2012 NBA Draft Lottery

[theautographkid]

Who do you guys, think will get the 1st 3 picks? I think, it would be #1. Charlotte #2 Cavs #2 Wizards. Feel free, to discuss, who they would also take with those picks! :D :flex: :)!

[suki24]

Anthony Davis to Bobcats in 20 minutes.

[volblorx8634]

I seriously hope the Kings get the 1 or 2 pick. Boy do they need it...

[Tarheelsfan2012]

As a Bobcats fan lol I can assure you we wont be getting the #1 pick. Its only happened like twice out of the past 10 years that the worst team got the first pick. I'll say the top 3 will be
1. Washington
2.Cleveland
3.Charlotte-I wont be surprised if we fall to #4, which is the lowest we can go

[theautographkid]

As a Bobcats fan lol I can assure you we wont be getting the #1 pick. Its only happened like twice out of the past 10 years that the worst team got the first pick. I'll say the top 3 will be
1. Washington
2.Cleveland
3.Charlotte-I wont be surprised if we fall to #4, which is the lowest we can go

I agree, those teams will be in the top 3, but Charlotte needs a lot of help, and not just the #1 pick

[Yanke3z11]

As a Bobcats fan lol I can assure you we wont be getting the #1 pick. Its only happened like twice out of the past 10 years that the worst team got the first pick. I'll say the top 3 will be
1. Washington
2.Cleveland
3.Charlotte-I wont be surprised if we fall to #4, which is the lowest we can go

Wait... bobcats fans actually do exist? Haha

[murrke03]

the one with the highest percentage rarely wins... sorry jordan you won't get to screw up another number 1 pick

[Tarheelsfan2012]

Wait... bobcats fans actually do exist? Haha

Ha most dont admit it, lol I myself was hesitant when I typed it.

[theautographkid]

Wait... bobcats fans actually do exist? Haha

Haha, I was thinking the same thing.

[rmiller1k]

Please nets get a top 3 pick!!!!!

[suki24]

Wait... bobcats fans actually do exist? Haha

Didn't know that either.

[theautographkid]

Ha most dont admit it, lol I myself was hesitant when I typed it.

Better than being a front runner though. You earned my respect :D

[CALVINXLIONSX81]

Hornets will get the #1 pick, duhhhh

[theautographkid]

Hornets will get the #1 pick, duhhhh

JB, just predicted that lol

[Vintage Collector]

Please nets get a top 3 pick!!!!!

Please is right. So that stupid trade doesn't bite us in the ass.:eek:

[theautographkid]

Broussard, predicting the hometown team gets the #1 pick! Lets go Cavs!

[sunsfan8]

i need a miracle here! 0.7%... like my odds!:flex:

[theautographkid]

i need a miracle here! 0.7%... like my odds!:flex:

Wilbon, predicted the Suns to get the first pick...Good luck :)!

[trixstar]

Hopefully whoever does get the top pick will move their team to Seattle in a few years :D

[sunsfan8]

Wilbon, predicted the Suns to get the first pick...Good luck :)!

yeah i saw hope he's right lol

[theautographkid]

And here we go! Good luck to your teams guys!

[sunsfan8]

stop talking and announce already!

[murrke03]

haha who can send the hotter women?

[sunsfan8]

well the gilbert kid is here again... cavs get davis!

[theautographkid]

well the gilbert kid is here again... cavs get davis!

Nick Gilbert, is a great kid! Lol, its not over just yet!

[IamRalpho]

Teams I dont want to get Anthony Davis: Cavs and Pistons

Because they will be awesome sooner than later if they do

[sunsfan8]

no miracle for me:(

[Boldstar6]

hornets in the top 3.....rigged of course

[theautographkid]

#4 pick :(

[rmiller1k]

Nets will mock me to the grave!!!!!

[trixstar]

Stern rigged the top pick for NO since Tom Benson saved the team by buying them.

