Is Derrick Rose's career over?

[suki24]

The one and final question.

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/04/28/0428-derrick-rose-getty-2.jpg

[GoJays]

Seriously? One injury and he's done?

I think he'll be back. Maybe not the same, but he'll play again.

[Yanke3z11]

no...........

[MI Rob]

3 Rose threads since he got injured. Seriously?

[SelfDestruct808]

Well Torn ACL is one of the worst injuries as players dont come back to their full strength. But at this day in age with the technology and players with pockets, you never know.

[jcmel323]

he will be back, but will not be the same.

[rudyjustinfarrell]

I'd agree w/ the above 2 posts. NOT OVER. But it will be an uphill battle for him. GL Mr. Rose.

[Haze28]

They can rebuild him, they can make him stronger.

[Oilngo]

One serious injury and he is done. Frick Michael Redd has had like eight knee surgerys and he is still playing. It will take Rose awhile to get back. He will have to get past the mental block of; oh if I make this move, cut, jump am I going to hurt myself again.

[CARD COLLECTOR]

Time will tell.But he wont be the leaper he once was:(

[Jexter24]

nah he'll return... lots of injured players due to the packed schedule :(

[crazymj]

Blake griffin came back pretty strong after his first year season ending injury. He's still jumping pretty damn high.

[CARD COLLECTOR]

Blake griffin came back pretty strong after his first year season ending injury. He's still jumping pretty damn high.

Blakes jumping skills would of been even better if his injury would of never happened.Its not like he not going to jump again.But his way of playing will not be the same.Todays doctors are amazing .Ho knows he might just come back and be better than ever.I really do wish him the best..

[bettydaw1970]

Blakes jumping skills would of been even better if his injury would of never happened.Its not like he not going to jump again.But his way of playing will not be the same.Todays doctors are amazing .Ho knows he might just come back and be better than ever.I really do wish him the best..

totally diffrent injury..wasnt blakes a broken kneecap?
breaks can heal fine
heck in jordans 2nd year he broke his foot and missed most of the season...

knee ligaments are an nba players cryptonite...they give em 40 inch verticles (rose) 42 inch verts (shumpert) and explosive quickness, when you tear a knee ligament (especially an acl/mcl) look at it like this

a strong rubber band
you get a tear in it
you sew it back together
no way that rubber band will be anywhere close to what it was pre tear..

here is a simple diagram..

http://www.athleticadvisor.com/images/LE_images/knee/Kneeanat2.jpg

[Jin]

Blake griffin came back pretty strong after his first year season ending injury. He's still jumping pretty damn high.

completely different injury........

[CARD COLLECTOR]

totally diffrent injury..wasnt blakes a broken kneecap?
breaks can heal fine
heck in jordans 2nd year he broke his foot and missed most of the season...

knee ligaments are an nba players cryptonite...they give em 40 inch verticles (rose) 42 inch verts (shumpert) and explosive quickness, when you tear a knee ligament (especially an acl/mcl) look at it like this

a strong rubber band
you get a tear in it
you sew it back together
no way that rubber band will be anywhere close to what it was pre tear..

here is a simple diagram..

http://www.athleticadvisor.com/images/LE_images/knee/Kneeanat2.jpg

:(Oh man thats real bad.I wish nothing but the best for D Rose:(

[weirdquadguyfan]

I think he will be the R O Y next year. Oh wait, he's not even close to a rookie. I mean Brandon Roy.........:(

[mcgahee21nfl]

One serious injury and he is done. Frick Michael Redd has had like eight knee surgerys and he is still playing. It will take Rose awhile to get back. He will have to get past the mental block of; oh if I make this move, cut, jump am I going to hurt myself again.

STILL PLAYING YES. But from the first injury he had, he was for all intents and purposes -- DONE.

It is super hard to come back from injuries nowadays. Oden done, Brandon Roy done, Eric Gordon hobbling around then bowing out, Chase Utley done. Guys with recurring problems RARELY come back to stay.

