Upper Deck is sneaking out a Baseball product this week, anyone else hear this??

[champs]

Just got off phone with my distributor, it will have 3 sticker autos per box, will retail around 80, 1 in 6 boxes will be an "A" level auto, not suppose to be any pics of the player on the card....oh boy, who's in for a sticker dump, lol??? They just found out today, have to order it within the hour and it is shipping their way tomorrow, lol this should be funny

[pkscards]

I would like to hear more details on this. Sounds like a joke.

[johnorpheus]

Just got off phone with my distributor, it will have 3 sticker autos per box, will retail around 80, 1 in 6 boxes will be an "A" level auto, not suppose to be any pics of the player on the card....oh boy, who's in for a sticker dump, lol??? They just found out today, have to order it within the hour and it is shipping their way tomorrow, lol this should be funny

That sounds like it would be the crappiest product ever.

[NeonStatus]

First thing that comes to mind is the Tri-Star product with just a sticker auto in the middle.

[7290morint]

So it's going to look something like this one?

2011 Upper Deck World of Sports Athletes of the World Autographs - Eric Hosmer | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Upper-Deck-World-of-Sports-Athletes-of-the-World-Autographs-Eric-Hosmer-/230776862798?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb5f784e)

[dhcollecting]

so it will be like those world of sports autographs with just stickers and no pictures of anything. Oh UD how low will you go!

10 UD RIPKEN JETER SMITH YOUNT World of Sports Sports Nation Autograph Quad /25 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-UD-RIPKEN-JETER-SMITH-YOUNT-World-of-Sports-Sports-Nation-Autograph-Quad-25-/140731847626?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item20c44593ca)

[Brad]

Crazy. They should just sell the stickers to another company with a license, but I doubt any of those companies trust UD enough to know for sure that the autos would be real...

[NonFlammable]

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/008/910/ultra-gay.png

[dhcollecting]

Can you spot the drop in quality from one year to the next?? :D

2009
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k281/dhcollecting/griffeydual2.jpg



2010
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k281/dhcollecting/griffeydual.jpg

[VWBUS1978]

Can you spot the drop in quality from one year to the next?? :D

2009
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k281/dhcollecting/griffeydual2.jpg



2010
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k281/dhcollecting/griffeydual.jpg

yeah, the drop in quality must have been because they got sued for nearly everything they put out in 2009.

[ajscards101]

This is crazy.

[CalJr3000]

Again, big thanks to MLB/MLBPA for the Topps crapopoly

[Ajax1723]

Oh I can't to wait to see how epically bad/illegal this product has the potential to be.

[coyne81486]

yeah, the drop in quality must have been because they got sued for nearly everything they put out in 2009.

ya its crazy, topps is the only product i go with

[7290morint]

Again, big thanks to MLB/MLBPA for the Topps crapopoly

Yeah, companies should be allowed to produce crap like this. No amount of licensing is going to fix this...

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/baseball/292127-horrible-panini-prime-gehrig-cut.html

It's worse then the hack jobs UD put last year for their "Legendary Cuts" product.

[wreckingshop]

I've just gotten back into the hobby after a decade away but Upper Deck has really crapped the bed, haven't they?

[pkscards]

I still want proof that this product is actually coming out.

It's soooo bad I find it hard to believe.

[Zerokruel]

2012 Sp Signature Edition.

3 Autographs per box. One of those cards will be a multi-signed autograph or Patch autograph.

[pkscards]

2012 Sp Signature Edition.

3 Autographs per box. One of those cards will be a multi-signed autograph or Patch autograph.

Wow. This is really interesting.

[Ajax1723]

Wow. This is really interesting.

More interested to see who they actually have stickers of still. No way they still have enough high-end players, amazing prospects left.

[sportcardtheory]

You would think they would at least use drawings/paintings of the players.

[pkscards]

More interested to see who they actually have stickers of still. No way they still have enough high-end players, amazing prospects left.

Yea, I didn't mean interesting in a good way ;). Really interested to see the strength (or most likely lack of) of the checklist, and how awful the cards looks w/o pictures.