[SelfDestruct808]

hornets in the top 3.....rigged of course

Only if they get #1. Hornets draft 1,Bobcats 2. My prediction

[CP3toOKC]

I want NOH to get #1 pick, but I pity thr Bobcats so I #1 will go to Bobcats, 2nd to NOH

[Brad]

hornets in the top 3.....rigged of course

part of the deal to sell the team...

[Tarheelsfan2012]

lol New Orleans better not get #1. They already took the Hornets from me 10 years ago.

[theautographkid]

Recap
14. Houston
13. Suns
12. Buck
11. Blazers
10. Hornets
9. Pistons
8. Raptors
7. Warriors
6. Blazers...from Nets
5. Kings
4. Cavs :(
3. Wizards
2. Bobcats
1. Hornets

[trixstar]

#@#@#@#@ is so rigged

[aircharlotte]

Let's go bobcats!

[u_want_my_cards]

Hahahaha lottery is rigged. How stupid can stern be.

[sunsfan8]

get the pitchforks!

[SelfDestruct808]

New it...... Gordon and Davis a duo

[rmiller1k]

DIE STERN!!!!!!!!!!!

[bbplaya11]

Rigged 100%

[freethrowtommy]

Haha... here it comes! Stern pulled a Knicks-Ewing move again!

[Zacky1053]

What a joke....

[Brad]

They don't even try to hide it anymore, haha

[Tarheelsfan2012]

I call it rigged! lol making up for the CP3 trade.

[IamRalpho]

Yikes. Sucks to be the Bobcats

[MikeMamba]

The Hornets will fall for the hype and select a bust.... Just watch...

[theautographkid]

Stern is a horrible commissioner. Davis should be happy...better to be a Hornet, than a Bobcat

[Boldstar6]

that unibrow is freakin ridiculous lol

[knicks_please]

wow....all i can say is wow............

[freethrowtommy]

The Hornets will fall for the hype and select a bust.... Just watch...

Pretty sure they can't #@#@#@#@ this up... Davis is a lock and will be pretty damn good.

[MikeMamba]

Pretty sure they can't #@#@#@#@ this up... Davis is a lock and will be pretty damn good.

no he won't...

He has no offense game. Pretty good on D and that is about it.

[Tarheelsfan2012]

Well I hope we go with Michael Kidd-Gilchrist at #2

[bbplaya11]

Hornet look good with the two picks and gordon, but why did they not have okafor on the roster right there?

[IamRalpho]

no he won't...

He has no offense game. Pretty good on D and that is about it.

Why are you so negative? Kid hasnt even been drafted yet and he is already bad to you.

Kid is going to be very good, perfect spot for him. Hes the best player in the draft.

[asujbl]

Jordan won't pass on a UNC guy at #2 - he's probably happy he didn't get #1 so now he can waste a pick on Barnes. Haha

[theautographkid]

Hopefully Beal or Kidd-Gilchrist, can drop to #4. On NBA countdown, Wilbon thinks it is rigged, and Broussard, thinks that it can lead to a rigged conspiracy

[Boldstar6]

which one is more of a slap in the face joke...tonight? or chicago @ #9 jumping all the way to land one derrick rose?

[sesmarine04]

I didn't read the whole thread but has anyone mentioned or thought about how much this might be rigged? Last year Cavs get it to make up for LeBum leaving and this year New Orleans gets it after the chris paul debacle/ stern probably guaranteed the new owner a #1 pick?

[theautographkid]

which one is more of a slap in the face joke...tonight? or chicago @ #9 jumping all the way to land one derrick rose?

Tonight. I mean, what Chicago did, happened to the Cavs last year, but nobody expected the Hornets to be #1.

[theautographkid]

I didn't read the whole thread but has anyone mentioned or thought about how much this might be rigged? Last year Cavs get it to make up for LeBum leaving and this year New Orleans gets it after the chris paul debacle/ stern probably guaranteed the new owner a #1 pick?

I was thinking the exact same thing!

[MikeMamba]

Why are you so negative? Kid hasnt even been drafted yet and he is already bad to you.

Kid is going to be very good, perfect spot for him. Hes the best player in the draft.

Drafted or not, I have seen him play plenty of times.