Very sad. I wish him the best. He has the best chance of anyone being as young and athletic as he is...

Needless to say he was injury prone from the start.

[mcgahee21nfl]

And to those who are saying Blake's injury was a break and can heal fine yada yada. Wrong. Broken patella is one of the hardest injuries to come back from. Blake is just a freak. Kenyon Martin f'd by it, Oden f'd by it, Chase Utley f'd by it. Patella = gg in most cases. Just goes to show what a beast Blake is.

I broke my patella last year, and know first hand what it is. My knee still clicks and will never be the same.

[Kingofkings1281]

He's really starting to remind me of Penny Hardaway. I hope for his sake it doesn't shake out that way.

[puregreen5]

He's really starting to remind me of Penny Hardaway. I hope for his sake it doesn't shake out that way.


He reminds me more of Roy right now

[davidsemo]

CP3 blew out his ACL and came back fine. It will take 18 months minimum, but he'll be back

[bettydaw1970]

CP3 blew out his ACL and came back fine. It will take 18 months minimum, but he'll be back

really? his player efficiancy rating is down like 20%

[oldgoldy97]

really? his player efficiancy rating is down like 20%

I almost spit out my coffee reading this. What a ridiculous stat to throw out. The guy was in the talks for MVP this year. But I'm sure the MVP voters will see how his f-iciany rating went down and cross them off their lists. All these minute, sabremetricy-type stats that people keep coming up with make me laugh. I wish they'd put their mathematical nerdiness into something more worthwhile like reducing the deficit, figuring out how to finance a new Vikings stadium or putting an end to the dreaded PS3 ylod.

[freethrowtommy]

To all the idiots who said yes... you are idiots.

[dylan]

Didn't RG3 tear his acl??? He seems ok.

[jp98]

To all the idiots who said yes... you are idiots.

++++++++++++1

[Orangejello727]

To all the idiots who said yes... you are idiots.

I said yes. His career isnt over. But he wont be the same in my opinion.

Are you also the idiot that said Jay Williams and Bobby Hurley Jr would return from their injuries as well?


Maybe for the Rose fans, we can appease them and just give Rose a few rings because he deserves them right? lol Love the nut huggers! Hell while we're at it, lets throw in a few more MVPs for him because he deserves them before earning them

[UltimateDeron]

Are you also the idiot that said Jay Williams and Bobby Hurley Jr would return from their injuries as well?


Their injuries were much worse.

Jay Williams injuries included a severed main nerve in his leg, fractured pelvis and three torn ligaments in his left knee including the ACL.

[armyatc22]

I think he will play again BUT I doubt he will play at the same level or anywhere near it again. Prob won't play next year and I give him another 5 years after that.

[Sniped]

To all the idiots who said yes... you are idiots.

+1000..just a way for people to sell their d.rose cards for dirt so they can buy them lol
"D.rose's career is over, ill give u $20 for that rc auto" haaa

[JK8283]

His career is not over. Who knows if his athleticism will ever be 100 percent again, but there's no doubt he will be back. To the person that talked about player efficiency... Keep in mind that Rose spent several games (of the ones he played) either injured or getting back into the flow of things post-injury. Over his first 20 games or so when he was healthy he was performing just as well as last year - scoring slightly down but on fewer shots and higher FG percentage, more dimes.

[Orangejello727]

Their injuries were much worse.

Jay Williams injuries included a severed main nerve in his leg, fractured pelvis and three torn ligaments in his left knee including the ACL.

To my point, are you assuring me that when he gets back to playing he will be 100% of who he is today or better? Yes or no?

All we can do is speculate on how he comes back. I dont understand how anyone can sit here and guarentee me that he is coming back at the same level. How do you know? Based on this type of information, we should see a downward trend on his cards values. Especially from an investment perspective.

[Orangejello727]

+1000..just a way for people to sell their d.rose cards for dirt so they can buy them lol
"D.rose's career is over, ill give u $20 for that rc auto" haaa

Works both ways. I dont see Rose collector/fans paying top dollar or more for his cards at the moment.