[Ajax1723]

Yea, I didn't mean interesting in a good way ;). Really interested to see the strength (or most likely lack of) of the checklist, and how awful the cards looks w/o pictures.

I can't imagine they can be worse than World of Sports in 2010, but I guess they can find a way.

I can see Group A autos being of people alike to the caliber of Uggla, Brandon Phillips, Andre Ethier, etc. Can't see them having hundreds of Griffey autos laying around still.

Even if they did, I'm willing to bet a Griffey auto pulled as a sticker with no serial numbering and no pictures wouldn't even cover the 80 dollar cost of a box.

[jubei777]

they'll probably throw in the usualy tiger/jordan/harper to draw in people but this looks like it will probably be a pretty brutal break. i'll laugh my #@#@#@ off if there's redemptions though.

[RichSlyFox14]

wow if the cards don't have pics of players on them at all, that sucks. i don't understand why UD doesn't make baseball cards with the players in their college unis. they have the NCAA license but never make NCAA baseball cards. i think that would be cool if they are legally allowed to do a product like that.

[dbaks]

wow if the cards don't have pics of players on them at all, that sucks. i don't understand why UD doesn't make baseball cards with the players in their college unis. they have the NCAA license but never make NCAA baseball cards. i think that would be cool if they are legally allowed to do a product like that.

Probably becasue 80% of these guys didn't go to college ;)

[speedmasterp]

Over $200 per box from my sources:

CONTENT HIGHLIGHTS: (All content listed is an average based on the entire production run)

* THE BEST LINEUP OF LIVING BASEBALL SIGNERS EVER OFFERED IN ONE PRODUCT!
* Get THREE (3) AUTOGRAPH CARDS IN EVERY PACK!
- Includes one (1) Multi-Signed or Manufactured Patch Autograph Card
* Get TWO (2) “A” HITS PER CASE! (1 in each shipper)
* Collect signatures from FIFTY (50) DIFFERENT HALL OF FAMERS!
* Look for MULTI-SIGNED CARDS including up to EIGHT SIGNATURES PER CARD!
Highlights include:
- World Champions (virtually every team from 1946 to present!)
- Enshrinement Signatures – Class of 1972 Dual (#’d of 10)
- Enshrinement Signatures – Class of 2007 Dual (#’d of 50)
- Enshrinement Signatures – Class of 1991 Triple (#’d of 15)
- 3000 Hit Club Quad Signed (#’d of 5)
- 500 Home Run Club Seven Signed (#’d of 3)
- Strikeout Kings Quad Signed (#’d of 10)
- 1960’s Superstars Eight Signed (#’d of 2)
- And many more!

PRODUCT BREAKDOWN:
Single Signed Autographed Cards (2 per pack!):
o Retired Stars Signatures
o Active Stars Signatures
o Prospects Signatures
o Young Stars Signatures
o Enshrinement Signatures (Varied #)

Multi-Signed and Manufactured Patch Autograph Cards (1 per pack!):
o Dual Young Stars/Prospects Autographs
o Triple Young Stars/Prospects Autographs
o Quad Young Stars/Prospects Autographs
o Compatriots Signatures – Dual, Triple, Quad, Five, Six, Seven, Eight Autographs (Varied #)
o Enshrinement Signatures – Dual, Triple, Quad, Five, Six, Seven, Eight Autographs (Varied #)
o Franchise Focus Signatures – Dual, Triple, Quad, Five, Six, Seven, Eight Autographs (Varied #)
o Hot List Signatures – Dual, Triple, Quad, Five, Six, Seven, Eight Autographs (Varied #)
o Signature Season – Dual, Triple, Quad, Five, Six, Seven, Eight Autographs (Varied #)
o Superstars Signatures - Dual, Triple, Quad, Five, Six, Seven, Eight Autographs (Varied #)
o Pride of a Nation Signatures – Manufactured Patch (Varied #)
o Pride of a Nation Combo Signatures – Manufactured Patch (Varied #)

[pkscards]

It's a joke at $80...$200 are you kidding me??

This makes Prime Cuts sound like a tremendous value!