But we will see. He is good on defense. But more of a weak side defender coming in for blocks... He really needs to bulk up and get a jump shot.

[Boldstar6]

bodywise and skillwise....anthony davis=marcus camby?

[MikeMamba]

bodywise and skillwise....anthony davis=marcus camby?

Tyson Chandler???

[knicks_please]

when you really look at it, its honestly not too surprising they didnt get the #1 like so many of the worst teams dont...its basically like 25% for them or 75% for the field to get it...and the #2 team gets almost as many 4 digit combinations as the #1 seed...its not set in stone by any means the 1st team will get it...actually against the field its unlikely...they have the BEST chance but its still very much up for grabs

[ivbaseball06]

I really hope the Cavs get a big man like Thomas Robinson or Andre Drummond. Good point guard and a good big man are the first pieces to a good team if you ask me. Just look at Minnesota before Rubio got hurt.

[thepistonsfan]

What other sports league in the entire world GOES BEHIND CLOSED DOORS to determine what team gets 1st shot at new talent? Answer: there is none

[theautographkid]

What other sports league in the entire world GOES BEHIND CLOSED DOORS to determine what team gets 1st shot at new talent? Answer: there is none

Well, that's because no other sports league, does the ping pong balls. They always give the #1 pick, to the team with the worst record.

[CALVINXLIONSX81]

So who was the first person to call that the hornets would get the #1 pick, :)

[fullmetal]

Will any NBA talent be in the upcoming draft?

[theautographkid]

Will any NBA talent be in the upcoming draft?

Yeah, I'd say some talent, but it is not the strongest draft

[theautographkid]

So who was the first person to call that the hornets would get the #1 pick, :)

That guy lol :)!

[lambeauleap87]

Anybody still think the NBA isn't all just completely rigged? I've been saying it for awhile now.

[asujbl]

As a Cavs fan I'm still pumped - I have no problem with MKG, Beal, or Drummond at #4 - might even be talked into Barnes or Robinson - anything in the Top 5 this year - is a big time guy.

[UltimateDeron]

bodywise and skillwise....anthony davis=marcus camby?

I see more Kevin Garnett with a little bit of Marcus Camby.

This is huge for the Hornets.

[UltimateDeron]

Anybody still think the NBA isn't all just completely rigged? I've been saying it for awhile now.

I do. I called that the Hornets would get the #1 pick after the CP3 trade. I knew it was going to happen.

[lambeauleap87]

I do. I called that the Hornets would get the #1 pick after the CP3 trade. I knew it was going to happen.

NBA owns team...trades star player...finally sells team...said team gets #1 pick.

[UltimateDeron]

NBA owns team...trades star player...finally sells team...said team gets #1 pick.

Exactly. I feel as if it was part of the deal. That and that the Hornets will get the 2014 NBA All Star game.

[thepistonsfan]

Well, that's because no other sports league, does the ping pong balls. They always give the #1 pick, to the team with the worst record.


Ummmmmmmmmmmmm.......there is a simple solution. Do the ping pong ball selection process on live TV, not behind closed doors. There will always be tin foil hat wearing coo coo clocks, but most people would stop believing that the lottery is rigged...including me.

[jetscollector10]

Damn, the Hornets are gonna be a LOADED team for group breaks next season. Products will actually have rcs, and they will have Anthony Davis and a potential very good player at #10.

[bigcwd2000]

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm.......there is a simple solution. Do the ping pong ball selection process on live TV, not behind closed doors. There will always be tin foil hat wearing coo coo clocks, but most people would stop believing that the lottery is rigged...including me.

That is exactly how I feel. It makes the process very sketchy when you don't do the actually lottery drawing live where everyone can see it. If it isn't rigged then there should be nothing to hide.

[asujbl]

People realize that ESPN likes this right? That everyone talks about conspiracy theories...

There is a reason they choose not to televise the actual drawing. It creates a buzz.

NBA can't do anything about it. ESPN owns the rights to broadcast the Lottery.