[Sniped]

Works both ways. I dont see Rose collector/fans paying top dollar or more for his cards at the moment.

Im not saying top dollar, but alot will take advantage of this and lowball the hell out of people..for people to say his career is over is just ridiculous to me

[freethrowtommy]

To my point, are you assuring me that when he gets back to playing he will be 100% of who he is today or better? Yes or no?

All we can do is speculate on how he comes back. I dont understand how anyone can sit here and guarentee me that he is coming back at the same level. How do you know? Based on this type of information, we should see a downward trend on his cards values. Especially from an investment perspective.

NO, HIS CAREER IS NOT OVER.

At this point, the only thing that is certain is he will be out for a while, but an ACL tear isn't a career threatening or ending injury, especially given how young he is. With modern medicine, his knee will be 100% again if it is just an ACL tear... it will be on Derrick to put the injury behind him and trust the knee again. If he doesn't come back 100%, it is in his head.

If you voted yes, you are either a homer who hates the player or you have no idea what you are talking about.

[pee632]

He will be back and he will still play at a high level when he returns. As point out CP3 had the same injury. Modern medicine and the access that he has to a great rehab facility will make all the difference.

[Orangejello727]

NO, HIS CAREER IS NOT OVER.

At this point, the only thing that is certain is he will be out for a while, but an ACL tear isn't a career threatening or ending injury, especially given how young he is. With modern medicine, his knee will be 100% again if it is just an ACL tear... it will be on Derrick to put the injury behind him and trust the knee again. If he doesn't come back 100%, it is in his head.

If you voted yes, you are either a homer who hates the player or you have no idea what you are talking about.

We'll pick up this conversation at the start of next season.

[jubei777]

Drama queen...

[BullsFan747]

Despite the fact that I think it's ridiculous that the OP even started this particular thread I wanted to put my 2cents in somewhere where it might be read without starting up a whole new thread.

Derrick Rose will be back, he's young, he'll probably have some of the best doctors and hopefully he'll take his time coming back. Even if he loses a little quickness and explosiveness I think he'll still be faster and quicker than most guys in the league.

But the one thing that I think that I don't think anyone else has mentioned is that even if he comes out of it not quite the player he was Rose will adapt. He'll figure out what he can and can't do and remold his game, not completely, but maybe he'll be more selective with his drives to the basket, he'll work on his post game more, he'll continue to work on his jump shot, maybe become a better passer. It may take him a bit to get back, but I think he'll be back.

And to people who are comparing this to Oden, Grant Hill, Brandon Roy. Completely different situation at this point. Having an injury plagued season isn't the same as having year after year of serious injuries.

Way to early to count Rose out!

[drtom2005]

We'll pick up this conversation at the start of next season.

Not the being of next season. Because of the way he plays, he shouldn't rush back. Probably 2013-14 at the earliest is come back date. If comes back earlier, he is putting himself at high risk of a career-ending injury.

ACL Tear Surgery Rehab - How Long Does ACL Tear Rehab Take (http://orthopedics.about.com/od/aclinjury/f/rehabtime.htm)

[Orangejello727]

Not the being of next season. Because of the way he plays, he shouldn't rush back. Probably 2013-14 at the earliest is come back date. If comes back earlier, he is putting himself at high risk of a career-ending injury.

ACL Tear Surgery Rehab - How Long Does ACL Tear Rehab Take (http://orthopedics.about.com/od/aclinjury/f/rehabtime.htm)

Thats fine. The longer he is away from the game, the harder it is for him to comeback.

[Bizzydesigner]

I say we take a poll on the OPs posting career being over or not.

Rose will be back when ever he is healthy and he will be fine. This compact year (And possible Addidas) did him, and multiple others in (See Dwight Howard among others) And even if he were to come back at say 90% of what he was (wont happen) a 90% rose beats the majority of every other player in the league.