[jubei777]

Definitely scary at this price for stickers.

[speedmasterp]

$200+ for 3 cards is always risky, this takes it to another level with the idea of not having an MLB license or the chance for on-card autos.

But who knows, maybe it'll look good, get popular and start sellling for $500 pack.

That's the beauty of this industry.

[speedmasterp]

OK, now that i'm reading slower, looks like the $80 would be per box, with there being 3 boxes per display box to get to the $200+. Sorry for the confusion.

[Ajax1723]

OK, now that i'm reading slower, looks like the $80 would be per box, with there being 3 boxes per display box to get to the $200+. Sorry for the confusion.

So I guess similar to 07 bowman's best in that regard.

[RichSlyFox14]

Probably becasue 80% of these guys didn't go to college ;)
lol yeah i know i lot of the stars hit the pros straight out of high school, but there still are a lot of good guys that played some college ball. UD could definately make a set out of them imo. plus add retired stars & legends and they'd have enough for a solid set. it's at least a lot better than no image sets haha

[VWBUS1978]

OK, now that i'm reading slower, looks like the $80 would be per box, with there being 3 boxes per display box to get to the $200+. Sorry for the confusion.

$80 makes this better than Prime Cuts IMO... UD has ALMOST always exceeded panini in the quality department.

[Frankp2311]

Can's be worse than Prime Cuts. Thats enough for me to keep my eye on it.

[VWBUS1978]

NO, WAIT!!! it is $200+++ per box, i just found the pre-sell somewhere. sickening. not a card image to be found.

[cruiserdaddy7]

NO, WAIT!!! it is $200+++ per box, i just found the pre-sell somewhere. sickening. not a card image to be found.

I just spoke with Sports Images and it is $80 wholesale to dealers. If someone is charging $200 they are ripping you off. Dont believe the hype. Its $80 and 18-box case. There are 2-3 Level A autographs per case.

[Ajax1723]

Yep, can confirm, 255 a box. Cannot think of a way you get that value from it with no license and no cut autos. That site is gonna rip a few people off if they sell it for that price.

[RichSlyFox14]

cardboard connection is reporting 3 cards per pack, 3 packs per box. so 9 autos total per box. a price isn't mentioned but that's probably where the $200 is coming from.

if this is the case, i might actually buy a box lol. the pre-sell info says it has a really stacked checklist and its a very limited product. of course i want to see what the cards look like though. hopefully they aren't that bad, considering the circumstances.

[alexcampos]

So it's going to look something like this one?

2011 Upper Deck World of Sports Athletes of the World Autographs - Eric Hosmer | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Upper-Deck-World-of-Sports-Athletes-of-the-World-Autographs-Eric-Hosmer-/230776862798?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35bb5f784e)

WOW...that's just PAINFULLY sad....

Upper Deck seriously needs to do something drastic or just go away!

[cruiserdaddy7]

Yep, can confirm, 255 a box. Cannot think of a way you get that value from it with no license and no cut autos. That site is gonna rip a few people off if they sell it for that price.

So are there 3 mini boxes inside a box? I was told $80 a box for a 3 autograph pack. This is direct from Images.

[Ajax1723]

The site I'm seeing has a 255 dollar box, 1 pack, three cards per pack. They could just be wrong, but that's a huge mistake if they are.

[johnorpheus]

$250 a box.... $80 a box.... Doesn't matter. If I found it giftwrapped on my door step, I'd piss on it and mail it back to UD.

[mwheeler27]

$250 a box.... $80 a box.... Doesn't matter. If I found it giftwrapped on my door step, I'd piss on it and mail it back to UD.

Made me laugh!

Oh....how the mighty have fallen. :flex:

Serves them right for all that cheating they were doing. Counterfeiting cards, etc., etc., etc. should have never, ever, ever entered their minds. :rolleyes:

[Jaypers]

I emailed Chris Carlin at UD about images or a checklist. His reply --


"We will not be releasing any information or images on the 2012 SP Signature
Edition Baseball, but rather letting the product speak for itself when it
releases on May 1."