[jbstrojan]

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm.......there is a simple solution. Do the ping pong ball selection process on live TV, not behind closed doors. There will always be tin foil hat wearing coo coo clocks, but most people would stop believing that the lottery is rigged...including me.

Exactly! Why doesn't anybody ever bring this up to Stern? If it's legit, PROVE it by recording it.

[bigcwd2000]

NBA can't do anything about it. ESPN owns the rights to broadcast the Lottery.

Then send it to TNT. :D

[Jin]

pretty much kneedeep horseshi*t right there. so blatantly rigged. does anybody know how they actually pick the teams? i know before they used to just dump team names into a giant ball and churn the thing.

[mrveggieman]

pretty much kneedeep horseshi*t right there. so blatantly rigged. does anybody know how they actually pick the teams? i know before they used to just dump team names into a giant ball and churn the thing.



Yeah I like that one better. It takes away the incentive for teams to tank.

[SelfDestruct808]

I'm calling it, Brooklyn Nets will get the #1 Draft Pick next year, ESPECIALLY if the predicted #1 will be an immediate Franchise Changer. It will make sense for them to get #1. Following year will be bobcats.

[jlzinck]

Yall Wild Boyz r crazy calling this fixed....what's next? U telling me rasslin is fixed to?

[UltimateDeron]

pretty much kneedeep horseshi*t right there. so blatantly rigged. does anybody know how they actually pick the teams? i know before they used to just dump team names into a giant ball and churn the thing.

I wanted to know the exact details as well so I researched it and this is what I found:

The Point Forward Posts An NBA draft lottery conspiracy? It didn’t seem that way (http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/05/31/an-nba-draft-lottery-conspiracy-it-didnt-seem-that-way/?sct=nba_t11_a1)

After reading that I am now not so sure it's rigged. I'm sure there is a way it could be done, but it seems like it's legit. Crazy...haha.

[SelfDestruct808]

I wanted to know the exact details as well so I researched it and this is what I found:

The Point Forward Posts An NBA draft lottery conspiracy? It didn’t seem that way (http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/05/31/an-nba-draft-lottery-conspiracy-it-didnt-seem-that-way/?sct=nba_t11_a1)

After reading that I am now not so sure it's rigged. I'm sure there is a way it could be done, but it seems like it's legit. Crazy...haha.

Then why isn't it shown to the public?Because theres less eyes in the room to see if they make the slightest mistake,probably.

[knicks_please]

its honestly a little crazy HOW many people think its rigged...i hope for their sake people dont actually think this way.
but in essence how it works is each team gets a certain combination of 4 digits...the #1 seeded team gets 250 out of the 1000 that they divy up between the lottery teams. that is the MOST out of anyone but still only 1/4 of the combinations, so it is technically UNLIKELY that they will get that pick. the second team has 199...here is the whole breakdown -
250 combinations, 25.0% chance of receiving the #1 pick
199 combinations, 19.9% chance
156 combinations, 15.6% chance
119 combinations, 11.9% chance
88 combinations, 8.8% chance
63 combinations, 6.3% chance
43 combinations, 4.3% chance
28 combinations, 2.8% chance
17 combinations, 1.7% chance
11 combinations, 1.1% chance
8 combinations, 0.8% chance
7 combinations, 0.7% chance
6 combinations, 0.6% chance
5 combinations, 0.5% chance

so really when you look at it , the 1-3 seeds aren't that far apart in the chance they have of getting it....either way you just have to get lucky, which is why so many low seeds have won it...you could have 900 of the combinations all you need is the wrong one to come up and you wont win it... come on people you really don't think its a giant conspiracy do ya?

[MSD]

Was so happy when I heard that the Hornets got the first pick. Thought for sure the Hornets were headed into a long rebuilding mode, but this changes everything. Monty's finally going to have an inside defensive presence and a true scorer to work with this year. Plus they have another top 10 pick to add even more depth. Vasquez and Ayon looked amazing last year and the Hornets can finally move on from Kaman and Bellinelli. Everything looking up from here. Guess my bank account is going to be drained by the time next season comes..