[IamRalpho]

This thread is embarrassing. Every injury people think about his career being over, how old is Rose? 24?

He will be back and he will be a superstar, the morbid reaction to this is disgraceful. I dont understand it, ACLs get torn all the time and people come back (MOST OF THE TIME) but when you are a superstar athlete at the top of your game and 24! You will be back.

[Jin]

people think his career is over because he is going to lose his quickness, explosiveness, and leaping ability (which he will.) what they don't talk about is rose's insatiable need to improve. he will find other ways to succeed, he will become a better student of the game, he will become a smarter (and even possibly a more effective) player for his team.

[Bunson]

I'm assuming that a lot of people haven't torn an ACL before, because there are many misconceptions here. The ACL isn't "sewn" back together, it is rather replaced with a cadaver tendon, or a piece of tendon from elsewhere in your body (patellar tendon/hamstring). They drill through your femur, and tibia and thread this piece of tendon through. It's not necessarily the ACL that you need to worry about, but instead the cartilage/meniscus. That is what truly hampers athleticism and leaping ability. This is by no means career ending. Perfect world, no cartilage damage, he should see minutes in late December/January. They have world class staff to rehab him -- pretty straigh forward injury without meniscus trouble.

[alexcampos]

3 Rose threads since he got injured. Seriously?

3????

Where have you been?

There's been like 10, and I'm NOT exaggerating.

To all the idiots who said yes... you are idiots.

No they're NOT!

There's really no way to know what will happen to Rose.

However, we HAVE seen this script before in the NBA, where promising and good talented young players completely burn out!

Why is Rose an exception????

Because he won an MVP last year???



I personally don't think his career is "Over" but he might never be the same, he might never be as good as he was in 2010-11....that's a VERY REAL possibility.

[MikeMamba]

honestly, for someone that rely's on quickness and getting that quick push of that left leg, and with all his injuries he had this season. I don't think we will see the Derrick Rose that won the MVP.

[pac213up]

His career is not over but I do think he needs to adjust his game if he wants to excel for any real length. This was my feeling before the injury. Hard to play that aggressive at that size for any length of time without injuries creeping in. Needs to balance the aggression with some finesse.

[Chiefs2011]

You guys should be more worried about his back problems then the ACL tear. His style of play causes him to get beat up every game. He needs to be more of a shooter then what he is now. Right now he's AI v2.0 IMO

[paul06901]

It's all speculation either way. None of you KNOW the exact details of the injury. None of you KNOW how Drose feels EXACTLY. There's no use in saying either way if his career is over.

Some of you are swearing he will be back and a superstar! That is highly unlikely. It's a severe injury. Especially to someone like Rose who's main asset to his game is his quickness/leaping ability. That part of his game is destroyed.

IMO, he will be nowhere near his normal game. I really like Drose, and his game...but that's the truth right there. Anyone who says otherwise is just being hopeful.


Also, combined with his other previous injuries (back/etc.), this compounding of injuries can be quite a mess.

I find it more realistic to say his career is over, than to speculate and say he will be anywhere NEAR 100%!

[fullmetal]

He will play again, but he might not ever be the same.

I believe it requires more mental recovery than physical recovery to comeback from this type of injury. No matter how perfect the physical healing is, he might always play gingerly because of the fear of a reinjury.

Look at football running backs after a knee injury. Even if they physically return to 100% of pre-injury abilty they often never regain confidence in that knee. As a spectator you can see it.

[cardozo]

They can rebuild him, they can make him stronger.

the newest terminator???

[IamRalpho]

the newest terminator???

Six Million Dollar man!

[cardozo]

Six Million Dollar man!

randy savage???

[IamRalpho]

randy savage???

Now I am confused, and I hope you are too.

[cardozo]

Now I am confused, and I hope you are too.

im always confused :(

[dmogull]

No, not over. With utilization of modern medicine and physical therapy techniques, there is a good chance he will come back just as strong, if not stronger than before. Furthermore, the extended rest will give him ample (and otherwise unavailible) time to rejuvenate the rest of his body. His athleticism is innate and will never just "go away."