[johnorpheus]

I emailed Chris Carlin at UD about images or a checklist. His reply --


"We will not be releasing any information or images on the 2012 SP Signature
Edition Baseball, but rather letting the product speak for itself when it
releases on May 1."

Translation: "If people see what this $#%@ actually looks like they will not buy it."

[mightbe]

And "Manfufactured Patches"

It'd be funny if UD just released it with team logos and that since they are just about finished anyways

[Ajax1723]

I emailed Chris Carlin at UD about images or a checklist. His reply --


"We will not be releasing any information or images on the 2012 SP Signature
Edition Baseball, but rather letting the product speak for itself when it
releases on May 1."

They're trying to get the impulse buys, so that when people open it, they don't know what to expect, and just get a no name triple auto and two prospects.

Or, to go even worse in quality, three decoys with auto stickers on them.

[Laxbam619]

unreal, im suprised to see how this product does though...some of the autos they released in the 2010 version were pretty good...that jeter, ripken, smith, yount quad is nasty...its just the lack of pictures kills it

[mightbe]

Or, to go even worse in quality, three decoys with auto stickers on them.

Nice!

By the way, you have the best Ebay ID!:)!

[Ajax1723]

Nice!

By the way, you have the best Ebay ID!:)!

Haha, thanks, always get a couple people that love it, when I thought of it years ago, I just had to change my eBay name it to immediately, had it that way ever since :)!

And I may add, not touching this new UD product. Scares me, even at 80 a box.

[bigroger1980]

i think this stuff is $255 a box , 1 pack 3 autos, so you are paying over $80 for each auto:eek: other website has presell info

[Ajax1723]

i think this stuff is $255 a box , 1 pack 3 autos, so you are paying over $80 for each auto:eek: other website has presell info

Yea, that's what we've been talking about, but it seems distributors and "that website" have varying info. I'm sure we won't know for sure untl the 1st, but I can't see this product having any steam consider a) NOTHING known about it, b) Bowman is released 8 days after this c) It's Upper Deck and d) It's Upper Deck.

At either 80, or 250, there is an at best (whether its a 6 or 18 box case) 1/3 chance you get whatever an "A" Auto turns out to be. Not worth the risk at 80 OR 250 a box.

[dashcounter]

i think this stuff is $255 a box , 1 pack 3 autos, so you are paying over $80 for each auto:eek: other website has presell info

theres no way. i cant see this being more expensive than exquisite per card.

[Ajax1723]

theres no way. i cant see this being more expensive than exquisite per card.

You never know, Upper Deck could reallybe seeing this as a "last hurrah" and trying to milk every single cent they can. Their image is already tarnished in the baseball card world, and they are getting sued left and right, so maybe this is a final bang, get every cent they can type of thing. Why be secretive about your first baseball product of the year that you are selling for that much money? I don't know any shop owners that are going to say "really, no info, sticker autos and no checklist? I'll take 10 cases!!"

I see there being no chance that this is a set with lots of value unless abosolutely no one orders it and theres only like 100 cases made. Which I highly doubt wil happen, there will be enough ordered from pure curiousity to make the product watered down enough that there won't be a quad auto every 3 boxes.

[mightbe]

Well, considering Upper Deck is not even allowed to use team colors I assume this will look like that World of Sport crap

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/news-announcements/60683-mlb-properties-settles-trademark-lawsuit-upper-deck.html

[WilsonValdez]

Remember how poorly done their last Legendary Cuts was? Yeah, now just imagine that except with sticker autos instead of cuts. That's what I'm picturing.

[anusinha]

Straight from my distributor, they said nine autos for 200, three autos per pack, 1 pack per box.
Each mini case has 1 group A auto, and no checklist will be available due to legal issues.


Im guessing this is one last hurrah for UD.

[buckeyeforlife]

Yea, that's what we've been talking about, but it seems distributors and "that website" have varying info. I'm sure we won't know for sure untl the 1st, but I can't see this product having any steam consider a) NOTHING known about it, b) Bowman is released 8 days after this c) It's Upper Deck and d) It's Upper Deck.