[UltimateDeron]

Then why isn't it shown to the public?Because theres less eyes in the room to see if they make the slightest mistake,probably.

Why should it be? Do they show the American Idol employees counting all of the votes on TV? Do they show the coin flips at the end of each NBA season that help figure out ties based on records? Some things are better off not being shown. Plus, with it not being shown they can drag it out for 30 mins to an hour on TV. If all they did was show the drawing then it would be 5-10 mins max.

[SelfDestruct808]

Why should it be? Do they show the American Idol employees counting all of the votes on TV? Do they show the coin flips at the end of each NBA season that help figure out ties based on records? Some things are better off not being shown. Plus, with it not being shown they can drag it out for 30 mins to an hour on TV. If all they did was show the drawing then it would be 5-10 mins max.

Lol American idol votes are in the millions, I'm pretty sure that would be too long. And when was the last time they did coin flips? Isn't that the last thing they do. And if some things are best not shown, did you have doubts about the draft being rigged?if they shown it live, would have that at least erase some doubts for you?

[theautographkid]

Was so happy when I heard that the Hornets got the first pick. Thought for sure the Hornets were headed into a long rebuilding mode, but this changes everything. Monty's finally going to have an inside defensive presence and a true scorer to work with this year. Plus they have another top 10 pick to add even more depth. Vasquez and Ayon looked amazing last year and the Hornets can finally move on from Kaman and Bellinelli. Everything looking up from here. Guess my bank account is going to be drained by the time next season comes..

They are still in a rebuilding mode...

[theautographkid]

I wanted to know the exact details as well so I researched it and this is what I found:

The Point Forward Posts An NBA draft lottery conspiracy? It didn’t seem that way (http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/05/31/an-nba-draft-lottery-conspiracy-it-didnt-seem-that-way/?sct=nba_t11_a1)

After reading that I am now not so sure it's rigged. I'm sure there is a way it could be done, but it seems like it's legit. Crazy...haha.

Just read that article. I still think, its somewhat rigged.

[knicks_please]

how could it POSSIBLY be rigged lol...unless that article is completely false...

[MSD]

They are still in a rebuilding mode...

I never said they weren't rebuilding, I said they're not headed towards a lengthy rebuilding period with multiple losing seasons

Right now, they stand a good shot at landing a decent playoff spot. Jack, Gordon, Ariza, Davis, and Okafor with very good bench depth and great prospects, if everything pans out they're only a couple of years away from being a true contender..

[theautographkid]

how could it POSSIBLY be rigged lol...unless that article is completely false...

My opinion, that's all.

[knicks_please]

My opinion, that's all.

is it based on anything? not starting anything just wondering why even after all the accounts of people who were THERE say its not, that people would still think it is? id just like one actual opinion on WHY it was rigged, not just people saying because the league owned the team with the 2nd worst record they must have rigged it...i mean that article lays it out perfectly..

[Jin]

I wanted to know the exact details as well so I researched it and this is what I found:

The Point Forward Posts An NBA draft lottery conspiracy? It didn’t seem that way (http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/05/31/an-nba-draft-lottery-conspiracy-it-didnt-seem-that-way/?sct=nba_t11_a1)

After reading that I am now not so sure it's rigged. I'm sure there is a way it could be done, but it seems like it's legit. Crazy...haha.


hm.. thanks for the article; that article alone literally completely changed my view completely.. no longer think the lottery is rigged

[UltimateDeron]

Lol American idol votes are in the millions, I'm pretty sure that would be too long. And when was the last time they did coin flips? Isn't that the last thing they do. And if some things are best not shown, did you have doubts about the draft being rigged?if they shown it live, would have that at least erase some doubts for you?

This year, twice that I know of... Bulls-Spurs and Hornets-Cavs.

[UltimateDeron]

I never said they weren't rebuilding, I said they're not headed towards a lengthy rebuilding period with multiple losing seasons

Right now, they stand a good shot at landing a decent playoff spot. Jack, Gordon, Ariza, Davis, and Okafor with very good bench depth and great prospects, if everything pans out they're only a couple of years away from being a true contender..