I think the most important aspect of his recovery and return (as others have also stated), is his ability to trust his knee. The ligament will most likely be even stronger than it was originally and allow DRose to push it to its limits (as he did, pre-injury). Of course this won't happen overnight, but I have confidence he will get there again (it takes a lot more than athleticism to become the #1 ranked player in the WORLD i.e. MVP NBA)....

[paul06901]

No, not over. With utilization of modern medicine and physical therapy techniques, there is a good chance he will come back just as strong, if not stronger than before. Furthermore, the extended rest will give him ample (and otherwise unavailible) time to rejuvenate the rest of his body. His athleticism is innate and will never just "go away."

I think the most important aspect of his recovery and return (as others have also stated), is his ability to trust his knee. The ligament will most likely be even stronger than it was originally and allow DRose to push it to its limits (as he did, pre-injury). Of course this won't happen overnight, but I have confidence he will get there again (it takes a lot more than athleticism to become the #1 ranked player in the WORLD i.e. MVP NBA)....

I'd say yes if you were referring to Shaq or Lebron, but the key component to Drose's game is his quickness. If he is magically fixed to 100%, even then the tentativeness will come into play and have a severe effect on his game.

IMO, to say he'll be anything more than 75% at best for the rest of his career is wishful thinking. :(

[dmogull]

valid points bro...I am definitely being optimistic in my assessment :) the injury was so tragic and sudden that I hope nothing but the best for DRose (I don't hold any of his cards either...just have always liked him as a player and from what I've seen/heard, as a person).

[crazymj]

Wow i did not know there over 200 people that actually reads these threads.

[paul06901]

valid points bro...I am definitely being optimistic in my assessment :) the injury was so tragic and sudden that I hope nothing but the best for DRose (I don't hold any of his cards either...just have always liked him as a player and from what I've seen/heard, as a person).

I agree, I wish it happened to Carmelo or Wade ;)

[suki24]

I agree, I wish it happened to Carmelo or Wade ;)

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/923112/heat.gif

[alexcampos]

A better question to the thread would have been:

Will Rose ever be the dominant player of 2010-11?

And my answer to ^That question is....NO!

[Newcollector]

Lol what? 99.5% of all players with torn ACL's dont end there careers, lol. What is this?

[chansen10]

I tore my acl and mcl in october playing football this past october. I had surgery at the beginning of december and by beginning of april i was able to run and jump. It will be another month or so until i can cut but i can tell you one thing my leg is as strong as ever but mentally i would be way to afraid to go out and play a game of basketball or football and even if i played it would be very conservative. His careers not over but i dont think he will ever be the drose we all are used to seeing

[pat10021839]

No his career is not over. One of the hardest working players in the NBA and who prior to this year has only missed six games since his freshman year of college. It will take a year to 18 months but he will be back and one of the best in the league.

[freethrowtommy]

No they're NOT!


Yes... yes they are.

OP's question is, and I quote:
Is Derrick Rose's career over?

The question isn't "will he be dominant again?" or "will he be 100%?"... So yes, they are idiots. He will resume his career over this. It isn't an open ended question.

I think he will be back to 100%, but that still doesn't change the fact that I voted that his career won't be over, because there is no WAY in hell he retires over this.

Quit trying to change the question!

[blackbears86]

CP3 blew out his ACL and came back fine. It will take 18 months minimum, but he'll be back

totally agree. He will be back--it will take a while, but he will be fine.

[SacGWYNN19]

He will come back, but never the same. Regardless of advanced medicine nowadays, it is still a ligament and quite import one. Not a bone, not a muscle, but a rubberband. I don't know too many rubberbands that are torn(completely), and ever get back to normal. Now, if he was having microfracture surgery, I would say times have changed since Penny/Webber and the such.