At either 80, or 250, there is an at best (whether its a 6 or 18 box case) 1/3 chance you get whatever an "A" Auto turns out to be. Not worth the risk at 80 OR 250 a box.

if its 80 with a chance for a A list auto for every one in three boxes...sounds like pretty good odds...my only question, whats an A list auto?

[bigroger1980]

Only way this stuff has a chance if it unloads like 09 ultimate collection baseball in its breaks. I agree this could be a slim chance screw the law type unload product, but also a dump dump dump product in a bad way. I do look forward to seeing this busted (its been a long time since i said that about a ud product)!

[dhcollecting]

No Logo is bad enough, but no picture come on now that is just dumb. Its like buying autographs on index cards.

Is there any way of getting a sticker off the card without damaging the autograph? Maybe buy some cheap ones and put them on some old UD cards of the player.

[Ajax1723]

if its 80 with a chance for a A list auto for every one in three boxes...sounds like pretty good odds...my only question, whats an A list auto?

My honest guess? SOmeone that we pull from any other product and say "ehh, I've done worse".

Best case, They do have HOFers, but I doubt anyone here will be seeing these horrible looking cards and saying "I NEED that in my PC". The cards may have amazing players on them, but the value will NOT be there. I can get Longorias UD World of Sports auto from this year for like 20. There is NO other auto I can think of his that comes close to only being 20 bucks.

[Big_bootiedaddy]

LOL, typical of UD. Maybe they did a peel and restick of all the Redemptions they screwed people out of!

[WilsonValdez]

LOL, typical of UD. Maybe they did a peel and restick of all the Redemptions they screwed people out of!

You tell em big bootie daddy!

[mwheeler27]

No Logo is bad enough, but no picture come on now that is just dumb. Its like buying autographs on index cards.

Not quite...You will have upper deck's logo on the cards, so you are paying for their reputation as well. :devil:

[Metsfan1121]

Type "A" autos are probably like Braun, Longo, and Markakis.

[Zerokruel]

Remember how poorly done their last Legendary Cuts was? Yeah, now just imagine that except with sticker autos instead of cuts. That's what I'm picturing.

It was horrible, but yet people still claimed it would be better than sliced bread. As much as you tried to talk them off the ledge, they just wouldn't listen. :cool:

[sportcardtheory]

Probably the first instance where in-person autos are a better option that what can be pulled from the packs.

[johnorpheus]

Type "A" autos are probably like Braun, Longo, and Markakis.

Since they will not release a checklist, more likely Angel Pagan, Chris Heisey, and Jon Jay.

[Jaypers]

Upper Deck fast-tracks Signature Edition baseball

By Chris Olds | Beckett Baseball Editor

The next Upper Deck baseball set is coming soon — as in next week.

This year’s SP Signature Edition will arrive on May 1 with what the company is touting as “the best lineup of living baseball players ever offered in one product.”

Each three-card pack will carry a suggested retail price of $255 with three autographed cards inside — two single-signed cards and one card with multiple sigs. In some cases, the company said, there will be as many as eight signatures per card.

Of course, without a league license or players association deals for baseball, the cards are likely to be without photos or logos — and no card images have been released in advance of this fast-tracked product, which will include six boxes per case. (Want a checklist or OPG for past Signature Edition sets? Click here.)


Upper Deck’s preview information stated that there will be 50 different Hall of Famers included in this one as well as multi-signed cards for World Champions (1946-now), Hall of Famer combos from the Classes of 1972, 2007 and 1991 (get out your history books to figure out those), cards for members of the 3,000-hit club, 500-home run club and more.

Single-signed cards will include retired players, active players prospects and more, while there also will be manufactured patch autographed cards in the mix, too, with players grouped by team, Hall of Fame enshrinement, nationality and more.

[Ajax1723]

Upper Deck fast-tracks Signature Edition baseball

By Chris Olds | Beckett Baseball Editor

The next Upper Deck baseball set is coming soon — as in next week.

This year’s SP Signature Edition will arrive on May 1 with what the company is touting as “the best lineup of living baseball players ever offered in one product.”

Each three-card pack will carry a suggested retail price of $255 with three autographed cards inside — two single-signed cards and one card with multiple sigs. In some cases, the company said, there will be as many as eight signatures per card.

