a trade forum for each section. It's not confusing, it's simple, easy, and your threads wouldn't get buried in 2 minutes.

Burt-Reynolds
04-16-2012, 03:54 PM
It would be nice to get some organization in there. Don't know if copying SCF is the way to go necessarily. I doubt BLowout has any interest in biting competitors sites.

It is annoying how quickly your post gets buried though. The most annoying problem is that a new post is almost at the bottom of the page before the page even gets more than one view. I like the idea of being able to bump after only 8 hours though.

bigbensbff
04-16-2012, 04:09 PM
It really can't be that difficult to add a Trade forum. Just one more option on the main page for each sport. This would benefit the buyers, sellers, and traders. I don't see a possible drawback of this.

And I would vote heavily against a trade manager

iBLeeDBaTTLeReD
04-16-2012, 04:31 PM
+1 for seperate buy/sell and trading forums. Threads usually get buried in a matter of minutes and having the 24hr bump rule just makes matters worse. Wait a full day to get your post bumped to the top for a full 5-10 minutes...SMH. Gets really bad during the high traffic hours.

Dont care for the trade manager although i do like it just for the simple fact that if its used properly by both parties it eliminates a bunch of unnecesarry PMing and confusion with shipping. Not to mention keeping track of trades or sales for forgetful ppl like myself,lol. Sometimes i get stuff in that i dont even remember buying....i know thats bad,lol.

Both sides have there pros/cons but i must say BO has a more homey feeling compared to SCF. Have made plenty of friends here since i joined and SCF just feels like if your not part of the clique already youre just another number on the boards. Although i have gotten alot more trading done at SCF where as on BO i find myself mainly just buying.

My main complaint which pushes me away from SCF is that hardly anyone posts scans or claims not to have a scanner. I wanna see what im buying there not have to look for the card by description on the net! Also never understood why when you post image link in a thread instead of showing the scan pic it just leaves the link to click on to view scan....ugggh! :mad:

Georgia Bulldog
04-16-2012, 09:37 PM
Thanks everyone and hopefully we'll get a trade only forum soon.

iBLeeDBaTTLeReD
04-24-2012, 07:22 PM
Perfect example of why separate trade/sell forums needed. Just bumped up my thread 30!minutes ago and it's already about halfway down the 2nd page....SMH

Georgia Bulldog
04-24-2012, 08:55 PM
Perfect example of why separate trade/sell forums needed. Just bumped up my thread 30!minutes ago and it's already about halfway down the 2nd page....SMH

Yeah i hear ya brotha, mine was on page 3 within a half hour. Com'mon blowout let's get this trade forum only going.

Manmadeofsteel
04-24-2012, 08:56 PM
AGREED!!!! ESPECIALLY FOR LESS BUDGETED and younger collectors like ME!:)