I agree. That 10th pick could land them a nice PG that could eventually turn into their starting PG, like a Lillard or Marshall. Or it could land them a big man to play next to Davis, like a Henson, Zeller, Sullinger, or Leonard. Or you could get a guy like Austin Rivers with the pick. How awesome would it be to bring a scoring threat like Rivers off the bench. Give him a Harden/Ginobili type role to work himself into. I think things are really looking great for the Hornets. Monty Williams is one of the best young coaches in the league and gets his guys to play tough, hard-nosed defense. I predict they'll be a playoff team next season as crazy as it sounds.

[jlzinck]

Don't let you fancy facts get in the way of the tin foil hat wearers.

its honestly a little crazy HOW many people think its rigged...i hope for their sake people dont actually think this way.
but in essence how it works is each team gets a certain combination of 4 digits...the #1 seeded team gets 250 out of the 1000 that they divy up between the lottery teams. that is the MOST out of anyone but still only 1/4 of the combinations, so it is technically UNLIKELY that they will get that pick. the second team has 199...here is the whole breakdown -
250 combinations, 25.0% chance of receiving the #1 pick
199 combinations, 19.9% chance
156 combinations, 15.6% chance
119 combinations, 11.9% chance
88 combinations, 8.8% chance
63 combinations, 6.3% chance
43 combinations, 4.3% chance
28 combinations, 2.8% chance
17 combinations, 1.7% chance
11 combinations, 1.1% chance
8 combinations, 0.8% chance
7 combinations, 0.7% chance
6 combinations, 0.6% chance
5 combinations, 0.5% chance

so really when you look at it , the 1-3 seeds aren't that far apart in the chance they have of getting it....either way you just have to get lucky, which is why so many low seeds have won it...you could have 900 of the combinations all you need is the wrong one to come up and you wont win it... come on people you really don't think its a giant conspiracy do ya?

[knicks_please]

Don't let you fancy facts get in the way of the tin foil hat wearers.

lol duly noted

[murrke03]

anyone see the picture of a davis in the charlotte hat from a couple weeks before draft lottery? haha

[UltimateDeron]

anyone see the picture of a davis in the charlotte hat from a couple weeks before draft lottery? haha

I've seen Anythony Davis wear many snapback hats before. Heck, I wear a Lakers snapback every now and then but I'm not a Lakers fan....at all.

I have around 50 snapbacks and I'm sure he does too.

For the record, the one team's snapback hat I would never wear is the Heat :D

[murrke03]

I've seen Anythony Davis wear many snapback hats before. Heck, I wear a Lakers snapback every now and then but I'm not a Lakers fan....at all.

I have around 50 snapbacks and I'm sure he does too.

For the record, the one team's snapback hat I would never wear is the Heat :D

haha i know i think its funny though. conspiracy theorists go crazy over that stuff.

[theautographkid]

is it based on anything? not starting anything just wondering why even after all the accounts of people who were THERE say its not, that people would still think it is? id just like one actual opinion on WHY it was rigged, not just people saying because the league owned the team with the 2nd worst record they must have rigged it...i mean that article lays it out perfectly..

I think, that it is "rigged" because of the new owner ship, Chris Paul leaving NO, for LAC, when it should have been LAL, but Stern stopped that trade, and because the ping pong balls, are keep away from everyone. If they made it available to the public, then I would not believe it is rigged. Again, this is just my opinion.

[knicks_please]

I think, that it is "rigged" because of the new owner ship, Chris Paul leaving NO, for LAC, when it should have been LAL, but Stern stopped that trade, and because the ping pong balls, are keep away from everyone. If they made it available to the public, then I would not believe it is rigged. Again, this is just my opinion.

i respect that opinion and while it does look fishy, they do have a rep of each team in the room...by that logic, the hornets *second most likely team to win the pick* couldn't have won it without it being rigged? also in that article the ping pong balls were said to be given to the hornets owner afterwards...would they just give away the rigged ping pong balls?