Of course, without a league license or players association deals for baseball, the cards are likely to be without photos or logos — and no card images have been released in advance of this fast-tracked product, which will include six boxes per case. (Want a checklist or OPG for past Signature Edition sets? Click here.)


Upper Deck’s preview information stated that there will be 50 different Hall of Famers included in this one as well as multi-signed cards for World Champions (1946-now), Hall of Famer combos from the Classes of 1972, 2007 and 1991 (get out your history books to figure out those), cards for members of the 3,000-hit club, 500-home run club and more.

Single-signed cards will include retired players, active players prospects and more, while there also will be manufactured patch autographed cards in the mix, too, with players grouped by team, Hall of Fame enshrinement, nationality and more.

So it IS 85 dollars an auto. No thanks.

[Clarka3]

85 bucks an auto without a picture or logo. yeah. sounds great.

[johnorpheus]

Upper Deck fast-tracks Signature Edition baseball

By Chris Olds | Beckett Baseball Editor

The next Upper Deck baseball set is coming soon — as in next week.

This year’s SP Signature Edition will arrive on May 1 with what the company is touting as “the best lineup of living baseball players ever offered in one product.”

Each three-card pack will carry a suggested retail price of $255 with three autographed cards inside — two single-signed cards and one card with multiple sigs. In some cases, the company said, there will be as many as eight signatures per card.

Of course, without a league license or players association deals for baseball, the cards are likely to be without photos or logos — and no card images have been released in advance of this fast-tracked product, which will include six boxes per case. (Want a checklist or OPG for past Signature Edition sets? Click here.)


Upper Deck’s preview information stated that there will be 50 different Hall of Famers included in this one as well as multi-signed cards for World Champions (1946-now), Hall of Famer combos from the Classes of 1972, 2007 and 1991 (get out your history books to figure out those), cards for members of the 3,000-hit club, 500-home run club and more.

Single-signed cards will include retired players, active players prospects and more, while there also will be manufactured patch autographed cards in the mix, too, with players grouped by team, Hall of Fame enshrinement, nationality and more.

Absolutely asinine. Unless the auto checklist begins and ends with Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle, Dimaggio, Shoeless Joe, and Honus Wagner, there is absolutely no chance of even breaking even.... Anyone who buys this should be committed to their local asylum.

[speedmasterp]

My distributor says 9 autos (3 1 pack boxes) for the $2xx, which puts it in the $20-30 range per auto.

But like someone said earlier, we'll have to see what is exactly correct once the product comes out.

It's tempting to open, but I know I wouldn't want any cards from a set that doesn't have photos, so at that point I'm strictly gambling. I usually don't win.

[Frankp2311]

Did this end up releasing today?

[WhacksPacks]

Dee oh aye

[Ajax1723]

Yea it doesn't even look like it was released, can't find any new info anywhere.

[7290morint]

Yea it doesn't even look like it was released, can't find any new info anywhere.

Also nothing but sealed product on eBay no singles at last check an hour or two ago.

[jubei777]

Saw on another site that there was an injunction on the product with an immediate hold and do not distribute. No other details from any other sites to back this up.

[ifish73]

They posted on Twitter that is was delayed. But the good news they said was no redemptions! Easy thing to guarantee on sticker liquidation.

[johnorpheus]

Probably got a call from MLB's lawyers putting a stop order on that crap.

[vikingfan101]

I was told when I called my LCS today that they heard Upper Deck was being sued, and as mentioned above, were required to have all the product they sent out to be returned to them. Shame, I was interested to see what this looked like.

[VWBUS1978]

couldn't help themselves, just keep ruining whatever REP that they had left.

besides if we want a sticker-dump, buy panini :)!

[RichSlyFox14]

oh upper deck. everything about UD is going down the crapper and yet they delay every single product they put out. what happened to 2011 ud college football legends coming out in like novemeber? ...lol it's may now...oh UD. here we go again.

[gamboooler]

I wish someone reputable would buy the UD name, keep the designers, and hire a new customer service staff.