[alexcampos]

OP's question is, and I quote:


The question isn't "will he be dominant again?" or "will he be 100%?"... So yes, they are idiots. He will resume his career over this. It isn't an open ended question.

I think he will be back to 100%, but that still doesn't change the fact that I voted that his career won't be over, because there is no WAY in hell he retires over this.

Quit trying to change the question!

I mean, it depends....

If he comes back as a SHELL of his former self and his stats completely fall, then one could say that his "Superstar" career HAS ended.

Yes, I know the question isn't open ended, but I'm just saying that Rose could be "Done" as a superstar.

[PackAttack419]

i hope rose recovers and develops his game more and changes his style so that he relies less on athleticism and freakish abilities. every nba player gets to that point sooner or later, whether it's from injury or simply getting older. his body has proven this season to be too fragile to just keep going hard in the paint recklessly.

i feel worse for iman shumpert for several reasons, but since rose has 1000 times more fans, i guess there'll be a lot more threads/posts/prayers for rose than shumpert. hope shumpert comes back strong and determined!

[fullmetal]

No his career is not over. One of the hardest working players in the NBA and who prior to this year has only missed six games since his freshman year of college. It will take a year to 18 months but he will be back and one of the best in the league.

One of the biggest game changers in life is the day you realize you are not invincible. We all have this day. It is an eye-opener. When you do come to the realization that your body is weaker than your mind it actually lowers your confidence in yourself. The trust and faith you had in your body now waivers.

His body may fully heal, but his realization that his body has weaknesses will be his toughest opponent. Can you recover from that?

I think the majority of this site is probably of the age that they have not had their own realization. Great for you! Though, it will happen. You will understand one day. I hope the day is as far away as possible.

[pat10021839]

You will understand one day. I hope the day is as far away as possible.

If you actually knew the person you are talking about. Try to keep your generalizations to yourself if you know nothing about me or my experiences. The response I made was about Derrick Rose, not myself.

[fullmetal]

If you actually knew the person you are talking about. Try to keep your generalizations to yourself if you know nothing about me or my experiences. The response I made was about Derrick Rose, not myself.

Calm down. Where did this come from?

My post was directed to the masses, not AT you. (Notice: the majority of this site)

[drob50]

Calm down. Where did this come from?

My post was directed to the masses, not AT you. (Notice: the majority of this site)

I realised it after my 13th knee dislocation :(

But I will still reach my goal of being able to dunk with 2 hands before I am 30! Then I will take the 'meh, I'm knackered attitude' lol

[fullmetal]

I realised it after my 13th knee dislocation :(

But I will still reach my goal of being able to dunk with 2 hands before I am 30! Then I will take the 'meh, I'm knackered attitude' lol

Or when I lean over to pick up a cat toy or move a throw rug and my herniated disc impinges my spinal nerve. Yep, I throw my back out with heavy lifting.

[drob50]

Or when I lean over to pick up a cat toy or move a throw rug and my herniated disc impinges my spinal nerve. Yep, I throw my back out with heavy lifting.

Toughen up princess! hahaha..... :p

[fullmetal]

Toughen up princess! hahaha..... :p

You know it! I love my tiara.

I believe I have a moderately high pain threshhold, but when I battle a nerve the nerve ALWAYS wins.

[dmogull]

You know it! I love my tiara.

I believe I have a moderately high pain threshhold, but when I battle a nerve the nerve ALWAYS wins.

i feel u man, I have a herniated L4-L5 and L5-S1...the worst

[SportsItUpCards]

No. Majority WINS!!! :D haha

But at the end of the day, only his knee will do the talking....

[fullmetal]

No. Majority WINS!!! :D haha

But at the end of the day, only his knee will do the talking....


His knee talks? I've heard it all.

[trixstar]

Rose out 8-12 months

Doctor: Bulls' Derrick Rose out 8-12 months - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/doctor-bulls-derrick-rose-8-205013901--nba.html;_ylt=AvR3Rl5i.XL4VCKkekKmWEo5nYcB)